Your First Time At An Abortion Center

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.390 Lord. I am welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Have you 3 00:00:10.470 --> 00:00:13.949 been thinking and praying about going out to an abortion center and reaching out? 4 00:00:14.269 --> 00:00:17.309 Maybe you have some doubts and fears of what that might look like. In 5 00:00:17.429 --> 00:00:23.739 this episode we talked about that. So stay with us. Lord. I 6 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:39.409 felt show passis touch your heart. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 7 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:44.369 Guys, you appreciate you listening. Appreciate you guys commenting in the reviews 8 00:00:44.770 --> 00:00:49.090 on itunes and giving us five stars if you think we deserve five stars. 9 00:00:49.130 --> 00:00:54.000 If not, then don't leave anything. All right, let's getting we've had 10 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.200 a barrage recently if some of the pro abortion people leaving one star reviews. 11 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.159 One told me that she could leave zero stars if that were possible, but 12 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.200 she couldn't. And so if you guys like this podcast, please help us 13 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:07.829 out and get those reviews up and let us know. Reach out to me 14 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.030 via email if there's subjects we can cover. That would encourage you to leave 15 00:01:11.030 --> 00:01:15.670 a better review for us. It's not about reviews, though. We want 16 00:01:15.709 --> 00:01:19.980 to glorify God. We want to equip you guys to be effective in sidewalk 17 00:01:21.099 --> 00:01:26.260 outreach ministry and being a voice for the voiceless and, ultimately, in proclaiming 18 00:01:26.299 --> 00:01:29.500 the Gospel. Yeah, so we want to do right and in this podcast 19 00:01:29.579 --> 00:01:32.260 I think it's going to be helpful for some folks who've been listening to our 20 00:01:32.299 --> 00:01:36.209 podcast for a while, who've been maybe even looking on facebook some social media 21 00:01:36.290 --> 00:01:38.769 stuff and gotten stirred up over the issue of abortion and you really feel like 22 00:01:38.849 --> 00:01:42.329 you need to do something about it where it takes place right, which is 23 00:01:42.370 --> 00:01:47.129 at abortion set. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe you're feeling God is maybe 24 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.799 even calling you that. You really are feeling like, I need to be 25 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.719 out there and but I'm terrified, I don't I don't know what I'm going 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.599 to face. And and so that's that's kind of the genesis of them this 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.400 podcast, as we wanted to give you a heads up, I'm what you're 28 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.310 going to face too. Sometimes, when we know things, in fact, 29 00:02:04.310 --> 00:02:07.989 I think always said it removed some of that fear factor. Absolutely. Yeah, 30 00:02:07.989 --> 00:02:10.870 we come in different scenarios and different stuff that we're involved in and we 31 00:02:12.069 --> 00:02:15.349 when we don't know what to expect. Right, there's all these fears and 32 00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:17.580 some of them are fears that are founded in reality and some are just simply 33 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:22.099 not founded in reality. And so we're going to just kind of lay out 34 00:02:22.139 --> 00:02:24.620 for you guys, at least from our perspective, from our experiences, what 35 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:30.009 is the reality of your first time at an abortion center. And so we're 36 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:34.930 calling this podcast what to expect your first day as a sidewalk and missionary, 37 00:02:35.050 --> 00:02:38.650 what to expect your first days I walk counseling or inside, walk out reach 38 00:02:38.849 --> 00:02:43.409 right, and so we're going to jump into some of what to expect and 39 00:02:43.490 --> 00:02:46.680 we're going to start with some of very obvious point here, and that point 40 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.240 is kind of how we started this podcast. is you've perceived the calling. 41 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.080 Yeah, you've. You've read some scripture, you've heard a message, you've 42 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.870 seen some stuff on line and you've gotten stirred up over it, like I 43 00:02:59.949 --> 00:03:01.750 knew abortion took place, but I didn't know it was this bad of a 44 00:03:01.789 --> 00:03:06.150 problem and I should do something about it. And so you've perceived that calling. 45 00:03:06.590 --> 00:03:09.469 Maybe you read one of our favorite scriptures, proverbs thirty one, verses 46 00:03:09.509 --> 00:03:13.939 eight nine. Open your mouth for the speechless and the cause of all who 47 00:03:13.979 --> 00:03:16.860 are appointed to die. Open your mouth judge righteously, plead the cause of 48 00:03:16.860 --> 00:03:20.780 the poor and needy. Maybe you read that scripture for the first time or 49 00:03:20.979 --> 00:03:23.539 really stuck out to you for the first time, and you said I need 50 00:03:23.659 --> 00:03:27.020 to do that for these unborn children. Right. Yeah, I know. 51 00:03:27.099 --> 00:03:29.969 That's what happened to me. It wasn't just that scripture, there were many 52 00:03:30.009 --> 00:03:34.289 scriptures, but I did definitely feel, okay, I need to go check 53 00:03:34.409 --> 00:03:39.370 this out, and and I that that sense of being called and told by 54 00:03:39.449 --> 00:03:46.680 God really go, you need to go. That was accompanied with intense reluctance, 55 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.800 you fear. Yeah, yeah, absolutely well, one of the first 56 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.680 things, of course, is again filling that calling right, feeling that you 57 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.229 need to go and do something about it. And one of the realities is, 58 00:03:55.509 --> 00:03:59.710 I know this happened for me before I'd been out to an abortion center. 59 00:03:59.710 --> 00:04:02.509 It's like I knew abortions took place, I knew where. I didn't 60 00:04:02.509 --> 00:04:05.509 know where the clinics were, but I knew there were clinics there, abortion 61 00:04:05.629 --> 00:04:10.419 clinics, abortion centers that did these abortions. I just didn't think that they 62 00:04:10.419 --> 00:04:13.860 were in my city. Right, I think the there's somewhere else far, 63 00:04:14.020 --> 00:04:15.699 far away from me. Yes, I know it takes place, I know 64 00:04:15.779 --> 00:04:18.699 what happens, I know it happens at some places, but it didn't happen 65 00:04:18.779 --> 00:04:21.779 near me. And so for a lot of people they're stirred up there, 66 00:04:21.819 --> 00:04:25.490 grieved over what abortion do us, two little babies in the womb, but 67 00:04:25.569 --> 00:04:28.649 they don't lize there's an abortion center right down the road from their house, 68 00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:31.170 for some of them, right down the road from where they worship at their 69 00:04:31.569 --> 00:04:35.329 their church. Right. I was shocked and there's for in our city. 70 00:04:35.370 --> 00:04:40.120 Absolutely don't even know about one. Yes, so, yeah, and what 71 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:45.120 immediately happened with me, and I think this is true of almost everybody I've 72 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.759 ever talked to, so I think it's very important that our listeners be aware 73 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:54.430 of this, is that there was a voice doing everything in its power to 74 00:04:54.589 --> 00:04:59.629 keep us away, yeah, from that abortion center. So literally spiritual attack, 75 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:03.269 like spiritual blindness, just in unreality that there's these abortion centers in our 76 00:05:03.350 --> 00:05:06.110 city. So I'd say you actually don't have it here on this paper. 77 00:05:06.139 --> 00:05:10.339 Vicky, of course, wrote a wonderful article which we will pose. Yeah, 78 00:05:10.379 --> 00:05:12.939 we're going to post this and maybe we'll add this in if we can 79 00:05:12.939 --> 00:05:15.620 figure out how to add it in. But you just one of the practical 80 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:18.100 things, because we're going to get into the spiritual, of course, right. 81 00:05:18.459 --> 00:05:21.329 But one of the practical things is finding where the abortion center is. 82 00:05:21.769 --> 00:05:26.170 Good, you're going good point, and so it's very easy to do. 83 00:05:26.370 --> 00:05:30.569 Actually, just go on Google. Yeah, just go on Google and search 84 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:33.370 abortion clinic near me and it'll be very easy to find. Typically, it 85 00:05:33.449 --> 00:05:38.199 could be a plan parenthood, it could be because there are some plan parenthoods 86 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.240 that don't do abortions. It could be there's a plan parenthood near you and 87 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:46.079 they don't do abortions and you can find that out. Sometimes they refer abortions 88 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.480 and it's still appropriate to go out there and reach out. But if you 89 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.750 can find where in your city abortions take place, that would kind of be 90 00:05:53.870 --> 00:05:57.990 the first step in going out there. Right. Yeah, exactly. Now 91 00:05:58.029 --> 00:06:00.629 we do on the sidewalks for life website have a map. If you go 92 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:06.300 into the sidewalks for life website and you find r there's a place where get 93 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:12.339 connected to local counselors and it's a map. It's a google map that we 94 00:06:12.420 --> 00:06:15.980 compiled some years ago and it's basically identifying where there are other