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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and me, Lord,
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I am welcome to the Gospel Center
pro life podcast. This episode we're
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going to talk about strategy. I'm
to talk about how to be most effective
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out on the sidewalk at the abortion
center to see baby saved in the Gospel
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proclaimed. Stay with us. I
felt show passish, touch your heart,
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use me. Well, welcome to
the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate
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you, guys listing. Appreciate you
guys tuning in and taking in this content
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that we so graciously put out there
for you guys. We do our best
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to put out content that will bless
you. Mainly focused on sidewalk ministry,
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although we focus on other subjects as
well, but we kind of like to
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stay in our lane and I think
we know a little bit, at least
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a little touch, about sidewalk council. Taking US twenty years right, yeah,
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all right. So anyway, we're
going to talk, just to get
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right to the point, about team
strategy. Some of the things that we
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find with the sidewalk missionaries that we're
seeing raised up all over the country,
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all over the world, is that
some of the practical stuff is is being
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missed or just they just don't know
about these practical things, stuff that we've
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learned over the years that helps out
with our sidewalk teams that we've trained and
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raised up here in Charlotte. And
so just we're going to talk about certain
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dynamic certain things to be aware of. We've already shared some of this with
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our sidewalk missionaries, which is why, because these questions kind of came across
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our desk, so to speak.
Yeah, and so we've answered some of
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these questions. We've helped some of
our cybalk missionaries through at least laying out
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of strategy for their teams out on
the sidewalks and we thought, Hey,
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let's put this out there in a
podcast for some of our other subwalk missionaries,
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for other individuals who are doing the
cybbalk ministry that are not necessarily associated
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with love life or cities for life
or anything like that, because we think
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that some of these practical things that
we learned would be a blessing to you
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guys. Yes, some of them
seem so basic that we kind of forget,
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you know, we think we just
assume everyone knows them, and maybe
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they do. A lot of them
are just common sense, but they're useful
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to go through and just delineate what
they are. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
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know it's easy for us, you
know, when you're in a certain field
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of work, it is easy to
forget that some of the things are just
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very basic to you. They're like
everybody knows this. Actually aren't basic to
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everybody. They've become second nature to
us. Yeah, we've done it first
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exactly. Yeah, so we're going
to talk about some of these things.
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We're going to talk about just some
of the different strategies that you guys can
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employ. Again, some of the
things to watch out for, some some
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of the things to be aware of
when you're when you're trying to organize your
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team's God is raising up people all
across this country to do ministry at Sidewalks.
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Not Everybody can be a silwalk missionary. We talked about that some months
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ago. We did a podcast about
sidewalk missionaries and you guys know, if
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you've been listening for a while,
that we've merged cities for life, emerged
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with love life, in an effort
to raise up silwalk missionaries all over the
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country. And part of our role, part of my role primarily, and
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then you're helping me out with this
because you're such a wonderful person, is
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in training these silwalk missionaries. And
so again, we've had some of these
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questions come across our desk and so
we're going to kind of answer these more
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in a broader sense rather than just
kind of a one on one sense.
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Yeah, so the first one is
really kind of the where everybody has to
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start. Yeah, your focus,
keep the main thing, the main thing,
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focus on the mission. Yeah,
and so what's our main mission?
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Well, would you say to me? Our main mission, we always say,
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is to bring glory to the name
of Jesus Amen's that's our main goal.
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Yeah, but under that, God
has called us, we believe,
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to be a Gospel centered presence at
the abortion centers. Right, so we
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are called to reach MOMS and to
rescue babies from death. That's why we're
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out there at the abortion center.
We're not out there to even as tempting
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as it is, to reach out
to the pro boards that are out there
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or the security guards that are there, even the abortion workers. All of
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those people are important to the Lord. All of those people are loved by
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God and we believe God can,
even God will, save all who turned
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to him. Yeah, however,
when Jesus called you to be at the
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abortion center, he didn't call you
there to reach out to pro abortion people.
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Yeah, he called you to reach
out to the MOMS and to rescue
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those babies that are scheduled to die. So keep that as your primary focus.
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Now we've seen abortion workers come to
the Lord. We did a podcast
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with Kevin, who used to be
actually one of the escorts that opposed what
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we're doing right, and God saved
him and now he's volunteering on the sidewalk
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here in Charlotte. Praise God for
that. God can reach those people.
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Were not saying don't reach out to
those people, but they just can't be
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the main thing. That's right.
Once there was a fisherman fishing at the
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pond right across the street from latrobe
where we minister and and I shared the
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Gospel with him and he came to
the Lord. But he's not our focus.
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And and so we it is easy
to get distracted and to lose the
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main focus in the problem with that, of course, is that then your
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focus ministry goes unattended while you focus
on what you shouldn't be focusing on.
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So keep the focus. Yes,
what made one of the things that can
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happen and that does happen, that
I've seen happen and I know you have
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to is when you let those pro
abortion people be the main focus, right,
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or you let the guy you know
fishing stuff out of the out of
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the pond they're or fishing in the
pond. He was fishing at the time,
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right guy, it comes every once
along, cleans out the little drainage
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thing. Yeah, at the pond
he's he's getting all kinds of basketballs and
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boots, spare tires, all the
stuff out of the pond. And Right,
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we've been able to minister to him. But the point is that if
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we let him be the main focus, then we miss the mom's going into
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the abortion sent we miss being able
to reach a mom who could potentially what
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we're saying to her could potentially save
her babies life and write bring her to
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the Lord exactly. And so,
in keeping the main focus, a lot
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of the things we're going to talk
about actually are how well, how do
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you do that? Are there ways
to help you stay focused on your mission?
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The main one, and that the
one of the biggest ones we found,
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is because sidewalk counselors are some of
the greatest people on Earth. You
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want to chat with them and that
often becomes a problem. Yes, so
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our second point is avoid Chit Chat. Yeah, and that again is keeping
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the main thing, the main thing, like you mentioned, s I walt
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counselors. I mean some of the
the most awesome Christians I've ever met.
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I've met out there to sidewalk to
and they love Jesus. You love Jesus.
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You want to talk and listen.
