What Planned Parenthood Says About US

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.639 They say that some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.240 and they might try to be nice, but they are giving false information, 3 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:17.280 some might be aggressive, they give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is 4 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.640 to shame or intimidate you. And sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic 5 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:29.079 escort. I Am Yours, I'm yours, I'm yours, and me, 6 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:35.600 Lord, I'm yours, I'm yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro 7 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:41.079 Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro 8 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.039 life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 9 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:59.520 I felt your passh touch your heart. Lord, use me. 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We just 24 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.280 did a podcast episode from a suggestion from a listener about dealing with babies that 25 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.040 have fetal abnormalities and how to answer those issues and that sort of things that 26 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.560 we'd love to hear from you guys. I'll give you guys our email addresses 27 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.960 at the end of this but let's jump into this episode. What are we 28 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.039 talking about, Vicky? We're talking about, it's kind of a fun one. 29 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:20.800 What planned parenthood is telling clients about us as sidewalk counselors, and I 30 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.680 do want to remind all of our listeners what we often say that when we're 31 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.520 on the sidewalk. We try to keep to the three main talking points. 32 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.479 What God says about the baby, resources and humanity of the baby, and 33 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:37.159 that is true and that is where the bulk of our discussion with the Women 34 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800 Um at the abortion center should center, on those three main areas. However, 35 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.000 they are being told lies by planned parenthood about us. They're being told 36 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.280 many things about us. This article was I found it. It is an 37 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:58.439 official document put up by planned parenthood and Um and it is called five ways 38 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.719 to help you deal with and tie abortion protesters. I read the whole article 39 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.479 and I think it is important sometimes for us as sidewalk counselors to counter some 40 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.479 of these main points, because the women are being told these things about us 41 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.840 and it really can prevent them from wanting to approach us. So I think 42 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.120 we need to expose the darkness, expose the lives. We are called Biblically 43 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.759 to do that. I wouldn't spend my whole time on the sidewalk doing this, 44 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.280 but I think if, if the spirit moves you, there are times 45 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.680 when when exposing the lives are about what they're saying and it's kind of a 46 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.479 natural thing anyway. If someone says, well, they told me not to 47 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.840 talk to you because of this. It's very natural for us to say, 48 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:45.280 well, they're actually lying to you because they know that we have information that 49 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.000 would dissuade you from having an abortion. Yeah, Um, so, yeah, 50 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.960 there's nothing wrong with engaging along these lines. You just don't want your 51 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.639 whole conversation to center around us against them sort of stuff. I also want 52 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.759 to mention too, that for a lot of people, planned parenthood is some 53 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.080 oonymous with abortion clinic. Right a plant parenthood, um is abortion clinic, 54 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.280 and we think of there's even when people talk about Latrobe, they talk about 55 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.919 going out to Plant parenthood. This latrobe abortion center is not a plant parenthood 56 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.360 and, as a matter of fact, some people don't know this. I've 57 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.560 mentioned this in other episodes. In California because that's where a lot of my 58 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:24.639 focus is. Actually, the F P, a organization family planning associates, 59 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.399 does more abortions in California Than Plant parenthood does. Um. So I'm saying 60 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:34.759 that because this is what Plant parenthood says, but this is what commonly every 61 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:40.399 abortion center, Plant parenthood is. It's the giant, it's the Goliath and 62 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.639 it really sets the tone for all the other abortion centers like they're. They're 63 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.839 the leader in the abortion industry movement, right. And so whether you're at 64 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.560 a plant parenthood or whether you're at an F P A, whether you add 65 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.800 a privately owned abortion center or whatever, these are common ways that they view 66 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.480 us and common things that they say to their clients that are coming in. 67 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.560 We knew that from conversations we've had. We've had with women and also conversations 68 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.120 we had with abortion workers. They quit. Here's the here's the things that 69 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.519 they tell us to