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So while abortion is legal in these
United States of America and they are still
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abortion clinics, there's over seven hundred
of them in the United States of America
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currently. We need to be there. I Am Yours, I am yours,
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I am yours. Welcome to the
Gospel Center pro life podcast. Many
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have confidence that if we have a
conservative Supreme Court and that will overturn ruby
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wait and thereby ind abortion. But
is this true? Join us as we
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look at this from a biblical and
practical perspective. State tuned me, Lord,
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I felt show Passish, touch your
heart, use me. Welcome to
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the Gospel Center pro life podcast.
Appreciate you guys listening and we would appreciate
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if you guys would share these with
your friends, maybe even on social media.
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Let folks know that you're listening and
what episodes you think would be a
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blessing to others. Just share those, share those on Facebook, whatever other
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social media that you're involved in,
so that we can get more folks listening.
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And I think what we're doing is
encouraging people, especially those who are
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involved in frontline pro life ministry.
At the abortion center's we want to encourage
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as many people as possible to get
involved to be well equipped out there.
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We just put a podcast out last
week about burnout and how to avoid ministry
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burnout. I think that podcast will
be a real blessing to people, will
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especially people that have been out there
for a while and been doing ministry for
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a good while, because it's easy
to get burned out, right it is.
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So there's some principles that I think
we shared in that podcast. It
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be a blessing to people who are
maybe on the edge of getting burned out
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or even maybe getting toward crispy.
And if you don't know what that is,
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listen to that podcast. You'll find
out about that. But we thought
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is in kind of a timely way
in this episode we would talk about the
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Supreme Court. Now just will preface
this with the fact that we're not legal
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experts, nor do we play one
on TV. Even play one on TV.
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I'm not an expert on the Constitution, although I do love the constitution.
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It's one of the things that really
sets our nation apart. Yeah,
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to be a constitutional Republican and to
be the freest nation that I think has
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ever existed in humanities. Existence is
is it says something. Says something about
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our constitution but I'm not an expert
on the constitution. I know some stuff,
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but not everything. I'm not an
expert on the Supreme Court, nor
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I'm a even an expert on Rovwade. People come to me. I'm like
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and in my circles, I guess
family and friends and stuff. I'm like
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the pro life guy, so I
should know all of the answers about Rovy
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Wade and and the laws and all
that stuff. I don't. I know
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some of it, but I'll just
let you guys know right off bat that
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I don't put a whole lot of
stock in the political system. I don't
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put a whole lot a lot of
stock in the Supreme Court, but these
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things are important and with the death
of Ruth Bader Ginsberg and the potential nomination
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of Amy Conny Barrett Ate, listen, you guys are lucky that I even
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remember those names. Okay, yes, and tell me. I know her
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name is amy. Yeah, that's
about it. So with that going on,
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I think it's timely for us to
talk about this. And really the
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subject is will the Supreme Court in
abortion. There's a lot of talk about
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overturning movie way there has been for
a while as a matter of fact,
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that's why a lot of people voted
for Donald Trump back in two thousand and
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sixteen, Hey, because they really
felt like he would put justice as in
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place that would overturn rovy wait and
he said that. He said that was
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his intention. Yeah, and so
a lot of folks were they didn't like
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his character too much, they voted
for him. I was actually one of
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those people. Yeah, and thinking
that it's possible that Rovy Wade could be
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overturned by some justices that are put
in place by him. But it's kind
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of a like for me. Again, I don't put a whole lot of
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stock in the political system. I
do think that Supreme Court justices have a
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lot of sway and or at least
have a lot to do with our political
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system, in the way it works. Understand the checks and balances that are
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there and I think it's important to
have conservative judges in place. But just
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let you guys know, I don't
think that abortion is going to be ended
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by the Supreme Court or by any
other entity right, but we're going to
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talk about that. Yeah, I
could be wrong. Yeah, we are.
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And and part of this for me, that prompted me to want to
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look into this a little bit more. Was One of our counselors saying,
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so what if Rov Wade is overturned? Yeah, what will the prolife people
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do then? Yeah, and that
that is part of a question that we're
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going to talk about. Because we
have any purpose in life, will we
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still have any way to serve God
right sunborn children? And Short answer,
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yeah, she will, and and
we're going to get into use their lost
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people in the world. Yeah,
there's going to be a need for the
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Gospel, and this is something that
we've said often and that I'll continue to
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say. We're not out there on
the sidewalk is prolife activists. I'm not
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out there motivated by just a prolife
Anster or bend politically or anything like that.
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I'm out there because I'm a Christian
right and there are people dying.
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Yeah, and the Gospel is needed
and it's a mission field. I'm out
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there as a missionary, like we've
talked about in previous in a previous podcast
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and several other podcasts. This is
a missionary endeavor and so we're not out
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there as activists and my main purpose
in life is not to be a prolife
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activists, it's to be a Christian, right, and because I'm a Christian,
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I'm out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, an important dynamic for
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people to understand. Right. But
Rov Rov Wade is clearly and a very
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important decision in one thousand nine hundred
and seventy three. And and so we
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kind of went through logically building the
the case for explain what is going to
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happen when if Rov Wade is overturned. And we started off just maybe talk
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a little bit about the history,
okay, of yea, of abortion and
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of Rov Wade and the that one
thousand nine hundred and seventy three decision.
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Yeah. Well, first I'll say
this is we first started talking about doing
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this podcast a couple of weeks ago, doing this episode, and I told
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you, one of the things that
drives me insane is when people, pro
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life people or whoever talks about pro
choice, people talk about when Rov Wade
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was passed. Right. Yeah,
Rov Rovy Wade was not a law.