people that are 95 00:06:16.019 --> 00:06:19.769 reaching out of abortion centers. So they're not people that even that we know 96 00:06:20.009 --> 00:06:25.410 they're not people that we may, we may not even agree with them theologically 97 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:28.569 or whatever, but there are people that for in some way, somehow, 98 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:30.569 let us know they're reaching out of an abortion center. So you can go 99 00:06:30.810 --> 00:06:35.720 on that map actually and you can find where those people are and you can 100 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:41.519 email them, you can find out where they're at again and and of course 101 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.519 they'll tell you where the abortion center is. But even so, Google is 102 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.829 a very, very easy way, yeah, to find out where these abortion 103 00:06:48.949 --> 00:06:51.269 centers are so you can know where you're headed. Do well, and and 104 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:55.910 it's such a good idea actually, if, if this also wasn't in the 105 00:06:55.949 --> 00:06:59.430 article, but if you can find an abortion center, maybe not too far 106 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:01.500 from you, maybe it's not the one exactly in your community, but not 107 00:07:01.699 --> 00:07:06.500 too far, where you can go and watch what happens and what if there 108 00:07:06.579 --> 00:07:11.740 is a Christian presence out there already. That is so valuable. Observing other 109 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:16.129 people exactly really, really key, and we've encouraging time pass and podcast for 110 00:07:16.209 --> 00:07:19.050 people to come to Charlotte here. You want to come and shadow our teams. 111 00:07:19.209 --> 00:07:21.529 Yeah, you can certainly do that. Yeah. Now, so on 112 00:07:21.649 --> 00:07:25.689 the sidewalks for life website, just to mention this for you guys, if 113 00:07:25.730 --> 00:07:28.009 you go in, you'll see at the top of the page you're seeing the 114 00:07:28.089 --> 00:07:31.360 menu. It's a little menu item join the community, and if you strew 115 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.360 scroll down, what you'll see right away is the facebook, the sidewalks for 116 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.079 lies facebook page where we share the articles in the podcast and that sort of 117 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.000 thing. And then there's a section that says joint experience counselors in your area 118 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.430 and there's a national sidewalk counselor directory, and that's where we've gone through. 119 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:49.670 Again, people have told us they're reaching out. It's not people that we 120 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:54.389 necessarily know. Some of the people we do know, but they've let us 121 00:07:54.389 --> 00:07:56.709 know in some way, shape or form that they reach out on an abortion 122 00:07:56.750 --> 00:07:58.579 center. And so you can go to that map, you can click on 123 00:07:58.620 --> 00:08:01.139 the little dots there and it'll bring up who the people are in their email 124 00:08:01.139 --> 00:08:05.939 address. And we're actually working on another map that identifies where the abortion centers 125 00:08:05.980 --> 00:08:09.740 are exactly nationwide and we haven't put that out yet. So I won't focus 126 00:08:09.779 --> 00:08:15.209 on that because won't get it. Don't want to get sidetracked, but anyway, 127 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:18.529 so practically you need to find out where these places are. But when 128 00:08:18.569 --> 00:08:22.129 you do, what are some of the things that you need to be working 129 00:08:22.250 --> 00:08:24.250 through. What are some of the thoughts you need to be having, some 130 00:08:24.290 --> 00:08:26.879 of the concerns that maybe valid or invalid, you need to consider? Yeah, 131 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.480 well, just get ready because guaranteed, the night before you are supposed 132 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.080 to show up at the abortion center, and I think we've said this before, 133 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.960 your kid will go through a major rebellion, the dog will vomit on 134 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:45.309 the rug, you'll fight with your husband and you'll you'll half burned down the 135 00:08:45.429 --> 00:08:48.950 kitchen, you know, forgetting it back to kids on behothing. Well, 136 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:54.230 many things. It will happen to scare you, because there is a defense. 137 00:08:54.429 --> 00:08:56.340 Yeah, right, absolutely, talk about what that Defense Yeah, well, 138 00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:00.820 in EF FESIAN chapter six. Yeah, they're spells out for us to 139 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:05.460 dynamic of spiritual warfare and the whole armor of God that God has equipped us 140 00:09:05.460 --> 00:09:09.019 with. Right, understand, this is a spiritual battle. It is you're 141 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:11.049 in a spiritual battle, and not sell folks. When you're when you're coming 142 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:16.129 against abortion, you are touching the devil's pride and joy. From the very 143 00:09:16.169 --> 00:09:20.769 beginning, the devil has sought to destroy the image of God. That's what 144 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:24.879 abortion does. That's what happens at abortion clinic right now. Practically speaking, 145 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.559 most abortion centers. I won't say all, but in my experience, and 146 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.159 I've had, you know, a lot of experience reaching out an abortion centers, 147 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.440 talking to people that reach out an abortion centers. A day where a 148 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.029 lot of abortions are performed at abortion centers is Saturday. Saturday and it's the 149 00:09:39.190 --> 00:09:43.870 easiest day for most people to go out to an abortion center and pray and 150 00:09:43.029 --> 00:09:46.590 and be involved in some way. And so quite likely that's what will happen 151 00:09:46.669 --> 00:09:50.350 with you. You'll decide, you know, maybe a week before or whatever, 152 00:09:50.470 --> 00:09:52.379 and we kind of have a flow of things. If you go on 153 00:09:52.419 --> 00:09:56.100 the sidewalks for life site, it talks about where to start, talks about 154 00:09:56.220 --> 00:09:58.620 introduction. That we kind of got step by step there, and you guyss 155 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:03.740 can check that out on the sidewalks for life website. But Friday night, 156 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:07.210 Vick, he's talking about when you're preparing to go on that Saturday morning, 157 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:13.370 something's dogs going to get hit by a car. We're just saying we when 158 00:10:13.409 --> 00:10:16.970 we experience this on a regular basis with new volunteers, we tell our new 159 00:10:18.009 --> 00:10:20.809 volunteers listen, just be warned. We're not trying to make you afraid, 160 00:10:20.169 --> 00:10:24.720 we just know from experience, and it is proven to be true over the 161 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.399 years, that if you set your heart to come out and volunteer with us, 162 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.080 there's going to be a spiritual battle, there's going to be something that 163 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.710 tries to hinder you and keep you from the sidewalk. If you can, 164 00:10:35.870 --> 00:10:37.870 by God's grace, push past it and come out right and, just like 165 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.590 it says in James Chapter for resist the devil and ill flee from you. 166 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:46.029 Yeah, that's an important dynamic. Don't let the enemy win. That doesn't 167 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:50.059 mean if something major happens and you're not able to make it that Saturday or 168 00:10:50.139 --> 00:10:52.659 that day, that you just need to beat yourself up or whatever. You've 169 00:10:52.820 --> 00:10:56.740 given up in the devil is one. No, don't believe that lie. 170 00:10:56.940 --> 00:10:58.580 Yeah, just shoot for the next Saturday if that's how it has to be. 171 00:10:58.740 --> 00:11:03.100 But just understand this is a dynamic that you'll likely deal with. Yeah, 172 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:05.730 and I sure did my first time coming out here. Got Really sick 173 00:11:05.970 --> 00:11:11.889 and I recovered, but I was right before the time that I was supposed 174 00:11:11.889 --> 00:11:13.450 to come out, but I was still going to use that sickness for an 175 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:18.210 excuse and by God's grace, I didn't. God just wouldn't let me off 176 00:11:18.250 --> 00:11:24.080 the hook, and that is the antidote to these strong attacks is just show 177 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.679 Satan he cannot win. Yeah, you will not let him when you will, 178 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:33.230 you will be out there if at all possible. So then, so 179 00:11:33.990 --> 00:11:39.590 you get there. Yeah, you show up. And I think I've described 180 00:11:39.629 --> 00:11:43.830 it before. For me, when I was driving down the road and turning 181 00:11:45.470 --> 00:11:50.539 onto the road that the abortion center was on, it was like hitting a 182 00:11:50.659 --> 00:11:52.419 wall of evil. Yeah, it was. It was so tangible, it 183 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:58.259 was so palpable that that evil spirit that was over that entire street in the 184 00:11:58.299 --> 00:12:03.850 closer I got, the more that that that feeling of evil. So for 185 00:12:05.090 --> 00:12:11.009 me I was just filled with terror. I was literally shaking and it was 186 