What To Say To Those Leaving The Clinic

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:06.200 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:12.230 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel 3 00:00:12.230 --> 00:00:17.789 Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you 4 00:00:17.910 --> 00:00:22.059 in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 5 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:35.770 I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome to 6 00:00:35.890 --> 00:00:41.450 the Gospel centered pro life podcast. We're here with Daniel Parks, who is 7 00:00:41.689 --> 00:00:48.810 on the left coast and surviving. Right Dan, I'm surviving and slightly thriving. 8 00:00:49.649 --> 00:00:53.000 Slightly thriving lightly, not as much as he would if he was here, 9 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.880 and he never said any small and stuff like that makes it hard to 10 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.759 thrive here. Smog and the aggain of the land of fruits and nuts or 11 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.549 the fruit fruit cakes and no jobs that are out here. And I actually 12 00:01:03.549 --> 00:01:07.510 I'm in a good area. It's a nice weather. Gosh, it's pretty 13 00:01:07.510 --> 00:01:11.030 amazing and we've gone to the beach couple times. It's been a blessing. 14 00:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.469 The People here who are love life people are awesome people. Blessing getting to 15 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:22.420 serve alongside them and so and I've also gotten a head the pleasure. It's 16 00:01:22.459 --> 00:01:26.060 not really a pleasure, but the experience of visiting a lot of the abortion 17 00:01:26.180 --> 00:01:32.140 centers around here and was seeing kind of what other people are doing and getting 18 00:01:32.140 --> 00:01:34.569 to see obviously the devil's doing some stuff, destroying the lots of babies, 19 00:01:34.609 --> 00:01:38.450 but also getting to see some really cool things that the Lord is doing. 20 00:01:38.170 --> 00:01:42.810 Just a real quick testimony. Some weeks ago, about two weeks ago, 21 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:47.560 we're in a another city, not where I'm at, but another city north 22 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.920 of where I am, and we were praying, had some pastors out there, 23 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:53.840 some leaders out there, and we were praying and one of the things 24 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.200 we specifically was praying is that women would run out of that place. And 25 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.840 I don't know if I shared this on a previous podcast or not, but 26 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.750 it was just really cool to see a young lady, about thirty minutes after 27 00:02:04.790 --> 00:02:07.710 that, run out of the abortion clinic and she apparently got a glimpse of 28 00:02:07.750 --> 00:02:13.150 her baby on the ultrasound saw her baby's little feet at ten weeks. WHO's 29 00:02:13.270 --> 00:02:16.060 life. And one of the guys that was out there actually she needed a 30 00:02:16.099 --> 00:02:19.620 job, was one of the reasons why she came to a boards because she's 31 00:02:19.620 --> 00:02:23.020 just got fired from her job, needed a job, and he basically volunteered 32 00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:27.620 to hire her on the spot. She just so happened to really be able 33 00:02:27.620 --> 00:02:30.689 to fill a position that he needed for his companies. It is really cool 34 00:02:30.810 --> 00:02:35.490 to seeing what the Lord's doing and I really energized to send the the people 35 00:02:35.569 --> 00:02:38.650 who have they're pretty brand new to that. She were saying out there. 36 00:02:38.689 --> 00:02:42.810 A lot of people are have never really been active on the sidewalks, so 37 00:02:44.169 --> 00:02:49.120 it's really exciting. Yeah, and so they need this podcast, yeah, 38 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.080 which we're what we're going to talk about today is just kind of a summary 39 00:02:54.120 --> 00:03:00.349 of the key things to say or to ask MOMS as they're leaving the abortion 40 00:03:00.469 --> 00:03:05.629 center, and we try to come up with every general scenario you're going to 41 00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:13.219 face so that you would have some idea of some good things to say as 42 00:03:13.659 --> 00:03:16.419 these different groups are leaving. Yeah, yeah, I want to say this 43 00:03:16.699 --> 00:03:21.659 to that, and we said it before. We said in the podcast about 44 00:03:21.659 --> 00:03:23.780 building your teams and stuff, that there's this tendency for us to kind of 45 00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:27.889 get in Chit Chat Mode. We're out there with people that we love, 46 00:03:28.050 --> 00:03:30.849 that we fellowship with, and that really can keep us from paying attention, 47 00:03:31.050 --> 00:03:37.050 paying attention from the women going in, but also from the women and the 48 00:03:37.129 --> 00:03:39.849 men coming out. Like we need to be very in tune, and this 49 00:03:39.969 --> 00:03:44.759 is really important, guys. We need to be very in tune with what's 50 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.960 going on at that abortion center. Again, death is taking place, life 51 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.439 and death scenaries are playing out before our eyes. So we should be in 52 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.520 tune. If we're going to Chit Chat, if we're going to talk. 53 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.509 I don't think it's like gross sand to be talking there and encouraging each other, 54 00:03:59.870 --> 00:04:04.110 as long as we're keeping the conversations, you know, not going way 55 00:04:04.229 --> 00:04:09.789 off track with the conversations, like talking about the braves one, the world 56 00:04:09.789 --> 00:04:14.580 series or whatever, or extended. It's really not the pace for extended conversations 57 00:04:14.620 --> 00:04:16.899 at all. Yeah, if you are going to have conversations, though, 58 00:04:16.899 --> 00:04:20.660 a lot of times I'd like to have my conversations standing side by side instead 59 00:04:20.699 --> 00:04:25.209 of face to face and still looking toward the abortion center, because there's things 60 00:04:25.290 --> 00:04:28.610 that happen that are going on there, people going in and out, that 61 00:04:28.730 --> 00:04:30.810 you'll notice. You'll pick up patterns. You know, I think you and 62 00:04:30.889 --> 00:04:35.569 I both we've kind of trained ourself to where I