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Right, so it can't be passed. Right. So only the legislative branch
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can actually pass laws. Right,
right, that's how the system of government
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works in the United States of America. Yeah, the Supreme Court doesn't pass
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laws. Now to say it correctly, is the decision, the Rovy Wade
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decision was handed down. So this
was the decision that the Supreme Court made
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based on the the whole case of
Roe versus Wade. Right. And so
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if you guys are using that in
your vernacular when Rov Wade was passed and
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we want the law of Rovy Wade
to be overturned, it's not a law.
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Yeah, and it wasn't passed.
Yeah, it was a decision that
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was handed down by the Supreme Court. So Handy to say clear on that
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is a good way. Is that
to say it? Okay, okay,
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Rovy Wade was decided. You could
say that. Yeah, yeah, but
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let's jump into the history of Rov
Wade. Some folks may be kind of
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new to this battle and don't really
know a whole lot about it. Maybe
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you do know a little bit about
it and you need to know some more.
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We'll try to inform you. Again, not as experts, yeah,
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but as folks that know know something. Yeah, and we've read a few
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articles about it, right, yeah, yeah, so jump into that.
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Yeah, okay. So so Roe, Jane Rowe Norman mccorvey, was a
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young woman who, I believe she
lived in Texas at the time. Correct,
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and she she wanted an abortion,
she didn't want her baby, and
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the the people that were trying to
push for abortion rights really used her,
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yeah, and said, okay,
she is the perfect case to for us
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to work its way up through the
courts to try and bring it to the
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Supreme Court level. Right, let
me say this to that some people don't
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particularly understand, but this needs to
be a clear understanding that people have.
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Before Rovy Wade, before one thousand
nine hundred and seventy three was January twenty
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two. One thousand nine hundred and
seventy three, abortion was legal in this
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country. Yeah, there were states
where you could go and have an abortion.
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New York is one of those state. Probably California, I'm not sure.
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So the aim out all the states, thus the their legislature had had
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cast laws that allowed women to receive
an abortion. Correct, it was the
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state's decision, it was correct states
decision. So I'll just say on its
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face, if the decision of Rov
Wade is is counteracted by some other decision
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of the Supreme Court, then it
will buy default go back to the states.
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So abortion, and again we'll get
more in depth with this, but
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abortion is not going to be ended
by overturning row vy way. It'll just
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go back to the states. So
we have to have that understanding at this
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particular time. It was not legal
to have an abortion in the state of
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Texas. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, it was
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legal with some of the exceptions like
rape and incest and the health of the
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mother, but those are exceptions.
Are always used for fullblown abortion on demand
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and plus we should never use those
exceptions unless we believe a baby that was
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conceived in rape as less of a
human being that a baby that was not
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we should stay far away from those
arguments, and right we. I did
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an episode months and months and months, okay, maybe even a year ago,
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with Flip Benham who talked about incrementalism
and the danger of incrementary incrementalism and
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some of the legislation, and he
talks about some of that stuff. There's
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a lot of articles out there about
that, so I guess can check that
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out. But abortion was, at
least in some measure, not legal in
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Texas. They took the opportunity with
miss row normal mccorvy, with her situation,
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to basically make abortion legal for all
fifty of the United States of America,
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because it was sudden fair that here
she is in Texas and other people
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in other states where abortion is legal
had access to abortion, but she did
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not. And that was part of
their argument, that that it should be
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universally available. Yeah, national was
all said and done, she didn't have
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an abortion in right now, she
didn't see was she was a pawn.
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And now there's been recently there was
a documentary done about her and how she
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actually was a pawn for the prolife
people. Right, unfortunately, she was
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used by a pawn or as a
pawn by the pro choice people and maybe
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buy some pro life people, although
I'll tell you this, I know flip
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personally. Yeah, and any accusation
brought against him as using her as a
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pawn is just, I mean,
it is garbage. Absolutely guardless that that
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dude is one. He's not a
deceiver, let me tell you. He's
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going to tell you what he thinks, what he what he believes and what
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he what he knows to be the
king of fault to him. All that
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right, he's not going to be
deceiving anybody, right, and it's not
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like because he was accused of giving
her like half a million dollars or something
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like that. Utterly ridiculn guarantee flip
does not have him about his tattered rags
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that he wears the place often time. rightually, his shoes were duck taped
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together at one point. Winner so
maybe flip will listen to this. Yeah,
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be blessed, but he's encouraging words. But either way, I'm just
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saying that's just that's garbage. And
what she manipulated? She was certainly manipulated
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by the true pro choice people.
That's there's no doubt about that. Well,
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she manipulated by prolife groups? Possibly? Yeah, I'm not sure.
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But anyway, that's kind of a
rabbit trail. So let's jump into the
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that's a little bit of the background
of Rovu waiting in not in debt and
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so. But the court held that. Do say this at the court held
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that a women's right to an abortion
was himplicit in the right to privacy protected
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by the Fourteenth Amendment and the Constitution. That's how it is. ACISION was
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made that you had a woman had
an implicit right to privacy through the fourteen
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amendment and abortion fell somehow into that. Yeah, right to privacy and we're
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going to kind of dismantle why that
really is not an appropriate decision, not
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based on our great knowledge, but
based on articles we read. Ye,
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though, even that one I could
probably maybe have. Yeah, I've dealt
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with so let's jump into the subject
of will there not rovy wait is constitution.