tell the clients so they don't stop and talk with you 70 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.639 guys. Right, right. So it's it's quite long the article because what 71 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.920 I did when I when I wrote at the article talking about this article, 72 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:27.720 is I would actually cut and paste portions of the actual article by planned parenthood 73 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.759 and then I put right below each segment our response. So we're kind of 74 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.319 going to have fun with this. So so the Um well, the first 75 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.319 thing, and I'm not going to read the whole thing, I'm going to 76 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.680 pick some highlights from the first paragraph, is that the women are going to 77 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:49.040 face vocal protesters who don't believe in your right to sexual and reproductive health services 78 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:53.959 and education and they shouldn't be allowed to keep you from the health care you 79 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.920 need and deserve. So then we will. We can respond in many ways 80 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.120 to this. First of all, we're not protesters, right. We are 81 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.000 not protesters. Right. We're not out here to protest and, you know, 82 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.920 to pick it or whatever. Not that that's wrong. You guys. 83 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.560 If you've watched our trainings, you know that we talk about the contrast between 84 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.399 what we're doing and protesting. What we're doing is not protesting. We're out 85 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.639 there proclaiming the truth, throughout there, offering help and hope. We're reaching 86 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.879 out too. I mean, if we're protesting, then so was planned parenthood 87 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.079 right there protesting. I mean in their very article here they're protesting, Um, 88 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.319 the anti choice protesters, and counter protesting us just with this article, 89 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:39.079 supposedly. Um. I will say this, though, anti abortion, that 90 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:43.639 that's seen as like a pejorative against us or whatever. I'm perfectly okay with 91 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:48.839 being called ant I'm also okay with being called anti choice if the choice entails 92 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.879 killing another person. Right. I'm anti slavery. I'm anti choice as it 93 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.800 pertains to slavery. Right. I'm anti sex trafficking, I'm anti illegal drug 94 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.279 use. Right, I'm anti a lot of stuff and I'm okay with that. 95 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.720 We often say we want to be known for what we're for rather than 96 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.319 what we're against, and I get that. That's cool. I like to 97 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.519 be known what I'm for, but also I want to be known for what 98 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.000 I'm against. I'm against child pornography right, I'm against perversion. I'm against 99 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.120 those things and I'm cool with that. They want to say this is kind 100 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.240 of like this is a jab at us, but I don't I don't care 101 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.720 what they say. Yep, Yep, and so so we don't believe in 102 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.720 the right to sexual and reproductive health services. Do you think that's an accurate 103 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.480 statement? I mean, I mean in a sense, if you want to 104 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:41.519 call abortion sexual and reproductive health services, I'm against that. But of course 105 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.600 we know that abortion is not reproductive health. It's the very opposite. It's 106 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.040 it's it's counteracts reproduction right. And of course, this idea of sexual health 107 00:07:53.079 --> 00:08:00.199 services and education. Am I against the entity that makes money off of Um, 108 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.600 false information about sex and sexual activities that there they propagate in the school 109 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.519 systems, ultimately to get people to come to their centers and get birth control 110 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.000 and abortions from them. Yes, I'm against them educating anyone for anything, 111 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:20.199 the entity that makes literally billions of dollars off of abortions and and the the 112 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.160 pseudo healthcare stuff. Yeah, I'm against their education, but I'm not against 113 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:31.199 true education, true education about sex, about the consequences of sex outside of 114 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.919 marriage, right for that stuff. Yeah, yeah, okay. So, 115 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.559 uh so now you have it there. It's not reproductive health, Um, 116 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:46.840 and we we are against their definition of of reproductive health if it means killing 117 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.480 the baby. Yes, we, we agree with them. We are. 118 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.360 We are against that. Um, okay. So so they said then in 119 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.960 the article that there are no strangers to protesters. And listen, this is 120 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.120 a great line. They have plans in place to keep you safe and comfortable 121 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.840 both inside and outside of the building. So the safety of planned parenthood is 122 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.840 is being touted. So who is it not safe for? First of all, 123 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.320 let's just you know. It's not safe for the unborn. Babies are 124 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.200 safe for the unborn. Inside that building is not a safe place for the 125 