When Roe V. Wade Is Overturned

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.919 The reality is, if Rov waite is ever turned, the battle is still 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.679 on. It is that age old battle between light and darkness, between life 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:11.279 and death, is still on. Right and we, as believers in Jesus, 4 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.240 need uphold the standard of God's Word Proclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.120 change, no matter what the laws say. If the Laws Change, the 6 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.920 Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, still the power of God to salvation and it's 7 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.280 still our charge as the church to shine the light of the Gospel wherever we 8 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:31.079 are. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s 9 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:36.920 and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome 10 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.320 to the Gospel Center Prey Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.200 and challenge you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the 12 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:57.560 Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use 13 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.719 Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, 14 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.280 joining us and as we encourage you, guys always, please leave us a 15 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.120 review on this podcast. Wherever you receive this podcast, where if you listen 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.680 to it, apple podcast or Google podcast or spotify. 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My name 25 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.359 is Daniel Parks and I served as the West Coast Regional Shepherd for love life, 26 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.280 so oversee all of our efforts on the west coast, and Vicki, 27 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:08.439 cassie Org is our sidewalk training director now for love life, so she's involved 28 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:13.719 in training a lot of folks to do sidewalk ministry, involved in actually putting 29 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:21.520 together right now a sidewalk playbook, a sidewalk out reach playbook with some really 30 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.240 key things that you need to know for sidewalk out reach. That will be 31 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:31.319 available to all of our love life cities once that thing is created. And 32 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:37.039 maybe if you give us enough money, if you pay us in lash lots. 33 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.080 Yes, will send it to you. If you're not part of love 34 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.840 life. Now, I'm just kidding. You won't do that. We can 35 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.800 hold that thing tightly. Yeah, but it will be a blessing and will 36 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.240 probably have maybe we will give public access to that sidewalk out and we'll have 37 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.520 to think about that, I mean, because it's good for anyone who's ministering 38 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.759 on the sidewalk. It's very general. Yeah, yeah, basics. Think 39 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.840 about that. Maybe we'll put that at on sidewalks for lifecom. Yeah, 40 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.960 so be on a lookout for that. And just to mention sidewalks for lifecom. 41 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.960 We haven't mentioned it in a while, but it's a training and equipping 42 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.240 website that we set up for anyone to take advantage of, whether you're part 43 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.919 of love life or not, and we put out equipping articles. About every 44 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.199 week we have an article that Vicky rights. We kind of put our heads 45 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.680 together a little a little bit about it, but Vicky does most of the 46 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.319 writing, or actually all of the writing. I do some brainstorming on the 47 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.120 articles, but we put the article. That sort of the framework for each 48 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.439 of these podcasts episodes out on that website. You can go under equipping articles 49 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:38.039 and take advantage of that, but without further ado. Is it a do 50 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.000 or to do? You know, I don't know. Yeah, well, 51 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.879 we'll figure that one out. Hopefully by the end of this episode we can 52 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:49.039 get right into our subject, which I think is a very timely subjects. 53 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.960 Matter of fact, we're probably actually a little late to the game then covering 54 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.439 the subject, and it's not necessarily directly associated with sidewalk out reach. Well, 55 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.000 I guess it kind of is. We're going to tie into sidewalk out 56 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.479 yeah, I think. I think it will be. Yeah, so it's 57 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:08.879 really the subject of if Rov Wade is in fact overturned. And who knows, 58 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:13.199 like when this episode drops, that decision may already be out. We 59 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.560 record these about a week in advance and so when this episode hits, hits 60 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:23.480 the podcast services, they may already have have given this decision. So hopefully 61 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:28.879 it'll be timely. Yeah, and and encouragement. So basically the question is, 62 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.279 what if movie wade is overturned, how's it going to affect us or 63 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.160 things going to change with what we're doing on the sidewalk right? So, 64 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.360 yeah, I don't know if you want to jump into a little bit of 65 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.120 intro. What you're thinking was on this article. Yeah, well, I 66 