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Okay, now you've read a little
bit on that and so just kind
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of give me your Spiel, right, right. Yeah, so I read
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an article and, by the way, we can probably post this. I
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have. I have put together many, many articles into a single paper where
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we go through the things that we're
going to be discussing today and we give
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every reference, because there's too many
of them for me to give you over
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the podcast. But one of the
articles which did talk about whether Rovy Wade
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was constitutional, and you can find
that Lincoln. When we post this podcast,
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we will also post to this article. But it listed the top ten
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reasons why it was not constitutional,
and we're not going to go through all
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ten, but but maybe the top
three or four of them. So one
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of them was the court's decision and
Rovy Wade exceeded its constitutional authority, and
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you've already touched on this. It
is the Supreme Court, a legislate of
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branch of government. No, no, so. And yet the law of
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nationally could not be passed to allow
abortions in every state. They were unsuccessful
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the abortion rights people. So what
happened instead was they push this case up
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through the Supreme Court to have the
Supreme Court basically change United States law,
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or make really not change may there
wasn't a law, so to make what
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became, quote, the law of
the land. Yeah, and basically they
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used again the fourteenth amendment right to
say, well, this fits into the
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category of a woman's right to privacy
right and and one of the quotes that
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I have from this first point that
it was unconstitutional. I'm just going to
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read what it says because they say
it better than I could. Under the
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legal system established by the US Constitution, the power to make laws is vested
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in Congress and retained by state legislatures. It is not the role of the
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Supreme Court to substitute the policy preference
of its members for those expressed in laws
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enacted by the People's electric elected representatives. The role of the judiciary and constitutional
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review is to determine if the law
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and that's not what happened. And
ropey Wade. Okay. So this
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second main point for why Rov Wade
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that the court misrepresents the history of
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So in row vy wade the court
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their opinion, there was a long
historical practice of the right to an abortion.
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Okay, that was part of their
premise in in upholding or in the
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decision, and that it was widely
practiced and unpunished until the appearance of restrictive
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laws in what they describe as the
brutishly Victorian nineteen century. Okay, but
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in fact the hippocratic oath which every
doctor takes said and had all the way
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through one thousand nine hundred and sixty
eight, says. His fame is that
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famous oath which has guided medical ethics
for over twozero years. Says in part,
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and this is a quote, I
will give no deadly medicine to anyone
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if asked, nor suggest any such
council. And in like manner, I
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will not give to a woman a
pessary to produce abortion. So something that's
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going to was her to yeah,
to abort her child, and that enduring
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standard was followed until the rovy way
waited era and through one thousand nine hundred
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and sixty eight. And in fact
it the declaration of the World Medical Association
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said, I will maintain they had
the doctors continue the oath. I will
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maintain the utmost respect for human life
from the time of conception. Yeah.
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So in that it's saying things,
every of them looking back and saying there's
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been like historical precedent. And so
all we're doing with our decision is saying
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what history is already said, that
women do have a right to an abortion.
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It's a common thing and it's not
been punish under all that was all
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just a farce. It was not
true. Right, it was not true.
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And and Justice Black Man, who
was, I believe, the justice
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who wrote the the opinion and Rov
wait, dismisses this universal, unbroken ethical
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tradition as nothing more than a fringe
Greek sect manifesto. So we would we
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would disagree that the court accurately represented
the history of abortion practice. Yeah,
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and and attitudes. Yeah, all
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court distorts the purpose and legal weight
of State Criminal abortioned statutes. And so
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let me read what they wrote because
again and they I am not a scholar,
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a constitutional scholar, but the person
writing this was. Okay, in
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the nineteen century and virtually every state
and territory, laws were enacted to define
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abortion as a crime throughout pregnancy.
They contained only narrow exceptions, generally permitting
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abortion only if necessary to preserve the
mother's life. And the primary reason for
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those stricter abortion laws was to protect
greater protection for the unborn baby. So
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the court distorted that truth, that
the laws up to that point we're not
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supporting a woman's right to abortion and
in fact the very opposite was true.
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They were generally supporting and overwhelmingly supporting
protecting that unborn life. Okay, so
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what's being said here is the consideration
for these laws was for the unborn child
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and basically reiterating with the Bible has
always said that life is precious, invaluable,
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even in the womb. Right,
that's right. And up to up
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till this point in our country's history, the unborn child was seen as valuable,
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his life sacred, yeah, and
protected and should be protected, and
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there was broad acceptance of that prior
to the Rovy Wade are yeah, okay,
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so okay. How about this one? This was another major one,
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a privacy right, which was,
of course, the fourteenth amendment. A
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privacy right to decide to have an
abortion has no foundation in the text or
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history of the Constitution. So the
court did not even be pretend that they
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were examining whether the intent of the
drafters of the fourteen amendment ever intended something
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like abortion to to be included in
a privacy amendment or in a privacy yet.
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And a privacy amendment it was.
The fourteenth amendment was not intended to
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create any new rights, such as
a right to abortion, but it was
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to it was actually to secure to
all people, notably freed slaves and their
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descendants, the rights and liberties that
had already been granted by the Constitution.
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So was never to make a new
right, as did happen. That was
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what it was used for. In
deciding on Rovy way, the way that
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it was decide, grievous way to
use the fourteenth amendment, when it was
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intended to help these freed slaves and
their descendants, and yet they turn it
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around and make it into a woman's
right to abort her child. Would a
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grievous way to turn things on their
head. Yeah, so this is really
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interesting and I'm going to read what
they say. The court mentioned so of
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All specifically enumerated rights which concern an
aspect of privacy. For example, the
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fourth amendments with this is, quote, right of the people to be secure
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in their houses, papers and effects, again against unreasonable searches and seizures.
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But the court fails to connect those
to the newly found right to abortion,
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because no logical connection exists. And
so this privacy right had been expanded to
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encompass so many aspects of life that
you could apply this to virtually any conduct
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performed outside of the public view,
including child abuse, pornography. Now,
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that is not what it was expanded
to. But why not? Right,
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because the logical conclusion from that exactly. People can shoot up drugs in their
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home, whatever pause. That right
and always as long as you're doing it
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in private, abuse each other,
abuse children, sexual traffic children in your
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home because of the right to privacy. Yeah, so, basically the point
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is that's a ridiculous application of the
fourteenth amendment. Right. Yeah, okay,
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the next one, although it reads
the fourteen amendment extremely expansively, to
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include a right of privacy to decide
whether to abort a child. The CORDIN
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rovy way to adopts a very narrow
construction of the meaning of persons and specifically
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the excludes unborn children. Yeah,
so on one hand they're expansively expand while
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they're expanding what the fourteenth amendment never
meant to protect, but they're narrowing what
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the word persons includes so that unborn
children are not included in the weird persons
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in so I'll say just just a
springboard on that and to speak from it
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from a biblical perspective good and which
is one of the reasons why. So
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I don't want anyone to take from
this podcast that we don't think that rovywage
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should be returned. It should be
that decision should be should be rejected.
