What Do You Do When An Ambulance Shows Up At the Abortion Center?

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:11.789 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel 3 00:00:11.830 --> 00:00:17.390 Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you 4 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.660 in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned, 5 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.340 I felt show Passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome back 6 00:00:35.420 --> 00:00:39.649 to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. Appreciate you, guys, listening and, 7 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.890 as always, would appreciate if you, guess, would share this podcast 8 00:00:42.929 --> 00:00:48.210 episode with your friends, with other people that you think would be encouraging equip 9 00:00:48.329 --> 00:00:51.159 by this podcast. And that's what this is all about. This is about 10 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.560 encouraging equipping people who are doing ministry at abortion centers on the sidewalk, just 11 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.119 sharing some of our experiences. Some of the things that have come across our 12 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.430 radar, come come across our desk, things that we subjects that we think 13 00:01:03.829 --> 00:01:07.790 would be a blessing to talk through, maybe subjects that you wouldn't think so 14 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.349 much about, especially if you're brand new to this ministry. But this kind 15 00:01:11.349 --> 00:01:15.430 of candom came across my radar the other day as we were in front of 16 00:01:15.469 --> 00:01:19.739 the abortion center right and an ambulance showed up, YEP, and if you're 17 00:01:19.780 --> 00:01:23.700 out track, yeah, and Aartrad if you're out there for any length of 18 00:01:23.780 --> 00:01:26.500 time. We know that these are not safe play. This is they're not 19 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:33.250 good places. MM. And their various reasons why ambulance ambulances show up. 20 00:01:33.250 --> 00:01:36.890 I mean ambulances show up at other medical facilities as well. So we can't 21 00:01:36.890 --> 00:01:40.650 always assume that it's a botched abortion, right, but it certainly could be 22 00:01:40.810 --> 00:01:45.329 that. So we're going to talk through what do you do when an ambulance 23 00:01:45.370 --> 00:01:48.760 shows up at the abortion center? What are some things to do, or 24 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.400 are some things not to do maybe? And so let's talk through that. 25 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.879 Yeah, yeah, I know. For me, you know, there's the 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.989 horror of it showing up and you thinking it might indeed be a botched abortion, 27 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:07.870 but there's the the desire on one hand also to use it, to 28 00:02:07.990 --> 00:02:14.830 use it to expose what happens at an abortion center, and there is a 29 00:02:15.030 --> 00:02:20.580 delicate balance between being using it like an ambulance chaser, right like, for 30 00:02:20.699 --> 00:02:24.099 your own purposes, and being sensitive that to the fact that this is a 31 00:02:24.580 --> 00:02:30.409 someone is hurt, right and in possibly in very bad circumstances, in danger, 32 00:02:30.889 --> 00:02:35.610 certainly so. I think it is important to talk about what we should 33 00:02:35.610 --> 00:02:38.490 do, what should be our immediate responses, and and one of the first 34 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:43.889 things that we always do is we have our camera ready. Yeah, we 35 00:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039 want to record the fact that it was there, because you will hear the 36 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:53.319 lie over and over again abortion is safe and the women are not harmed in 37 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.520 an abortion shit. Yeah, and when you can take a photograph of an 38 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:04.789 ambulance in front of an abortion center, that instantly shed some doubt about that 39 00:03:05.030 --> 00:03:08.469 being true. Yeah, absolutely, and I've been out there, you know, 40 00:03:08.590 --> 00:03:13.819 for about the fast past fifteen years or so and from what I have 41 00:03:14.060 --> 00:03:19.939 seen and recall I've seen, ambulance has come there about twelve, maybe thirteen 42 00:03:20.020 --> 00:03:23.460 different times. Yeah, and some that one of those situations I know in 43 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:27.889 particular, Oh, at least one that I can remember right on the top 44 00:03:27.930 --> 00:03:31.210 of my head. I know for a fact what's abouts abortion situation. Yeah, 45 00:03:31.569 --> 00:03:35.689 some of the other ones could have been, you know, within any 46 00:03:35.770 --> 00:03:39.650 medical facility, and I use medical facility loosely for this, for abortion centers. 47 00:03:39.689 --> 00:03:46.319 Of course, there can be situations that a woman's blood pressure drops or 48 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.319 they pass out for some particular reason, or there's other reasons why it is 49 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.039 we have to recognize that, right, and that's why I said when I 50 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.550 started out, it's not always a botched abortion. Yeah, so to assume, 51 00:03:57.710 --> 00:04:01.310 to jump to the IT's easy to jump to the worst conclusion possible because 52 00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:04.189 we're dealing with a place at murders children for money. Okay, right, 53 00:04:04.310 --> 00:04:08.229 but we also want to make sure that we're being honest and what we're saying. 54 00:04:08.349 --> 00:04:11.300 Right. So if it's not abouts abortion, we don't need to be, 55 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:15.099 for example, on the microphone saying there's a botch abortion that just took 56 00:04:15.099 --> 00:04:16.060 place. You know, right, if we don't know that for sure. 57 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:18.459 Right. So we need to be careful because we want to make sure that 58 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:24.569 the in form maazing that we're giving as credible. Right. Yeah, yeah, 59 00:04:25.009 --> 00:04:29.649 but also do want to I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this, 60 00:04:30.490 --> 00:04:32.889 so I'll just come out out and say it. Right, we do 61 00:04:33.089 --> 00:04:40.920 want to use the fact that there was an ambulance there as fuel for convincing 62 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.800 a mother not to go inside of that place. Right, exactly. Abortion 63 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.720 is not safe, right. Right. And I do know that we have 64 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.800 had pass counselors who were ere nurses and who told us that they would mop 65 00:04:51.800 --> 00:05:00.589 up the effects of the abortion that very same afternoon following an abortion, and 66 00:05:02.550 --> 00:05:08.180 they said that it is more common than we know. Ye, that there 67 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:12.420 are dangers from abortion and that the ER people are the ones that are dealing 68 00:05:12.500 --> 00:05:15.220 with it. But I do want to say, when you've got your camera 69 00:05:15.339 --> 00:05:17.100 