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.200 unborn. But even the woman that, the week I wrote this article, 126 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.159 we saw, to the day I wrote this article, we saw two women 127 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:35.000 that had to be basically carried out of the abortion center, one that literally 128 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.519 fainted. She got to her car and fainted, passed out and they had 129 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.519 to carry her back in. And I mean I shouldn't laugh, I'm not 130 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.679 laughing at that. It's it's that ability of them calling this that they have 131 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.120 plans to keep the women safe. Yeah, and also that they mentioned here 132 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.799 they have security guards and or escorts on hand who are trained to protect you. 133 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.639 If you I've ever seen in the any of the activities of these quote 134 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.759 escorts, especially the ones here in Charlotte, but I've seen it across the 135 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:13.200 nation, of these quote again, air quote escorts, that they're protecting anyone. 136 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.480 I mean they're banging drums, cow bells, they're saying lewd things, 137 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.639 perverse things. Those people are not out there to protect the patients. They're 138 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.559 out there to stroke thrown egos. They're out there to cover up a lot, 139 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.639 a lot of times their own sin right. They're they're numbing their own 140 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.840 conscience to what they did in their past. Many of these people are post 141 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.200 aborted themselves. And listen, these people, these escorts, for the most 142 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.320 part, are not out there for the men and the women that they supposedly 143 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.679 serve. They're out there for themselves and for plant parentshood. To pretend that 144 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.399 these people are helpful is an absurdity. Yeah, trained, trained to do 145 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.519 what? Most of them are high school or Young, the young college kids 146 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.440 on summer break that think this is fun to see and they spend a lot 147 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.559 of time on Tiktok at that while they're standing there. It's it's it's absurd. 148 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.840 So the latrobe escorts out here do some training periodically. On Saturdays I'll 149 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.240 have a group of people out there and I always like to go up to 150 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:16.360 the group. They'll have them like in a circle and it is, like 151 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.399 you said, it's just a bunch of college students that are feeling you know, 152 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.879 they feel like their social justice waders right, whatever, and I just 153 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.519 got them to the group and said, whatever she's telling you, I'll save 154 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.279 you a lot of trouble. Just act like a jerk to us and your 155 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.360 train just just act like you've always wanted to act against the people that you 156 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.799 disagree with and you're good to go, fully trained. And then you know, 157 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.840 sadly, that is pretty accurate. Okay, let's move on to the 158 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.600 next one. Then it says here are five things to help you deal with 159 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:50.120 protests, protesters. So they're giving five pointers. Okay, so first of 160 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.559 all, know that the protesters are single minded and want to take away your 161 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.000 freedom. Yeah, yeah, so what we're out there doing? Yeah, 162 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.960 I mean I actually am single minded in the sense I'm okay with being single 163 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.840 minded. But who? What are we single minded about? Well, I 164 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.799 mean, first and foremost, I'm single minded about the fact that there's a 165 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.279 God that we're all accountable to. Right, we'll all stand before him and 166 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.440 give an account. So I'm single minded on that. Um. As far 167 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.840 as the idea, I mean the notion is that we're single minded, we're 168 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.799 just about the baby, that old kind of pro abortion mantra, that we 169 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:30.159 don't care, we're pro birth or whatever. This is absurd, like anything 170 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.600 else done. It's an absurd lie. We know that that's not true. 171 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.200 We're not just single minded as it pertains to the baby. We want what's 172 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.679 best for the mother and for the baby, and we know that what's best 173 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.879 for that mother is not that she kill her child. And as far as 174 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.320 taking away their freedom, I mean, do I want people to Um? 175 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.639 Don't want the freedom to kill other people taken away from certain individuals? Yes, 176 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.120 I do. Like you can turn this around a hundred, fifty years 177 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.879 ago. You know, these these UH anti slavery abolitionists, they want to 178 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.240 take away your freedom, and that's the same language that they use. They 179 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.399 want to take hey, you people in the south, you plantation owners, 180 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.320 you need people to work your fields. And these abolitionists, these people that 181 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.240 want to do away with slavery, they want to take away your freedom, 182 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.600 right, your freedom do to do what, to own other people as property. 