There's time for that. There are
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times when we get into some pretty
deep discussions and encourage each other, and
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we need to do that. We
need to be intentional about encouraging each other
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out there on the subwle because it's
hard work. But we just can't get
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into Chitchat mode. Yes, so
I call it Chit Chat Mode where we're
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just chit chatting, we're just talking
about whatever. Yeah, things that maybe
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don't pertain to reach. In those
moms things are, you know. Well,
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we have for breakfast whatever, right, easy to do, and deep,
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long discussions, and so I'll sometimes, you know, they're great discussions,
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but I'll have to say we can't
do that out here. We can't
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do a long discussion out here.
But you do raise an important point where
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where you're not saying that there aren't
times when you should be encouraging each other,
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because there's no doubt this is hard
battle that that you're engaged in.
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Yeah, on the sidewalk and you
sometimes do need someone to pat you on
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the back and say hey, you're
doing great. Yeah, absolutely, we
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don't. We don't want to lose
that not. And also you got to
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think to the perception of a woman
going into the abortion center, or,
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let's say, a woman going in
and out of the abortion center just to
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passer by right, like they know
why we're there or there because babies are
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dying in there. Right, we
believe that babies are dying in there,
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but if they see us out on
the sidewalk just Chit Chat and looking on
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our phones or whatever, listen,
I know I've been guilty of it myself.
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It's easy, especially when there's a
law in the day, when nobody's
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coming into the abortion center and you're
may be waiting for the next wave of
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appointments or whatever, it's easy just
to get distracted with talking or get on
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your phone or whatever, but it's
just it's not a good outward appearance anyhow,
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and also some things that I've seen
on the sidewalk when you get into
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Chitchat mode that I think are very
unhelpful and can be a really a bad
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witness is when you're out there laughing
and joking. Now, yeah, I
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am a jokester. I like to
I like to make funny jokes and laugh
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at funny jokes and all of that, but especially when somebody's out there on
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the sidewalk who's a prolifer, who
loves Jesus, loves people, believe the
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babies are done in there and then
we let out some loud burst of laughter
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it. Yeah, it just not
a good look. Yeah, it looks
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like you're being flippant over a very, very disturbing, an and heavy subject,
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which is say a child is yeah, I mean, think about it.
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You've just appealed to a mother.
I'm just kind of laying out the
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scenario and it is played out before
I've seen it. Yeah, you've appealed
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to a mother with a very heavy
appeal that hey, we have help available
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for you. God loves you,
God loves your baby. Please don't go
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in there and take the life of
your baby and then ten minutes later,
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five minutes later, two minutes later, you're out on the sidewalk and some
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loud outbursts of laughter because somebody said
something funny. Yeah, and listen,
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I'm not trying to be legalistic.
I like to laugh. Yeah, but
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there's an appropriate time. Of course. The Bible speaks about the there's times
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and seasons for things right, right, and being out on the sidewalk Chit
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Chat and then laughing and shooting the
breeze about things that really are, in
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light of what's going on inside of
there, not very weighty matters. Yeah,
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it's something we need to be careful. Yeah, I got it.
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Got To be careful at the we're
human and you don't want to lose your
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humanity out there and there should be
a certain amount of joy in the Lord.
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But yeah, you got to be
really careful about what others are observing
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and it's that adding or detracting from
what you're trying to impart to them.
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Yeah. So, and one of
the ways that we have found as about
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the the most effective way to avoid
chit chat is to have designated stations.
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Yeah, right, Yep, and
that is a very, very practical way
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to keep people separated and to keep
people from getting in Chit Chat Mode when
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you give them a distinct position,
like here in Charlotte we have what we
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call the driveway position, right,
and the sidewalk position and the call center
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position. So just kind of give
you guys a lay of the land.
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There's a main driveway where people pull
into the the busiest abortion clinic in the
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southeast, and so main driveway where
people pull in and the spot at that
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driveway is a spot where you can
hand out literature, you can call out
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to the MOMS going in. You
can see most of the driveway there.
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So it's the visibilities really good and
that is priority spot number one. And
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we give that spot to somebody and
we encourage them don't leave this spot the
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whole time you're here, have literature
in your hand, engage with the moms
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that are going into the abortion center, try to get them to stop their
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car to take your literature. And
so that gives that person it helps them
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really have a focus. Yeah,
it helps them take ownership, yeah,
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of being out there right. So
I'm I was at driveway position today,
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you know, and I gave out
so many pieces of literature and that's just
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an encouraging place to be when you're
handing out literature. And then the sidewalk
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position is primarily where they're calling out
and that's some distance away. It's ten
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fifteen feet away from driveway position.
So again it's hard to have a conversation
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and it's not a stationary position.
It gives them the ability to pace back
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and forth them the sidewalk. If
somebodys getting out of their vehicle, then
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you call out to them. And
and then the call center, driveway position.
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There's a call center that's right beside
the abortion center and there's a driveway
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for it. Sometimes the abortion patients
go in there. So we give out
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literature at that. And then there
are other positions too that we have.
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We have basically five positions. We
have two kind of peripheral positions where people
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will position themselves up the road from
the abortion center to get people before they
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come all the way down. But
anyway, just kind of gives you guys,
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an idea of what you could do. Yeah, and different abortion centers
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are laid out in different ways.
Maybe you don't have a driveway, maybe
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people are walking up. So you
have so point of engagement though, and
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and and they're sometimes they're. There're
several points of engagement, depending on the
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facility. Wherever that point of engagement
is, you want someone there. Yeah,
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and have a designated person in that. Yeah, absolutely. And again
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it gives people. The Bible says
without vision the people perish. Right.
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That word parish actually means the cast
off, restraint, without a vision,
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without kind of like an understanding of
like, okay, you're holding this position,
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right, you're in driveway position.
You're here to hold this position down,
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to have a line is just like
your your commander in chief. Ultimately,
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the Lord has given you a spot
and you're going to stay in that
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spot, you're going to claim that
as yours and you're going to hold it
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down because that's what you're called to
do. Right. And so it again
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it helps people staying Gaye. It
helps give People Vision, it helps restrain
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people in the calling that they have. Right, yeah, yeah, and
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and so in terms of having the
designated positions, you also talked a little
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bit about that. The priority position
is, if we only have, say,
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one person, a priority position is
at the driveway. But thinking that
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through, in whatever facility you're at, what are the priorities? And not
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only position wise, but top priorities
in terms of what you're doing out there,
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and so we have probably one of
the top priorities is getting the literature
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in their hands. Yes, probably
true. Wherever you are, if you
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have literature that you're giving an abortion
minded woman, you need to get that
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there to turn in your hand.