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.720 think first of all, probably everybody that's listening has heard about this. But 67 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.639 just to make sure everybody is on the same page about it, there was 68 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.959 a leaked draft, yeah, of the majority opinion of the Supreme Court, 69 00:04:56.040 --> 00:05:01.480 who are right now discussing whether to overturn Rov Wade, the landmark decision that 70 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.240 was handed down in one thousand nine hundred and seventy three. You know, 71 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:12.959 that made abortion legal. Isn't quite the right word, because because the Supreme 72 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.519 Court doesn't make laws right, right, but they said that nationally you could 73 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:23.160 have an abortion. Basically, they deemed that abortion was a woman's constitutional right 74 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:29.120 because of the right to privacy afforded in the fourteen amendment. I believe it 75 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.199 is. Ye, Ye. And so, yeah, we're going to be 76 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:38.040 talking about okay, what if that leaked draft is the majority opinion where that 77 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.120 is indicative of the overturning of rogue? Wait, if it holds, so 78 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.040 they can change, the draft can change and the final decision could be different. 79 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.319 But most experts are saying no, this looks like it. They know 80 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.480 it's authentic. The Supreme Court said it was authentic. The leak draft. 81 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:59.480 Yeah, I've actually read several pages of it and Super Boring. Of course 82 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.279 it's legalize, yea, but yeah, they would understand most of it. 83 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:08.839 Yeah, so. But but what would happen if the ruling took effect? 84 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.839 If, if, if it is handed down as final the same way that 85 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.720 it is in the draft, that it they have overturned Rov Wade, what 86 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.480 would happen? And I did read a couple of articles, I've listened to 87 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.279 several podcast about it. But if it, if it holds true, then 88 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.680 of course abortion could instantly become outlawed overnight in at least thirteen states, okay, 89 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.360 is what I read, and with the possibility of as many as twenty 90 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.399 six states. Yeah, and in the article we wrote, I don't know 91 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.279 if we want to read through who those states are known. People can think 92 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.240 advantage of the article. Can Look at the article. But the those thirteen 93 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.680 states have what are called trigger laws. Yeah, and so that's those are 94 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:57.839 laws that are triggered by or in the eventuality or in the case that it 95 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.480 is overturned, then those laws would go instantly into effect. They're triggered by 96 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:06.199 the decision by the Supreme Court. Yeah, and the so for those thirteen 97 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:13.399 states, they currently have abortion bands but they're not being you know, they're 98 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.759 not being followed at all because of Rov Wade. But as soon as Row 99 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:21.399 v Wade is overturned those thirteen states, then those state bands go into effect 100 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:26.600 and abortion would be illegal. Yeah, in those thirteen states. Yeah, 101 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.959 now I do want to mention Oklahoma in particular and if you've had recently about 102 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:34.480 Oklahoma, but they apparently did pass some legislation that made abortion illegal and it 103 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:39.199 hasn't been challenged because I think of this whole Rov Wade thing, and so 104 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:45.319 that law has has stood. In my understanding is currently there aren't any abortions 105 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.120 taken place in Oklahoma. All of the abortion centers are shut down. Now 106 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.560 there's obviously there's going to be some legal pushback. For sure, parenthood and 107 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.839 the other really rich pro abortion organizations are going to file some lawsuits and all 108 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.920 that stuff. Yeah, but I think there's so much that's unknown. There's 109 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.519 so much up in the air as far as this Supreme Court decision, the 110 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.519 overturning of rovway decision, that the states like Oklahoma that are passing laws that 111 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.560 are more strict. They're kind of getting away with it in a way that 112 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.800 they maybe wouldn't wouldn't have otherwise. Yeah. Yeah, and so there's the 113 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.199 potentially twenty six states that many news outlets are talking about. There's the thirteen 114 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.960 that they have the trigger laws and will, yeah, you know, essentially 115 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.240 ban abortions. But then the other thirteen states that they talked about. They 116 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.200 have not implemented trigger laws, but they indicate that they will proceed to ramp 117 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.919 up the efforts to either ban or severely limit abortion. And so, of 118 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.720 course, you know, the the socalled pro choice crowd is going bananas because 119 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.600 they're very worried that abortion is going to be severely limited. And the the 120 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.320 article full that, which I link with the article I wrote in Fortune, 