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But what happens with a big,
steamy parliamoneure? Well, it attracts,
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sadly, flies and other tracks flies
of all kinds. Yeah, I am
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yours, I am yours, I
am yours, and welcome to the Gospel
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Center Pro Life Podcast, and this
episode we're going to talk about three parables,
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some biblical and some maybe extra biblical, that will help you as a
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sidewall counselor or any other pro life
ministry you're involved in. So stay tuned.
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Send Me, Lord, I felt
show Passish, touch your heart.
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Use Me. Welcome to the Gospel
Center pro life podcast. We appreciate you
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guys listening and we'd appreciate if you
guys would share these podcasts. We hope
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they're blessing to you. And we're
going to cover a subject today that I
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think will be particularly applicable to sidewall
counseling, but could be applicable to a
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lot of other prolife ministries. However, think one of the things we've discovered
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is that, since our wheelhouse is
sidewall counseling, it's why i's to focus
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there. It's just what we know
and we try to broaden and generalize as
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much as possible to help. Bless
anybody who may be listening who works with
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a pregnancy center or in any other
kind of pro life ministry or just in
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general's and it's interested in pro life
talk topics. But in our vein sidewalk
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counseling, I think we think we
probably are better to stay in that vein.
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But this topic, as it applies
her life ministry, is kind of
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a biblical train of thought in that
we're talking about parables that really help us
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in Ministry, parables that give us
good pictures. In this what parables do,
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right, they give us a picture, yeah, kind of an everyday
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picture of whatever we're involved in to
help us, I guess, bring it
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down to Earth. Sure, because
Jesus did that all the time. Eight
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he taught lessons through stories. Yeah, he did, and so that's what
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we're going to do. We're actually
going to try to just talk through a
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couple of stories, a couple of
biblical scenarios, maybe some scenarios that are
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maybe extra biblical, not in a
bad way they use, but very us
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paint to picture right. Yeah,
the Lord actually helps me a lot of
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times with giving me pictures and analogies
and things like that. That helped me
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to say, Oh, yeah,
that's how this works. And you know,
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analogies of course break down at some
point. Parables breakdown at some point,
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but again, they are helpful in
Jesus, like you said, use
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parables all throughout and and they can't
help us to just come to terms with
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certain realities and connect certain dots to
better understand. Yeah, that's actually yeah.
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So we're going to be just mentioned
in three parables, and each of
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these parables fits into a certain aspect
of prolife ministry. Again, in particular
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sidewalk counseling and what I was going
to deal with, the philosophy of sidewall
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counseling, the practice of sidewalk counseling. And the third one deals with the
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purpose and the primary goal. Yeah, of PSIDE. So three peas and
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that great for you guys, or
piece, if you count primary for piece.
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Right. Yeah, so like how
we like to stay with that.
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We do like that. Literation is
philosophy practice, right, probably here you
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go. Yeah, because what's interesting
is how you came up with this idea,
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Daniel. Was She said these three
parables were kind of running through your
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head and you hadn't really quite tied
together, like why? But as we
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were working through this, it became
very apparent. One was talking about the
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philosophy, the underpinning of why we
do what we do. Another was how
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we do what we do or the
practice of of what we do, and
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then the third one why we do
what we do it. It was kind
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of interesting. How how that that
really gives you a whole picture of a
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pro life ministry. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and of course I believe
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throughout our podcasts we've probably touched on
every one of these stories, maybe not
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the last story that we're going to
talk about right, and the that analogy.
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What's I want you guys to be
ready for, because it's going to
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be really fun. Analogy. It's
not necessarily a BIBLICO analogy, but we
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do have a biblical analogy. We
do for our third third point here.