can probably be in a 63 00:04:35.810 --> 00:04:43.319 full end up theological conversation and when something happens I'm right tuned into it and 64 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.480 I shut that conversation off and I focus. If a MOM's walking out from 65 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.759 the abortion center to her car, I'm going to put that conversation on hole 66 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.000 for a second, I'm going to address her and then I can take that 67 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.389 conversation back up. Not Everybody, I'm because we've been out there for a 68 00:04:55.470 --> 00:04:58.509 long time when we kind of just I don't know, the Lord's giving us 69 00:04:58.550 --> 00:05:00.550 that gift, I guess, of being able to shift focus real quick and 70 00:05:00.589 --> 00:05:04.310 then shifts focus back. Not Everybody has that gift. So you can, 71 00:05:04.430 --> 00:05:08.379 you know, ask the Lord to help train you in that, but until 72 00:05:08.379 --> 00:05:12.300 that happens, really just need to make sure we're staying focused and, in 73 00:05:12.339 --> 00:05:15.620 particular, what we're talking about today, staying focused and being able to address 74 00:05:16.100 --> 00:05:19.339 the people that are coming out, whether they're, of course, walking out 75 00:05:19.379 --> 00:05:23.569 of the abortion center. In some scenarios, you guys that are in New 76 00:05:23.610 --> 00:05:27.209 York, that's the case right. They're not typically driving up, they're typically 77 00:05:28.089 --> 00:05:30.730 walking out directly out of the door onto the sidewalk and some of the other 78 00:05:30.810 --> 00:05:34.250 cities that's the same way as foot traffic rather than a lot of vehicular traffic. 79 00:05:34.290 --> 00:05:38.879 Corse at latrobe and the other abortion centers in Charlotte they're driving into a 80 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.399 parking lot there and so as they're driving out, these are some of the 81 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.000 things, either way when they're coming out of the abortion center, that we 82 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.269 think that are good to say. Yeah, and it is a really, 83 00:05:51.350 --> 00:05:56.230 really good beginning advice. Stand side by side, always be facing the door. 84 00:05:56.310 --> 00:05:59.550 That's one of the first things I train our new counselors. Always have 85 00:05:59.750 --> 00:06:02.670 your eyes on the door, unless you're specifically your team position is looking for 86 00:06:02.790 --> 00:06:06.019 cars coming down the road. Yeah, but for anyone that's supposed to be 87 00:06:06.100 --> 00:06:11.540 calling out to the women walking in or get another cars, you should always 88 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:15.100 be facing the door of the abortion center in the parking lot where the cars 89 00:06:15.139 --> 00:06:18.089 are parked. Yeah, as opposed to turning to speak to someone. I 90 00:06:18.290 --> 00:06:23.810 have seen people in conversation where they get really deep into conversation and turned towards 91 00:06:23.889 --> 00:06:27.089 each other and that's when they missed. So it's just a simple thing. 92 00:06:27.649 --> 00:06:30.649 If you're going to be in a conversation, that is great a by standard, 93 00:06:30.730 --> 00:06:32.839 just be side by side watching the door so that at any moment you 94 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.959 can break that conversation because you learn a lot. You can gather a lot 95 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:42.319 of a lot of clues about whether that woman has has had the pill, 96 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.629 surgical abortion. Maybe isn't even there for an abortion at all. What she 97 00:06:46.790 --> 00:06:49.389 was there for? You can pick up a lot. We can even overhear 98 00:06:49.470 --> 00:06:56.829 conversation sometimes. Yeah, absolutely. We overheard one couple days ago that it 99 00:06:57.029 --> 00:07:00.230 just looks suspicious and we thought it was sex, sex trafficking. Yeah, 100 00:07:00.269 --> 00:07:02.980 it was two guys in a girl, and then we overheard them talking about 101 00:07:02.980 --> 00:07:06.540 the girls sister was going to be picking her up. The Guy, one 102 00:07:06.579 --> 00:07:10.459 guy, had paid another guy a dropped her and it turned out, because 103 00:07:10.579 --> 00:07:13.339 we could hear the conversation, it was not what we had thought. Yeah. 104 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:15.329 So, yeah, so keep your eyes on the door or on the 105 00:07:15.370 --> 00:07:19.329 people that you're ministering to in the hopes of learning as much as you can 106 00:07:19.449 --> 00:07:23.449 and that'll guide you when they're leaving. Yeah, what, what to say 107 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:26.329 to them? Yeah, so it's just really focusing on what do we say 108 00:07:26.610 --> 00:07:30.439 when they're leaving? Yeah, as opposed to when they're when they're coming in 109 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.439 and one of the first things is asked, did you change your mind? 110 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:38.199 Yeah, that's just pulling out. Yeah, as they're pulling out, we 111 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.720 I mean I think our counselors in Charlotte that's you going to hear that every 112 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.910 time of a car pulls out and less. Of course there's this pattern where 113 00:07:45.910 --> 00:07:48.189 you can see there's there's a lot of times the dad or drop them mother 114 00:07:48.310 --> 00:07:51.629 off to have the abortion. He'll run up to McDonald's. Sometimes he'll be 115 00:07:51.709 --> 00:07:55.110 in and out, in and out, in and out. Obviously we're not 116 00:07:55.110 --> 00:07:57.750 going to we're not going to say that when we see a mom has gotten 117 00:07:57.910 --> 00:08:01.139 out or coming out of the abortion center, goes to her car and she's 118 00:08:01.180 --> 00:08:03.819 driving out, the dad's driving around or she's driving herself out, we're always 119 00:08:03.819 --> 00:08:07.220 going to ask whether she stops or not. Did you change your mind? 120 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:09.860 Sometimes you'll get like a thumbs up, sometimes you'll get them to stop and 121 00:08:09.899 --> 00:08:15.209 and sometimes you know they didn't change their mind, but they want to stop 122 00:08:15.370 --> 00:08:18.689 and whatever. Give you what for and how, and it just gives an 123 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:22.490 opportunity to say, you know, well, even if you didn't change your 124 00:08:22.529 --> 00:08:26.009 mind, we still have resources, we have information to help you with post 125 00:08:26.009 --> 00:08:30.480 abord of healing. So it just it can be open and it can be 126 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.960 an opening to the conversation for other things rather than just yeah, I did 127 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.960 change my mind. Okay. Well, if they did change their mind, 128 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.590 then obviously there's some there's some further steps and some for the things you want 129 00:08:41.629 --> 00:08:46.389 to share with them based on that. Right. But they is board because 130 00:08:46.389 --> 00:08:50.710 if they did change their mind, oftentimes they won't stop, they won't give 131 00:08:50.750 --> 00:08:54.549 any indication because they've been told not to, at least at the facility where 132 00:08:54.549 --> 00:08:56.940 we serve. That may not be true everywhere, though I think it is. 133 00:08:56.500 --> 00:09:00.460 They are told don't talk to they call US protester, don't talk to 134 00:09:00.539 --> 00:09:03.740 them. They lie, don't. And so, knowing that, if you 135 00:09:03.899 --> 00:09:07.659 say did you change their mind, they're more likely to stop and give some 136 00:09:07.860 --> 00:09:11.649 indication whether they did or didn't. And why is that important? There's a 137 00:09:11.889 --> 00:09:16.809 few reasons. One, you just said you you won't know what to offer 138 00:09:16.850 --> 00:09:18.809 them if you don't know whether they are post abord if now or whether they 139 00:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.360 now are in this terrible situation, but kept the baby and they need help 140 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.519 and they need resources. Right. So it's an important question. Yeah, 141 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.240 yeah, so if they say they did change their mind, one of the 142 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.559 next things I'm going to ask them. I'm not going to say you have 143 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.159 in this article. What change your mind? That's actually not going to be 144 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.669 my next question. If they say yes, I did change my mind, 145 00:09:41.990 --> 00:09:43.350 my next question is going to be okay. Well, how can we help 146 00:09:43.389 --> 00:09:46.350 you? Can we give you a baby shower? Can we get you connected 147 00:09:46.389 --> 00:09:50.110 with the mentor? Right, I might even ask if the mobilder sound units 148 00:09:50.149 --> 00:09:54.299 there, if I have a pregnancy center that's close by. Well, would 149 00:09:54.299 --> 00:09:56.500 you like to go to the pregnancy center? It's just down the road, 150 00:09:56.820 --> 00:10:00.539 because I know that that will serve to help and set her just yes, 151 00:10:00.580 --> 00:10:03.419 I changed my mind, and then leaving. That'll help get her connected, 152 00:10:03.580 --> 00:10:05.980 because she came for some reason. Right, there's some struggles going on. 153 00:10:07.169 --> 00:10:09.970 Those struggles are still going on, even if she changed her mind. We 154 00:10:11.049 --> 00:10:13.610 want to help alleviate those struggles. We want to help ultimately disciple her and 155 00:10:13.690 --> 00:10:18.809 lead her to the Lord. Right, and so trying to figure out what 156 00:10:18.929 --> 00:10:22.240 those needs are. Okay, you change your mind. Well, what can 157 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.879 we do to help you? That's going to be my next question and then 158 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.120 in the course of the conversation I will get into so what change your mind, 159 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.600 which is the next question that you have in this in this article and 160 00:10:35.870 --> 00:10:41.669 and hopefully in that when they are talking with you, you're able to tell 161 00:10:41.669 --> 00:10:43.470 them hate, you mind it. Pulling over and let me share. But 162 00:10:43.950 --> 00:10:48.230 what what we can do so you might have a long conversation. Arts our 163 00:10:48.309 --> 00:10:52.740 experience often times as they just want to leave and and you've got very limited 164 00:10:52.940 --> 00:10:56.779 time. So you definitely you know, and we have done podcast on all 165 00:10:56.820 --> 00:11:00.379 of these, I think in depth. We're kind of putting it all together 166 00:11:00.460 --> 00:11:03.370 now in a summary. Yeah, of when people leave. But if they 167 00:11:03.450 --> 00:11:07.769 did change their mind, you instantly do want to get them the literature with 168 00:11:07.889 --> 00:11:11.809 the numbers. Call your contact information and yeah, that's good, Daniels saying. 169 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:15.809 Then, how can we help you? That's an excellent follow up question 170 00:11:15.929 --> 00:11:18.759 to that. If I can kind of discern that they're in a hurry and 171 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.840 they just want to leave. Yeah, sometimes I will ask. I maybe 172 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.679 won't ask. What can we do to help you? I may say, 173 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.759 well, my numbers on the back of that literature or Vicky's number or you 174 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.470 know, somebody whoever's numbers on the back of that literature. If we can 175 00:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.830 help you with anything, please call us or text us. We want to 176 00:11:37.909 --> 00:11:39.870 help you. So I might say it like that and then they course they 177 00:11:39.909 --> 00:11:43.230 go on their way, but I do want to make sure like really, 178 00:11:43.269 --> 00:11:48.620 really important if they stop to get something in their hands and quite likely they 179 00:11:48.659 --> 00:11:52.379 already have something. Maybe they got to brochure when they went in, and 180 00:11:52.460 --> 00:11:56.139 so I might just remind the hey, that brochure that you got on the 181 00:11:56.179 --> 00:11:58.980 way and has a number on the back. Please call us as if we 182 00:11:58.100 --> 00:12:01.169 can help you with anything. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Now, 183 00:12:01.210 --> 00:12:03.929 if I can discern I will say sorry to note, you know, it's 184 00:12:03.970 --> 00:12:07.730 okay. Next so that if I can discern that they're willing to hang around 185 00:12:07.769 --> 00:12:11.970 and to talk and if they're in a vehicle, of course, of this 186 00:12:11.049 --> 00:12:15.450 is a vehicular traffic I'll ask him to pull over and, you know, 187 00:12:15.490 --> 00:12:18.879 again I may ask them to go on the mobile unit. But you know, 188 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.639 I want to try to really get I don't want to let it just 189 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.919 be yeah, I chose life and then leave. If I can help it, 190 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.240 all right, I want to get in two more depths, like what 191 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.870 the struggle is, what's going on, how we can help them again to 192 00:12:31.950 --> 00:12:35.710 get them connected to a mentor if we can do that, just to get 193 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:39.149 them connected it, because again they're going to go back into the same situation 194 00:12:39.309 --> 00:12:43.190 they came out of. The Devil's going to still try to be speaking the 195 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.620 same lies. Or if they chose life that day, I want to try 196 00:12:46.659 --> 00:12:48.340 to ensure that they're not going to choose to come back to the abortion the 197 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:52.740 next day because of the lies of the enemy. So I want to try 198 00:12:52.740 --> 00:12:56.379 to cultivate that relationship with her and with that that family that's come to that 199 00:12:56.460 --> 00:13:01.850 abortion center and if you're really lucky you can get their name and number. 200 00:13:01.009 --> 00:13:05.049 Not that I believe in luck. I think we have to be intentional about 201 00:13:05.049 --> 00:13:07.730 it, but if we can, the don't even ember, we should because 202 00:13:07.850 --> 00:13:13.559 it a text goes a long way. I just had a mom gosh, 203 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.919 I don't remember the specifics. All I remember is, Oh, okay, 204 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.200 it was on facebook, of all places, this mom from years ago. 205 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.399 She chose like years ago. I never knew this she she wrote she's a 206 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.309 facebook friend now because I've known her now for years and years and years, 207 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:33.629 and she wrote we were we had mentioned please pray for a mom who is 208 00:13:33.789 --> 00:13:39.710 in the Valley of decision. She chose life today, and this this mom, 209 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:45.980 my friend on facebook, said, well, you she'll be back tomorrow. 210 00:13:46.899 --> 00:13:52.379 You better stay in touch. And then one of my friends, one 211 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:56.129 of the council friends, said, Oh, she was a solid choice for 212 00:13:56.289 --> 00:14:01.809 life, and this this other mom from my facebook friend said, well, 213 00:14:01.809 --> 00:14:07.649 I thought I was too. And the next day I returned for an abortion 214 00:14:07.970 --> 00:14:13.799 and here's the kicker. On the way to the abortion center, Vicky sent 215 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.399 me a text and I turned around and went home. Yeah, I never 216 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.720 knew that. I never knew that, but man, how important that is. 217 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:26.389 Yes, stay in touch in the in those first few hours if they've 218 00:14:26.429 --> 00:14:31.509 changed their mind, if you can get their name and number, a text 219 00:14:31.149 --> 00:14:39.779 a few hours lay leader is so important. And the next day just reiterating 220 00:14:39.860 --> 00:14:46.820 a great Bible verse, the The sanctity of that life, the baby's development, 221 00:14:46.059 --> 00:14:52.539 something, because that for that woman, she remembered that as what turned 222 00:14:52.580 --> 00:14:54.649 her away. I never even knew she went back a second time. She 223 00:14:54.769 --> 00:15:00.889 never told me that. Yeah, yeah, so now the next thing then, 224 00:15:00.929 --> 00:15:05.889 if we get through all of that stuff, I will ask if I 225 00:15:05.049 --> 00:15:09.519 remember. I try to remember this, what changed your mind? Right, 226 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.799 and the reason I ask that is that is such valuable information for us go 227 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.000 moving forward in not only in how to minister to that mother, but to 228 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:26.629 know things that changed her mind might change someone else's mind. Right. Yeah, 229 00:15:26.669 --> 00:15:31.509 and and so it's important to let team members know what and especially it's 230 00:15:31.509 --> 00:15:39.340 an encouragement if there's something that was specifically said or that she saw that a 231 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.340 team member had done or said or assign they held her whatever. Let that 232 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:48.379 team member know. It is such an enormous encouragement. Yeah, for that, 233 00:15:48.500 --> 00:15:52.090 for that team member. So that's a really valuable question. Yeah, 234 00:15:52.129 --> 00:15:54.529 yeah, absolutely, and that's yeah, that'll kind of give you ammunition for 235 00:15:54.610 --> 00:15:58.850 the future. Like if there's a common thing that these women say help to 236 00:15:58.889 --> 00:16:03.009 change their mind he certainly want to use that, use that phrase or or 237 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:07.360 whatever to help change other women's minds, because many of these women come with 238 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:15.759 the same mindsets, different situations, some similar situations, but same mindsets, 239 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.669 fears, grip them selfishness, all the other things that calls us to sin, 240 00:16:21.549 --> 00:16:26.389 and to be able to combat that with certain points of truth is really 241 00:16:26.470 --> 00:16:30.870 powerful. You know, we just interviewed another mom for a video that we're 242 00:16:30.909 --> 00:16:34.700 going to be doing and she told me that and she was back several times 243 00:16:34.779 --> 00:16:38.940 to aboard. One of the Times what changed her mind was she was in 244 00:16:38.980 --> 00:16:44.340 the back room again, ready to have the abortion and she heard the words 245 00:16:44.740 --> 00:16:49.169 of a pastor over the microphone saying your baby is precious in the sight of 246 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.809 God, with the plan and a purpose. Please don't harm your child, 247 00:16:52.929 --> 00:16:56.730 and that was you, Daniel. Well, she heard you. So, 248 00:16:56.889 --> 00:17:02.720 so it's it's it's it's important