121 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:11.399 reports that currently the average length of travel for to get get an abortion is 122 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.440 twenty five miles and that if what they think is going to happen with all 123 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.799 these states banning or limiting an abortion, it will become more like a hundred 124 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.519 twenty five miles. Yeah, and so one of the immediate effects, which 125 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.759 doesn't necessarily affect us on the sidewalk, but just nationwide, is that there 126 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:35.000 are corporations that are very pro abortion, like Amazon, I can't remember the 127 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.320 other. Apple Rode it down. Yeah, and they're they're actually already enacting, 128 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.720 not laws, but part of their company policy that, peep, they 129 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.960 will pay to reimburse people to travel to go get abortion. So it's setting 130 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:56.840 up this divide, sure, even in in terms of the corporations that maybe 131 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.279 we currently use. Yeah, for products that that you know, we may, 132 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.679 I don't know, it may come to a point where I really wanted 133 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.279 to your phone in your mouth. Now I know who you know that some 134 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.360 states, like California, for example, where I do a lot of ministry, 135 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.240 yet I ever see our teams there. California has essentially said, governor 136 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.840 newsome, that if a woman from outside of the State of California, in 137 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.320 a state that's made abortion illegal, if this happens, that California actually will 138 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.159 pay for their travel right to the state of California, will pay for their 139 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.440 abortion, pay for child care, pay for them a place to stay while 140 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.080 they're in California killing their child. So some states, and of course we 141 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.519 know what those states are, California, New York, Washington State, Oregon, 142 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:52.879 leftist states, Colorado, are positioning themselves to be abortion destinations. Yeah, 143 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.360 and that helps us to understand, at least from a sidewalk out reach 144 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.840 perspective, that there's going to be some of these states, if Rodweed is 145 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.080 a returned, that's going to likely see an increase in people coming to the 146 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.080 abortion clinic. Right, for sure, if you are on the border of 147 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:15.080 a state that has banned abortion. Yeah, then your state, if it 148 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:20.840 has not banned abortion, is that's the immediate likely scenario. I think that 149 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.279 probably for US in North Carolina. Yes, my take on the political atmosphere 150 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:31.279 here is if we do ultimately ban abortion after the overturning of Rov Wade, 151 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.480 it's going to take a while. Yeah, and I'm actually skeptical that it's 152 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.559 actually going to happen because we don't have the folks and I don't know all 153 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.200 the legislative dynamic, but I do know that we don't have enough folks that 154 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.600 would be on the side of life in the state legislature to wholesale make abortion 155 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.240 illegal. Right. So what's going to happen? At least in my estimation, 156 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.320 South Carolina does that abortion will become illegal there? Right? Georgia, 157 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.200 possibly, Alabama, yeah, Tennessee, possibly, saw all the states that 158 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.559 surround us are going to likely severely restrict or make abortion out right illegal. 159 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.679 So we're going to have to prepare ourselves for even more of an influx. 160 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.840 We already see a lot of people from South Carolina here anyway, in Georgia 161 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.879 and Tennessee yeah, and all over. I think we're going to see that 162 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.279 more and more. Yeah, so that kind of gives us just a heads 163 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.399 up. Hey, we need to we need to all the more be diligent 164 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.799 building teams, encouraging our teams to be out here on the sidewalk. Yeah, 165 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.360 and the same way in some of you other guys, some of your 166 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.679 states, like California. Again, now I don't say this, of course, 167 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.720 I want to speak in faith, and I would pray and pray for 168 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.799 the mercy of God over California that they would turn back to the Lord and 169 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.399 abortion we become illegal there. But for right now, dealing with reality, 170 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.279 there's going to likely be an influx of people coming to California if abortion is 171 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.159 made illegal. And so over these states near California, I think there's already 172 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.399 been because of the Texas stuff. There's already been an influx and people come 173 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.759 in the California for abortions. Yeah, so that's important for us to know. 174 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.399 It is that there's certainly on so many levels. Knowing that, you 175 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.440 know you're going to want to ramp up your volunteer pool if you can. 176 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:20.360 