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Right. The reason why is not
because it will end abortion. The reason
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why because, as a nation,
that would be part and parcel to repenting.
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Yes, because what we did as
a nation and the people that we
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put in positions of power, especially
the Supreme Court, well, what they
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did was they slapped God in the
face. Yeah, they told their creator,
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we don't need you, we don't
want you. On our land.
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Yeah, and all, after all, human beings don't have intrinsic value,
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right, and it's really an offense
to God, which is why this thing
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needs to this decision needs to be
rejected. One Organization Calls Rovy way not
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the law of the land, the
lie of the land. Yeah, and
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it really is. Yeah, and
so as a nation, this is part
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of repentance. We need to repent
that we have excluded, as you just
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said, out in from this article. They excluded unborn children from the category
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of persons. We need right pant
for that as a nation, right,
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and part of that would be overturning
of rovy way. Yeah, but again,
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as we're going to talk about in
just a little bit, I don't
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believe overturning Rovy Wade is going to
end abortion, right, and we'll talk
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about what will at the very end. So there's a whole bunch of other
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main points that they make, but
they they do ignore by, just to
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add a little bit more to the
last one we just mentioned, they ignore
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the clear and uncontested biological evidence before
them that individual human lives Beakin at conception.
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We really do not need to resolve
that difficult question of when life begins,
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though, honestly, because this question
is determined by science. We know
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that now and they knew that then. But, like you said, it's
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kind of a direct rejection of God, so that it's kind of a quote
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from the court itself. We don't
need to resolve this difficult question of when
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life begins. I think it was. Yeah, I think I think it
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was. So they're basically saying in
that that yeah, it could be,
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could not be. Could be life, could not be, life, the
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matter. They side step it.
It doesn't matter. They said step it,
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you know. Yeah, the one
analogy that's given, and I forget
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it, was it was a surprise
life apologetics guy, maybe Scott clues indoor
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for something he says, you know, if there's a building and they're about
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to demolish the building and you ask
the guy who's about to push the button,
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hey, is there any life in
there? And Wow, we didn't
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check, we don't know. We
don't have really have to resolve this question.
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Well, you'd need to resolve that
question before you push the button and
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detonate, you know, the the
the bomb that's going to take that building
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down. We need to if we're
talking this is human life and the potential
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for human life and this is possibly
a human life. We need to be
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careful, right, don't you think? Exactly. No, let's just haphazardly
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decide that. Yeah, personhood doesn't
include unborn yeah. And and they're saying
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that's a question to be decided by
science, philosopher's theologians, and they don't
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answer it. But then, but
then they resolve the question at birth by
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allowing abortion to be legal throughout pregnancy. That they referred to the unborn child
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as a potential life. Yeah,
and so on one hand they're saying,
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Oh, we don't know when life
begins and that's not up to us and
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side stepping the question, and on
the other hand they're saying it's not life,
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it's potential, like yeah, so
they're kind of talking out of both
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sides of their mouth there. And
then, you know, scientifically, come
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on, scientifically, an unborn child
and embryo is, I go, a
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fetus, whatever label you want to
put on an unborn child, it is
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a separate entity than the mother.
It is an organism by definition, if
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it is a separate organism than the
mother, right, and that's just undisputable.
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Yeah, now you can talk about
philosophically whether or not that life has
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value, and that's not what this
podcast us is about, although maybe we'll
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do one in the future about that. Yeah, you can maybe talk philosophically
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about it, but science, scientifically, there is life in the womb and
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it's a separate life, it's a
unique life. Then the mother, and
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so that question is well resolved for
sure. And the whole idea of viability
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was part of that decision, of
the Rov Wade decision and not knowing really
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when the child was viable, but
thinking it was much, much later.
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Yeah, that and it really was. I mean whether the child could survive
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with medical intervention was much later back
then. But now we have ultrasounds.
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We didn't have in fact, let
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We the ultrasound. I was actually
training a doctor today, okay,
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and as a subposition to become a
sidewalk counselor really, really great woman.
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And she said, and she's around
my age so she said, when she
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was starting her her studies, her
medical study, she said they're there were
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an ultrasounds, or if they were, they were so rudimentary. And she
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said we, we believed, we
doctors believed it really was a clump of
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cells. That's how she was trained. She bought the whole Rov Wade Movement
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and the and the socalled pro choice
movement because she believed that lie, that
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it was only a clump of cells
and that's what medical science kind of was
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showing at the time. But we
know for a fact that just it was
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so inaccurate and we have proof now. We can look at ultra sounds.
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We can see it's not a clump
of sound. Absolutely. We've seen plenty
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of ultrasounds. You can see an
ultrasound at six seven weeks along. Now,
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six weeks baby's very small. Basically
what you can pick up is the
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heartbeat, but you can see that
very clearly. Nine weeks. I remember
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seeing what my wife was pregnant with
our twins, Abigail and Bethany. She
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showed me the first ultrasound. I
wasn't there. Actually it was kind of
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I won't get into that story,
but it was kind of unique story.
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worked at a hospital at the time,
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so she slipped over because she knew
the lady that worked in the ultrasound area
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and she's got to see really quick
peek at our baby and little as she
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know, we actually had two.