ready, there are some things not to do, and I think it is 70 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:21.730 very important, yeah, in to be sure that we're not using this for 71 00:05:21.889 --> 00:05:28.689 our purposes without sensitivity to the mom the patient, and that is, don't 72 00:05:28.810 --> 00:05:30.889 photograph a picture of the mother. Yeah, and if you do, if 73 00:05:30.970 --> 00:05:36.240 you get a picture of the person where she is identifiable on the stretcher or 74 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.839 whatever, blot it out, yeah, before you share it, right, 75 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.879 if you're going to share it, so that no one can identify her, 76 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.480 because that that that is creepy, that we shouldn't do that. Yeah, 77 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.870 them. So I do want to make that point, that it's fine to 78 00:05:51.949 --> 00:05:56.430 have the picture of the of the fire truck, the ambulance, them wheeling 79 00:05:56.550 --> 00:06:00.910 someone in an APP, but blot out any identifying features. And then there 80 00:06:00.949 --> 00:06:04.100 are, I guess, sometimes ways that we know it is in a botched 81 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:09.180 abortion. Right, and I don't know how you knew in in the time 82 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:14.660 that you knew it was, yea but I know we have found out after 83 00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:19.410 the fact, sometimes by reading reviews, and we and the looking at the 84 00:06:19.449 --> 00:06:24.089 dates for when someone wrote a review. Hey, so and so ended up 85 00:06:24.129 --> 00:06:27.970 in the ear. There was even one where someone had died. Yeah, 86 00:06:28.050 --> 00:06:32.560 and the the mother of that dead patient who had had an abortion, was 87 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:39.319 writing a review and anger and the dates corresponded with when we did see an 88 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.360 ambulance there. And another point that I think is important. I I have 89 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.430 seen an ambulance probably at least four or five times. They're almost always in 90 00:06:48.629 --> 00:06:54.629 every case, I believe it's in the afternoon, early afternoon. Yeah, 91 00:06:54.750 --> 00:07:00.230 when they think that we are normally not there. Yeah, I rarely see 92 00:07:00.269 --> 00:07:05.420 them show up in the morning, which leads me to believe it's possible they're 93 00:07:05.459 --> 00:07:11.420 holding off calling the ambulance or the fire truck. Yeah, while they know 94 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14.660 they're going to be witnessed. Yeah, I believe that's the case. Yeah, 95 00:07:14.819 --> 00:07:17.529 well, know, talking about how do you discern? Well, they're 96 00:07:17.529 --> 00:07:19.930 not. It's about's abortion, because that's one of the things I think we 97 00:07:20.129 --> 00:07:24.410 want to do again. We want to be want to be truthful. I'm 98 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:27.410 not just you're not just using the fact that there's an ambulance there and just 99 00:07:27.449 --> 00:07:29.649 kind of run with it all. They killed a woman inside of there, 100 00:07:29.769 --> 00:07:33.000 you know, because that would be us just being dishonest and it would show 101 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.160 that we're not credible in what we're saying in other things. Right. Yeah, 102 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.120 one of the ways that I knew that the last time we saw an 103 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.279 ambulance there, which is not been terribly long ago, is the fact that 104 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.350 the ambulance didn't take anyone with them. Right. So I didn't assume that 105 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:49.709 was about's abortion. Hey, I assumed it was likely a woman's blood pressure 106 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:55.470 dropped and there are certain protocols. Believe it or not, abortion centers sometimes 107 00:07:55.550 --> 00:08:01.500 do follow medical protocols, even though, again, never am I don't accuse 108 00:08:01.579 --> 00:08:03.860 me of trying to paint these people in a good light, because they're not 109 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:07.860 right, but because they're accountable in certain ways, they've got to do certain 110 00:08:07.899 --> 00:08:09.899 things. So if a woman her blood pressure drops blow a certain level, 111 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:13.490 they've got to call an ambulance or they can get in trouble, they can 112 00:08:13.569 --> 00:08:18.410 lose our medical license or whatever. Yeah, so apparently in that situation that's 113 00:08:18.410 --> 00:08:20.850 what happened. I remember actually seeing a young lady kind of stagger out of 114 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.610 there and she looked all flush, and you know that's probably what happened, 115 00:08:24.649 --> 00:08:30.000 or blood pressure or blood sugar dropped really low and they had to call an 116 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.919 ambulance. However, they did wait until the afternoon and that woman had been 117 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.919 in there for quite a while, so I'm going to guess they waited as 118 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.720 long as they could. Yeah, and they found out we weren't leaving, 119 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.110 so they went ahead and called the Ambul it's because they knew they had to. 120 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:45.590 So right, could be a situation like that. I'm making that a 121 00:08:45.629 --> 00:08:50.389 few assumptions in that and we can make kind of educated guesses on what's going 122 00:08:50.549 --> 00:08:54.029 on. But again, we don't want to just assume because there's an ambulance 123 00:08:54.070 --> 00:08:58.419 at the abortion center it's a boss abortion. However, if it is about's 124 00:08:58.460 --> 00:09:03.740 abortion, and we got some evidence to prove that, that that needs to 125 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:09.779 be publicly shown, like people need to see. These are not safe places, 126 00:09:09.049 --> 00:09:16.049 right, these are not health care facilities. Women's lives are ruined and 127 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:20.450 destroyed, just like babies lives are destroyed inside of that place, so are 128 00:09:20.450 --> 00:09:22.610 the lives of the women. So yeah, yeah, so we will post 129 00:09:22.649 --> 00:09:28.080 it on social media without any identifying features of a woman or anything, so 130 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.080 that she could be identified, but we will post it because we want to 131 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:37.039 raise awareness. Yeah, that abortion is not as safe as the socalled pro 132 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:43.990 choice people would would suggest. Yeah, and so I do think that's an 133 00:09:45.029 --> 00:09:50.149 important use of of our photographs and of our presence there that we expose that. 134 00:09:52.629 --> 00:09:54.500 But also you alluded to earlier, and I think this is probably the 135 00:09:54.659 --> 00:10:01.940 very most valuable thing that we can do if an ambulance shows up and it 136 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:07.889 