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:16.159 everything I had in me to keep driving down that street. And I say 187 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.600 this again not to terrify all of you, but to say this is a 188 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.879 very common experience. I didn't if you experience that, Daniel. Yeah, 189 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.200 I mean I still experience that now. Yeah, coming down the TROUBE drive, 190 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.629 and I've been coming down the troube drive fifteen years, fifteen years, 191 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:37.669 and yet still I experience, sometimes, not always, but that I don't 192 00:12:37.669 --> 00:12:41.909 know, that just that spiritual sense. There is a battle and it's waging 193 00:12:43.190 --> 00:12:48.820 in the heavenly realm right, and I've had folks, new folks and people 194 00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:52.740 that have been coming for a while that will liken it unto going into a 195 00:12:52.860 --> 00:12:58.289 Third World country where you're dealing with major spiritual warfare. Was Demon activity at 196 00:12:58.330 --> 00:13:03.490 its height at those some of those places, and they say it feels like 197 00:13:03.690 --> 00:13:05.250 that's what it feels like. You're on the TRUBE drive. It's like stepping 198 00:13:05.330 --> 00:13:11.090 off the plane in a third world country where there's major spiritual warfare because there's 199 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:13.639 demon activity and there are people that are worshiping demons. And that's funny. 200 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.639 In America we still have the demons here, by the way. They just 201 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.320 know how to themselves. Yeah, and Third World countries where everyone kind of 202 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.639 knows these spiritual realities. It's out there and it's blatant, it's in the 203 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.789 open. Well, that's how it is here on the troupe driving in front 204 00:13:26.789 --> 00:13:31.629 of your board abortion center. Quite possibly, that spiritual warfare is real. 205 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.590 The Devil can't mask it there because it's literally life and death. Light in 206 00:13:35.629 --> 00:13:39.190 darkness. Yeah, and I we've had so many people coming to visit for 207 00:13:39.269 --> 00:13:43.460 the first time, our new volunteers, that have said they just could not 208 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:52.139 imagine the the impact, that evil foreboding sense that that is there, and 209 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:58.370 what comes out of the mouths of the opposition. It's just mind bogglingly, 210 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.090 yeah, but it is. It is evil personify. Yeah, absolutely, 211 00:14:03.289 --> 00:14:07.129 you know, and we do with like we talked about the spiritual attacks, 212 00:14:07.809 --> 00:14:11.080 but then the emotional attacks, the feelings that come with that, the the 213 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.240 oppression that it can be felt there, and that's just driving to the place, 214 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.320 yeah, much less standard in front of the place, right, and 215 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.710 watching the women go in, yeah, and realizing what what they're going in 216 00:14:24.870 --> 00:14:28.789 for. Yeah, when my first time, when they began lining up, 217 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:35.590 and there was probably at least fifteen to twenty women that began lining up and 218 00:14:35.830 --> 00:14:39.779 they had not yet opened the doors, the women had gotten out of their 219 00:14:39.899 --> 00:14:45.700 cars and they were won by one coming and lining up, and that, 220 00:14:46.059 --> 00:14:48.539 to me, brought the reality of what I was facing, yeah, to 221 00:14:50.139 --> 00:14:56.690 to the forefront and just the I became overwhelmed and felt like crying from that 222 00:14:56.809 --> 00:15:01.610 moment on. Yeah, because every one of those women had a baby inside 223 00:15:01.610 --> 00:15:05.450 of her, right, and every one of those women was was planning to 224 00:15:05.490 --> 00:15:09.279 kill that baby. That's why they were there, and it was just so 225 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.120 sorrowful. Yeah, to me to see that. So I had a very 226 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:20.720 hard time keeping that emotion in check. In fact, most of the people 227 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.110 that when they first comments, their first time, there will be a period 228 00:15:24.149 --> 00:15:28.830 where they are literally crying. Yeah, absolutely, so overwhelming. Yeah, 229 00:15:28.909 --> 00:15:33.230 and just to give you guys kind of an idea of how we do things, 230 00:15:33.269 --> 00:15:37.100 because we train him in a particular way for the reasons that we're talking 231 00:15:37.100 --> 00:15:41.059 about the emotions and the stuff that people need to they need to have time 232 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.419 to process. So we do and we have it on our cities for life 233 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:46.580 website, kind of the flow of things, but we have people for their 234 00:15:46.659 --> 00:15:50.570 first touch with US rather than doing like some kind of classroom training or some 235 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:54.009 kind of home on training. If you want to volunteer with cities for life, 236 00:15:54.529 --> 00:15:58.370 we want you to come out in shadow a seasoned team, because we 237 00:15:58.450 --> 00:16:00.970 want you to be able to come out with people who've been out for a 238 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:04.600 while and people who know the INS and outs of it and sort of unless 239 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.519 they comfortable, but at least a less intimidating scenario and just taking the emotions 240 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.159 of it, to feel the spiritual warfare. And so the first time you 241 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.080 come out and volunteer with us, you're just going to pray in the observed 242 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.440 you're just going to watch, you just going to take it all in, 243 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.149 you're going to ask questions and we're going to talk you through some of the 244 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:23.870 basics of what you're seeing and why we're doing this, while we're doing that, 245 00:16:23.950 --> 00:16:26.870 while we're saying this, while we're saying that. But we want people 246 00:16:26.950 --> 00:16:30.990 just to be exposed, to take it in, to pray and observe. 247 00:16:30.070 --> 00:16:33.659 And maybe there's not a cities for life. There's not maybe even a sidewalk 248 00:16:33.700 --> 00:16:37.700 presents at the abortion center in your city. But still, I think probably 249 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:42.419 the first time it's best for you used to be there, pray, observe, 250 00:16:44.059 --> 00:16:47.570 process what you're seeing. Maybe you're a person that can just step right 251 00:16:47.649 --> 00:16:51.129 out and start speaking to the moms and reach it out. Probably most people 252 00:16:51.129 --> 00:16:53.649 aren't the probably most people just need to be there for a little bit to 253 00:16:53.809 --> 00:16:57.970 take it all in and to pray through it, and that maybe the best 254 00:16:59.169 --> 00:17:02.240 first step. Go out to the abortion center and just commit. I'm going 255 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.039 to go out there and pray. Yeah, because that's doable for most people. 256 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.680 I can just stand there and pray and and just to soak in. 257 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:14.440 Yeah, just what's happening there and that that horror is real, and it's 258 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.390 real because it's horrific to God, and if we love God, then of 259 00:17:18.470 --> 00:17:22.309 course we're going to be horrified by that. And in one of my kind 260 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:26.390 of guiding proverbs is proverb six, sixteen through eighteen, where it says there's 261 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:30.339 six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination, and he 262 00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:36.299 gives a list. But one of those are hands that shed innocent blood and 263 00:17:36.539 --> 00:17:40.059 feet that make haste to run to evil. Yeah, and I think that's 264 00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:44.609 such a an apt description. Yeah, absolutely of what's happening there at the 265 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:48.609 abortion center. So and those women as they're lining up, you're going to 266 00:17:48.730 --> 00:17:53.410 see so many different emotions in even in that. Yeah, Cru I know, 267 00:17:55.410 --> 00:17:56.690 like I said, we want people to be exposed to it, because 268 00:17:56.690 --> 00:18:00.319 there are some people that want to come in volunteer with us, and I 269 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.920 don't mean this, you know, in any kind of negative way for anybody, 270 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.240 but there are people that come out, I think, with wrong motives 271 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.319 sometimes, yeah, where they think, you know what, these poor innocent 272 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.599 women that are victims, I want to come and just be their savior. 