for us to know that. Now we knew, 249 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.759 because this woman told us, what changed her mind. I know we're 250 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.160 heard in the back room and we know that that the word if we're on 251 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:11.920 a microphone at least in our facility. I know not everyone has that, 252 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.829 that wonderful opportunity, but we do. And if you do know that, 253 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:22.069 that those words, when that woman is at the she was ready to abhort, 254 00:17:22.589 --> 00:17:26.349 you know, on the table and she heard you. So what changed 255 00:17:26.349 --> 00:17:30.420 your mind? Really it really good question. Yeah, absolutely, and now, 256 00:17:32.059 --> 00:17:33.500 unfortunately, oh, go ahead. was there's something else on that? 257 00:17:33.579 --> 00:17:36.579 Well, I was just going to kind of go to the next point, 258 00:17:36.579 --> 00:17:40.900 which is, okay, do you take the abortion pill? I'm always as 259 00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:45.529 they're coming out and I have any inkling of suspicion that they may have taken 260 00:17:45.529 --> 00:17:49.650 the abortion pill, I'm always going to assume that they have. If they're, 261 00:17:49.970 --> 00:17:52.009 you know, if they're they are on an abortion day, at Plant 262 00:17:52.089 --> 00:17:57.210 parenthood or if they fit kind of that age demographic, you know, one 263 00:17:57.210 --> 00:18:02.000 Thousan eighteen to twenty five. I'm going to always say, if you've taken 264 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:07.079 the abortion pill, go to abortion pell reversalcom. So I'm likely not even 265 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.559 going to ask this question. I'm just going to assume that they have, 266 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.430 or I'm going to put that caveat. If if you've taken the abortion pill, 267 00:18:14.470 --> 00:18:18.150 go to abortion pill reversalcom. Now they stop and talk and I get 268 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:22.109 into a more in depth conversation. I will get into that. Did you 269 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:26.230 take the abortion pill? And then I'll write really heavy focus on the abortion 270 00:18:26.269 --> 00:18:29.019 pell reversal. I would really heavy focus. If they tell me, yes, 271 00:18:29.059 --> 00:18:30.980 I took the abortion pill, that I'll talk about, of course, 272 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.099 the risks that are involved with that. I'll talk about what's actually going to 273 00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:37.420 happen to the baby and then I'm going to talk, of course, about 274 00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:42.650 the abortion pell reversal. Yeah, yeah, and the conversation for me is 275 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:47.970 different if they say no and then I say, did you have a surgical 276 00:18:48.049 --> 00:18:52.450 abortion, because they may have been for some other reason. If you know, 277 00:18:53.170 --> 00:19:00.039 the first question is not always did you have the abortion? But so 278 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.480 they might be there for check up whatever, there might be other things, 279 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.559 but if they had a surgical abortion, I'm going to have a different discussion 280 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:10.349 with them then if they had the pill abortion with the exactly what you said 281 00:19:10.349 --> 00:19:14.029 that's exactly, I think, where everyone should focus on abortion pill reversal. 282 00:19:14.869 --> 00:19:18.589 I would probably not be sharing a lot of the gain. Yet the message 283 00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:23.339 of forgiveness, or I would talk about God's repentance and God's given you a 284 00:19:23.420 --> 00:19:29.660 second chance here, but with a surgical abortion. I do want to introduce 285 00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:33.539 the idea of repentance, but I do also want to introduce the idea of 286 00:19:33.619 --> 00:19:41.730 forgiveness. Yeah, I don't want someone leaving with an irreversible act that many 287 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:51.250 believe is going to condemn them to hell and with no opportunity of ever changing 288 00:19:51.369 --> 00:19:56.200 that outcome. So it's that is tricky because you don't want to give them 289 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:04.799 an easy grace, but I do think introducing the idea of repentance and forgiveness 290 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:10.150 is is if possible, if they give you that amount of time. Again, 291 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:12.670 we have literature we hand to them. If they say that, yeah, 292 00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:17.670 they had the surgical abortion, I'll ask how they feel about it. 293 00:20:17.869 --> 00:20:19.390 Oftentimes I'll say, Oh, I'm okay, I had to do it. 294 00:20:19.509 --> 00:20:22.980 I'm they'll say I'm good and that it's an opportunity to say. Well, 295 00:20:23.259 --> 00:20:30.460 honestly, it's not good. It's not good that that your innocent child died 296 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:37.410 today and and let me give you some some healing information, and will hand 297 00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:41.529 them our literature with person aboard of healing am and talk about that there is 298 00:20:41.769 --> 00:20:49.799 healing, but but that this was not a wonderful thing that they did write, 299 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.799 whatever words you use, it's it's not easy. It is not easy. 300 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.680 Yeah, I don't want to come down to harshly because I do want 301 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.630 them to look over that literature and know that healing is possible and forgiveness is 302 00:21:04.710 --> 00:21:11.829 possible. Yeah, yeah, so sometimes they say no, they weren't here 303 00:21:11.869 --> 00:21:15.750 for an abortion, and then that the next question as well. In Our 304 00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:18.380 facility, which is not a plan parenthood, and we are going to talk 305 00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:22.019 about what might be a question that you would ask if it was plan parenthood, 306 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:25.819 where they do many different things. Did you have a check up? 307 00:21:25.859 --> 00:21:30.059 Yeah, and if they say yes, then then we go in. I'll 308 00:21:30.099 --> 00:21:36.569 go into our are you feeling sad? How do you feel about the abortion? 