that is to use it as a teachable moment. Yeah, for the women 137 00:10:07.929 --> 00:10:11.649 who are still they are. I have seen women leave when they see an 138 00:10:11.690 --> 00:10:16.690 ambulance or a fire truck. They you know, they they already maybe are 139 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:20.960 feeling some trepidation about whether what they're doing is it is good or not, 140 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.200 and then to see that is kind of like the final Straw, Ye, 141 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.200 that it has them leave. So we can use that for others who may 142 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.269 be are feeling conflicted. Yeah, yeah, and again it's not necessarily hey, 143 00:10:35.350 --> 00:10:39.429 they just bought an abortion. They might botch your abortion. Could be 144 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:43.549 the case, could not be the case. We can certainly say we know 145 00:10:43.669 --> 00:10:46.870 that they've bought abortions here in the past and that could possibly be what's going 146 00:10:46.909 --> 00:10:50.299 on inside of there. But one of the things I will say is that 147 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:54.259 if you came here to hide the fact that you're pregnant and you end up 148 00:10:54.259 --> 00:10:58.539 in a stretcher like that person is, how are you going to explain to 149 00:10:58.580 --> 00:11:01.620 your family why you're here in the hospital? Right, right, be careful, 150 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.090 your sin will find you out. Yeah, that's a warning that we 151 00:11:05.289 --> 00:11:09.330 need to emphasize, because the Bible certainly does, and it's a warning that 152 00:11:09.570 --> 00:11:16.250 is very biblically based and that that is just really critical. Is reminding them 153 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:22.200 this is a sin and there are repercussions for sin and this could be the 154 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.279 repercussion for you, yeah, as well as for whoever that person is on 155 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.480 the stretcher. Yeah. Also, you know, one of the things, 156 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.029 like common theme that we see as we're talking to women going into the abortion 157 00:11:33.149 --> 00:11:35.070 center, if we ask them, did you pray and ask God for assign 158 00:11:35.149 --> 00:11:39.990 line, more often than not they say yes, I prayed and ask for 159 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:43.149 a sign. And so I'll say you think maybe the fact that there's an 160 00:11:43.149 --> 00:11:48.059 ambulance here that's taking woman out of a stretcher at this place that might be 161 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:52.460 assigned to you that you shouldn't do this, that this is not safe. 162 00:11:52.779 --> 00:11:54.460 Yes, this is not a safe place. Right. That's a really good 163 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:58.259 point. If you look at the track record of abortion clinics, there's a 164 00:11:58.299 --> 00:12:01.570 website that we point people to. Is Not our website. I don't really 165 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:05.370 know the people to run this website, but there's some usual information on there, 166 00:12:05.809 --> 00:12:11.090 abortion Docs dot org. They've basically got the track record of the abortionist 167 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:13.250 and abortion clinics all across the nation. Some of it's uptodate, some of 168 00:12:13.330 --> 00:12:18.519 its older information, but if you look through that website, abortion docs dot 169 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.720 org, and you see all of the things that these abortion clinics, these 170 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.440 abortionists are associated with, these are not good people, these are not safe 171 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.269 places. And then, of course, if you know some of the news 172 00:12:31.350 --> 00:12:37.149 of Plant parenthood and other places, think just recently university was called selling baby 173 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:41.669 body parts and things like that, using these these aborted babies for research and 174 00:12:41.750 --> 00:12:48.259 abording children just for research purposes and things like that just just wicked evil stuff. 175 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:52.059 I think it does serve as a sign and it does show how wicked 176 00:12:52.179 --> 00:12:58.570 and dark and evil these places are. Right and we know that the doctors 177 00:12:58.690 --> 00:13:03.210 maybe are not quite of the highest caliber, just by the fact that we 178 00:13:03.490 --> 00:13:09.250 see all the time the socalled doctors. The abortion is being driven into the 179 00:13:09.289 --> 00:13:13.559 abortion center and they're hiding. Yeah, there, they lie down in the 180 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.240 seat, they cover themselves with a blanket, the driver drives them around to 181 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.879 the back of the abortion center and then they quickly race through with the with 182 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:26.120 the you know, Hoodie up and masks and they race through the bushes in 183 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.110 the back so that they can't be identified. So they can't be recognized. 184 00:13:31.269 --> 00:13:37.350 And anyone who feels the need to hide from what they do tells you that 185 00:13:37.509 --> 00:13:41.659 maybe what they're doing is not something they are proud of. Yeah, absolutely 186 00:13:43.419 --> 00:13:48.299 so. So, yeah, well, something that I have heard people say 187 00:13:48.500 --> 00:13:50.860 is, well, it's not Christian to be taking pictures of an ambulance and 188 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:54.379 of someone in their darkest moment. There, there they are, in their 189 00:13:54.419 --> 00:13:58.370 darkest moment in the in a medical emergency. So one of the things I 190 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.610 thought about is as I was thinking through this, is would God do such 191 00:14:03.649 --> 00:14:09.289 a thing? Would he call attention to the damage of sin to others who 192 00:14:09.289 --> 00:14:15.720 are observing? Yeah, well, yes, he does. Cross is one 193 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.039 of the most, you know, perfect examples of that. where he is, 194 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.350 there is Jesus, bloodied, mangled, hanging on a cross because of 195 00:14:24.509 --> 00:14:28.789 our sin, and that is God could not be pointing to a more, 196 00:14:30.710 --> 00:14:35.149 you know, perfect picture, yeah, of the consequence of sin, the 197 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:39.259 horror of the concluence of sin. Yeah, I know there's a temptation for 198 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:45.299 us as human beings, especially we're in front of an abortion center, for 199 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:46.980 example, right, and we're calling out to the women, we're warning them 200 00:14:48.059 --> 00:14:50.500 of the consequences of the sin of abortion. It's going to destroy your baby. 201 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:52.490 This is something you, in a group, regret for the rest of 202 00:14:52.570 --> 00:14:58.250 your life. And then