273 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.670 Right, and you will learn very quickly and come out just one or two 274 00:18:15.710 --> 00:18:19.829 times and observe and you'll see these women aren't always just poor, innocent victims, 275 00:18:19.869 --> 00:18:22.470 right, and you think you're going to come and rescue them and save 276 00:18:22.549 --> 00:18:26.150 the day, because they're just waiting on somebody as great as you to come 277 00:18:26.190 --> 00:18:29.779 along, and the reality is they hate your guts. Yeah, and all 278 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:32.940 you're doing is sitting out there. You're just standing there praying, right, 279 00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.420 and and so it kind of dispels some of the ideas, the false ideas 280 00:18:37.500 --> 00:18:41.259 that people have. Doesn't mean that some of the women that come aren't victims 281 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:45.329 of circumstances. Some are, but many are just bound up in the selfishness 282 00:18:47.329 --> 00:18:49.890 that they to the point where they are going to take the life of their 283 00:18:49.930 --> 00:18:56.200 own child. Yeah, so helping you to understand correctly what you're facing and 284 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.680 just being there and taking it in is is very helpful long term. Right, 285 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.680 right, because there's going to be women that are going to be smiling, 286 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.880 laughing and joking like they're on the way into buy some new shoes. 287 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.829 Literally, is what it feels like. Then there's some that will be crying 288 00:19:10.950 --> 00:19:15.869 or that will be uttle to gets a boyfriend may be clearly distraught. There's 289 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:19.390 some that are very angry and you'll see, you'll see it all, and 290 00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:25.339 I think that's so important to to see, for exactly the reason that that 291 00:19:26.059 --> 00:19:30.299 you brought up, that some of these women do almost look like they're seeking 292 00:19:30.339 --> 00:19:33.339 an answer, that they want help. But I would say the vast majority 293 00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:37.299 of them don't look that way. The vast majority of them look like they 294 00:19:37.569 --> 00:19:41.089 this is something they are determined to do. Yeah, even if it's causing 295 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:45.450 some some grief. Yeah, absolutely. I mean I know you will encounter 296 00:19:45.569 --> 00:19:48.890 situations and it's it's part of along the lines of this horror of abortion. 297 00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:52.640 Yeah, or you'll see women go in, smile on their faith, their 298 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.759 heads up, sometimes their middle fingers up because you're they're praying, you're out, 299 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.440 they're reaching out right and then you'll see the same woman co come out 300 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:00.799 with tears in her eyes, you can't even look you in the eyes. 301 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:07.950 Yeah, sometimes you'll see the horror abortion spelled out in a dad and a 302 00:20:07.029 --> 00:20:11.470 mom bringing their young daughter, fifteen, sixteen year old, into the abortion 303 00:20:11.589 --> 00:20:15.950 center to kill their grandchild, and it's like this is what we've become as 304 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:21.150 a society into. The horror of abortion is is more than I don't say 305 00:20:21.269 --> 00:20:23.740 this to minimize. But it's more than than killing a child. It's the 306 00:20:23.900 --> 00:20:30.059 devastation of the family as well. Right, and and the rationalize and lie 307 00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:33.299 quite frequently why it will. Will hear all the time, while I'm not 308 00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:37.009 here for an abortion at the facility where we're at, that's all they do. 309 00:20:37.289 --> 00:20:40.609 So right now, that that's a yeah, that's something. I'm glad 310 00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:44.170 you mentioned. That something I wanted to mention that the abortion center you're at 311 00:20:44.410 --> 00:20:48.329 or that is near your house or wherever God calls you right, may not 312 00:20:48.690 --> 00:20:52.480 just do abortions. I mean, unfortunately here on the trope drive the abortion 313 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.680 center here, that's all they do. Right, twenty five to thirty babies 314 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.480 die every day, six days a week here, and that's all they do 315 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.240 is abortions. Yeah, and so quite possibly. And so if if you 316 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.349 stand here and you watch the women go in, you know they're going into 317 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:10.430 have an abortion, but quite possibly in your city maybe they're walking in and 318 00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:14.509 they're having other things done. But you can very quickly, of God will 319 00:21:14.549 --> 00:21:17.789 give you discernment, but even just natural discernment, you can very quickly tell 320 00:21:17.829 --> 00:21:19.579 who are the ones that are coming for abortions and who are the ones that 321 00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:23.339 are coming for other things. Right, and you'll see the numbers of people. 322 00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:26.579 I mean, I remember the first time, and I've shared this before 323 00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:30.500 on the podcast, the first time I ever went to an abortion center, 324 00:21:30.579 --> 00:21:33.130 which is really, really where I felt the call, in the need, 325 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:37.569 I saw the need to do something about this issue. Was that the abortion 326 00:21:37.650 --> 00:21:41.369 center in South Charlotte here on he Bron Street, right, and they do 327 00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:45.250 things other than abortions. Yeah, but I remember it was on a Saturday 328 00:21:45.289 --> 00:21:48.519 and typically, if abortion centers do things other than abortions, they're going to 329 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.720 prioritize Saturdays. This is, again from experience as their abortion days, because 330 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.839 that's when a lot of these women are off of work and they'll have Saturday 331 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.200 and Sunday to recover and go back to work and back in the quote normal 332 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.230 scheme of things. Yeah, and so I remember standing there and I remember 333 00:22:03.349 --> 00:22:07.269 and I could see very clearly who it was here for an abortion and who 334 00:22:07.309 --> 00:22:10.990 was here for other things. I remember watching those women walk in and I 335 00:22:11.109 --> 00:22:14.470 just knew they were going in they had that baby in their womb, safe 336 00:22:15.029 --> 00:22:18.099 and sound. And yet I was watch those same women leave, knowing that 337 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.980 they left a dead baby inside. Yeah, and that reality, that horror 338 00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:26.539 and just the picture in my mind because I know what a baby looks like 339 00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:29.140 at nine weeks. I've seen ultra sounds. We've, many of us have 340 00:22:29.259 --> 00:22:30.369 seen ultra sounds. If you haven't, you can. It's very easy to 341 00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:34.369 find. But then even seeing, because you can, the victims of abortion 342 00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:37.369 and see what abortion actually does. We shouldn't shy away from that kind of 343 00:22:37.369 --> 00:22:42.730 stuff because it strikes us as offensive. It should offend us. Yeah, 344 00:22:42.890 --> 00:22:47.319 we need to be offended by the horror that we've allowed in this country. 345 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:51.359 We need to be offended by the horror of what's happening in our cities. 346 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.680 We do, you know, says that. Um, I was on the 347 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:00.230 mobile ultratown unit here at our facility on Saturday and we had an abortion determined 348 00:23:00.430 --> 00:23:06.190 couple on board and the young man was flipping through the pamphlet that we give 349 00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:10.430 them and he came to the picture of the abortion victim, which is, 350 00:23:10.509 --> 00:23:14.380 I think a nine week Sulive we okay, an eleven week old baby, 351 00:23:14.619 --> 00:23:18.579 and he just said, is this the baby in the womb? And I 352 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:23.380 said that's an that's a victim of abortion, that's an aborted baby, and 353 00:23:23.500 --> 00:23:27.849 he's looking at it and you could see the dawning yea in his eyes of 354 00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:32.089 what he was looking at, and I said that baby at that age is 355 00:23:32.369 --> 00:23:37.769 dismembered by the abortionist in the womb and then ripped out piece by piece, 356 00:23:37.809 --> 00:23:41.960 and I began to describe it and he just shook his head. This is 357 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.839 a man who is going to abort. Yeah, and he just shook his 358 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:51.000 head and said this is murder. Yeah. So that's what I think really 359 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:56.509 hits you. Yeah, powerfully, when you're standing there and you're seeing sometimes 360 00:23:56.630 --> 00:24:00.710 visibly pregnant women, yeah, that are going to have that baby dismembered, 361 00:24:00.789 --> 00:24:06.269 ripped out of their body, and it is. It's brutal, violent murder. 362 00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:11.619 Yeah, and it's like it's in one sense for our Christian semi sensitivities. 