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Yeah, but let's hop into philosophy
of sidewalk counseling and the parable that,
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I think really in the beginning of
cities for life and the model of our
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ministry is kind of fueled what we
do and shaped what we do and kind
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of given us the framework for not
just that well counseling but just this ministry
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in general. Yeah, and and
before you get into that, I why
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is philosophy so important? And I
remember when I started home schooling I was
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completely at a loss. I didn't
want to. It was really I was
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almost forced to, but a very
wise mentor told me the first thing that
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you need to do. I'm overwhelmed
with all the things to get set to
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start homeschooling, something I had never
even heard of before I started it.
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She said the first thing you need
to do is develop your philosophy of homeschooling.
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Yeah, so philosophy kind of guides
everything else, everything that you do.
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So it's a great place, I
think, for us to start.
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Yeah, you know, I think
one of the things also is not only
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that philosophy guides, but it also
sustains, and one of the reasons why
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I think a good philosophy of ministry, especially when you're involved in sidewalk counseling,
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sidewalk out reach ministry, because it
can be such a and intense ministry.
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Yeah, spiritual warfare. Interactions with
people are not always pause of it
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right, and so it's hard to
listen. We have people that come out
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that you know, their whole whole
philosophy of ministry people that come out to
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volunteer is they want to. They
want to save these poornessent women that save
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the world. I'm going to save
the world. I found my purpose in
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life. Right. I want to
save these poor women from this terrible mistake
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all abortion. Right. I want
to save these babies, which you know.
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Both of those, you know,
often what I say the enemy of
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the best. It's always the good. Right. So it's good to save
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women from the destructive nature of abortion, to save babies, of course,
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right. We believe that that's good. But is that the best? Now?
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Really the best is to bring Lord
to God. Right, our focus
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has to be on the Lord,
and in this parable I think Jesus sets
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things in their proper perspective, because
I won't say a bad philosophy of ministry,
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for Sidewalk Counseling is to love your
neighbor. It's not a bad that's
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not a bad philosophy. That's actually
a good philosophy of ministry to love our
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neighbor. But the best philosophy of
ministry is to love God, and then
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out of that flows a love for
your neighbor. You know, Jesus talks
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about the two great commands and what
are they? What's Love The Lord,
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your God with all your heart,
mind, soul and strength. Right?
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And then he says the second command
is like unto the first. That means
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they're tied together, right, and
which is love your neighbor as yourself.
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And I'll say you can't actually properly
love your neighbor until you first love God.
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If you love your neighbor first,
your motivation is flipped on its head,
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it's upside down. The Cart is
before the horse. Our love for
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our neighbor has to flow out of, first and foremost, our love for
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God, because if you love your
neighbor and that's the primary focus, you'll
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end up either compromising the truth,
compromising the Gospel, or you end up
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going to some other radical extreme.
You know. So you want to make
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sure our love for God is first, and that's where our philosophy of ministry
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really is important, again, not
just to get us out there and to
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keep us, but to sustain us, because you can get burned out and
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you know, if you have a
mentality, and you know it well,
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when you you know you can come
out here, you're going to save these
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poor innocent women from the terrible,
the destructive nature of abortion and you find
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out, well, not all these
women are poor innocent victims. They're actually
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fairly vile and say say them things
to you there show that they're not just
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poor innocence to them don't want to
be saved, so that you get burned
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really quick if that's your philosophy of
ministry. So it's a love for God
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first. So let's jump into the
parable that we have first, as it
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pertains to a philosophy of ministry,
and that is Luke chapter ten. We've
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shared this with you guys before,
which is the heart of our ministry.
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And Verse Twenty Five, and this
is Jesus sharing with a man's who said,
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teacher, what shall I do to
inherit eternal life? And that's when
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he talks about the two great commands. Love the Lord, your God,
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with all your heart, with all
your mind, and love your neighbor as
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yourself. And then the man asked, who is my neighbor? And then
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Jesus share this parable. And this
is in Luke Chapter Ten, starting in
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Verse Twenty Five, he begins to
share the parable in verse thirty and says
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a certain man went down from Jerusalem
to Jericho and fell among thieves who stripped
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him of his clothing, wounded him
and departed, leaving him half dead.