an hour later an ambulance pulls in and it's very 203 00:14:58.289 --> 00:15:01.409 tempting to say, I told you so, Yep, or is that woman's 204 00:15:01.409 --> 00:15:03.769 being taken out on the stretcher? I told you so, I warned you. 205 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:07.360 Why didn't you listen to me? Right, to glow, to right, 206 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.720 to gloat the like. I was right. You are wrong, right, 207 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.240 that that's not the mentality that God wants to us to embrace, that 208 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.759 when it comes down to like exposing sin. Certainly sin gets exposed. Be 209 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.990 careful, your sin will find you out, but the motive of our heart 210 00:15:24.029 --> 00:15:26.269 needs to be checked, like when a woman. And so here's here's really, 211 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:30.389 I think, in my mind and my heart, what I wanted to 212 00:15:30.470 --> 00:15:33.070 impart to those who are listening. Yeah, is when a woman is being 213 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:37.980 brought out on the stretcher or, you know, ambulance shows up, whatever 214 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:41.340 the center scenario might be, our first reactions should be one of grief. 215 00:15:41.379 --> 00:15:46.019 Right. I don't want her, I don't want her life to be destroyed. 216 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.690 I don't want her to suffer the consequences of her sin necessarily. I 217 00:15:50.730 --> 00:15:54.730 don't want to wag the finger and say, I told you so. I'm 218 00:15:54.490 --> 00:15:58.970 I know better than her in the sins that in my sin, in my 219 00:16:00.129 --> 00:16:04.279 destructive sin I have. I have destroyed other people, I have affected other 220 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.879 people with decisions I've made and those decisions have affected me as well. Like 221 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.159 you know, we're all on that same you know, they say sinner saved 222 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:15.840 by grace. Right, I'm no better than her. Yeah, and so 223 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.629 I'm not putting myself against her, pit myself against her it. Look, 224 00:16:18.629 --> 00:16:22.190 I'm more righteous than you. Look what it happened to you and did what 225 00:16:22.309 --> 00:16:26.470 didn't happen to me? I want to be in to be grieve. I 226 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.110 believe it grieves the heart of God. Yeah, I mean, have you 227 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.500 seen women taking out of that place on a stretcher? Yes, seem even 228 00:16:33.779 --> 00:16:37.659 maybe not taken to the hospital and amulance whatever, but like walked out of 229 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:42.580 the door by some of the socalled nurses, their camp walk they're being they're 230 00:16:42.620 --> 00:16:48.289 holding them up, and it right. It's horrifying and it doesn't it doesn't 231 00:16:48.289 --> 00:16:52.769 cause any joy in in any of our wonderful volunteers. We're all filled with 232 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:59.370 sorrow and horror by that. And But, but gloating is you came up 233 00:16:59.450 --> 00:17:03.759 with a great a great verse that I think exemplifies that. It's proverbs twenty 234 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.359 four, seventeen to eighteen. I've got it here. Yeah, me to 235 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.920 read that one. Yeah, do not gloat when your enemy falls, when 236 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.670 they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see 237 00:17:18.230 --> 00:17:23.150 and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them. They're having the the evidence 238 00:17:23.710 --> 00:17:29.309 of what they did, the consequence of it. They're living at yeah, 239 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:33.339 and in the whatever. is terrible thing, as befallen them that they have 240 00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:37.859 to be taken away in a stretcher and that, hopefully, is going to 241 00:17:38.059 --> 00:17:44.529 convict their hearts of this is this is what happens when when we turn from 242 00:17:44.569 --> 00:17:48.890 God, when we rebel against him and do something terrible like like an abortion. 243 00:17:48.930 --> 00:17:52.809 Yeah, but we. We, on the other hand, are warned 244 00:17:52.930 --> 00:17:59.559 by God, don't use that as an opportunity to gloat or rejoice. Yeah, 245 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.519 yeah, and if you are and if you feel that rising up in 246 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.839 you, that kind of I told you so mentality. Yeah, you need 247 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.480 to check your heart. I need to check your motives. Right. Yes, 248 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.670 are they killing children inside of there? Yes, or those mothers involved 249 00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:18.829 in that? Yes, yeah, but do we delight whenever the consequence is 250 00:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.069 like if someone is on death row, right, because they've committed a terrible 251 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:26.140 crime and justice is going to be served and that person is going to be 252 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:30.619 put in the electric chair or, yeah, lethal injection, whatever. Yeah, 253 00:18:30.859 --> 00:18:36.259 if you're like delighted to see the electric tear turned on in the electricity 254 00:18:36.339 --> 00:18:41.059 running through their body or the poison injected in their veins, if you delight 255 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:44.970 in that, and there's a problem with you. Yeah, you've got issues. 256 00:18:45.289 --> 00:18:48.250 You've become as bad as the people that you're fighting against. Yeah, 257 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:56.160 that's the if that's the mentality that is inside of you, and I think 258 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:03.319 I am prone to a little bit of gloating when a mom chooses life. 259 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:08.880 Yeah, and the pro abortion people become very crestfallen and sad because they've done 260 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.549 everything in their power to prevent that. Yeah, that's a little bit different, 261 00:19:12.589 --> 00:19:17.230 because there's been a positive outcome for both the mother and the baby. 262 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:21.150 Yeah, but even that I have been warned. You know, Vicky, 263 00:19:21.589 --> 00:19:25.779 gloating is is not really what you should be doing. You should be rejoicing 264 00:19:26.220 --> 00:19:30.819 that it wass done. But but we are not glow. We should not 265 00:19:30.980 --> 00:19:36.539 be celebrating that, that we showed the enemy up or what. Yeah, 266 00:19:36.619 --> 00:19:38.849 whatever, that's not that's not quite the right motivation. No, it's not. 267 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.609 I mean, ultimately our desires that we want people to come to the 268 00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:47.210 Lord. I don't want people to be, you know, defeated in any 269 00:19:47.289 --> 00:19:51.849 way. I don't want them to be downcast anyway. There's a balance there, 270 00:19:52.049 --> 00:19:53.759 though, and I don't want to get into all of that. Certainly 271 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:59.039 we should rejoice when justice is served. We should write. Yeah, and 272 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.440 so you know, there's a sense in which, yes, if a serial 273 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.589 murderer has been put to death, like, we should rejoice that justice have 274 00:20:07.670 --> 00:20:10.990 been served. Well, that's that's a subject from their podcast in the death 275 00:20:11.029 --> 00:20:14.230 penalty. Yeah, conversation. We haven't gotten up at fall all the time, 276 00:20:14.390 --> 00:20:15.950 though. At the abortion center we should tackle that one day, definitely 277 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:18.269 needle. I think I kind of the cat out the bag of what my 278 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:22.940 stances on that although, however, I will say, not to have to 279 00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:26.980 go off too far on a tangent, I'm not terribly comfortable with the death 280 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:30.099 penalty in the United States of America because our justice system is not what it 281 00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:33.460 needs to be. But we will have that conversation another day. Let's continue 282 00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:40.329 on this conversation. We're not going to rejoice when someone who has done evil 283 00:20:40.769 --> 00:20:45.529 has read the consequences of their evil, because we have to be honest, 284 00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:48.769 we ourselves to have done evil and God, in His mercy, gave us 285 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.000 mercy, he gave us grace. Right, right, and that's what we 286 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.559 hope for others. Yeah, so here's a proverb, so you wonder, 287 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:02.519 is that established biblically as what? Shouldn't we rejoice and righteousness? And should 288 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.630 we rejoice and justice? We should. Yeah, but should we rejoice when 289 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:11.269 our enemy falls, when the wicked suffer the consequences of their sin? Yeah, 290 00:21:11.309 --> 00:21:17.309 here's what the Bible says, proverbs seventeen five. Whoever mocks the poor 291 00:21:17.509 --> 00:21:22.140 shows contempt for their maker, whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished. 292 00:21:22.220 --> 00:21:26.019 Yeah, gloat over disaster. Right, you'll be punished her for doing that. 293 00:21:26.339 --> 00:21:30.420 Yeah, which is even though the you know, it may be that 294 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:34.049 the wicked are getting what they deserve, but we are still not to gloat 295 00:21:34.569 --> 00:21:41.289 over the disaster that ensues. Yeah, yeah, another proverb, proverbs seventeen. 296 00:21:41.289 --> 00:21:42.529 Yeah, I read that one. I did read that one. You've 297 00:21:42.569 --> 00:21:45.130 already read that? Yes, already read that one where you asleep for that 298 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:49.680 time of I won't load over that day, over the well, it's read 299 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.000 it again. Okay, it's a good one. Yeah, do not gloat 300 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.640 when your enemy falls, when they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, 301 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.680 or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them. 302 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.349 Yeah, so God's going to have a wrath on them. Is Ultimately, 303 00:22:03.390 --> 00:22:10.670 what it's saying is we need to leave that hope justice and justice being 304 00:22:10.710 --> 00:22:15.819 carried out and reaping and sewing and people again reaping the consequences of their sin. 305 00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:18.740 Would you believe that in God's hand? Yeah, yeah, all of 306 00:22:18.859 --> 00:22:22.019 that is in the Lord's hands. He sorts through all of that stuff, 307 00:22:22.539 --> 00:22:26.619 not us. Our position should be one of mercy, one of kindness, 308 00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.490 one of Gray's one of understanding that, if not for the grace of God, 309 00:22:30.609 --> 00:22:33.930 we would be in that same situation right. Yeah, and that's a 310 00:22:33.009 --> 00:22:37.250 good principle in general to trust that God's going to take care of this. 311 00:22:37.529 --> 00:22:42.049 He's his wrath, his judgment to the consequences. They are not up to 312 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:48.640 us. They are all up to God in that person. And and we 313 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.000 know he's a just God and we know that he loves them and that the 314 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:59.670 purpose sometimes of suffering, not always, but sometimes the purpose is to teach 315 00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:03.549 and to guide. Yeah, and did that might very well be what's happening 316 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.309 as that woman's being taken away. Yeah, and ambulance. That that God 317 00:23:07.430 --> 00:23:12.779 is using this as an opportunity to teach and guide. Or maybe not for 318 00:23:12.940 --> 00:23:19.740 that, maybe that she abhorded, but maybe for her ultimate salvation, her 319 00:23:19.740 --> 00:23:26.259 ultimate turning to God and for future children through that experience. Yeah. So 320 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:32.450 it can be a really valuable moment and experience for them. And and that's 321 00:23:32.529 --> 00:23:37.529 biblical God, God definitely uses throughout the Bible. We hear about people who 322 00:23:37.250 --> 00:23:44.279 are in terrible suffering circumstances and God does say with some of them, this 323 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.880 is due to your sin. Yeah, now go and send no more less 324 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.319 something worse will happen to you. I think that was the story that I 325 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:56.990 told in the article that were we're going to be putting out about the the 326 00:23:56.549 --> 00:24:03.589 man by the sheep gate. Yeah, who, who was blind. Well, 327 00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:07.109 I don't know if he was blind paralized, but he was John Chipped 328 00:24:07.230 --> 00:24:11.819 Five. Yeah, yeah, and he had been there an invalid for thirty 329 00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:14.539 eight years. And and the way, when, when, I remember, 330 00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:18.740 when I first read that, I just felt sorry for him. Yeah, 331 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.460 and and thought this poor man, and it never occurred to me that any 332 00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:29.289 of this was through his own sin or his own fault. But later on, 333 00:24:29.609 --> 00:24:33.529 Jesus, Jesus, heals him. Yeah, tells, tells him, 334 00:24:34.490 --> 00:24:37.920 do you want to get well? So he asks him first you want to 335 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.079 be healed? The man's gives all these excuses for why he cannot be. 336 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.599 He doesn't really directly answer the question yes or no. He says why he 337 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.920 can't be healed, and then Jesus gives him the command to get up, 338 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.589 pick up your mat and walk. The man's instantly cured. But it's later 339 00:24:56.710 --> 00:25:00.390 that Jesus sees him at the Temple and says, see you are well again. 