People are saved by that literature. Yeah,
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sometimes. Yeah, people who wouldn't
maybe normally engage with you in a
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oneonone conversation right will sometimes take literature
and that literature can speak beyond the abortion
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center. We've had women, we
had is he on the podcast a couple
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of weeks ago and it was a
piece of literature. It was one brochure
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that she got in her hands at
the driveway that ultimately calls her to change
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her mind. Yeah, and even
just I mean turned her world right side
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up. It did. It did. So top priority the the literature,
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and you might have other priorities are
second one is calling out that we have
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the priority that every single woman that
enters that place and every time we see
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her face, really we're going to
be calling out. Yeah, our three
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main areas resources what God has to
say in the humanity of the baby.
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Top priority. So literature, and
calling out, and then we listed in
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in as we were thinking about the
priorities. What would be the third priority?
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Calling out her as she comes and
goes. It's maybe not the first
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time you've seen her, but every
time you see her you're going to be
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calling out. Yeah, for our
fourth priority is calling out to the friends
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with the driver, because they still
could make a difference. Fifth Priority,
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abortion workers. Six priority, priority
the pro abortion escorts and advocates, although
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we tend not to call out to
them at all. But so prioritize,
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and this is just so people understand
again, we're not we're not attributing value
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or less value. We're talking about
priorities. We're talking about what our focus
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is right. So we're talking about
the people that were primarily there that we're
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going to pro auraitize to reach out
to them, either give them literature to
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call out to them, because again, you can get distracted. You know,
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if there's a guy milling around on
the parking lot, yeah, who's
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likely an aboard of Dad who brought
his girlfriend or his wife there for an
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abortion, I'm going to try to
reach out to them. I'm going to
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try to call out to him and
get him to come over and talk to
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me. But if there's a mom
walking into the abortion center, I'm not
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going to prioritize him and give him
my attention. He's been milling around the
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park a lot, yeah, for
maybe ten fifteen minutes. He'll still be
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milling around the parking lot after she
goes in. So I'm going to take
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my focus. If I'm engaging with
him, I'll say I'm the only person
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out there and I'm engaging with him
in a conversation across the parking lot,
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or however the scenario might be,
and this is of course, this has
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happened several times. Sure, if
I'm engaging with him and yet a mom
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is walking out, so you get
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the abortion center, I'm going to
put that conversation on hold for a second.
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It might seem rude to him,
I don't care. This is life
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and death. Yeah, and so
I might say hold on for one second
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and then I'm going to address that
mom going in and try to get her
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to come and talk to me,
because I've got my priority straight. In
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that sense, she's the one that
has the final say in what's going to
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happen to that child. She's the
one that can call it all off or
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say go ahead and have this abortion, and I guess our priorities are the
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one see closest to line to making
the final decision of whether that baby lives
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or dies. Yeah, so have
our priority straight. Another good strategy to
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think about is where, first of
all, should you use signs? Where
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should the signs be in and what
signs? So, if you're going to
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use the VIC to image, sign, the abortion image, yeah, abortion
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victims sign. Yeah. So we
acture. Should it be? Yeah,
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we actually did a podcast about this
very subject, so I'll just touch on
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it just briefly. We and again
we did a podcast about graphic images and
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the use of graphic images, and
I know there's people that are against that
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and you know, I think either
way, before the Lord, as long
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as you're doing what you do before
the Lord, I think it's fine.
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I think there's a problem with graphic
images if you're using them right at the
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driveway as people are pulling in.
I think it can discourage people from stopping
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and taking information. I do think
that you need to look at the scenario,
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look at what's going to be most
beneficial. We if we use graphic
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images. We typically use them away
from the driveway, away from the areas
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of engagement. But listen, signs
are very effective. There's no doubt about
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it that signs have changed minds.
Right, no doubt about it that chance
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signs have saved babies lives. Yeah, and whether that's a victim image sign,
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which you know, listen if people
have problem with those, I've seen
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more baby saved from those signs and
any other signs. So babies are saved
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by those signs. But babies can
be saved by a sign of a mom
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holding the baby. We have some
of those with love life. That's what
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we typically use, the signs of
Hey, moms that have chosen life here
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at latrobe holding their baby. I
chose life, so can you. One
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of the signs says. So signs, like I often say, can be
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a sign, a sign good and
they and they have to and you can
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use some strategically in the placement and
where you place them can be part of
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your your team strategy. Yeah,
we've mentioned this many times before, but
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it's so basic and so important.
Call out the three key areas, humanity
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of the baby, resources and God. Yeah, and that's an important part
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of strategies, figure out how to
simplify what you call out to your volunteer
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so that they can keep it in
their heart and mind and, in those
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fifteen precious seconds that they have,
use it to the fullest. Yeah,
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absolutely, and just to this point, in the same way with signs,
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if we're going to have signs that
are displayed and they're going to have messages
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written on them, they have to
be really short and to the point.
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They can't convey complex theological thoughts.
Right. Complex theological thoughts are awesome,
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that's cool, but on a sign
people are not going to be taken in
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the information. It's like more is
less in this kind of scenario. In
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the same way in calling out,
if you're calling out to a mother and
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you're trying to convey to her some
kind of complex thought that she needs to
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think through, she's already scared,
she's a already dealing with a bunch of
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stuff in her heart and her mind. That's why we say the three talking
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points are just really a key because
it makes it very simple for us as
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we're calling out, makes it simple
for the MOMS that are listening. If
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you can stay around those kind of
key points, what God says about this,
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the humanity of the baby in the
resources available. You can keep that
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actually in ten seconds or less,
and you can keep it just some really
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quick points. Your baby's hard is
beating. That's the humanity of the baby.
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God loves your baby and has a
plan for your child. That's what
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God says about this. We have
help available to meet whatever need you have.