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So here's this man who is left
half dead, naked in the ditch and
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then, of course the parable goes
on. The levite sees this man,
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passes by on the other side,
the priest sees this man passes by on
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the other side and then a Samaritan
comes and the Samaritan sees the man,
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looks on him with compassion and then
goes into the ditch to get him out.
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And that is again the philosophy of
our ministry is to go into the
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ditch, right, but it has
to be motivated by love for God first,
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because in line with this this parable, that's what Jesus talking about,
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right. But we're not just going
and talking to the man in the ditch,
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we're not just praying about the man
of the ditch, right, we're
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not just getting the community excited about
doing something about the man into the ditch
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problems. Someone else to go take
care of that man. And I did
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here. Am I send someone else
here? I'm high. Send them here.
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My send the politicians. I mean, if you think about a lot
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of government deal with that man the
ditch. But let the government. We
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need to Hey, we've got to
do something about the man in the ditch.
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Let's bring it before the city council. Right, not that any of
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that is bad, but a Christian
that sees a person in the ditch is
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not just going to vote about the
man in the ditch problem, they're going
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to actually got into the ditch.
And so that's what a sidewalk counselor does
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and that's what we've done as a
ministry's we go to the ditches in our
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society, which are the abortion clinics. Yes, and in this case,
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of course, that baby is the
one in the ditch and that mother is
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the one in the ditch. So
we want to go to them, we
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want to with our voices, try
to get them out of the ditch with
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the resources and things put them on
our animal. That's the picture, right,
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Yep. And so he what does
he do? He goes to the
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man in the ditch, he gets
him out of the ditch, cleans off
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his wounds, and so that's that's
the picture of US sharing the Gospel.
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What's the wound? What covers this
person in sores and and and despair?
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It's sin. There's right and yeah, so we should the Gospel. Yeah,
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and then we put them on our
animal and sometimes that literally means put
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them in our vehicle, driving them
to a pregnancy center, driving them to
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a maternity home, which is the
end, right. It's the picture.
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Yeah, take them to an end, provide for their knees until they get
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on their feet, and that's kind
of the philosophy of ministry. Right pertains
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to s right counsel. Yeah,
yeah, and that, and that,
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in the end, is the innkeepers
paid for the ongoing care through, through
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the good Smaritan, for the ongoing
care, and that's very analogous to as
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we pass these moms off to mentorship
programs through you, through our sister ministry
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love life, Charlotte, so that
the ongoing needs will be addressed. It's
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not just that we're going to buy
put a bandage on the wound, which
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is better than what some people do, but that's not enough. That's not
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God says that's not enough. You
put the bandage on, you carried them
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to a place of healing and then
you provide the other ongoing yeah, one
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of the things that I'll say is
that you can't properly love your neighbor like
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you're supposed to unless you love God
first. Right, but you're not truly
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loving God if you're not loving your
neighbor. It's like those two are todd
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very closely together, because you you
can say you love God all day long
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and leave your neighbor in the ditch. Look at the priest in the Levi.
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What do they do? Well,
they're the religious people, but they
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don't care about the man of the
ditch. Matter of fact, they pass
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by on the other side of the
road. Did they truly love God?
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Right, yeah, Morsel, that
was it was evidenced in the fact that
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they walk abound the other side of
the road that they didn't truly love God.
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Yes, I always found it curious
that the the man, the the
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rich man who is talking to Jesus, asking him or talk, talking with
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him, and he has loved God, apparently, he says, but that
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he asks who is my neighbor?
I always thought that that was an interesting
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question. Who is my neighbor?
I wondered. Was He trying to like,
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limit who he would go and Save, or was he truly wondering?