340 00:25:00.950 --> 00:25:06.190 Stop Sinning, or something worse may happen to you. Yeah. Now, 341 00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:10.140 I could be interpreting it wrong, but to me it sounds like that 342 00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:15.900 at least some of whatever suffering he was going through, maybe all, maybe 343 00:25:15.019 --> 00:25:21.809 just part of his illnesses, was due to sin, because Jesus said, 344 00:25:21.809 --> 00:25:26.890 stop sinning or something worse will happen to you. Yeah, but certainly could 345 00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:32.490 be interpreted that way. I don't know that that's the correct interpretation of it. 346 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.720 I think the warning is, though, that your sin can lead to 347 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.359 terrible things. So right, whether or not that's connected to his earlier state, 348 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.880 that he was invalid or whatever. Yeah, he was paralyzed, whether 349 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.759 it was because of his sin or not, the warning still is that sin 350 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.029 can lead to things worse, yeah, than being paralyzed. Right, yeah, 351 00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.910 it'simately to hell. Yeah. So you later on in I believe it's 352 00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:59.029 John Chapter Nine, were Jesus there's a man who was born blind in the 353 00:25:59.109 --> 00:26:02.910 disciples. Ask Lord it was it because of his sinners parents, and Jesus 354 00:26:02.910 --> 00:26:04.859 said, basically neither one of those. It's for the glory of God and 355 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:10.420 ultimate he heals a man. Right. So it's not always that the things 356 00:26:10.420 --> 00:26:14.460 that you suffer are directly connected with sin, but it is always that there 357 00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:17.940 is a consequence for sin. That's be careful, your sin will find you 358 00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:21.009 out. That's right. And again it's the motive of our heart. What 359 00:26:21.329 --> 00:26:25.890 is our motive when we're seeing the consequences and we even laying out I think 360 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:30.809 there's a sense in which you could say I told you so to someone who's 361 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.920 suffering the consequences of sin. You don't say it like that, I don't 362 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.960 think, but you help them make the connection. And don't you see that 363 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.960 God in his word, clearly warns against, you know, whatever it might 364 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.390 be, sex outside of marriage, and how the consequences can be unplanned pregnancy 365 00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:52.829 and ununput unwanted pregnancy, and you can make that connection. The consequences can 366 00:26:52.990 --> 00:26:56.750 be of doing drugs, can be that. It runs your mind, it 367 00:26:56.829 --> 00:27:00.869 runs your body. Right. Yeah, and it's not like you know, 368 00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:03.740 I told you so in a prideful sense, but it's like look what, 369 00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:07.779 look what God warned you of. Yeah, and you can, I could 370 00:27:07.779 --> 00:27:11.140 say even with a woman who's in this state, who's ended ambulance, who's 371 00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:14.019 in the hospital, who has some kind of negative effect from her abortion, 372 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:17.210 you don't need to necessarily say I told you so, but you can't make 373 00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.650 the connection and see, God warns against the consequences of Sin. Yeah, 374 00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:25.289 and you're not right now suffering some of those consequences that he warned you against. 375 00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:29.049 Right, but you still have breath in your lungs, and so God 376 00:27:29.250 --> 00:27:32.960 still he's not done with you. Don't you see? Now is the time 377 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.640 to a pen and put your trust in him. Yeah, and I think 378 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.839 you can say that and I think you can communicate that to even when an 379 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.400 ambulance shows about the abortion center, any of these scenarios were a woman. 380 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.589 I mean that's that's basically what we're getting at. When a woman is negatively 381 00:27:45.630 --> 00:27:51.710 affected by an abortion and it happens right there in front of you, there 382 00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:53.789 is a way to communicate to them. Don't you see that? Now you're 383 00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:56.910 at the end of yourself and you need God. And really, is it 384 00:27:57.029 --> 00:28:02.180 not that when we're at the end of the ourselves that don't we realize that 385 00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:04.140 that's when we really need the Lord, that we really can't do this stuff 386 00:28:04.180 --> 00:28:07.700 ourselves? That's right, and so you are able to speak kind of that 387 00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:11.930 hard truth about look at where your sin has brought you, because you ended 388 00:28:11.970 --> 00:28:18.529 it with but there is a beautiful opportunity for you right now to turn your 389 00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:22.210 life around and turn your life over to the Lord. Yeah, and so 390 00:28:22.450 --> 00:28:26.250 you can. You're going all the way through the Gospel. Kind of you 391 00:28:26.410 --> 00:28:30.359 seen what is happening to them right there in bringing it to the beautiful conclusion 392 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.480 of repentance and ultimately salvation. Yeah. Yeah, so now I do know 393 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.670 that, as we're seeing this happen in front of us again, ambulance coming 394 00:28:42.269 --> 00:28:47.309 or, like I've mentioned before, we've seen women that have been taken out 395 00:28:47.390 --> 00:28:49.750 by the nurses and walk to their car with their staggering through the car. 396 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:55.710 You know, they just had a surgical abortion. They've obviously been terribly affected 397 00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:57.579 by it. Wasn't just can't ambulate themselves, which, by the way, 398 00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:03.140 I thought that was