309 00:21:37.329 --> 00:21:41.089 And by the time they're coming back for a checkup, sometimes remorse has 310 00:21:41.089 --> 00:21:45.369 begun to set in. And Yeah, that's an opportunity to say, you 311 00:21:45.450 --> 00:21:51.720 know, can I pray with you? We will provide a mentor, if 312 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:57.279 they're willing, that will walk them through the Lord, the Gospel and, 313 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.990 you know, finding healing and in Christ, as well as you know the 314 00:22:04.069 --> 00:22:08.470 healing healing resources, which they may not have gotten the first time they left, 315 00:22:08.509 --> 00:22:11.309 right. Yeah, of course. Yeah, quite likely they haven't. 316 00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:15.619 So you have they're coming back for a follow up appointment after having a surgical 317 00:22:15.660 --> 00:22:21.700 abortion or the abortion pill. It's good to ask and it's going to be 318 00:22:21.740 --> 00:22:25.500 able to minister to them based on that and to bring the truth of the 319 00:22:25.579 --> 00:22:29.500 Gospel to them. Yeah, yeah, if they say no to all those 320 00:22:29.500 --> 00:22:36.089 things and they're dressed up that we can surmise there probably there for a job. 321 00:22:36.410 --> 00:22:38.690 Yeah, they're probably there for a job really valuable. Yeah, I 322 00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:45.480 actually see the turnover rate for employees of abortion centers is pretty high, and 323 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.519 so it's actually pretty common to see people coming in for a job interview and 324 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.440 I don't know if maybe that's a podcast for another day to really talk about 325 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.119 what do you do for these these people that are coming for a job interview 326 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.349 the abortion center? Maybe it's not enough to cover in a whole episode. 327 00:23:00.950 --> 00:23:04.269 So just covered real quick. If we want to speak the truth, right, 328 00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:08.710 we want to warn them that what they'll be involved in will be taking 329 00:23:08.750 --> 00:23:11.269 the lives of babies. We don't need to hold back that truth. Like 330 00:23:11.349 --> 00:23:15.740 they're going to be involved in the murder of children, and this is salary 331 00:23:15.819 --> 00:23:18.619 will be paid by the blood of babies. I say that outright. That 332 00:23:18.660 --> 00:23:21.259 might be a little harsh, but I do say that, and I have 333 00:23:21.339 --> 00:23:25.460 found that people really respond to that sign, if their heart is at all 334 00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:27.730 inclined towards God, you respond to that. Yeah, because you've got to 335 00:23:27.809 --> 00:23:32.930 take away that overlay, that fig leaf of this is I'm just here to 336 00:23:33.009 --> 00:23:37.809 help women with their healthcare needs. No, you're not. They kill babies 337 00:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.329 inside of that place, even plan parenthood that does know they do other things 338 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.119 besides abortion. Still they're killing children. You're still a part of that, 339 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.519 even if you're even if you're working in the call center, you're still a 340 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.960 part of that. Your money that you're paid is still paid from abortions like 341 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.549 that. Is Plan parenthoods bread and butter, of course, any of these 342 00:23:57.589 --> 00:24:03.349 abortion centers. That's that's their biggest money maker. And so, yeah, 343 00:24:03.390 --> 00:24:06.549 reminding them if they are there for a job, which again, it's probably 344 00:24:06.950 --> 00:24:10.059 not on many of you guys radar like that some something you're going to ask 345 00:24:10.099 --> 00:24:12.259 somebodies are coming out with. If there's indications there, I think there can 346 00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:18.819 be conversations around that particular subject in that particular situation that can actually be redemptive 347 00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:22.140 for these people. Right, spen, very much sharing the trey much scrupill 348 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:26.130 set you free any contrast, to be any bondage to the abortion industry. 349 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:30.410 Yeah, it challenges their sense of Hey, I'm a I'm a wonderful follower 350 00:24:30.529 --> 00:24:34.170 of the Lord. If you're here to get a job an abortion center, 351 00:24:34.450 --> 00:24:40.119 you should probably be think that are you? Are you following God? Another 352 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.319 thing I hear a lot is it's just a job. Well, it's just 353 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:47.519 a job where babies pay your salary. The death of babies paciers salary. 354 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.359 That's not just a job right that? That's being complicit in in the murder 355 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.029 of innocent unborn people. Yeah, so there was this just happened just a 356 00:24:57.190 --> 00:25:02.829 couple of days ago where it's one of the abortion workers left. told us 357 00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.589 that she left and this was kind of funny. We asked her why, 358 00:25:06.670 --> 00:25:08.380 why did you leave? She quit that day, right in front of us. 359 00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:12.140 She came out. She had walked in there with a baby in a 360 00:25:12.380 --> 00:25:17.299 car seat. Yeah, and and as she left, the abortion center. 