But I think also just thinking about the effect on your current volunteers seeing when 177 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.600 we see sixty, seventy women, which is rare it here in La true, 178 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.519 where where we minister, we normally see thirty to forty women a day. 179 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.879 Yeah, think about that double lane. That is going to take an 180 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:39.159 enormous emotional toll. Yeah, I think because it is hard. It's hard 181 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.600 to see that. So I think to be prepared for the trauma of seeing 182 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.279 so many people, yeah, said, knowing that so many more babies are 183 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.440 dying in front of your eyes. Yeah, and I would say even aside 184 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.480 from that, HMM, I want to encourage all of you guys to stay 185 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.559 connected each other. Yeah, stay connected. Have Prayer meetings. I know 186 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.360 some of our teams across the nation have regular prayer meetings where they and their 187 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:11.279 local team meets together. Sidewalk team in particular meets together to pray, hold 188 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.960 each other up in prayer. They have regular cond of contact with each other, 189 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.720 text messages, what'Sapp groups and things like that, where they encourage each 190 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.799 other. Let's just be diligent to do that. We have in this nation, 191 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.200 this atmosphere, this culture of death right in this atmosphere, at least 192 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.960 recently, because of Rov Wade and the potential overturning a rovy way, there's 193 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.559 a lot of hostilitia. Hostility is heightened, and so we need to be 194 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.600 praying for each other all the more and holding each other up in prayer, 195 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.600 encouraging each other with the word, with hey, brother, sister, you're 196 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.759 doing a fantastic job. God's using you. However, we can encourage you 197 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.159 to each other. We need to do that, and so, in light 198 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.440 of that, I do want to mention just something practically that we've shared with 199 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.879 all of our sidewalk teams and especially locally, but even nationally. We've put 200 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.919 this out there. is like, guys, because of the potential overturning of 201 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:07.080 Rovy Wade, the pro abortion side, like you said, they're mad, 202 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.080 they're high and mad, they're hopping mad are and because of that, when 203 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.360 you're out there on the sidewalk, you already get some opposition. You should 204 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.799 probably expect a little more opposition. In fact, I would even warn you 205 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.720 not to scare anyone on the side sidewalk. But I do think we need 206 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.759 to be prepared. I have seen an uptick in what I would consider threats 207 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:31.679 of violence. Yeah, and I really think we need to be careful because 208 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.600 the you know, the demons are riled down and the yeah, the socalled 209 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:43.000 pro choice group, is blaming us, right, and they they just are 210 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.000 increasingly hostile to and aggressive. Yeah, since, so that shouldn't make us 211 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.559 a fraid, right, we should. We don't walk in fear, walk 212 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.840 in faith. Yeah, don't let that intimidation, because that's what they want 213 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.360 to do. They want to intimidate you and get you off the sidewalk. 214 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.080 Don't let don't let the enemy intimidate you. I mean the devil working through 215 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:07.399 people. Don't let him intimidate yeah, but let it make you more vigilant. 216 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.519 To you need to have a camera going on while you're out there and 217 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.960 have something recorded and thinks. I agree. Have a camera running, have 218 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.440 your phone ready to record if necessary. Yeah, yeah, and hold people 219 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:22.639 accountable. If people do directly threaten you with bodily harm, you need to 220 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.080 report it. They need to be reported to the authorities and the authorities may 221 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:32.200 or may not do anything, but either way it's documented and just be be 222 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.759 diligent to do that. Again, encourage your teams. Encourage your teams. 223 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.480 If you're not out there day after day and you're overseeing teams, make sure 224 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:44.279 they got a video camera going at all times, right and how you position 225 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.200 that video camera? You know, I think it's best to position it kind 226 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:49.759 of a way so it kind of gets a wide angle view of the whole 227 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.559 scenario, rather than having it on your body, because a lot of times 228 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.519 that only gets what's in front of you. It doesn't get what's behind you 229 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.480 and you can miss things that could happen. So again, not telling you 230 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:07.160 this out of fear, but just use wisdom and be preyed up as you're 231 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.240 going out to the sidewalk. Pray through the armor of God. Did A 232 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.519 podcast