a legal all that you have to be able to leave 399 00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:07.740 in your on your own power. Yeah, or they're not supposed to discharge 400 00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.170 you. Yeah, I thought that was the case. I could be wrong 401 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.569 about that, but people listening may want to look that up in their own 402 00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:18.690 community. Yeah, I mean maybe there's different laws. I know from what 403 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.730 I understand here locally, as long as someone can drive them away, they're 404 00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:26.000 okay, okay to leave in that state, but yeah, maybe dig a 405 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.839 little deeper in that, but in either those scenarios they've been taken away on 406 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.640 ambulance or they've obviously been negatively affected by the abortion. Are they've not been 407 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.349 outwardly negatively affected by the abortion. They're just driving out again, the ambulance 408 00:29:41.509 --> 00:29:45.309 is driving out. What are the things that I try to train our volunteers 409 00:29:45.470 --> 00:29:51.109 and people that are doing sidewalk ministry to do? Is, when that ambulance 410 00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:55.339 is driving away, what do we want that person to see? Maybe that 411 00:29:56.220 --> 00:29:59.740 woman is able to see out the window, or maybe the person that's riding 412 00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.940 with them, the boyfriend or their mom or whoever is in the ambulance. 413 00:30:03.059 --> 00:30:07.089 When they're looking out, they're expecting to see someone on that sidewalk looking at 414 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:11.089 them, wagging the finger and saying I told you so. When they're driving 415 00:30:11.130 --> 00:30:15.609 out after having had the abortion, and there again they're not negatively affected, 416 00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:19.410 so called, physically or whatever, by the abortion, but they're driving out, 417 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:23.039 they look in their rear view mirror, they're expecting to see someone wagging 418 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.480 the finger, yelling at them, look what you did, I want and 419 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:33.559 you calling them names, calling the names whatever. What I want them to 420 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.190 see, though, and I think this is from the Lord, and you 421 00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.029 guys that are listening, you can bring this before the Lord if you if 422 00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:41.710 you want, if you disagree with me, bring it before the Lord and 423 00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:47.069 see what he says in his word. When they look in that rear view 424 00:30:47.109 --> 00:30:51.099 mirror, what I want them to see is I want them to see us 425 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:55.819 with our heads down, Yep, praying for them. Even put my hand 426 00:30:55.859 --> 00:30:59.099 up, I'm praying. You know, as Pentecostals, like to lay hands 427 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:02.299 on stuff and, you know, pray and lift our hands and all that 428 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:03.890 stuff. I want them to see that. I want them to see a 429 00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:11.049 posture of grief, of humility, of prayer, of intercession for them. 430 00:31:11.210 --> 00:31:15.769 I want them to see that someone cares about them, even that person that 431 00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:18.519 they thought was going to be wagging the finger. That person is praying for 432 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.920 them. Right. I think that's really what they should see in their review 433 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.440 mirror. I agree. That's such a powerful thing for them to see. 434 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.640 And and you're showing the love and the Care Jesus. Yeah, that moment. 435 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.509 Yeah, and it takes us really biting our pride. Yeah, and 436 00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:37.589 US saying, yes, they suffered the consequences of their sin. Yeah, 437 00:31:37.630 --> 00:31:41.869 and they're going to likely suffer the consequences of their sin. But God, 438 00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:44.630 please have mercy, and that's what I'm praying. I'm not just pretending like 439 00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:47.220 I'm praying so they see something, and I'm not trying to put on a 440 00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.700 show, but I do want them to see me in that Review Mirror. 441 00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:52.180 And what am I praying? This is what I'm praying, Lord Jesus. 442 00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:56.259 I pray that you show that woman that you're a god of mercy, that 443 00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:57.619 she can turn to you, that if she turns you, you'll save and 444 00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:00.569 you'll rescue your in spite of her sin, you still love her and you 445 00:32:00.569 --> 00:32:04.690 would still have mercy on her. So I'm praying a prayer of mercy, 446 00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:08.250 intercession. God, draw that woman to your to yourself. I'm praying also 447 00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:12.609 a conviction. I pray that she would see that she took the life of 448 00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:15.410 her child. I pray that she would feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit 449 00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:19.480 and see, Lord Jesus, that you're the only way that her sins can 450 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.720 be washed away. That's what I'm praying right and I'm interceding for that woman 451 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.200 right and I believe God's using that. Yeah, and I agree. And 452 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.640 not, and I think you've said this but just to say again, not 453 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.549 only when they're leaving in an ambulance, but every time, yeah, a 454 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:37.269 woman is leaving and we know she's had the abortion. Yeah, that that 455 00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:44.150 they should see us in merciful prayer, yeah, for them, and attitude 456 00:32:44.150 --> 00:32:49.299 any way of prayer. Yeah, and just to end this thing out and 457 00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:52.940 shift gears just a little bit with a few practical things that I don't think 458 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.740 you have in the article. Maybe you end up adding this. Okay article, 459 00:32:55.859 --> 00:33:01.089 but in the vein of again not being a creeper, not being a 460 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:05.650 Weirdo, I think there is some helpful things you can do, though. 