That was a pretty amazing story and anyway,
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Long Story Short, she had a
video of it, seeing those two
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babies on that ultrasounde. I've never
seen twin. I've seen a couple of
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ultrasounds at that point, but I've
never seen too. Yeah, babies in
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the woman. I remember seeing their
little arms moving back and forth. I
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remember seeing their little hearts beating,
you know, separate heartbeats and all of
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that. I share all that to
say that at nine weeks along, I'm
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a dude that doesn't have medical expertise
and I can com plainly see on that
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ultrasound right, those were two separate
lives, right, and those were human
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being. Yeah, and you know
what I hear all the time from our
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opposition out on the sidewalk when I'll
describe what I've seen on the many I've
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seen hundreds of ultrasounds now now I'm
out I've been out there a long time,
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and they say we're making it up
and that this is all a lie.
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And that is the attempt, as
what happened in Rovy Wade, to
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dehumanize that precious little baby, because
otherwise it's monstrous. It's monstrous with their
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suggesting should be a right. Yeah, which mean is monstrous. It is
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monstrous. And that brings to the
last one. That of these that we're
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going to discuss about is a constitution. The court describes the right to abortion
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as fundamental yeah, and so the
Supreme Court has found that there are certain
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fundamental rights which are either explicitly expressed
or implied in the constitution. They're considered
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deeply rooted in the history of the
American people and some of those rights fundamental
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rights. So listen to this.
Okay, free exercise of religion, the
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right to marry, the right to
a fair trial and equal protection. Yeah,
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and every fundamental right comes under a
there's a strict scrutiny. Listen to
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the those that list of fundamental rights. And now add to that list the
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right to kill an unborn child.
Yeah, this is a fundamental right.
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Is All of the fundamental rights?
God, right. All the fundamental rights
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listed were positives, things that every
one should equally enjoy, that there should
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be justice for all, the law
equally applied. So let's talk a little
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real quick about the results of Rov
Wade. Many of you guys knows.
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Yeah, that's good. You guys
know that since one thousand nine hundred and
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seventy three we've killed, it's been
about sixty five million unborn children in the
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womb forty seven years. About sixty
five million in our country, here in
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the United States of American, our
country. And again, that grieves the
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heart of the Lord. Yeah,
these children are made in God's image and
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it's not that. We've killed these
sixty five million and and that's all there
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is to it. As a nation, we've put our stamp of approval on
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that. We've liked this language that
we talked about, called it a fundamental
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right of a person to kill their
unborn child. We've rejected the humanity.
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We did that in the dread Scott
decision in the Supreme Court. We did
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that as it concerns Africans who were
brought over here in others who were brought
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over here and sold, bought and
sold as slaves. We rejected their humanity
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and that grieve the heart of God. And it's just my theory. You
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guys can argue with me if you
want to, but I believe the civil
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war was God's judgment on this nation
for what we did through slavery here in
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America. It was ultimately rectified in
one sense through that bloody civil war,
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but that was the judgment of God
on this nation for what we did,
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and we should expect no less unless
God would be merciful, and he's merciful
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and he's kind. In the church. We need to be crying out to
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God for mercy for our nation.
But when we've killed sixty five million of
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our own unborn children in the womb. Yeah, that is a grievous effect
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of this rovwight. Again, it
was something that we put from the highest
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level of government, our stamp of
approve alonge. Yeah, and God's not
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okay with that now. He's a
god of Justice and he cannot turn a
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blind eye to what has happened.
A million a year is yeah, baby's
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are killed, correct. Yeah,
million, million here. Yeah, I
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mean I state, United States,
American. Those are ones that are accounted
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for. Right. There are some
states that don't keep very good accounts of
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how many abortions are taking place,
and so sixty five millions maybe the best
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estimate that's out there. Yeah,
but it's likely more than that. And
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then worldwide through abortion and me we're
talking probably what billions of people that have
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been murdered. Yeah, by abortion. Yes, one thing, one of
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the things that we say within love
life is that this is the number one
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cause of death in the United States. It's not heart disease, it's not
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cancer, as grievous as those things
are and as many lives as they take,
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which is terrible, but abortion far
exceeds the numbers the cancer and heart
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disease and any other ailment that takes
people's lives. Abortion supersedes all of them.
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It is the number one leading cause
of death in our city, in
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our state, in the United States
of America and in the world. Yeah,
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and that's just the unborn babies.
That's not to talk about the carnage
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that it causes in the families and
the women themselves, which is overwhelming.
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Yeah, and the the aftermath,
the effects, the terrible effects, and
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at the destruction of the family.
Yeah, absolutely. So. Yeah,
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there's a terrible legacy from from rov
waite. It has had some pretty devastating
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results. Yeah. Well, let's
let's go ahead and jump into what if
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this new justice, yeah, is
confirmed? Yeah, what if the legislative
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body, like is designed in the
constitution, approves this, confirms this justice,
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just as Amy Coney Barrett. Yeah, and she sits on the Supreme
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Court. Yeah. Yeah, will
Rov Wade be overturned? Yeah, so
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trump, in two thousand and sixteen
said it was part of his platform that
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he was definitely going to be one
of his goals was to overturn Rovy Wade,
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okay, and he vowed to appoint
justices who would overturn Rovy Wade.
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He said he hoped that that would
happen automatically because he was going to put
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pro life justices on the court.
And then he even said, which you've
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already said, because you're more of
a scholar, constitutional scholar, than me,
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that it will go back to the
states. Yeah, that the states
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would then make the determination. So, Amy Coney Bear, am I saying
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her name right? Jamie Coney Barrett
has spoken openly about her Catholic faith.
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She was asked, as many circuit
court judges were asked, what they felt
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about what their personal views on Rov
Wade was or were, and she said
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that all nominees are united in their
belief that what they think about a precedent
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should not bear on how they decide
cases. So what that means is that
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the precedent is set by Rov Wade
that abortion is allowed in in our nation.
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And and the the court upheld that
precedent in another, another case.
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I forget when that happened, but
it's the case where case Casey is the
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name of that case. Okay.