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Did he really have no clue,
like what parameters God would put on who,
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you know, was his neighbor or
not his neighbor? Yeah, I
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mean the Bible doesn't tell us why
he asked that question and so we can
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speculate on why. But Jesus certainly
did so. If there were some parameters
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that this man had put on who
was his neighbor, j'sus certainly tore all
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that down by introducing a Samaritan into
the picture. That's right, and affected
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in the enemy, yeah, of
Jewish society at that time. Yeah,
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it's. And then he he sort
of in a sense, well, and
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not just in the sense, just
outright pits this Samaritan, who's just an
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everyday nobody kind of guy and again
dejected by Jewish people, against the priests
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and the Levites, who were supposed
to be like the Pinnacle of human existence
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in the Jewish mindset. And he
pits them against each other and said,
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okay, this is the guy that
pleased God. These guys did right,
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right, and the neighbor was that
kind of the ditch, someone in,
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you know, a very compromise,
vulnerable position. So your neighbor is not
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necessarily someone that you know you're going
to go bring them a pizza. UN
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He'll, he'll bring you a pizza
the next day it's someone that there's no
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anticipation of any kind of reward from
that person in the ditch, say and,
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and I think that paints a very
perfect and analogous picture to the unborn
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babies and these women, who are
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Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
Well, this next one, I
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think could be, believe, the
philosophy one. That's really important. Yeah,
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understand that we're supposed to love God
first. Forget that. This is
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not just about love for the man
in the ditch. is about love for
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God and because of that we meet
the needs of the man and that that's
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right. Mom and the baby are
demonstrating our love for God. Dies actually
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treat our NA. The second one
is really practical. Yes, this is
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a picture that the Lord kind of
spoke to my heart and many p people
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use this. This scripture, proverbs
thirty one, verses eight nine, as
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it pertains to Sidewall councling ministry.
But I think there's some particulars in this
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scripture that really help us and this
analogy. As you know, I'm really
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kind of maybe stretching the analogy,
and so you guys call me out if
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you think I'm taking it too far, but I think it really fits in
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so many ways with sidewalk counseling,
with abortion minded women, with the abortion
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industry, and so let's hop into
it. It's proverbs thirty one, eight
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and nine. You guys have heard
me quote this a thousand times and you'll
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hear two thousand more. But it's
open your mouth for the speechless, in
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the calls or the case of all
who are appointed to die, open your
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mouth, judge righteously and plead the
cause of the poor and needy. Yeah,
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so one of the things that sticks
out immediately to me, and probably
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would stick out to most American Christians, is the word judge. We're told
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not to judge. That's matter of
fact. That's one of the worst things
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that you can be accused of judging
people right, not by the Bible but
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by by others. Yeah, but
you're too modern, you're not a Christian,
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because you're told Thou shall not judge. Right, Corsi's valid. I've
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even heard it in perfect King James
English. Ok, vout, shalt not
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judgeth right. Yeah, it's one
of the ten commandments of her that one's
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well, yeah, really is it? I haven't read that. Yeah,
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but this analogy in this this scripture
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that's what we do in sidewalk counseling. We've open our mouth. We literally
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speak for those that can't speak for
themselves. Right. But notice, as
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I was reading through this, it
says open your mouth for the speechless in
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the calls. And jumped in there
and said the case, because that word
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cause can also mean case. And
the analogy really here is there is a
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person who's innocent, who is scheduled
to die, who's before a judge that's
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Harshan to die. Yeah, before
a judge, before a judge, and
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that judge is going to condemn that
person to die, right, and there's
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someone pleading, yeah, the case. Yeah, you know, we use
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the term sidewalk counselors and we're talking
about we did a podcast about that a
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long time ago. What is styble
counseling? You guys listen to that?
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and I think I mentioned this in that
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podcast, is not just us sit
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that, yes, but also has
to do with like legal counsel. Yeah,
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you know, when you watch shows, if you've watched, you know,
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lawyer shows, in these law and
order shows, you know they say
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counsel. What do you get to
say about this? That's how the attorney
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is referred to as counsel, right, because they're not just counseling there,
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they're they're defendant. There, they're
actually, on behalf of that defendant,
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giving counsel to the judge and actually
pleading with the judge. Yeah, they're
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being an advocate, they are advocating
for the life of their client. Yeah,
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absolutely. So how does that fit
in with sidewalk counseling? And what's
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the what's the analogy? Well,
here's the analogy. That baby is the
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innocent person that scheduled to die.