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That's resources. Those are not complex
thoughts. Those are just simple to
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the point thoughts and as you're thinking
through strategy, be thinking through that because
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if right now you're kind of using, and I've heard people in front of
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abortion centers use kind of like complex
thoughts or even even words that maybe people
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wouldn't even understand, like the word
propitiation. You ever heard that? Yes,
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where I have, yes, a
biblicord. It's an awesome word,
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but it's probably not a word I'm
going to be using to a mom going
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into the abortion center that's from.
Probably not going to say hey, Jesus
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Chrises a propitiation for your sins if
you put your trust in him. You
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know I'm not going to do that
because it's not a it's too complex of
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a thought to complex of word.
So that's just one kind of silly example.
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Yeah, but we need to be
thinking through in our strategy how we
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can get right to the point with
these MOMS exactly and so, and it
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will be repetitive to you oftentimes way
you say, but remember they're hearing it,
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yeah, for the first time.
So the progression of the discussion should
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lead to conviction. And sometimes you
have more than fifteen seconds. Sometimes we
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only do have ten or fifteen seconds, but sometimes they'll stop and listen or
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there they will stand on the porch
and listen. Sometimes they'll even approach you.
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And I think it's important to remember
where do you go in the discussion?
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And if you don't come to a
point where you're convicting them, it
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is, of course God in the
Holy Spirit that's convicting them. But but
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what you are saying helps to bring
them to a point of conviction, then
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they may still go in because their
heart has not been convicted that what they're
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about to do is wrong. Yes, so it's important to have convicting verses
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that you know, that you can
call out, and we actually have some
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that we have written up and maybe
we could post these. We absolutely podcast,
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because I think these are just examples
there's thousands of them in the Bible.
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Yeah, it's a we could throw
it up in an article on the
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sudwalks for life website and of course
I'll link that in the show notes on
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the on the podcast. Yeah,
definitely sure, because we have these documents
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all set ready to go. But
one of my favorites Hebrews ten twenty six.
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I know I've said this many times
before on podcast, but if we
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go on sitting willfully after receiving the
knowledge of the truth, there no longer
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remains a sacrifice for sins, but
a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury
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of a fire which will consume the
adversaries. That's a convicting verse. That's
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that's a pretty convicted verse. Oh
and you willfully you know the truth because
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we just told you the truth.
Yeah, and God has told you over
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and over again in the Bible and
you go willfully in and disregard the truth.
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The Bible has some pretty scary consequences
that are listed. This is not
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something that you're going to be calling
out to a mom, going to tell
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your bors and self. This is
where as the as the discussion progresses,
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maybe she's come to see you facetoface
and but but I would call out,
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and I have sometimes a verse like. Well, if you claim Jesus is
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your Lord, what do you do
with a verse like where Jesus says,
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why do you call me Lord,
Lord and not do what I say?
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easier and quicker and if I've got a
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little bit more time I will call
that out. The point being that there
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is a point at which it's not
enough just to do those quick little statements.
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Sometimes you want to say something that
it's really going to lead to heavy
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conviction in their in their spirit.
Yeah, YEA, and in those conversations
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we always say you've got to be
led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy
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Spirit knows far more about these MOMS, about their situation, about their future.
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I mean, God knows. We
don't have a clue. There's certain
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truths we can give, but sometimes
God'll drop things in your heart. Yeah,
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God'll take you in a direction.
Maybe you want to take a really
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soft approach and you don't want to
come across as condemning or whatever, and
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certainly we shouldn't. That's not our
desire, ever, but maybe you want
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to take a soft approach and the
Lord Says No, this person needs they
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need to hear the cold, hard
truth, or maybe the opposite his trees.
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You just kind of maybe you at
the end of the day, you've
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kind of just been fed up with
so many hard hearts going in, and
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trust me, I've been there and
done that, and you just feel like,
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okay, this this mom finally did
come over and talk to you,
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or she finally did stop and talk
to you, and use want to lay
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it on her heavy, but the
Holy Spirit saysn't no, you need to
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you need to handle this and we
kiddi gloves and need to be led by
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the Holy Spirit. We need to
be walking with the Lord and put on
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the armor of God so that we're
not led by the flesh. We have
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to be led by the Holy Spirit, which is such a good point and
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so true. What what prompted the
discussion of convicting versus was when one of
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our missionaries said, you know,
mom stop and talk with me all the
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time and we have great conversations and
they keep going in and killing their baby.
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have you ever brought out some of
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these convicting verses? And she had
not, and I think some dis she
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said. Maybe that was kind of
this is not quite accurate language, but
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seal the deal kind of with Ya, with bring them to a point of
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true conviction. Wow, what I'm
about to do really is wrong and disregarding
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God's clear word. Yeah, so
how about not everybody has resources or a
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notre sound to offer. Yeah,
but if you do offer it, yeah,
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don't get to offer those resources.
That's one of the things that I
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kind of want to get right at. They stopped in the driveway. Now,
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some of you guys, you're dealing
with an abortion center where there's not
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vehicle traffic, there's foot traffic.
Yeah, so it's a little bit different,
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but you know, I'm speaking from
the perspective of vehicle traffic coming in.
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Somebody stops, first couple of things
I'm going to do is I'm going
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to say, Hey, are you
here for an abortion? I'm going to
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hand them one of the brochures and
say, Hey, I have have some
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information for you. Hey, and
then I'm going to try to get them
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on that RV right away. We
have a free lund, the mobile ultrasound.
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Yeah, absolutely, that ultra sound
unit. I'll point right to it.
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I'll say that mobiltra sound unit over
there has free ultrasound, free pregnancy
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test, and you be willing to
just to get on board there real quick
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and we can give you a free
pregnancy test your sound. Yeah, I
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want to get them right to that. It's kind of like one of my
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strategies, one of my, I
guess, selling points or whatever. I
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want to sell them the fact that
they can get a free ultrasound. Again,
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we're not selling anything, but we
are trying to we're trying to give
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a pitch, not a sales pitch, but ultimately we are trying to lead
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him to leave life right and and
we're blessed by Monroe help pregnancy center sends
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out a mobile ultrasound unit at almost
every day. Not every place has that.