And and so there's at least two precedents.
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And here whod versus Casey correct and
herrect in one thousand nine hundred and
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ninety two correct. So can can
the precedent be be overturned and and it?
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Or can can the court go against
a a precedent? And and we're
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going to talk about that a little
bit more thoroughly in in just a second.
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But if Barrett is confirmed, which
it looks like she probably will be,
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okay, probably before the election even, and the court indeed overturns the
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precedent of Rovy Wade, and then
the case the plan parenthood versus Casey,
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the issue would be left to the
states, which would set up, of
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course, intense fights in state legislators
and legal observers said, leading to an
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even more patchwork system. This is
the a pro choice person right is,
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by the way, where abortion rights
hinche almost entirely on where a person lives.
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Yeah, so I if she's confirmed, there is going to be a
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majority of conservative justices who have already
indicated they would be eager to get an
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abortion case up all the way through
to the Supreme Court and that they they
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certainly believe that precedent can be challenged. Yeah, in in the Supreme Court.
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In lower courts, no, but
in the Supreme Court it can be,
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and that's how bad laws get changed. Yeah, absolutely, and that's
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the wrong one of the things that
the Supreme Court does, yeah, is
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challenge precedent that is set by these
district courts or whatever. Right, right,
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hey, come up to them through
these different areas. So I didn't
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know a lot about this as as
I'm learning more about it. But but
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so, what about precedents in challenging
Rov Wade and and most people like I
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believed that decisions of the Supreme Court
could, could not be reverse? But
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they are. They're often reversed.
Look at slave very yeah, and and
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the ights of of African Americans.
Now. So it's the it's actually just
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like you said, it's the courts
duty, yeah, to reverse wrongfull prior
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decisions. Yeah, yeah, it's
not the courts duty to make new law,
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but it is their decision to look
at what is the law of the
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land. Yeah, and if it's
raw or or past decisions, and if
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they're wrong, they decided to correct
that. Yeah. No, one of
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the things that has to be considered. When commentator, political pundent guy said,
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when you're talking about and this is
in no way a plug for Donald
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Trump, and in no way am
I saying you don't know God if you
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don't vote for him, but what
I am saying is when you vote for
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a president, we have to think
of it in terms of your voting for
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a worldview. Right, when you're
voting, if you vote for Donald Trump,
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you're voting for a worldview, whether
you like it or not. You
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are, if you vote for Joe
Biden. You might like the guy,
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you might not, but in reality
you're voting for a worldview and it what
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comes with that, which is the
way the constitution was designed, is when
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you're voting for trump's worldview, he's
going to nominate judges that are in line
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with that worldview. Now you again. We can debate whether or not trump
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has changed his worldview over the years. He used to be a pro abortion
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Democrat for a long time, and
I think that's undisputable. But it does
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seem that at least maybe it's the
pender de voters. Probably is that.
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He's maybe a part, but he
certainly is the pro most pro life president
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we've ever had in his that his
actions have children, that he is supportive
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of the pro life agenda. Yeah, and so he certainly has been more
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vocal and more willing to nominate justice
has that would be in line with the
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stance that would protect unborn children.
And I say all that to say when
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you vote for someone like Donald Trump, someone who would elect or not elect
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but would nominate justice, is your
vote for a worldview. And these justices
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are lifetime appointees. Once they're there, there there for lifetime. So you're
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looking at if you're voting for a
guy who's going to elect or nominate conservative
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justice, is you're voting for somebody. It's going to put people that are
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going to be in that position of
power and holding that Conservative, conservative stance
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for a long time. Right,
right, that's that's a good thing.
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YEA, as we need some kind
of I mean, listen, that the
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whole Congress could could shift, yeah, to be a bunch of leftist socialist.
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The executive branch could be given over
to leftist socialist but if we've got
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a supreme court, that's going to
hold back the tide of that garbage and
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that's at least going to keep us
for a little while as a nation from
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becoming fullblown communist Socialist, communist Socialist
Nation. And truly that's the beauty and
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the genius of what our forefathers did
and how they set up, I.
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The way our country would be run
in the branches of government to be checks
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and balances on each other. So
okay. So if overturned, then is
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abortion abolished? I just want to
say I just heard in a podcast,
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or maybe it was on the news, Biden said that if that happened he
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would bring a bill to Congress to
legalize abortion national so he's talking about yeah,
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federal turned. He's already he's ready
to pass federal law. That will
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that will be what Roady Wade was
as the Supreme Court decision. He would
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turn it into federal law. That's
it. That he has said he would
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do that. So it's over too. What happened? I mean I think
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I answered that question that the very
beginning. WILL ABORTION BE ABOLISHED? If
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rovy Wade is overturned. NOPE,
yeah, it'll go back to the states,
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and there's till there be states.
Yeah, that well, you're about
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to talk about that. Weell be
states that banned abortion. Would you say?
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Yeah, when he numbers two thousand
and twenty two are likely to be
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an abortion. Yeah, you guys
probably know what some of those states are.
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Probably listen to my I think South
Carolina would be one, Georgia would
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likely be one, Alabama would be
one of a lot of these states.
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Like Kentucky, they only have one
abortion clinic. I think maybe that now
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they have to. But Mississippi that
has one abortion clinic. Yeah, those
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that would likely be the case.
But abortion still would not be abolished completely
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in the United States of American and
you can believe for sure that there's going
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to be some venomous fights even in
these states that would abolish abortion. In
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who knows that acled you, the
American Communist Lawyers Union will get in there
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and do their thing. It's going
to be a vicious fight, no doubt
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about it. But I do think
this. We do need to overturn this
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thing. Rovywade needs to be rejected
as the lie of the land, because
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that's what it is and it's again
mostly to show the Lord that we're repenting
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and then these things could be mitigated
in the states. But I'll say this.