183 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.440 Yeah, and that's I want to take that freedom away. They don't 184 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.159 end the phrase take away the freedom. Well, what freedom? Your freedom 185 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.320 to kill your own child. And yes, we agree with that. Statements 186 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.120 we do want to take and that's that's where the similarities are. When we 187 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.480 people poop poo the idea of pro abortion, people do poo poopoo the idea 188 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.320 of US equating slavery and abortion. Why do we do that? Is Because, 189 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.679 essentially, the premises the same. There are certain human beings that we 190 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.120 have the right to treat like property. You know what, what with your 191 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.200 property? What can you do? Well, you can sell it, you 192 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.519 can keep it, you can throw it away, you can do what you 193 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:07.360 want. It's your property right. That's what happened with American slavery. There 194 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.879 were your property. You can do whatever you want to with them, right. 195 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.320 No one can take that freedom away from you. In the same way 196 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.000 an unborn child with for that mother, it's her property, according to these 197 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.720 people, and she can do what she wants to. She has the freedom 198 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.200 to do what she wants to. We as a society have to stand for 199 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.639 human life as having an intrinsic value that you just can't buy and sell or 200 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.399 throw away human life. It has to be protected and valued. By the 201 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.720 way, they call this killing of an unborn child. They call it healthcare, 202 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.320 and I just think it's always wise to h to be sure to point 203 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.639 out healthcare is designed to save lives, not to murder them. Right. 204 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.960 So healthcare is just not a true statement. This is not this is not 205 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.360 healthcare. Okay. Then they go on to say don't engage. That's their 206 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.799 their number two tip for for the for the women coming. They say that 207 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.840 some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors and they might 208 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.919 try to be nice, but they are giving false information. Some might be 209 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:16.440 aggressive. They give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is to shame or 210 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.200 intimidate you, and sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic escorts. Yeah, 211 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.480 yeah, I mean whatever. I can't speak to what other people are 212 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.639 doing around the nation. Are they're aggressive people, people that are more aggressive 213 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.399 than what we would train folks to. Be sure that other people to use 214 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.399 bullhorns and signs and flyers featuring inaccurate depictions of abortion? I mean possibly, 215 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:45.960 but I've always I've put this off on our pro aborts. Here are people 216 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.440 who stand for abortion. You call it that, Um, and because they 217 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.200 said we give out inaccurate information as far as our brochures, so I've given 218 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.159 it to several of them. Police Circle in this brochure. Any of the 219 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.559 information that's in an act, that's in act curate, and then show me 220 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.879 what what is corresponding information that is accurate. And I've never had one take 221 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.960 me up on that. They've always just said things like you say abortion, 222 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.000 Um calls his breast cancer and there's kind of these these other things. It 223 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:15.679 really has nothing to do. Like our brochure doesn't even talk about that, 224 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.200 although in my opinion it could, but it does not. Right. Yeah, 225 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.679 we could certainly get into that and I would certainly be more than willing 226 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.679 to have a conversation, but they throw out these other things that are just 227 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.799 like. I mean, all they are is just rabbit trails on the facts. 228 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.399 I've given you a brochure. I've said take a pen to it and 229 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.440 show me what's inaccurate and I will change because I want to be accurate. 230 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.559 Right, we have a vested interest and being accurate, accurate, you can't 231 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.039 get away with giving false information anymore. Yeah, people can look at right 232 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.960 up. That's what I'll often say. Just look up any one of these 233 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.039 facts, and I have had some come back to me and say, Oh 234 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.039 my bad, you're right, brain waves are detectable at six weeks because they 235 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.200 couldn't believe it. The thing is, they don't believe it. They been 236 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.599 told lies by the people that surround them and they just accept as true what 237 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.000 they have never researched for themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so. 238 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:14.200 Um, we would never want to give out inaccurate informational purpose, but 239 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.359 if we're giving out inaccurate information, then please, plan parenthood. Tell me 240 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.319 what that information that we're giving out that's inaccurate is and we'll change it. 241 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.160 Yeah, yeah, and I would also like to point out that there are 242 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:33.480 people that are lying out there. They're usually the people who are supporting abortion. 