That's a pointed. According to this point,
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it's right to Anna cannot speak,
that that I'm born child cannot speak.
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And who is the judge in this
analogy? Let's look. This is
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an interesting part, because you guys
might be tempted to think right aways you're
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thinking about a judge. Okay,
WHO's the judge? God, at my
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first thing. So it's got,
but it's not. It's more even,
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okay, the abortionist. That's the
judge. Yeah, I even think that
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that would be the case. So
who are we pleading our case to,
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to tip the balance, to bring
justice? Who are? Yeah, and
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so the picture is here, guys, that we're appealing to someone right,
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as the judge, as the one
who can slam down the galvel and say
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innocent or guilty, right, the
one that can can give a sentence,
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as the car you're set for you, right, exactly. Yeah, and
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that person in this analogy, when
you're dealing with a woman going into the
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abortion clinic, is the woman that's
right, she is the judge. Yeah,
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she is the judge in the jury. She's the one that gets the
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determined. Unfortunately, the way that
the laws are set up in this country
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is that she can choose to kill
her child through abortion. She can do
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that and not it's not right before
God, but in the situation that we're
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given in front of an abortion clinic, she can walk on in those doors,
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and so we've got to do it. So we've got to appeal to
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her, yeah, just like we
appeal to a judge. Now I want
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you, guys, to listen real
closely to this, because this is really
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important, because there's there's a mentality
of people that go out to abortion clinics
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that think I just show up and
I just say whatever comes out of my
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mouth, and that's great and listen, understand that and I appreciate those,
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those first steps of faith and stepping
out. Yeah, but if you're thinking
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about it, I believe in these
biblical terms, and if that mother really
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is the judge, are you just
going to show up in a court room
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and there's a judge who you hate? Might be a selfish judge, he
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might be a left leaning liberal judge. But if you're before that judge and
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you're supposed to be an attorney and
you know there's a person that scheduled to
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die, that judge can slam down
the gavel and say guilty, are you
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going to speak aggressively to that judge? You're going to speak in a way
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that will hopefully again make your case
and make that judge want to listen to
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your case. So of course you're
not going to speak in a way that's
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going to turn that judge off.
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here is how is that person supposed
to judge righteously? Yeah, and so
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as you are pleading that case,
you need to be your please, your
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advocacy needs to point that Judge to
righteousness. Yeah, and where do we
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find that? In the word of
God and the word of God and God's
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Word and God's truth. If you
think about it, though, this analogy
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goes as far as even if you're
a lawyer and you're advocating on behalf of
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that child to that judge, what
are some what's some of the things that
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lawyers use in order to prove that
their client is not guilty and doesn't deserve
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the death penalty? Yeah, well, they use facts, for sure,
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and they use facts that that will
show that that client is in innocent and
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that that client, like deserve today
evidence, you know, I have have
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evidence be a you know, think
number of the different pieces of evidence that
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they have and you know, I
think those kind of tie into the three
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talking points that we use in our
side wall accouncil training, which are what
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God says about this, what God
says about the baby, the mom,
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abortion, all of that, and
then the humanity of the baby and the
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resources that are available. So you're
like to the judge you're trying to appeal
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and say, well, God says
this child is valuable, God says your
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circumstances not too hard you know,
if you're appealing to the mother. Yeah,
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so what God says about it is
is a piece of evidence that's try
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the humanity of the baby, because
the judge, the mother in this scenario,
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doesn't actually believe the baby is a
human being in some level. Right,
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she's been convinced, she's believed some
lies, and so we're going to
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combat those lies with evidence and we're
going to say your baby is precious,
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judge, this baby doesn't deserve this, this innocent person doesn't deserve to die.