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I'll go as far to say,
and this is a point in which
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our pro abortion opposition, folks that
even online or out there on the sidewalk
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or whatever, that say, well, you know, if you abolish abortion,
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people are still going to have abortions. Yeah, I know that we
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do. People are still going to
sin it. I always will respond with
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well, we abolish slavery and people
still own slaves. We had just a
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few podcasts go we had the brother
from justice ministries talking about basically slavery.
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Right, sex trafficking and human trafficking
is slavery. It's what it is.
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It's buying and selling humans as property. Yeah, people still do that.
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Need's illegal. People are going to
have illegal abortions. That's true. Abortion
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ultimately is not going to be completely
abolished until the Lord Jesus comes through the
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clouds and establishes his kingdom on the
Earth. Right, that's the only time
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in which abortion will be abolished.
However, we as a we as human
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beings, but especially we as Christians, have a duty to uphold God's law
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and bring man's law to line up
with God's law. There's this mentality that
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somehow God's law needs to be lowered
and brought down to equal our standards.
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Know what's intended it, even with
our Constitution. I'm not saying all of
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our founding fathers were godly people.
There were some, certainly some ungodly people
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that, but they did recognize that
God's law should be the highest law,
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and God's Law is simple. Exodus, Chapter Twenty. You guys can read
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it. You should memorize the ten
commandments there. Next it is chapter twenty.
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The commandment number six is you shall
not murder. Yeah, and that's
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what abortion is. It's murder.
So our law needs to come up to
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where God's law is. Rather than
justifying the murder of unborn children, we
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need to agree with God and say
it's wrong and, as a nation,
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will repenting of it. That's right. Turning away from yeah, and again,
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as Christians it is our duty to
bring the Gospel to those who in
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need. Women go into abortion clinics
because they don't know the Lord. We
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need to bring the Gospel to them. So, while abortion is legal in
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these United States of America and they
are still abortion clinics. There's over seven
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hundred of them in the United States
of America currently. We need to be
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there. We need to be there
pleading on behalf of those unborn children,
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giving them a voice. Yeah,
and, in one sense, reinstating their
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humanity, though society has said they're
not human beings, they're not precious,
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they don't have value. We need
to be speaking the truth of God,
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in opposition to the lies of the
world, in the enemy that these human
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beings, these babies, do have
value and that they do deserve to be
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protect it. And we do that. You and I and others do that
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right there on the front line.
There's other ways to do it, certainly
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in conversations with people online, which
it would be coming from the pulpit more
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often, I think, coming not
all. That's, I think, a
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huge, huge, huge issue.
Absolutely, and so this is this is
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our duty as Christians. Yeah,
the the bodies of government have their job.
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Yeah, and the Bible tells us
God has established these bodies of government,
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whether you like it or not.
Yeah, this is God ordained what
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we have in the United States,
and the men will always pervert and twist
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let the let the bodies of government
do what they do. Elect people who
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are going to be in line with
your values. Again, those world views
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your work. You're electing a worldview, not just a person. Right,
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but it cannot stop there. If
it stops it, you just check in
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a box. If it stops it, you just go into the ballad box.
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Yeah, then that's not you doing
your Christian Dude. Your Christian duty
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is proverbs thirty one, verses eight
nine, open your mouth for the speechless,
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or Jesus Command, Love God and
love your neighbor. Right, we're
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supposed to do that. That's that's
our duty. So I'm going to just
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wrap this thing up with a few
scriptures. Okay, because we can go
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on and on about stuff we don't
know anything about, right, like judicial
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the judicial system. Maybe we've helped
you guys a little bit. But we're
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going to put this article out.
This is basically a compilation of other articles,
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right, it is. It's not
something I've really written. I've I've
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copied and pasted all of these major
areas and given the references so people can
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do further study on the ground.
So we'll copy paste, sure, copy
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and paste this into a word press
blog for our right, for our website,
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sidewalks for lifecom, and you guys
can check it out and they'll be
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links there to the the whole articles
that you draw from. Right. But
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in wrapping this thing up, let's
look at a few scriptures, okay,
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and Psalm one hundred and eighteen,
verse eight, is one that you have
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written down here within this this kind
of sniplet article here. Okay, so
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I want to read that because,
guys, we have to understand what are,
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what our angle should be as believers. Right, who should we put
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our trust in? That we put
our trust in man. Yeah, do
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we put our trust in the judicial
branch, in Amy Coney Barrett or Donald
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Trump? Wow, we're going to
be right pretty dissatisfied if we do that.
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Right. And so, Psalm one
hundred and eighteen, in verse eight,
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it is better to trust in the
Lord then to put confidence in man.
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It is better to verse nine.
Is Better to trust the Lord than
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to put confidence in princes. M
It's talking about rulers. Princes is synonymous
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with rulers, people in positions of
power. We should put our trust in
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the Lord. Our confidence has to
be in him. And I was the
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other day, praying just through the
potential for the election, the elections coming
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up November. The third got in
vote. I think it's your Christian Dud
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to do so. I'm not going
to tell you to vote for but,
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you know, vote your worldview,
of course. And I was thinking about
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this and praying through this and just
thinking, okay, how am I going
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to feel if Joe Biden wins?
Yeah, and I looked back, just
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in my heart, into my mind, thinking how did I feel when Barack
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Obama was elected? I was,
I was it almost like, you know,
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my football team loss. You Know
How some people like if they're football
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team loses, they have a bad
week, they have a bad money going
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right, deep depression. They going
to deep depression, but gonna feel like
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that. I'm going to feel and
I remember back when Barack Obama was elected,
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I didn't feel like that. I
wasn't discouraged in the least. Actually,
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I wasn't surprised. He was a
total leftist, you know, Looney
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Bird, and I really think brought
our country in our in a wrong direction.
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Yeah, but my confidence is not
in him. It wasn't in who's
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even running against him. Was it
John McCain or something? Like that.