about that, yeah, a while back. And just pray through putting 233 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.480 on the armor of God, walking confidence, I believe, as the enemies 234 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.079 ramping up his opposition, God's ramping up what he's doing and God's we're seeing 235 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.519 baby say, we're seeing salvations on a regular basis. Had the abortions and 236 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.680 yeah, it's pretty amazing to be a part of what God's doing. Yeah, 237 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.359 it really is. One of the things that I think we're going to 238 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.519 all feel an increased pressure, which I think is good on one hand, 239 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:44.559 but we need to be careful. Is the political pressure, yeah, coming 240 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.680 from prolife groups, because local and state elections are going to have an increased 241 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.960 they met, they will matter more, yeah, in terms of whether our 242 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:00.519 state will then ultimately ban or severely limit abortion, hopefully ban. So I 243 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.079 think there's going to be a lot of pressure to be involved politically and we 244 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.960 did a podcast a few weeks ago, I think we've released it already, 245 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.559 that talked about how hard it is sometimes to to do it all. Yeah, 246 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.599 the enemy of the best is the great. That's right. So that 247 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.200 was that was when we talked about it, where I specifically talked about how 248 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:26.960 hard it is for me to be involved politically at any really at time consuming 249 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.480 level and do what I do on the sidewalk. I can't. Yeah, 250 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.279 but I think it all of us will need to be. We should be 251 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:38.759 voting, we should be finding out how people feel, how candidates feel about 252 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:44.519 abortion, because it is going to have a much more direct impact. Yes, 253 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.400 candidates now that as it moves from the national level to the state level. 254 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:53.799 Yeah, so I do want to mention for the states that we've already 255 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.079 taught, what about some of the states that are going to abortion is going 256 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.000 to remain in plays? Right, California, New York and other states. 257 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.000 You guys know what those states are. Yeah, we've already already talked about 258 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.759 just pre position your teams for an influx of people, right, and be 259 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.519 ready to minister all the more. Right, we've already talked about some of 260 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.480 the opposition that can come and all that stuff. But what about states that 261 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.039 abortion becomes illegal in, like what about Oklahoma? Yeah, when you're doing 262 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:29.759 sidewalk out reach in state like Oklahoma, or potentially in South Carolina or in 263 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.119 and Alabama or some of the states that have trigger laws in them, Idaho. 264 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.720 So we have a team in Idaho. So what is the Idaho team? 265 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.480 What are you guys going to do if the abortion centers in s job 266 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:47.200 have to go get another job? Right. What we know is, though, 267 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.759 even if abortion is made illegal, a couple of things. First is, 268 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.599 there's likely going to be exceptions that are allowed. Okay, so there's 269 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:03.279 likely almost always, which is unfortunate, but it's the political reality almost always 270 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.480 if they make abortion out right illegal, even Oklahoma there's exceptions for rape, 271 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.319 incest, the health of the mother. So abortions are still going to take 272 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:17.119 place legally. Actually, most of those are going to take place in hospitals, 273 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.119 right, and ministering at hospitals to people that are going in for abortions 274 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.039 is a very, very difficult thing to do because you don't know. I 275 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.920 mean you have ninety nine point nine percent of the people that are going in 276 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.279 for other things. Right. It could be really a maybe the Lord leads 277 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.880 you in that direction, but there's some other ways that you can position yourself. 278 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.119 But I think the most important thing that our teams can be doing and 279 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:44.279 others can be doing is because women are still going to have unplanned pregnancies right, 280 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.480 women are still going to be seeking out abortions in other states and things 281 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:53.640 like that. So really connecting with churches, really getting the Church positioned in 282 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.200 as much as it depends on you. Obviously depends on the pastors and leadership, 283 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.480 but as much as we can as a ministry to help churches get positioned 284 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:06.359 to receive these MOMS that would otherwise we would have encountered at the abortion center. 