461 00:33:05.769 --> 00:33:08.730 If you see an ambulance at the abortion center, there's a way that you 462 00:33:08.890 --> 00:33:14.599 can get the records of why that ambulance showed it showed up. It's not 463 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.920 in every state and every municipality can be a little different, but you can 464 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.920 call and you can ask for the information. They are a public records. 465 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.430 The freedom of Information Act basically allows for you to be able to get this 466 00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:31.470 information that's public so that the public can be aware of the things that are 467 00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:35.829 going on. So if you do get the information, they're going to have 468 00:33:36.069 --> 00:33:39.910 didacted, the woman's name likely, and some of the information that might identify 469 00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.859 who she is. And again that's not what we want to know. You 470 00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:45.099 know, and I wouldn't put that out either. If you did find anything 471 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:50.140 out, I wouldn't use that name, but definitely using what happened and knowing 472 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.299 if it was a boxed abortion in any way. Right, and the motive 473 00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.130 behind that. Again, it's not to go against that woman, right, 474 00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.450 right. We want her to come to know the Lord, right, but 475 00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:01.049 it's really to expose. Was that Efesians, Chapter Five, verse eleven, 476 00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:06.369 have no fellowship within froof of workshop darkness, but rather expose them. We 477 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.199 want to expose these abortion clinics, who want to expose what they're doing. 478 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.840 They pretend to be women's health care facilities and yet they're butchering women behind the 479 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.360 scenes. I mean, look what happened in the current gods nail thing, 480 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.039 right, and how that finally got exposed. But what if someone would have 481 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.469 earlier exposing which actually, if you listen to them, there's a there's a 482 00:34:24.550 --> 00:34:29.150 documentary that is called Gus. Now it's actually not a documentary, actually a 483 00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:32.590 movie. But then there's documentaries that kind of show that whole current Guznell thing 484 00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:37.510 that took place there were people that actually try to expose this and there's a 485 00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:40.099 lot of cover up and all that stuff, but we've got to do what 486 00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:45.980 we can to expose these abortion centers for really what they are, especially because 487 00:34:45.059 --> 00:34:52.579 there's such a powerful lobby behind mind those, the abortion industry, and we 488 00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:58.929 are probably not as powerful or have as much money. So whenever we do 489 00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:04.730 have information that can be a chink in their armor of lies, then we 490 00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:09.239 should we should definitely give that information, yeah, to the public. Yeah. 491 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.440 Are there any other helpful suggestions? You said there were. There were. 492 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.920 Now, that was basically it, you know, digging into public records 493 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.110 if you can. Yeah, to expose these places. Okay, even on 494 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:24.989 the sidewalk, having a sheet of paper. We have what we call it. 495 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:29.389 It's call our bullet pointed sheet, right, yeah, about the abortion 496 00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.110 center. So we have these kind of bullet point of these situations where we 497 00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:36.900 know they've boughted abortions and the track record of the abortionist. We have that 498 00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:40.059 so we can show these moms and they can look these things up. You 499 00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:44.179 can find these things in a google search, the different times that they've had 500 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:47.420 citations on their medical record. Far As the abortion center check my clinic dot 501 00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:52.369 org gives some website that will also point out some of the infractions of health 502 00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:57.849 centers. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, checking them out, getting 503 00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:01.849 information about those infractions and having that as something you can show the MOMS. 504 00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:05.639 It's not the first thing I'm going to talk to them about. Really going 505 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.599 to use our three talking points. You know what God says, humanity of 506 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.119 the baby and resources that are available. But I'll also pull that out too, 507 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.880 as a wild card. Do you know about this abortion clinic? You 508 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.590 know what they've been responsible for? Yeah, and that can turn away a 509 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.630 mother from abortion as well. Yeah, it can. So hopefully this was 510 00:36:22.670 --> 00:36:24.389 a blessing you guys. It was kind of an off the cuff subject that 511 00:36:24.429 --> 00:36:28.949 we felt like we we would cover and be a blessing to you guys. 512 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.900 Give us some feedback. Let us know, share this podcast with others. 513 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:38.179 We would certainly love to get more listeners on board and reach out to us. 514 00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:40.659 We reach out to me, Daniel Love Life Dot Org, and reach 515 00:36:40.659 --> 00:36:45.139 hurt Vicki at Love Life Dot Org. If you have suggestions for future episodes, 516 00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:50.769 any comments or things like that about this episode or other episodes. Questions, 517 00:36:50.849 --> 00:36:53.130 we'd certainly love to answer your questions the best we can, but until 518 00:36:53.170 --> 00:37:01.760 next time, God bless, godless y'all. Give our love for love. 519 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:15.599 Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. 520 00:37:19.269 --> 00:37:22.670 Nothing's too precious in some you