243 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.559 One of the things I hear all the time from them as the mother's 244 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:42.400 approach in their cars or whatever. Don't talk to them. They have a 245 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.559 deadly disease. First of all, we're we're filled with contagion. They tell 246 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:51.279 them that. Then they tell them everything we say is a lie, that 247 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.279 we don't have a real nurse. We have a mobile ultrasound unit at at 248 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.599 our facility here with sent out by help monroal pregnancy center. They say that's 249 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.039 not a real medical clinic, we don't have a real nurse, we have 250 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.359 a fake nurse. So anyway. So they are lying. They are telling 251 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:15.480 lies about us and, Um, and we definitely need to to counteract that 252 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.960 and and and talk about who the real liar is. I mean, think 253 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.559 about it. Who is making money off of the situation? Exactly, not 254 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.599 us. We're not asking these women, and I actually will say that. 255 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.519 I'll say, listen, who stands to gain? I'm not asking you for 256 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.680 anything, I'm offering things to you for free. Is Plant Parent whood doing 257 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.559 that? Because we know this is a point really to help these women, 258 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.759 to see, we know that there's a price tag associated with everything plant parent 259 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.680 who does right, even the pregnancy tests and all the other things that they 260 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.680 do, there's some price tag that's associated with that. So who has a 261 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:59.319 vested interest in and getting you to go with them? More so than anyone 262 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:04.400 else, it's playing parenthood. They're making billions of dollars. We lose resources. 263 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:08.960 Gladly, we lose resources as women, you know, as we help 264 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.440 women, we are happy to help them and to use our resources to help 265 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.400 them, and that's the opposite of one and Plant parenthood is profiting off of 266 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:23.319 the death of baby. So the next one that they warn the people coming 267 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:33.359 to Plant parenthood know their tactics and beware tactics, because sometimes we try to 268 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.960 persuade them to visit their van. Our vans are mobile clinics, in again 269 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:44.319 in quotation marks, because mobile clinics, they think are fake Um and they 270 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:49.640 they'll claim to offer free ultrasounds, pregnancy, pregnancy tests and counseling. But 271 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:56.079 this article by Plant Parenthood says it's a roost. They are deliberately trying to 272 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:03.200 trick us into listening to disinformation and often religious propaganda, and that we don't 273 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.400 provide the full range of medical care, unlike plan parenthood. Okay, but 274 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:15.359 I mean parenthood. It is. It's so ludicrous. They they for example, 275 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.039 they do not provide mamograms. My my reading was not a single one 276 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:23.440 provides a single mammogram. Um, they do. They do, do manual 277 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:30.240 breast exams, but not a mammogram. They don't. They are mostly abortion, 278 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:37.720 birth control and now helping people to transition into another gender correct Um. 279 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:42.359 So anyway. Uh. So, while it is true we hate abortion, 280 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:47.519 we do not trick women, and I think we have to keep saying we 281 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.319 do not. I one of the first things I say. My name is 282 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.799 Vicky. I'm with Love Life, a ministry that is here to Um, 283 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.400 provide hope and help so that you don't need to feel that abortion is your 284 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:03.640 only choice. There's nothing fraudulent. There's no attempt to trick them into thinking 285 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.119 I am part of them. That's the last thing I would want to be 286 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.319 is a part of them. So Um, yeah, I mean we're we're 287 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.839 on a regular basis in every conversation, trying to contrast us with the abortion 288 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.480 center, not trying to pretend to be the abortion clinic. For sure. 289 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:26.799 Now are there organizations that do that stuff could be. Are there pregnancy centers 290 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.119 that pretend to be abortion centers and things like that? There certainly are, 291 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.480 Um, and I'm not going to get into the morality of that. But 292 