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I don't even remember New Gingrich,
I don't remember, but one of that
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it was one of those guys.
Yeah, one of those losers. He
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wasn't going to do a whole lot
of wars. Anyway. I want to
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come Lea Sup but you know what
I'm saying. So, yeah, they're
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there. They weren't going to be
my security any rate. Right, and
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Donald Trump is not my security.
Right. So if Joe Biden becomes president,
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yeah, I could. Yeah,
I'll be a little disappointed. I'll
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be a little disappointed that we as
a nation could it make a better decision.
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But I'm also I'm looking at Donald
Trump, I'm thinking he's not the
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greatest guy in the world and honestly, our nation could be destroyed and any
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ruler should end up, any terrible
ruler could end up destroying our nation.
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But I think, I think the
fact is, whether Joe Biden is president
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or Donald Trump's president, somebody is
going to be burning something. Yeah,
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somebody's going to be looting riots and
yeah, yeah, it's going to be
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it's going to be rough either way. So what I'm saying is my confidence
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is in the Lord, whether Joe
Biden is president or not. Whether Donald
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Trump is president or not, I'm
not going to be discouraged because I know
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that Jesus Christ is still on His
throne. Jesus Christ is still the Lord
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of all of creation. If we
know that and we truly possessed that in
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our soul, we understand, believe
and trust that, we are able to
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impart that to others, and I
think that it's our duty to bring that
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confidence and trust to others. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Another scripture
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here in Psalms. Psalms are so
one, times are so good. Yeah,
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Psalm one hundred and eight and verse
twelve, give US help from trouble,
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for the help of man is useless. MMM, through God we will
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do valiently, valiantly, for it
is he who shall tread upon our enemies.
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So leave it up to God.
Right, gave it up to the
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war. Right. You know,
our enemies are not the Democrats, and
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some sense they are right. Their
enemies of this country, in it this
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this Constitution, Republic that we live
in. But ultimately our enemies as a
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believers, are spiritual and it's the
Lord that's going to handle that stuff.
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We just have a duty to obey
the Lord, to be a voice for
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these babies, to proclaim the Gospel
and all that other stuff, overturning rovy
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Wade, abolishing abortion, all the
other political stuff that can take place.
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We got to do our best to
do what we can, vote for people
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that are in line with our worldview. But trust the Lord, yeah,
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right, so, and speak his
truth. Yeah, that's so. The
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reality is this. We have to
be faithful, to proclaim the Gospel,
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no matter who's in power, no
matter how the Supreme Court is, no
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matter if the Supreme Court is a
left of Supreme Court or a conservative Supreme
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Court. We have a duty to
proclaim the gospel. And then just bringing
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up the rear here with Mica,
Chapter Seven and in Verse Five. Okay,
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do not trust in a friend,
do not put your confidence, and
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that's the key word, in a
companion. Okay, guard the doors of
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your mouth from her who lies in
your bosom, for son dishonors father,
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and daughter rises against mother, daughter
in law against her mother in law,
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and a man's enemies are the men
of his own household. Therefore, I
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will look to the Lord. This
is this is the key here. I
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will look to the Lord and I
will wait for the God of my salvation.
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My God will hear me. And
the point of this is, yes,
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there's chaos and there's going to be
chaos in this nation and no matter
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what happens with a Supreme Court,
no matter what happens with the election,
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there's going to be a lot of
chaos in our nation. Daughter in law
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against Darl I just had a new
volunteer come out today whose son is actually
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going to be marrying a pro a
pro choice person and she's not terribly happy
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with that. Yeah, he's obviously
making a bad decision there, but there's
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there's some contention there with her potential
daughter in law and it's going to be
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and it's like that. I'm hearing
a lot of these stories, just people
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within their families fighting over the issue
of life and pro choice, prolife,
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but other political issues of Blm stuff
and all of that. Just a lot
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of infighting and families. It seems
like it's ramped up even more and more
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and were and we try to find
our confidence, like let's go talk to
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that, maybe they can tell us
what we need to hear, or let's
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go talk to them, and this
is these verses are saying to do that.
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Yeah, exactly, useless. Yeah, again, therefore, I will
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look to the Lord. Yeah,
I will wait for the Lord of myselfation.
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Right, my God will hear me. Yeah. So, as believers
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in Jesus, our confidence has to
be in him, not in the Supreme
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Court, not in whatever other entity
that we want to look to, and
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our obedience in our legions has to
be to the Lord. So I want
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to encourage you guys with that.
Be Faithful. Don't put confidence in the
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flesh, don't put confidence in the
Supreme Court. Do what you need to
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do as far as your duty and
voting and praying. Certainly we need to
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be praying for our nation. Our
pastor has encouraged us to pray every day
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at fourteen and in line with second
chronicle fourteen, if my people, which
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are called by name, my name, will humble themselves and pray and turn
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from their wicked ways, she'd have
to be awake at seven fourteen. Yep,
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fourteen in the morning, and so
I have alarm set. So I
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just want to encourage you guys.
Maybe you set your alarm s fourteen.
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He said pray a minute for our
nation, that the heart of this nation
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would turn back to the Lord,
and part of that again is overturning this
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rovyweight decision. But there's a lot
of other things that, as a nation,
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we need to turn back to the
Lord in. Yeah, so be
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praying for a nation, but put
your confidence in the Lord. If you
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want to reach out to me,
it's deep parks. It cities for lifecom.
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She's V Cassie Orge, cities for
lifecom. So We'd love to hear
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from you, guys that. We'd
love to hear how this podcast was a
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blessing to you guys and encouragement to
you guys. Maybe you have some things
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that you could share along these lines. It would help us. We'd certainly
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love to hear from you, but
until next time, God bless give me
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out love for love, give me
our love for gratitude. I know it
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will cost me my life. Nothing's
too precious. And some you