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Yeah, but whatever resources you do
have, it it's him. Don't
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forget those. Be Sure within the
first few seconds. That should be one
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of the talking points. Yeah,
and let's say there's maybe there's not a
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mobiltres sound unit there, but there
is a pregnancy center very close to the
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abortion center. And a lot of
cities we're seeing that more and more,
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as pregnancy centers are locating themselves right
near abortion centers. That's awesome. Right,
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maybe it's ten or fifteen minutes away. Either way, I would still
414
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offer that as a resource pretty quickly. Right, and you can even make
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up some some cards that have directions
how to get to the pregnancy center number.
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00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.039
That's a great idea. I mean, we've had folks hop in their
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00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.799
car and say follow me, I'll
take you there. I know some of
418
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Our New York team are ladies there
there. Yeah, they got them.
419
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.319
They said hop in the car and
I'll drive you there, and they'll drop
420
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.000
them there because I have a lot
of foot try trafficking. Have we got
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a lot of people coming in from
the trains and all of that using public
422
00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:51.190
transportation. Yeah, and so they
like hopping the car and they'll take him
423
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to the pregnancy center that's twenty minutes
down the road. They so him to
424
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share the Gospel and whatever as they're
on the road. Yeah. So how
425
00:27:57.190 --> 00:28:02.619
about this strategy of how many people
should approach? We get so excited a
426
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mom stops, maybe a car stops
or a mom comes over to talk.
427
00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:10.819
So should the whole team descend upon
their car? Yeah, I mean that's
428
00:28:10.900 --> 00:28:14.450
really helpful if we can. If
somebody does stop, everybody's excited we mob
429
00:28:14.650 --> 00:28:18.529
the car. That's that's the best
strategy. No, it's terrible strat but
430
00:28:18.769 --> 00:28:22.450
I'll tell you, it is a
very strong temptation, especially when you've been
431
00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:25.769
there for a while, it's kind
of been a boring day or whatever,
432
00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:29.720
and somebody finally stops and finally wants
to talk, or some I finally walks
433
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.279
over and stops taking information. The
tendencies for everybody to flock to that because
434
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.559
there's been no interactions. Right,
finally, finally, it's like it's like
435
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.549
everybody fishing at a pond, right
it this does happen. Everybody's fishing out
436
00:28:41.549 --> 00:28:45.509
upon nobody's catching anything, and as
soon as somebody catches something, everybody surrounds
437
00:28:45.589 --> 00:28:48.430
that person in cast their right.
They're pull in there, their line in
438
00:28:48.549 --> 00:28:52.990
as well, right, or were
restrained enough that will just take photographs,
439
00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:56.180
yeah, or victors are right,
right. Or just watch them with it,
440
00:28:56.339 --> 00:28:59.460
you know, with big guys,
and none of that is a good
441
00:28:59.500 --> 00:29:02.660
idea. You should really it should
be one person. Yeah, honestly,
442
00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:06.420
that's that's the best strand yeah,
I mean I'll say one person, or
443
00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:10.529
sometimes we'll call him back up,
especially if I was talking to a mom,
444
00:29:11.410 --> 00:29:14.250
and maybe I'd gotten to a particular
point in a conversation where I think
445
00:29:14.250 --> 00:29:17.089
it would be more appropriate for a
woman to be in that conversation. Yeah,
446
00:29:17.089 --> 00:29:18.809
I'll motion for you to come over, and that's some of the strategy
447
00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:22.170
to that. You guys can think
through his hand motions. Like maybe,
448
00:29:22.690 --> 00:29:26.759
I know some people use walkie talkis
and they might walk you talking through.
449
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.920
Hey, I have somebody over your
stuff. Yeah, you could probably do
450
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.039
that. Yeah, to me it's
a little awkward. Yeah, but I
451
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.319
think hand signals, I mean there's
certain hand seggals we use. As a
452
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.829
mom's walking into the abortion center and
we're using the microphone, we have hand
453
00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:42.190
signals that indicate whether not a mom
is going in or coming out of the
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00:29:42.269 --> 00:29:45.990
door, whether it's a dad going
in or coming out of the door,
455
00:29:45.029 --> 00:29:48.509
and so hey. But even like
carside hand signals, I don't have any
456
00:29:48.509 --> 00:29:52.019
special hand signal for that. But
if you see me going like that right
457
00:29:52.059 --> 00:29:55.900
there, we did, then you'll
know that that I need help. And
458
00:29:56.220 --> 00:29:57.380
Yeah, the the reverse can be
true. You know, if I'm talking
459
00:29:57.380 --> 00:30:00.180
to a young lady, I might
call you over at some point in the
460
00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:03.500
conversation. If you're talking to a
guy, you might call me over because
461
00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:07.250
more appropriate, I can maybe have
more of a man to man. You
462
00:30:07.490 --> 00:30:11.490
have more woman to woman. Yeah, but yeah, typically, if I'm
463
00:30:11.529 --> 00:30:15.650
going good in a conversation with somebody, I don't like when someone comes over.
464
00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:17.849
They wanted, okay, try to
come over and offer their help.
465
00:30:17.930 --> 00:30:21.369
I'm like saying me, though,
because it can throw the conversation off complete
466
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:23.559
and we don't want to, you
know, we don't want to lose our
467
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.440
train of thought's easy for my train
of thought to come off the rails.
468
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.279
I want to use my lose my
train of thought and then you don't want
469
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.640
to get that person that you're talking
to is you're engaging in a hard to
470
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.549
heart conversation. You don't want them
to lose their train of thought in that
471
00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:38.829
connection, because I've seen situations,
and I know you have to, where
472
00:30:38.829 --> 00:30:44.230
you're engaging with somebody and somebody comes
up and they're trying to help, but
473
00:30:44.309 --> 00:30:48.150
it ends up derail in the whole
conversation and they drove on into the abortion
474
00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:51.539
center. Right and right, right. Sure, we're in our strategy.
475
00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:53.940
We're talking through that. Yeah,
so in general, I think another good
476
00:30:55.059 --> 00:30:57.579
part of that strategy is talk it
over with team members. I have told
477
00:30:57.700 --> 00:31:02.940
team members. I don't want you
to approach unless I call you over.
478
00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:06.890
I need to have that one.