285 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.200 Ultimately, that's the vision. Who want to see men and women start 286 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.799 running to the abortion centers and start running to the local churches right. So 287 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.759 getting pastures aware of the need that there are women that are going to have 288 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.279 unplanned pregnancies, even if abortion is illegal, and we need to have our 289 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.680 arms wide open for these women to come into our congregation, to come in 290 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.759 and be surrounded by the love and the help of the local church. We 291 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.680 need to be ready to give baby items to them, we need to be 292 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.519 ready to disciple them. We already have things in place, our mentor program. 293 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.440 That thing still is going to be in place in states where abortion is 294 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.680 illegal. Women are still going to need to be mentored and someone to walk 295 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.519 with them through their pregnancy. Yeah, we have what we call house of 296 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.480 refuge churches. These are churches in cities where we do exist, and even 297 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:49.640 cities where we don't exist, that have raised their hand and say we are 298 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.640 going to be a house of refuge for a mom that finds ourselves in a 299 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.079 crisis pregnancy situation. We're not going to condemn her, we're not going to 300 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.440 gossip about her, we're not going to justify the sin that maybe got her 301 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.039 pregnant, but it's not sin to be pregnant and if you find yourself in 302 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.079 an unplanned pregnancy, you can come to us. These are basically churches that 303 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.599 have said that you can come to us and we will help you and we 304 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:12.240 will stand with you. Right. So we need to work on getting more 305 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:18.759 of these house of refuge churches in plays so that these women can see this 306 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:21.599 is a church that I can go to, this is these are people that 307 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.680 I can trust. Right. So that's a couple of things that I think 308 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:30.119 we can be doing. Also, I would say, helping support our our 309 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.759 pregnancy centers. The pregnancy centers are going to still be open again. Women 310 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.599 are still going to find themselves an unplanned pregnancy situations and though plan parenthood might 311 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.279 be shut down because they can't do abortions, or at least that portion of 312 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.920 their business, which is the main money maker for plan parenthood, is going 313 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.200 to shut down, people are still going to again be going to plan parenthood 314 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.319 for services. We don't need to. They don't need to be going there, 315 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.279 right. They need to become to the pregnancy resources. Yeah, and 316 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.400 I imagine a pregnancy resource centers there. They will see an influx of clients 317 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:12.960 as well. Yet that they become the sanctuary for the unplanned pregnancies and in 318 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.359 the same way that California becomes as sanctuary for abortions, will the pregnancy resource 319 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.119 centers can become a sanctuary for women who are seeking who can't get an abortion 320 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.119 and are overwhelmed? Yes, so, yeah, absolutely, there's a there 321 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.680 will be a role for us, no matter what. I would love to 322 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.279 be out of work that or she would, but it's it is not the 323 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.480 end of abortion. And in fact, even in the states where they will 324 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:45.079 outlaw abortion, I just heard like in the Virginia of Virginia prosecutor, I 325 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.799 can't remember his name, but he has already said he will not prosecute the 326 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.680 crime. They if it becomes a crime, he won't prosecute right the crime 327 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:57.119 of abortion. And so there are. He's one of many, you know, 328 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.880 that that are saying we're not going to prosecute it, we don't care 329 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.720 what the laws yeah, where we're not going to probate. Yea. So 330 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.720 the reality is, if Rov Wade is a returned, the battle is still 331 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.440 on. It is that age old battle between light and darkness, between life 332 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.000 and death, is still on right and we, as believers in Jesus, 333 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.000 need to uphold the standard of God's Word Proclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't 334 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.880 change, no matter what the laws say. If the Laws Change, the 335 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.680 Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, still the power of God to salvation and it's 336 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.039 still our charge as the church to shine the light of the Gospel wherever we 337 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.480 are right. So we hope that this was an encouragement. Do you guys? 338 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.680 We hope that this may be answered some of your questions. Maybe you 339 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.920 have further thoughts about this subject, about when Rov Wade is overturned. We'd 340 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.200 love to hear from you. Can reach out to me, Daniel a love 341 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.759 life dot org. You reach her, Vicki, with a why at Love 342 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.279 Life Dot Org. We love to hear from you, but until next time, 343 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.680 God bless God bless you all.