363 00:24:11.740 --> 00:24:15.779 Yeah, it's so horrible that we're not willing to come to terms with 364 00:24:15.859 --> 00:24:19.700 the fact that it's actually happening. It's actually happening in your city. Yeah, 365 00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:25.490 it's actually happening you fifteen minutes from where you go to church service. 366 00:24:25.609 --> 00:24:29.250 That possibly? I mean that's what really struck me is I'm standing there in 367 00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:33.369 front of that abortion center on he Bron Street and the Lord really spoke to 368 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.369 my heart very strongly. A hundred feet from where you're standing, babies are 369 00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:44.039 dying right now. Yeah, because we kind of put that off and put 370 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.440 these these horrible things, these atrocities. It take place in human culture. 371 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.549 Yeah, to things that happen in the past and so overwhelming. ME. 372 00:24:52.630 --> 00:24:56.109 Don't need to so overwhelming, we don't need to do with it because, 373 00:24:56.109 --> 00:24:59.309 after all, it's not happening right now in the time and age that I'm 374 00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:02.549 in. And the fact is, guys, it is happening. Yeah, 375 00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.380 it is happening for many of you, literally less than an hour away from 376 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:11.380 where you live, most people, some people thirty minutes, fifteen minutes away 377 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:15.579 from where you live. It's really happening and we have to process the horror 378 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:18.059 what's happening. And I think really, and I'll say this, I don't 379 00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:23.970 believe every Christian is called to go out and and be inside, walk out, 380 00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:27.289 reach out an abortion center. Now to believe that, I do believe 381 00:25:27.329 --> 00:25:30.569 that every Christian should be exposed to it. Yeah, every Christian should go 382 00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:33.930 out there at least once, I would say more than once. Now, 383 00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:37.279 I'm not saying that not every Christian is called to do something about this issue. 384 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.119 We are all called to do something about all called to speak about it 385 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.880 and to speak with others about it and, where it's possible, to stop 386 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.759 it. I want to tell you another story from Saturday which I think fits 387 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.750 in sort of here, is there was a group of prayer walkers going around 388 00:25:52.950 --> 00:25:56.910 the street that the abortion centers on and I was standing by the mobile ultrasound 389 00:25:56.910 --> 00:26:02.670 unit and a woman came up to me in tears and and hugged me. 390 00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:06.420 Yeah, and said thank you so much for what you're doing. And I 391 00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:10.740 knew that that this woman had a story and said I you've got a story, 392 00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:12.619 don't you? She said yes, I said so do I, and 393 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:18.450 she said how I wish there had been someone like you here when I had 394 00:26:18.569 --> 00:26:22.250 my abortion. So I think I want to be sure to throw that in, 395 00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:26.009 because so far we're painting a very bleak and different picture, and it 396 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:32.809 is, it is, but there there's a purpose that God has sent us. 397 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.279 They're absolutely not just to observe horror, yeah, but to in some 398 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.440 way deal with that horror. Yeah, I mean and maybe have to process 399 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.799 and we have to come to terms with the reality that this horror of abortion 400 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.309 is happening in our cities, not some other time, not some other plays, 401 00:26:49.670 --> 00:26:55.069 not just in California, just in New York. It's happening all across 402 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.670 America. Yeah, but we also have to come to terms with the fact 403 00:26:57.670 --> 00:27:03.859 that there is a solution to this problem and his name is Jesus. Yeah, 404 00:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.619 and he's in you, if you're a Christian. Jesus says, I 405 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:10.980 will be with you and I will be in you. He is. I 406 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:15.809 don't say that in some trite, some kind of just flippant way, some 407 00:27:15.049 --> 00:27:18.769 cliche. Jesus is a solution to a problem. I say that with absolute 408 00:27:18.849 --> 00:27:26.250 conviction. It's true. Jesus Christ and his Gospel is the solution to the 409 00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:30.440 problem of abortion. And you have, if you're a Christian, him in 410 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.759 you. You've got his word, you've got the Gospel, which is the 411 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:38.079 power of God to salvation for these women who have not yet experienced salvation. 412 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.599 So you can have hope. Yes, we come to grips. I listen. 413 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.309 As Christians, we need to come to terms with the reality that there 414 00:27:45.509 --> 00:27:51.069 is a hell, right, that's a hard reality. And eternity, not 415 00:27:51.269 --> 00:27:55.630 just separated from God, but an eternity under the wrath of God. Yeah, 416 00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:59.619 that is a biblical reality that we need to come to terms with that 417 00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:04.900 horror of eternal damnation in hell needs to be something we do the best we 418 00:28:04.980 --> 00:28:10.500 can to wrap our minds around and let that horror fuel our activity, to 419 00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:14.329 go into the hedges in the highways and compel people to come in, because 420 00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:18.730 Jesus offers his appeal of salvation to everyone who would come. Yeah, and 421 00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:22.569 these women, if they are there to kill their chired, that child, 422 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:26.160 they are in rebellion against God. And, while we've said this before, 423 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:32.000 abortion is not the unpardonable sin, but if you don't repent from the severity 424 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.519 of the sin and recognize the severity of that sin, your soul is in 425 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.559 danger. Yeah, absolutely, Yes, no doubt. And so the totality 426 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.990 of the picture, the horror abortion, where it leads to it, shouldn't 427 00:28:42.029 --> 00:28:48.109 stifle us. It should actually motivate us right to know that the solution is 428 00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:51.029 in us. We're not the solution, that's right. We're not so smart 429 00:28:51.069 --> 00:28:55.069 and so great and so special that we're the solution, but Jesus in us. 430 00:28:55.190 --> 00:28:56.099 He is the solution. So I want encourage you guys with that. 431 00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:00.220 Don't get stifled by some of the things that we're saying. Yeah, be 432 00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:03.940 encouraged that Jesus in you can be the solution. Yeah, which is why 433 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:08.299 we are a Gospel centered prolife podcast and we are a Gospel Centered Ministry also 434 00:29:08.380 --> 00:29:14.009 because we know that of ourselves. There's lots of people that you can argue 435 00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:18.650 without at the abortion center from a scientific or humanistic point of view and the 436 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.569 it will not change their heart at all. But if you can bring the 437 00:29:22.690 --> 00:29:26.519 truth of Jesus, of the Gospel and of the only real hope that there 438 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.119 is, that can truly change when it's going to happen. Soolutely are. 439 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.480 So up until this point we've talked about maybe just you going out for your 440 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.829 first time, you standing out, they're praying and just observing the women going 441 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.150 in. But there's some other things that could be taken place there too, 442 00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:45.069 and we want you guys to be aware of those things. So I'm encouraging 443 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.630 things, I'm not so encouraging things, and one of those things is maybe 444 00:29:48.670 --> 00:29:52.509 there is a sidewalk team there, maybe there are Christians, they're reaching out. 445 00:29:52.589 --> 00:29:56.740 Yeah, however imperfect they might be doing it, however not like you 446 00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:59.299 think it ought to be done, because be aware that there are some people 447 00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:02.460 that are going to be doing things that maybe you don't agree with. Probably, 448 00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:06.019 if you came here to Charlotte and you observed us, we'd be doing 449 00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:07.130 some things, maybe saying some things. You'd be like, well, why 450 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:11.170 do they say that? Right, that could be taken place. There could 451 00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:12.609 be some folks just reaching out, just like you think the ought to. 452 00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:17.009 Either way, maybe there are some folks that are reaching out of the abortion 453 00:30:17.130 --> 00:30:19.410 center and you can take that in and observe that and just see how they 454 00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:23.200 interact and just see what God's doing out there. Listen to what they say. 455 00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.559 How long do they have to say it? You know a lot of 456 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.119 people come and say I'm going to share the Gospel. Well, you the 457 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.559 reality is you got ten seconds, maybe, if you're lucky, maybe fifteen, 458 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.799 and no one's going to share the Gospel in that amount of time. 459 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.190 But there are some effective things that you can call out and yeah, and 460 00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:41.950 watching people that are seasoned. They they kind of been out there a while. 