361 00:25:17.380 --> 00:25:19.420 We asked, we are calling out to her, we don't know who we 362 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:23.089 think she's a mom going into a board and she said I worked here, 363 00:25:23.289 --> 00:25:26.569 I just quit. And as she pulled out, I you know, I 364 00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:32.410 gave her literature, said we would help her find new work and because we 365 00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:33.970 do have a volunteer that can help with that, and I said what changed 366 00:25:34.049 --> 00:25:41.559 your mind? And and she said they don't respect babies in there. Yeah, 367 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.559 no, kidding. Didn't you know? Kidding. So let's move along 368 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.839 to the next couple of points we have here. So as they're pulling out, 369 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.190 as they're walking out of the abortion center and the the good thing is 370 00:25:52.269 --> 00:25:56.990 asked, are you a friend? Like if you ask them are you here 371 00:25:56.029 --> 00:26:00.470 from abortion? Of course she got to read the clues and stuff like that. 372 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:03.500 If you've watched the scenario where two ladies have come in together, one 373 00:26:03.539 --> 00:26:06.980 of them walks into the abortion center, the other stays out in the car 374 00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:10.180 and you got one of them pulling out, then you can ask them are 375 00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:12.859 you here with a friend, and that can kind of springboard into a conversation 376 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.339 about getting their friend out of that place. Right. So again you've got 377 00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:22.170 to be attentive, paying attention to what's going on. Especially you'll see a 378 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:25.609 lot of times the DADS. They'll bring a girlfriend in and then they'll be 379 00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:29.450 pulling out. That's an opportunity again to strike up a conversation with him and 380 00:26:29.609 --> 00:26:32.920 to challenge him encourage him to go back in there and get her out of 381 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.359 that place. Yeah, if they're not there for a friend, they might 382 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.200 be there selling supplies or services, and I will ask that. If they're 383 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:42.920 none of the above, that and if that, we did a podcast on 384 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:45.960 that. Again, it's very similar to if they're there for a job, 385 00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:52.910 do you really want your business to be involved with this business that kills kills 386 00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:56.349 babies. Yeah, now, a lot of people are from a plan parenthood 387 00:26:56.549 --> 00:27:00.349 that are going to be listening to this podcast and they they have unique challenges 388 00:27:00.509 --> 00:27:04.900 because the plan parenthood does some many other things. So it's harder, as 389 00:27:06.019 --> 00:27:08.819 they leave, what to ask them. We you can ask all these things, 390 00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:15.700 just prefacing it. If you were here for whatever, yeah, but 391 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:21.450 oftentimes they're there for the other services. Yeah, and you know whatever the 392 00:27:21.569 --> 00:27:26.130 other things that Plant parenthood does, besides kill babies and offering them low cost 393 00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:30.519 community alternatives is, I think, one of the most effective things that we 394 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.400 can do, as well as as talking about the Lord. And if they 395 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.119 are leave for do they really want to be involved in any way with a 396 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.559 facility? And now, matter how cheap it is for the other services, 397 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.279 like birth control, whatever, do you really want to be involved with me 398 00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:48.269 an organization that kills babies? Yeah, one of the conversations that I had 399 00:27:48.630 --> 00:27:55.269 recently with a woman at an abortion center who was not there for abortion, 400 00:27:56.109 --> 00:27:59.140 and I believe she was actually going in rather than coming out. But I 401 00:27:59.259 --> 00:28:03.700 think this still applies, because sometimes people are more inclined to stop on the 402 00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:07.299 way out than they are on the way in. And so this this lady 403 00:28:07.339 --> 00:28:11.380 stops and talks and she's there for birth control. And I've had situations where 404 00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:12.529 somebody stops and they're on the way out and they say, yeah, I 405 00:28:12.569 --> 00:28:15.970 was here for birth control. Not Always want to plant those seas at listen, 406 00:28:17.049 --> 00:28:18.890 there are other places. First I'll ask what do you what do you 407 00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:23.210 feel about abortion? And most of the time they're like, I don't agree 408 00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:26.160 with it, but you understand. You were just in a place that does 409 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.799 abortions, even though you don't agree with it. Still, would you want 410 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.400 to have any association with a place that kills children and then I'll give them. 411 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.960 Here's a place down the road that does everything plant parenthood does, but 412 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.880 they do it for free, because plant parent had charges for everything they do. 413 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.430 By the way, everything they do has a has a price tag associated 414 00:28:44.470 --> 00:28:48.269 with it. And so you really want to be associated with this place, 415 00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:52.390 and why would you want to be? And why wouldn't you go to these 416 00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.150 places? I'm planting those seats for the future. And actually had one young 417 00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:57.259 lady not long ago say, yeah, I'm never coming here again. I'm 418 00:28:57.259 --> 00:29:00.059 going to I'm going to take this list. So I'm going to I'll go 419 00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:03.380 to these other places this this one lady I talk to, though, she 420 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:07.259 was going in. She was saying, I'm here for birth control. I 421 