I'm on conversation. The Holy Spirit is
479
00:31:06.970 --> 00:31:11.809
guiding that discussion and the relationship with
someone in crisis, the aboardive minded mom,
480
00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:17.210
is a tenuous relationship and who she's
going to trust? She yeah,
481
00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:21.720
it's enough just getting her to trust
that one person. Yeah. So also
482
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.079
just thinking about approach to because we're
talking in particular about somebody that's actually stopped
483
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.440
to take information and your oneonone.
We don't want everybody convergion on that vehicle.
484
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.630
But even when you're offering literature,
whether it's offering literature to vehicles or
485
00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:37.990
women who are walking in. Yeah, if you've got two or three people
486
00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:42.670
approaching that person at the same time
with literature, holding out the literature for
487
00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:45.269
them to take it, they're going
to be less likely to take it.
488
00:31:45.390 --> 00:31:49.900
Like that's pretty intimidate. Again,
she's already scared, she's already got chaos
489
00:31:51.019 --> 00:31:53.539
and confusion and if you got two
or three people coming and off your literature,
490
00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:57.220
you're going to be really intimidate.
It's intimidating like an army coming against
491
00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:00.769
her. It's intimidating just to have
one person coming offer you something that you
492
00:32:00.849 --> 00:32:05.329
don't know. As you're walking to
your appointment. You know your yeah,
493
00:32:05.369 --> 00:32:08.089
your medical appointment, and the same
is true down the road. We have
494
00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:13.890
a long portion of the sidewalk where
there's several of US spaced out and if
495
00:32:14.049 --> 00:32:16.640
every one of US steps out into
the road as the car is going by
496
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.200
offering information, that can also be
overwhelming. So we really kind of request
497
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.440
that just the person at the first
driveway in the person at the second driveway
498
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.349
are the ones that step out in
even into the road. But it's good.
499
00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:34.109
It definitely a good strategy to talk
that over with your teams to make
500
00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:39.269
sure that they understand less is better
in those in those cases, always off
501
00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:43.750
her prayer. Yeah, always off
her prayer. I know I'm kind of
502
00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:46.740
guilty of forgetting that. Yeah,
prayer is kind of for me a last
503
00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:51.339
resort. Shouldn't be. I'm always
praying while I'm out there, but in
504
00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.740
terms of offering prayer to the MOMS, even sometimes at the beginning, that
505
00:32:54.940 --> 00:32:59.529
can decrease barriers. Yeah, if
they know, hey, they just want
506
00:32:59.529 --> 00:33:00.849
to pray with me. How many
people feel like that? Too Bad?
507
00:33:01.170 --> 00:33:05.730
Right? Yeah, yeah, I
mean that's one of the things actually you
508
00:33:05.890 --> 00:33:08.049
can call out to the MOMS as
are going into the abortion center. You've
509
00:33:08.089 --> 00:33:13.480
kind of given them everything. Three
talking points. Yeah, whatever else you're
510
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.119
talking to them. But one of
the things that I've offered, and I've
511
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.279
seen it be effective. I've seen
our sidewalk counselors here offers just let us
512
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.359
pray with you before you go in
there. If you're in a lengthy conversation,
513
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.750
that's how I always want to in
the conver versation. Right I'm in
514
00:33:28.789 --> 00:33:32.069
a lengthy conversation and I just had
just the other day I was talking to
515
00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:36.190
a couple. They were walking up
to the abortion center. It was obviously
516
00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:38.630
a young man and a young lady
and mother and father of the child that
517
00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:43.460
she was carrying in her womb.
And you know, I talked to him.
518
00:33:43.539 --> 00:33:46.779
They were very humble and listening to
what I was saying, but still
519
00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:52.180
pretty resistant to actually choose life.
I was pointing them toward the mobile unit,
520
00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:54.019
saying just up the road as a
mobile unit, my wife's a nurse
521
00:33:54.099 --> 00:33:58.369
on board today. She'll give you
a free pregnancy test and ultrasound. I'll
522
00:33:58.450 --> 00:34:01.849
help you. Guys, and I
mean they just they were very thankful.
523
00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:07.089
They wanted at least to listen.
Even one of the pro abortion ladies came
524
00:34:07.130 --> 00:34:08.130
over and said you don't have to
talk to them. They're like, we
525
00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:12.719
know he's fine, we can make
our own decision to talk to them.
526
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.880
Yeah, it's not, because it
was. It was really validating. It
527
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.119
was really frustrating, like leave US
along, you're the people there the same
528
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.559
mind your own business and your yeah, that's that's a whole other subject.
529
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.469
But they they just weren't picking up
what I was laying down. Yeah,
530
00:34:27.469 --> 00:34:30.510
they were. Had some struggles and
they had some betrayal in the past and
531
00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:35.269
he wouldn't trust that we would follow
through and we're offering and I think even
532
00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:37.030
if they knew for sure, I
think they were still just any way.
533
00:34:37.070 --> 00:34:40.500
There's a lot of doubt there.
And they said, well, we're going
534
00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:44.340
to go in. I mean,
thank you for sharing with us, but
535
00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:45.219
we're going to go in. And
what can I do with that point?
536
00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:49.260
I can't grab them around the ankles
and say no, you're not going in.
537
00:34:49.539 --> 00:34:51.900
Yeah, and so I said,
well, just let me pray with
538
00:34:51.980 --> 00:34:55.050
you, let me pray with you
before you go in, and they said
539
00:34:55.130 --> 00:34:59.889
okay, and so I did and
I'm praying as we train our folks.
540
00:34:59.929 --> 00:35:04.250
We're not praying with them. Actually
we're praying at them. I'm praying reiterating
541
00:35:04.289 --> 00:35:07.119
all the things that we've made.
Want to make sure that that God is
542
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.400
saying and I'm appealing to the Lord
Right. Ultimately, it's the Lord's going
543
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.039
to change their hearts. I'm appealing
to God, but I'm saying things like
544
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:15.760
God, I pray you and I'll
get their name. I'm not going to
545
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.440
say what their names were, but
I'll get their name if they'll give it.
546
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.150
They won't, that's fine, yeah, but if I can get their
547
00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:23.190
name, I want to pray with
their name, and so I'll say,
548
00:35:23.670 --> 00:35:28.070
Lord Jesus, I pray that so
and so we'll see your love for them,
549
00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:30.550
your love for their baby, the
provision that you've made for them.