461 00:30:41.029 --> 00:30:45.589 They know from experience what is effective and what is not. That's a 462 00:30:45.670 --> 00:30:48.829 very good use of your time the first time that you're at yeah, and 463 00:30:48.910 --> 00:30:52.180 that's how we do things. When people first come out and we ask them, 464 00:30:52.299 --> 00:30:55.660 we'd say pray and observe you really are good about this, telling them, 465 00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:57.019 Hey, just listen to what she's saying. Just listen and what she's 466 00:30:57.059 --> 00:31:00.259 saying. And of course we do the three talking points thing. If you 467 00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:03.890 guys haven't heard that, please go. I mean we've done podcast about it, 468 00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:07.250 we've talked about it in our podcast. We do it. We talked 469 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.930 about in our training. We wrote an article. I wrote an article months 470 00:31:10.930 --> 00:31:14.369 and months ago, last year sometime, about the three talking points for sidewalk 471 00:31:14.450 --> 00:31:17.690 counselors. And basically it's what God says about this, so what God says 472 00:31:17.690 --> 00:31:19.599 about abortion, that it's wrong. What God says about the baby, the 473 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.960 mom, so what God says. And then it's the humanity of the baby. 474 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.119 Your baby has a heart that's already beating. Your baby is a unique 475 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.319 human being. And then the resources that are available. There's a pregnancy center 476 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.390 down the road, there's a mobile unit right here, there's doctors that will 477 00:31:33.390 --> 00:31:37.349 see you free of charge, whatever resources are available there, and you might 478 00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:40.789 not yet know these things, but these are three talking points that we use 479 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:45.029 and, just like you mentioned the fifteen seconds you might have, you can 480 00:31:45.109 --> 00:31:48.859 put all of these things in a fifteen second spel. I guess you could 481 00:31:48.859 --> 00:31:52.619 say, and if you're going to observe us, you're going to listen into 482 00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:55.019 what our counselors are saying, you're going to pick up on these three talking 483 00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:57.339 points and they're just good. I think they're just good talking points. Yeah, 484 00:31:57.740 --> 00:32:01.690 so that's what you will hopefully be able to have that somewhere near you 485 00:32:01.809 --> 00:32:07.289 where you could go and observe that. The you're of course going to see 486 00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:09.690 the abortion determined women there and you're going to see most of them have, 487 00:32:10.009 --> 00:32:14.569 not most. Good number of them, though, have friends or a driver 488 00:32:14.690 --> 00:32:16.240 or the boyfriend with them. Yeah, and then you're going to see the 489 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.599 opposition, and they're pretty much is some sort of opposition. I think it 490 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.599 at every abortion center, even if it's just the security people. Yeah, 491 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:30.990 yeah, I mean here it Charlotte, and probably all of the abortion centers, 492 00:32:30.990 --> 00:32:35.109 at some point there's some pro abortion opposition, some clinic escort people. 493 00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:37.069 Right in. The escorts are the ones that they take them from the car 494 00:32:37.549 --> 00:32:40.750 to the clinic, kind of hiding them from us. Yeah, they use 495 00:32:40.869 --> 00:32:44.980 umbreller whatever, I feel something. They call themselves as scorts, right. 496 00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:47.940 Yeah, and then maybe you'll have some what they call themselves counter protesters that 497 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:51.779 are be counteracting. We did a whole podcast about that. So we're going 498 00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:53.859 to get not going to give them too much airtime, but that might be 499 00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.769 something you experience, right and you have since in that spiritual battle there, 500 00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:01.289 that these people are really there, deceive their blind like we talked about in 501 00:33:01.329 --> 00:33:06.329 that previous podcast, and they need the Lord, and that's a prayer point. 502 00:33:06.769 --> 00:33:08.650 You can be praying for those people and it helps you really, I 503 00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:15.039 think, to see the battle lines are real again, not against them. 504 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.160 Are Wars, not against the pro abortion people, are wars against the not 505 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.839 flesh and blood, but principalities, these demonic powers, and so you'll you'll 506 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.470 experience some of that. You mentioned about security workers. So at some abortion 507 00:33:28.549 --> 00:33:31.670 centers that I've been to, who don't necessarily have counter protesters or clinic guest 508 00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:36.430 courts, they typically do have security guards. Yeah, and so you might 509 00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:37.750 have some of those folks here. We have those here. We have a 510 00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:42.980 mixed bag of everything here and they're out here. If a car stops to 511 00:33:43.059 --> 00:33:45.380 take our information in the driveway, they come and tell them to keep moving. 512 00:33:45.940 --> 00:33:50.220 A lot of times we don't get distracted in conversations with those people. 513 00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:52.619 They hear the truth. They hear the Gospel Bias Mate as Moses. But 514 00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.809 just be aware there might be some opposition there, there might be some security 515 00:33:55.809 --> 00:34:00.970 guards there and it's good to have a head up on these things, right. 516 00:34:00.049 --> 00:34:05.769 And they're they're typically not there to protect you. Just to just to 517 00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:08.090 let you know. It does say security usually on that shirt, but it 518 00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:13.360 is not for your security, it is it is to for the security that 519 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.159 the abortion agenda goes forward and they usually make sure that you stay off of 520 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:24.429 the property. That and the that the pro abortion group has full range to 521 00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:29.269 do what they want to do to block your voice, but that you are 522 00:34:29.909 --> 00:34:35.110 really kept as silent and as far away as possible. That's kind of the 523 00:34:35.269 --> 00:34:38.260 yes, kind of their role there to secure the perimeter. And some people 524 00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:43.780 call them death scorts, right, but anyone, they usually are. I 525 00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:45.940 must say. I think this is important for you to know in cases, 526 00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:49.940 especially if you come with young children to mourn them, because some of you 527 00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:53.090 will, is that you will hear some very colorful language. Yeah, we 528 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:58.210 honestly do, and and I hate that that's true, but it is true. 529 00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:04.730 I mean the reality is that most of the opposition had have potty mouths 530 00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:08.440 and and very can be very used very vile words. They'll be cussing you. 531 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.519 So I wanted to read this verse because I think it's a an edifying 532 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.920 verse for that issue, because you will face it. And it's psalm sixty 533 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.800 four, one hundred and twenty three. Here my voice. So God, 534 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.269 in my complaint, preserve my life from dread of the enemy, hide me 535 00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:29.349 from the secret plots of the wicked, from the throng of evildoers who wet 536 00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:32.429 their tongues like swords, who aim bitter words like eras. Yeah, and 537 00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:36.059 I think that's what it is. Isn't that apt? That? Oh, 538 00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:38.179 yeah, but but we call upon the Lord, as the SAMAS did, 539 00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:43.699 that we call upon God to just protect us from those bitter words and that 540 00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:46.980 angry and sinful and demonic spirit. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I 541 00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:51.969 think it's some point. Maybe we'll do a podcast about is it appropriate to 542 00:35:52.050 --> 00:35:54.530 bring your children to an abortion center? That's a very miss subject, because 543 00:35:54.610 --> 00:35:58.610 there are very different views about that. There are, there are nothing, 544 00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:00.969 depending on the scenario. I mean, yes, full disclosure, I bring 545 00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:05.639 my children out on Saturdays and we serve the Lord together in that capacity. 546 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.679 Right. I know what they're facing. My kids been raised in this thing. 547 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.719 And my kids are fairly well behaved. Yeah, so maybe we'll do 548 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.599 a podcast about this. I think that's be looking out for. That a 549 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.750 good idea. But that is something consider that you're going to have these these 550 00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:24.590 vile statements coming from these people and sometimes they'll even target children. Right, 551 00:36:24.909 --> 00:36:29.030 not, not really the security guards, in our experience, mainly the pro 552 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:31.230 abortion opposition. But it's a reality to consider. So right, and I 553 00:36:31.269 --> 00:36:36.139 would encourage you your first time out, probably probably not depping, not because, 554 00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:38.659 for one thing, it is very emotional and until you have process that 555 00:36:38.739 --> 00:36:42.860 emotion, I think you probably don't want to expose your kids to that because 556 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.420 you're going to need to explain to them. Yeah. Well, so I 557 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:51.010 want to jump right to some some encouraging stuff in this article that you've written. 558 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:54.170 Yeah, and talk about the glimmers of hope and the fruitful responses. 559 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:58.889 Yeah, because I want you guys to know, and we say it often, 560 00:36:59.769 --> 00:37:01.440 and I think I said it often in this podcast least, but I 561 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.440 know I say it with our new volunteers here, people that get involved in 562 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.400 getting involved, that I make them too, promises if they come out to 563 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.400 an abortion center and I make these promises. I believe based on God's word, 564 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.829 but also based on my experience and this two promises are if you commit 565 00:37:15.949 --> 00:37:20.309 to this ministry, if you commit to come out to an abortion center and 566 00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.789 the Holy Spirit is in you, you're a child of God, two things 567 00:37:22.789 --> 00:37:28.230 are going to happen. Yep. First, God will grow you in areas 568 00:37:28.269 --> 00:37:30.860 of your life spiritually that you would not grow otherwise because of some of the 569 00:37:30.940 --> 00:37:36.420 conflict, because of the spiritual warfare that you don't experience at home. You're 570 00:37:36.460 --> 00:37:39.340 going to be forced to grow in areas. That's like lifting weights. You're 571 00:37:39.340 --> 00:37:45.050 using muscles you don't normally use in American Christianity. We normally don't have this 572 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:49.489 level of conflict, this level of opposition. Yeah, and so it helps 573 00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:52.730 us be more like Jesus, right, because he had a lot of opposition. 574 00:37:52.769 --> 00:37:57.250 Yeah. And the second thing is God will use you to save babies. 575 00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.559 I'm just telling you he will. Now, you might not find out 576 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.000 something about some of those babies that were saved until you stand before the Lord 577 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.480 and he shows you. But I'm telling you, God's word doesn't return void. 578 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.719 And if you come with a Gospel centered motivation that you've come to bring 579 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.429 the Gospel and the hope of Jesus Christ. God will use you to save 580 00:38:17.590 --> 00:38:22.309 babies. Yeah, now, it might not be every time you go out, 581 00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:24.630 it might not be every other time you go out. It might be, 582 00:38:25.269 --> 00:38:29.260 like I said, until you breathe your last breath and you stand before 583 00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:32.099 the Lord and he shows you all the babies that were saved. I'm telling 584 00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:36.059 you, God will use you to say babies. He will, and and 585 00:38:36.659 --> 00:38:40.340 praise God. Sometimes he does give us visible fruit. He does actually quite 586 00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:45.449 often in the facility. That where we see a lot of babies saved. 587 00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:51.010 But on my first day out there I was, you know, close to 588 00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:54.570 tears the whole time, devastated by what I was seeing. Come really completely 589 00:38:54.570 --> 00:39:00.880 unprepared, and then I saw mom choose life. Yeah, and that hooked 590 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.280 me. Yeah, I was like, Oh, I need to do this, 591 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.110 I need to be a part of this, and I think maybe he 592 00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:15.190 knew what a week person I was and that I needed that visible exist, 593 00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:19.349 you know proof, yeah, that the people standing there that it was not 594 00:39:19.469 --> 00:39:22.909 in vain. Maybe other people don't need that as much, but we have 595 00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:28.699 been blessed as a ministry to see it often. Yeah, and it is 596 00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:32.820 such an encouragement and the people that come back years later or continue to stay 597 00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:37.059 in touch with us for years, saying this child, then you watch them 598 00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.690 grow up in the pictures they send. This child wouldn't be here if you 599 00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:45.650 hadn't been there. That's pretty powerful. Yeah, it's powerful. And, 600 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:50.090 guys, think about what we're saying here. Yeah, let's say, because 601 00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.079 we saw last week, praise God, eight MOMS choose life. So eight 602 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.119 baby, say. But let's say you're at an abortion center and you're there 603 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.840 for a month and you only see one mom choose life, only one baby 604 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.719 saved, and that's all you're able to see as far as fruit and, 605 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.989 depending on the the scenario, whatever, it could be very difficult to have 606 00:40:09.110 --> 00:40:13.469 conversations with these MOMS and to really find out whether or not they chose life. 607 00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:17.230 Yeah, but think about that. Well, just one baby saved in 608 00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:21.349 a month's time, just one baby saved in a year's time, just one 609 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:27.139 baby, just one life, just one human being made in the image of 610 00:40:27.179 --> 00:40:30.219 a holy God, a little image bearer. Take take the just out of 611 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:37.170 that. Right, we're talking one life that has been saved from death. 612 00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:40.449 Guys, that is worth the sacrifice. Yeah, how many people can say 613 00:40:40.489 --> 00:40:45.929 that? That my in in my service to the Lord today there was a 614 00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:51.320 literal life, yeah, saved, rescued. Yeah, and beyond that, 615 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.960 Gospel seeds sown. Listen, when a mom chooses life and she decides not 616 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.320 to have her baby killed through abortion, and you have been instrumental in that 617 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.789 influence of her choose in life and, of course your life, you know, 618 00:41:05.909 --> 00:41:08.030 overflows with the love of God and you've certainly, if you've talked to 619 00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:10.150 her, you've shared with her while you're out there, and she knows. 