00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.890 don't agree with abortion, but you know this is where I get my birth 422 00:29:11.930 --> 00:29:15.609 control, and so I kind of use a little bit of an analogy to 423 00:29:15.690 --> 00:29:18.609 take it out of because so many people think of abortion in this kind of 424 00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:25.200 ideal, ideological political realm that try to bring it a little closer to home 425 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.160 for her, because I was explaining here and you know they do abortions in 426 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.799 there, and she's like yeah, I know, but I don't agree with 427 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.920 that, but I'm not doing that. I said, well, how would 428 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.160 you feel if I told you they hold Ku Kuk Klan meetings inside of there 429 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.069 and then they do other things? You know, they have birth control and 430 00:29:40.269 --> 00:29:42.710 they do other things there, but they also hold Ku Klux Klan meetings in 431 00:29:42.750 --> 00:29:47.670 there and so their staunch racists. Would you still be willing to go in 432 00:29:47.750 --> 00:29:51.509 there? And she's like no, I don't think I would feel comfortable doing 433 00:29:51.549 --> 00:29:56.980 that. So what's worse? Racism or murder? ME, both are bad, 434 00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:00.619 we abhor both. We don't want to be associated with either one of 435 00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:04.220 those things. But murders far worse than racism, right, and yet you 436 00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:07.769 don't want to be associated with racism, but you do want to be associated 437 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:12.089 with murder. That that doesn't make sense to me. And unfortunately she still 438 00:30:12.089 --> 00:30:15.730 walked inside of that place, but I think it did cause her a little 439 00:30:15.730 --> 00:30:18.650 bit of a little bit of concern and thinking through, you could tell her 440 00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:22.920 wheels are spinning. So I can not be back the next time. I 441 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.480 would yes, you probably won't. Yeah. So yeah, again, like 442 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:33.000 with everything, we're planting seeds. We're trying to just help folks to understand 443 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.549 the truth about what's going on inside of that place. Whether they're coming in 444 00:30:36.710 --> 00:30:40.950 or they're going out, and I think to sort of wrap this podcast up 445 00:30:41.390 --> 00:30:45.349 and just end where we started. It is important because we're dealing with a 446 00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:51.579 life and death situation and because there's so many lies that that place perpetuates, 447 00:30:51.660 --> 00:30:56.619 that those abortion clinics plant, parenthood, FPA, a preferred woman's Cell Center, 448 00:30:56.660 --> 00:30:59.579 whatever. They so many lies that they perpetuate that we need to do 449 00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:03.779 everything we can to plant seeds of truth, when they're going in, of 450 00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:07.410 course, but also when they're going out. That requires US paying attention, 451 00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:12.609 it requires us being diligent, it requires us not growing weary and welldoing as 452 00:31:12.690 --> 00:31:17.250 the day progresses. You've been out there for two hours, you're going on 453 00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:22.279 your third hour being out there and you're you're kind of ready to go. 454 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.200 Don't lose hard, don't grow weary and welldoing. Finish well and your last 455 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.960 hour out there and as cars are coming out, engage with them as well, 456 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.509 because one of the things that I've said often times that we say these 457 00:31:34.630 --> 00:31:40.630 women need Jesus just as much coming out as they do going in, and 458 00:31:40.710 --> 00:31:42.109 so, if nothing else, we need to be reaching the women that are 459 00:31:42.150 --> 00:31:48.140 coming out who've had an abortion or who've taken the abortion pill and planting seeds 460 00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:52.099 of truth and watering the seeds, quite possibly that another councilor planted on the 461 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:55.940 way in, and so that's just an important thing. whope you guys are 462 00:31:55.980 --> 00:32:00.740 encouraged by this. Hope you were challenged by this podcast and, as always, 463 00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:04.569 would love for you to reach out to us with future episodes of suggestions 464 00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:07.170 for subjects that we can cover. We'd love to cover those subjects. Would 465 00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:12.450 love for you to reach out with questions that you have. Certainly would encourage 466 00:32:12.450 --> 00:32:15.160 you guys to be praying for us and just praying for the Ministry of love 467 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.720 life as it's sweeping across the nation, although there are, of course, 468 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.000 challenges that are going to come. The Devil's not going to let us just 469 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.720 pillage his territory without fighting back. So we're seeing some opposition. We know 470 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.829 that's how it is and I know you guys see that opposition on a regular 471 00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:32.349 basis as well. If you're out there on the sidewalks who know that we're 472 00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:36.150 praying for you. Please pray for us again. Please reach out to us. 473 00:32:36.150 --> 00:32:38.069 You can reach me Daniel Love Life Dot Org. Reach her, Vicky 474 00:32:38.230 --> 00:32:42.990 at love life don't work, but until next time. God bless God, 475 00:32:43.069 --> 00:32:53.900 bless y'all. Give me our love for love. Give me our love for 476 00:32:54.140 --> 00:33:07.289 gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. Nothing's too precious, 477 00:33:07.609 --> 00:33:07.930 and some you