550
00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:34.269
I pray the God they'll see that
their baby is precious in your sight and
551
00:35:34.389 --> 00:35:37.219
to kill this child it will be
wrong in your eyes. And I'll be
552
00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:39.139
praying like that. I pray that
they'll see that every need they have can
553
00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:43.420
be met in the provision that you've
made for them. And I'm reminding them
554
00:35:43.659 --> 00:35:47.420
also the things that I've said.
Yeah, and it can be very convicting
555
00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:52.809
unfortunately, in that situation, they
did going into the abortion center and apparently
556
00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:57.530
chose abortion. I'm not sure.
No, that was the one where all
557
00:35:57.530 --> 00:36:00.969
the missionaries are standing there and and
Elijah's standing with us saying, okay,
558
00:36:01.010 --> 00:36:04.960
Daniels talking to a couple, don't
don't look, and we're all yeah,
559
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.079
okay, thank so. That's when
we're doing the side train. They came
560
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.239
they so about. You were off
way down the street. I'm talking,
561
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.039
I think, to one of the
policemen. Okay, and that couple came
562
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.920
out. Wow, they came out. They chose life. They chose life.
563
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.989
And that's the other thing. As
part of your strategy, when when
564
00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:25.710
they're as your strategue, jeans whatever
that were sharing, to jog right as
565
00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:31.389
a team, know that it ain't
over till it's over, and and those
566
00:36:31.469 --> 00:36:36.980
seats that you have planted, it
was perfect. You had done everything that.
567
00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:42.099
They were a very conflicted couple and
it was just the right amount of
568
00:36:42.380 --> 00:36:46.250
whatever was necessary where they did go
in, but very shortly it later they
569
00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:52.090
came right back out and and we
walking, not I don't know you were.
570
00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:55.530
You were off talking, having an
important conversation with with one of the
571
00:36:55.570 --> 00:37:00.489
policemen at the time. But so
I'm glad you shared that story in particular
572
00:37:00.530 --> 00:37:05.119
because I remember it and it caught
on two points. I actually texted you,
573
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.519
do you want help, and you
never responded. So I figured,
574
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.239
okay, either he's not looking at
his phone or he doesn't want to help.
575
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.000
My tendency was I wanted to run
over there, of course, like
576
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.429
you said, but I I know
we should not unless we've been asked.
577
00:37:17.590 --> 00:37:21.510
Yeah, so, and they ended
up chosen, choosing life. Yeah,
578
00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:24.789
that's also that was pretty, pretty
wonderful, which leads to the next point.
579
00:37:24.949 --> 00:37:30.019
In strategy, and it is strategy. Don't grow weary or give up.
580
00:37:30.340 --> 00:37:34.739
Don't give up. It's so easy
to think they went in and so,
581
00:37:35.019 --> 00:37:37.420
just like you said, so they
must have a board it. Know.
582
00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:45.489
Sometimes we had someone last week come
running out of the abortion center without
583
00:37:45.610 --> 00:37:50.690
shoes. In other words, she
had been in the stir wow and had
584
00:37:50.769 --> 00:37:54.489
changed her mind and was furious.
So something had happened in there. She
585
00:37:54.730 --> 00:37:59.440
didn't even wait to pick up her
shoes. She actually drove away without shoes.
586
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.039
She did return and get her shoes, but here's someone who is at
587
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.280
that last second and and changed her
mind. So you never know. Never
588
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.320
give up. Never give up,
no matter how angry they are, no
589
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.710
matter how many negative signs you've seen. God is a god of miracles.
590
00:38:17.190 --> 00:38:22.389
Nothing is impossible with God, and
we should never grow weary in doing good,
591
00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:27.619
the Bible tells us. Amen.
So don't give up, don't grow
592
00:38:27.659 --> 00:38:34.099
weary. Yeah, another strategy.
WHAT SHOULD OUR DEMEANOR BE? And what
593
00:38:34.260 --> 00:38:38.500
I wrote is approachable, gentle and
kind, but truthful. Yeah, yeah,
594
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:45.130
absolutely. One of the things that
I say is the key to helping
595
00:38:45.170 --> 00:38:47.969
a mom choose life is to have
a one on one conversation with her and
596
00:38:49.050 --> 00:38:51.489
really, if you can get into
a deep one on one conversation, find
597
00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:54.369
out what her needs are, show
her corresponding resources to meet those needs.
598
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:59.880
That that really is a key to
helping her choose life. is but the
599
00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:02.599
key to having a oneonone conversation with
hers for her to approach you. Yeah,
600
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.639
well, the key to her approaching
you is to make yourself approachable,
601
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.869
right. And so if you look
in your facial expression and the way that
602
00:39:10.989 --> 00:39:15.670
you carry yourself, in body language
and all that, if you look like
603
00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:20.110
a derange lunatic, that's just out
there mad, because abortions are taken place
604
00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:24.500
inside of there. You're not approachable
or frantic or or are just absolutely filled
605
00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:30.139
with angst. Even even that can
be a deterrent. They can someone come
606
00:39:30.179 --> 00:39:31.860
in and talk. So we want
to make ourselves as approachable as possible.
607
00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:37.460
We should be, in our hearts, overcome with grief at what's going on
608
00:39:37.579 --> 00:39:39.969
inside of those abortion centers. But
what's in our hearts doesn't always have to
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show in our faces. And really, the truth be told, what's in
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our hearts should be superseded by the
Lord Jesus and the truth of who he
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is in our hearts. Right.
So, even though terrible atrocities are taking
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place, even though these precious babies
are done in these abortion centers, we
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can still be joyful that Jesus Christ
is still Lord, that he's still on
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his throne and he still loves people
and we're still called to reach people for
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his namesake. Right, a man
that can help us to make ourselves approachable.
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So be assured that you have the
answer, because you do. Yeah,
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and and that's again what's in your
heart. Yeah, your heart is
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the Lord. Yeah, and,
and he is the only one that can
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change what's happening there, and you're
probably the only one offering that out at
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that last stitch place. Yeah,
so utilize team members is another really important
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strategy. Utilize your team members.