620 00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:13.949 Listen, you only have to share why you're out there. She knows why 621 00:41:13.989 --> 00:41:15.429 you're out there. You're out there praying, you're out there reaching out, 622 00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:21.739 you're using God's word, of course effectively, and you are sewing those gospel 623 00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:24.820 seeds as well. And that child is going to grow up knowing, hopefully 624 00:41:24.860 --> 00:41:28.460 that MOM will share. Maybe that mom won't share, but for a lot 625 00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:30.500 of the MOM's that we've had encounters with, that mom has shared where they 626 00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:34.210 were at. Ultimately, when that child is able to understand, in a 627 00:41:34.250 --> 00:41:37.489 way that that child can understand, that child knows because there was a Christian 628 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:43.010 there, my life was spared. That's amazing. It's amazing, guys. 629 00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:45.650 Yeah, so we would encourage you, guys, with that. And then, 630 00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.320 just to wrap this thing up, I think this is an important point, 631 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.320 and this is after you've gone out there for your first time and you've 632 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.679 experienced some of what we're talking about. Maybe some of it you haven't experienced. 633 00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.679 As far as the opposition, maybe there's no opposition there, praise God 634 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:05.630 for that, but still you've experienced the spiritual tension and you've experienced the horror 635 00:42:05.630 --> 00:42:07.989 of abortion right there where it takes place. Yeah, I feel like it's 636 00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:12.590 very important, and I do this even now sometimes, especially when it's been 637 00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:16.579 a very difficult day and we've experienced maybe some opposition that we had an experienced 638 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:20.300 in a while, or what it's trumped up or whatever, or maybe it's 639 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.380 a it's a situation where we had an awesome encounter with a mom that chose 640 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:25.659 life. I like to debrief with the Lord. That's what I call it, 641 00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:31.010 debriefing with Jesus. So I'm driving away in my car and I'm thinking 642 00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:37.449 through what happened and I'm talking to the Lord in prayer about it, because 643 00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:39.449 he knew it, he saw it, he's there right right, and so 644 00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:44.320 I'm saying, Lord, this opposition came and I'm just thinking it all through 645 00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.039 just processing, and really what it is, it's just process and processing it 646 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.119 in your relationship with the Lord. Right. Yeah, that's a really, 647 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.639 really good thing to do, because I will hear people say a lot of 648 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.750 times go home and talk with your family or, you know, share with 649 00:42:58.829 --> 00:43:01.110 a loved one, and that's all fine and good, but I think processing 650 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:06.510 it with the Lord is absolutely the most important and first step, because he's 651 00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:08.829 the one that has empowered you to do what you did, he has seen 652 00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:13.059 everything and he's the one that's going to strengthen you to do it again the 653 00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.940 next time. Yeah, absolutely, show up. Yeah, and there may 654 00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:20.739 be a situation in which, I know there's been situations, plenty of situations 655 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:23.940 in my case, where I've said things, after my first, second, 656 00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:28.289 third, after years of being out there, that like I shouldn't have said. 657 00:43:28.289 --> 00:43:30.090 Yeah, like that was stupid. I went over the line, and 658 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:35.849 maybe some opposition with the pro abortion people and whatever, and sometimes I need 659 00:43:35.929 --> 00:43:38.969 to process that before the Lord and ask the Lord God, should I apologize 660 00:43:39.050 --> 00:43:43.960 to that person? I've apologized to probortion people for because I've said things that 661 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.840 I shouldn't say. Yeah, thankfully, not too terrible, but just things 662 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.880 that I regret having said and I apologized, as some of these people, 663 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.320 and so that's that's part of me process. And now this course for you 664 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.869 guys, is always down the road. But even just maybe you just started 665 00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:01.949 calling out to the mom's going in and before the Lord may be process, 666 00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:06.030 like Lord, should I said that at that particular time, because the Lord 667 00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:08.150 can give us wisdom, the Lord can help us and he can guide us 668 00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:12.659 into saying the right things at the right time. Yeah, and so even 669 00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:15.460 process and what you've said. Did I say this effectively? Did should? 670 00:44:15.460 --> 00:44:20.099 I've reached out to that person in that way. And let the Lord, 671 00:44:20.619 --> 00:44:23.059 as he's by his Holy Spirit, teaching you, because the Bible says that 672 00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:27.170 he is our teacher, the holy spirits our teacher. Let the Lord teach 673 00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:30.289 you to be more effective. Yeah, let the Lord teach you when to 674 00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:31.769 say what, that sort of thing right, and he will. And also 675 00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:37.599 to pray. I will often, as I'm leaving, pray gratitude for the 676 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:43.000 lives that I've seen, seen saved, if I've had that privilege, but 677 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.760 also for the opportunities, because there's always opportunities, almost always. You've had 678 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.989 opportunities to interact with with women and to just pray that those seeds that that 679 00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:57.630 have been planted would indeed grow. We had a woman I counseled for like 680 00:44:57.710 --> 00:45:01.309 an hour car side today and she's I don't know what she's going to choose. 681 00:45:01.349 --> 00:45:05.269 So I as soon as I finished, I was just I felt like 682 00:45:05.510 --> 00:45:09.739 I had been really through a physical battle. I've just I could barely walk, 683 00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:14.619 I was so weak just because, you know, I kind of gave 684 00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:20.699 everything. But so I know all this afternoon I've been thinking over the discussion 685 00:45:20.739 --> 00:45:24.489 and just pausing in my heart to pray. Yeah, and think, use 686 00:45:24.570 --> 00:45:28.449 those words, use your spirit, Lord, to convict her, because I 687 00:45:28.489 --> 00:45:30.849 think she was very close to she didn't kill her baby today, but I 688 00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:35.210 think that she is. I think she's going to make a choice for life. 689 00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.039 But but that that time, after it's all over, after you're out 690 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.960 of the battle, to remember, well, God is still working, yeah, 691 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:46.039 and ask him to intercede in whoever's lives you've touched while you've been out 692 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.309 there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, guys, we hope this 693 00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:53.710 was an encouragement to y'all. There's more than what we covered in this podcast, 694 00:45:54.389 --> 00:45:58.590 but we wanted to shorten it a little bit. But Vicki's written a 695 00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:01.070 wonderful article here and we're going to put that on the sidewalks for life site 696 00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:05.539 because it gives a little more in depth. Please let us know if there's 697 00:46:05.539 --> 00:46:08.900 subjects we can cover, things that maybe you have questions about, that you 698 00:46:08.940 --> 00:46:12.699 would want for us to cover. We'd love to cover those. Shoot me 699 00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:15.940 an email. D Parks at cities for lifecom and her V Cossey Org at 700 00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:21.650 cities for lifecom. We'd love to interact with you guys and share with you 701 00:46:21.690 --> 00:46:24.530 any encouragement we can. We appreciate it's an encouragement to us that you guys 702 00:46:24.530 --> 00:46:28.889 are listening. We appreciate that. Just pray that you guys continue to be 703 00:46:28.969 --> 00:46:36.320 blessed as you serve him. And until next time, God bless give me 704 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:49.510 our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. I know it 705 00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:58.469 will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious and some you