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.680 that's not what we do and that's not, I don't know, any sidewall 293 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.200 counselor that pretends to be a part of Plant parenthood or or whatever they're trying 294 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:48.519 to uh say that we're um pretending to be. But this idea that they 295 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.119 don't offer the full range of stuff. I'm just gonna tell you, like 296 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.440 the pregnancy centers that I know, that I'm associated with offer far more stuff 297 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.559 than Plant parenthood does, affirming as opposed to life destroying. So it's different 298 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:08.519 stuff that is offered. But and if it's not offered through the pregnancy resource 299 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:14.759 center itself, they have a huge network of resources, as does our ministry, 300 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.359 so that that everything, every area that woman needs addressed is going to 301 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.640 be addressed. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think about help pregnancy center, 302 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.920 who's our partner here in Charlotte, amazing pregnancy center that has a prenatal 303 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.519 clinic connected to their pregnancy center that sees the women for free through all non 304 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.240 months of pregnancy like that's amazing and there are plenty of other places that do 305 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.359 that across the nation. Right and I don't want to ignore what they say 306 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.880 about that. We're going to force them into religion. I will tell you 307 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:52.279 right up front that would be blasphemous for us to force someone to claim Jesus 308 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:57.480 as Lord in order for them to receive services from us. We don't do 309 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:03.279 that. We are against any kind of forcing in any kind of spiritual decision. 310 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.599 But we are very upfront. The reason we do what we do is 311 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.440 because we love the Lord and and I am not ashamed of that at all. 312 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:17.440 It is what motivates not only us but many charitable organizations, because they 313 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:22.000 love the Lord. Okay, so the next one they say block them out. 314 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.599 They are. They are telling these parents as they drive in, block 315 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.599 those protesters out, and I love how they tell them to do it. 316 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.720 Summon your inner rock star and where sunglasses and a jacket or sweatshirt with the 317 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:40.200 hood pulled up to help avoid eye contact. And then they give several suggestions 318 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.240 about other ways that they can manage to Um, to be someone that Inter 319 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.880 rock star and avoid Um hearing what we have to say. So it's interesting 320 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:55.799 that the pro so called pro choice group, is giving some very significant instructions 321 00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.759 in how to limit the choice for life that they will not hear. The 322 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:06.160 first stuff is so invalid. If the information that we have is such misinformation, 323 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.119 why in the world would you want to shield people from it? You 324 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.200 could just reaffirm the fact that you're right and we're wrong by how ridiculous our 325 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:21.559 information yeah, and to that point, last week, maybe it was this 326 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.759 week, I kind of lose track of my days. A woman chose life 327 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.720 and the people who support abortion told her don't listen to them. They lie 328 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:36.480 and she and they said just pull in to the abortion center and the woman 329 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:41.359 told them to leave her alone that and she was still actually considering the abortion. 330 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.400 But when I asked her why she did that, she said because I 331 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.759 really hated the way they talked about you and to me and to you. 332 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.680 So I thought that was great that they could see the difference this woman who 333 00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.160 was still actually abortion minded, but but saw that difference, that who the 334 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:06.160 people that she really needed to block out was that sometimes you wonder, I 335 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:11.000 wonder, don't these people have self awareness? Do you know what I'm saying? 336 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.839 Like that's a that's a that's a grave issue, I think in our 337 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.240 modern society is that people don't have self awareness. It's it's kind of like 338 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.839 it is the funny analogy, but you ever watch like American idol or? 339 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.279 Yeah, ever, you ever been like in the first stages of it where 340 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:32.519 people are auditioning and he can't seeing it all. They think that they can 341 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.960 sing, they have had good friends, they have some good friends and they 342 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.759 don't really have self awareness. And so you wonder, Like Plan Parenthood, 343 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.720 these escorts, the way they come across. They're trying to legitimize, at 344 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:47.799 least that's what they say. They're trying to legitimize abortion as healthcare and the 345 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.400 abortion center as legitimate health care facility, and yet they're, you know, 346 00:25:52.680 --> 00:26:00.359 claiming cow bells or you know us. Yeah, it's like it's Surd Um. 347 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.839 Is it effective? Sometimes it's effective and getting people not to engage with 348 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.960 us, but it makes I'll tell you this, it's in the long run, 349 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.240 gonna come back and bite them for sure, and it has. Those 350 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:18.519 places like latrobe here and you know, Plant parenthood here, are marked in 351 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.640 these communities, these close knit communities like minority neighborhoods and minority communities. These 352 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:30.440 places are marked in those communities as as circuses as the houses. It is, 353 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.279 it is and I think the women aren't stopping, sometimes not because Plant 354 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:40.119 parenthood has warned them as much as they're terrified this circus going on. So 355 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:45.559 the next point that they've given that article get help from clinic escorts. I 356 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.200 if I were pulling in that place, they are the last people. Let's 357 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:55.200 go to the circus and let's get help from the clowns man. So they're 358 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.720 not going to help you. And and it says that they may use umbrellas 359 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:04.599 or are other things to shield you and to play music to help drown out 360 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.240 protesters voices. So they don't say what some of those other things are. 361 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.759 But many times in the past it has been pornography, blessed it over, 362 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:23.160 played over their vehicles, dancing in very suggestive ways, um using, like 363 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.519 you said, all kinds of crazy instruments. And so what they are shielding 364 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.200 the women from that that word shields you. What they are shielding the women 365 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:41.160 from Um is the legitimate choices of the of life, the truth of fetal 366 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.400 development, the truth of the effects of abortion, uh, the truth of 367 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.599 what God says about abortion and so many women who choose life. Tell me, 368 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.240 I heard what you all were saying and I knew it was right. 369 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.839 So we need to trust that. We need no matter how much shielding is 370 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:07.400 going on, from protecting these women from truth. We do have the truth. 371 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.359 Unfortunately, I think they know it. Yeah, yeah, they do 372 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.079 know, at least some of them do, and it's intimidating to them and 373 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:19.519 they have to come up with Um, so called counter tactics to counteract what 374 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.880 we're doing. Um, what you guys are doing on the sidewalk is important. 375 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:29.160 God's using it, the enemy sees it, and so, Um, 376 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.240 when I say the enemy, I mean the devil, but the devil works 377 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.440 through people often times, and so those who are being used by the enemy 378 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.599 are seeing that what you guys are doing is effective, and so they're writing 379 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.079 articles and trying to counteract as much as they can. But we know their 380 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.279 articles, their umbrellas, their pool horns or whatever they try to use are 381 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:55.519 not a match for the God that made the heavens and the earth. God. 382 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.319 Yes, don't forget the Bible says if God is full for us, 383 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.880 who can be against us? And if you've stepped your feet out on those 384 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.000 sidewalks and you've decided in faith you're gonna speak for those that can't speak for 385 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.519 themselves and you're gonna work on behalf of the unborn and you're gonna obey God 386 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.160 in this area of ministry. God is on your side. Doesn't matter what 387 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.880 planned parenthood or any other organization says, no matter what the pro abortion people 388 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.359 or the people that stand for abortion, however Vicky words it is Um doesn't 389 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.759 matter what they say or what they do, God is working on your behalf 390 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.000 and he's working through you on behalf of those unborn children, and so just 391 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.319 be faith in what he's called you to. Be encouraged and uh, we 392 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.279 hope that you guys were blessed by this episode. As I said at the 393 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.240 beginning, I will give you our email addresses if you have suggestions for other 394 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.480 episodes, anyways that we can encourage you. We'd love to encourage you guys. 395 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.039 You can reach out to me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. 396 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.839 You reach her, Vicky, with a why at Love Life Dot Org. 397 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.480 We'd love to hear from you. We'd love if you guys would leave us 398 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.920 a review, however you listen to this podcast. But until next time, 399 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:07.519 God bless God, bless you all. Give me our lift for love. 400 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:21.359 Give me our live for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. 401 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:30.920 Nothing's too precious. Since I met you, M