There's some people don't have a lot of
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sidewalk team members out there. There
are times when we don't, but if
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you do and you can use them, then do use them. For example,
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you're talking as someone who they've expressed
a need for house seeing and it's
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a dire need. While you're continuing
the discussion with them that maybe is getting
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into God, the humanity, the
baby, call a team member over and
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say, can you start calling such
and such? Yeah, how seeing list?
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Yeah, that's just one exam absolutely, there's lots of times when you
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can utilize team member. Yeah,
one of the things that you can utilize
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a team member for. And again, we talked a little bit about not
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having a bunch of people in the
conversation, but you can get into a
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point of a conversation where you feel
comfortable inviting someone else in. Hey,
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this is a friend of mine.
Invite her over to help make an appointment
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for you at the pregnancy center.
Sometimes you Dallas in a team member to
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do that. Like, again,
maybe you don't have them. Will ultrasound
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unit out there? Hey, maybe
there's not a pregnancy center nearby and it's
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fifteen minutes away. It's good if
you can call ahead, if you have
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a good relationship, and that may
be a podcast. That that we need
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to do in the future is how
to build a good relationship with your local
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pregnancy center right because that's really important
and that really speaks to the unity of
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the body working together. And so
calling ahead, having a good relationship with
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them. And then so when you
do call ahead, Hey, I'm so
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and so, I might here on
the sidewalk at the abortion center. I've
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got a young lady. He wants
an appointment. Can we send her over
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right away? And that just kind
of helps her get locked into that appointment.
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Hell ups, or feel secure that
you actually have a plan and you
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use your other team members to do
that so that you can continue in the
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conversation, so that you don't lose
this mom ultimately to think and she needs
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to get into that abortion center.
Yeah, because you can waste valuable time
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while you're on the phone yourself when
you should have been still continuing the convicting
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conversation, conversation with that with that
mom. Absolutely, but we had a
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situation just this past week where the
the mom stopped and said, well,
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what about rape? I was raped, and we had a team member right
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there who was a victim of rape, and so she came over to the
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car then joined the conversation and said, well, I was raped. Let
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me tell you about the joy that
is the child that I had and that
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that turns that mom around. So
so utilize seeing the team members that God
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is placed for often a very perfect
and specific yeah, another situation that comes
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to mind on that kind on that
same vein is a situation where, and
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we did a podcast. I'm referencing
a lot of PODCASTS. We'd couse been
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a lot of podcast to the plot
of these SACAS. We did the podcast
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about adoption. Yeah, and why
and why not to mention adoption? When
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to mention adoption? Yeah, and
there are situations where you get into a
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real deep conversation and you find a
mom is open to adoption and you can
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speak on that in that line of
thought and be talking to them about the
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different method of adoption in the different
adoption ministries and services that you can connect
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them with. But if you've got
somebody on your team who has adopted and
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have gone through that process, utilizing
that team member calling him over there.
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And we had a situation where a
Jessica, who actually we did the podcast
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with a couple of months ago,
was on the sidewalk and there was a
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mom at that point where she was
considering adoption. She actually had her daughter
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that she had adopted with her.
Jessica did Deskid, Jessica absolutely and she
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was able to share with her the
adoption story introduce her to her daughter and
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man, that went a long way. Powerful. Yeah, that's so powerful.
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So utilize team members. And then
the final one, and this is
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one of the most important, rest
assured that the Holy Spirit will do the
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work. Yeah, I had a
new volunteer today that she was calling out
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for her very first time today and
I said just say one sentence and I'll
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take over after just one thing.
And she said the one thing and then
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I said now expand on that.
Now say two things and said I'm just
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so afraid I'll say the wrong thing. We hear that all the time.
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I said, honestly, truly,
the Holy Spirit will do the work,
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even if you say the wrong thing. You're here in obedience to God.
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You are fulfilling what he has called
you to do. He will equip you.
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Yeah, don't fear. Yeah,
it's yeah. Amen. That's kind
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of brings us back around to trusting
the Holy Spirit. Yeah, this is
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a Holy Spirit driven work. Anything
that we do for the Lord should be
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Holy Spirit driven. Right, Bible
says that which is of flesh produces flesh,
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that which is of the spirit produces
life. So we want to produce
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life. We want to see Jesus
Glorified, we want his Gospel to go
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forth, we want hearts to be
changed, lives to be saved, people
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to be saved from their sin.
Yeah, and it's not going to come
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just through we've given you guys some
some practical strategies and the tips, and
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they're good, but ultimately the Holy
Spirit reserves the right to supersede all of
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this right and so you've got to
be led by him. You've got to
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be walking with him. We always
say to our volunteers and to our side
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want missionaries. You can't give what
you don't have. So you need to
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be walking closely with the Lord,
be intentionally pray through and encourage our volunteers.
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It's I want missionaries to pray through
the whole armor of God, putting
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on the armor of God and and
the Bible says that we can stand when
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we put on the armor of God
and we can stand against the wiles of
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the devil. We can stand against
even our own flesh that sometimes wants to
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take over, and in God will
give us wisdom in these situation. So
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we would encourage you guys with that. Hoope this was a blessing to you
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guys. Hope that you will share
this podcast. Hope that you will leave
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reviews for us on your podcast.
We've shared in the past some of the
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awesome reviews that we've gotten, some
from some of our pro abortion opposition.
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Some of those are fun, but
we want to hear some real reviews from
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you guys. What do you think
about the podcast? Reach out to us.
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You can reach out to me,
D D parks at city for lifecom,
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her vcasse Org at cities for lifecom's
a matter of fact. Make it
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easier, we have love life email
addresses. Now. Yeah, those are
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easier. Those are a little easier. So it's Daniel A, Love Life
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Dot Org, Vicky and love life
dot org, the IC Ky. Yeah,
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and you can reach out to the
US through those email addresses as well.
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Yeah, either way, we're going
to GE get the email. We've
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gotten a few emails from people with
suggestions on podcast encouragement from some of the
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content that we've put out there,
and we appreciate that. So feel free
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to reach out, but until next
time, God bless give me our love
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for love, give me our love
for gratitude. I know it will cost
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me my life. Nothing's too precious
and some you