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First of all, I've got to
establish that it's a person, right,
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yeah, and so who's that is
evidence? Has a heart that's already
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beating, maybe has brainways six weeks, all the human DNA they'll ever have
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at the moment of conception, and
then, of course, the resources.
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Here's all this evidence of why this
child doesn't have to die, why this
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innocent person doesn't have to die.
Know, you think the situation is such,
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and we're appealing again to the mother, who is the judge in the
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situation. You think it's such that
this baby has got to die, this
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person is just got to die,
because look at all these circumstances. But
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look at the rest sources. Look
at these is evidence of the resources that
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show you that your circumstance is not
impossible. That's right, and so so
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a good lawyer is always rational and
logical, but I think all and I
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think that speaks to what you have
just described. But I will say a
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good lawyer also does appeal to the
emotions in that heap, he or she
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presents a case that sways you so
that you sense rightness and wrongness. It's
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good and he's little, and and
so there are some things that we say
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that are true facts, because we
would never lie, but that also do
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appeal to the natural maternal instincts of
a mother. For example, one that
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really at least moves me is your
baby has vocal courts developed by twelve weeks
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and that baby can cry in the
womb. And I say that not only
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as a fact and evidence, but
also there's an emotional picture that's painted when
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you say a baby can cry in
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I think anyone with a shred of
maternal instinct is going to be moved
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by that sort of a statement.
So I do think that's that's an important
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part of good sidewalk advocacy. Yeah, yeah, one of the things that
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I'll say. You know, it's
true that at the moment of conception,
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this is like medical fact, right, so we use medical science, right,
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that that may be at the moment
of conception is a unique human being.
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So I'll say that, but also
will appeal to the emotions by playing
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on that fact and say there has
never been, nor will there ever be,
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another person like that baby you carry
in your womb. Right, that's
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a that's a true statement, but
I'm using terminology and words that will appeal
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to her her emotions. Right,
an emotional appeal, and to imagine that
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emotional appeals are invalid because they're not
based in science or the word of God
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is is ridiculous. We give emotional
appeals all the time and emotional appeals should
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be given. I mean it's sort
of like it's part of our humanity,
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is that we have these emotions.
God appeals to his people, and you
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look through the prophets, how God
emotionally appeals to the children of Israel turned
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back to him. He pours out. Look what I've done? I stretch
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out my hands all day long to
a wicked and obstinate people. Yeah,
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and you get this this picture of
God being so weary with always reaching out
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and we're not returning and we're not
coming to him, or he gathers them
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as a hen. Yeah, gather's
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of course, if all of our
advocacy, if all of our as an
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attorney on behalf of that baby is
just wrapped up in emotions, well,
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we're going to miss the mark.
They're right, right. Their emotions,
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though, on the other hand,
they're definite, definitely, I definitely agree
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with you that that is only a
very small portion of what we do.
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But their emotions have already been worked
upon in a way that against the case
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for the baby. Yeah, absolutely, by the abortion industry. Oh,
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you'll be so much better off with
without this child, all those dreams and
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goals that you have. And yes, you really are too poor and unable
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and and just think how much better
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we want to work on emotions righteously
and with facts, but emotions that are
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going to again sway them to truly
regard their child the way that God,
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which desired they regard there absolutely ought
me all of this and of course,
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if you guys are listened, listen
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just make make emotional appeals. We're
appealing from the word of God. That's
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right, and we ought to have. The word of God is what changes
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a heart, not just emotions or
whatever, but God in his word does
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make emotional appeals. Jesus makes emotional
appeals and and we see this all through
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the scripture and again as counselors on
behalf of that baby, as attorneys on
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behalf of that baby, we're we're
appealing to the mother and she have to
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think about this, because there are
folks that come out to an abortion center
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like I've mentioned, who just set
up and they just preach and they,
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you know, bring a message of
repent and I get it. I understand
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that and I'm not against a message
of repentance. We're going that's the goal.
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We're aiming for repentance. Want to
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they'll repent. But that's that's the
key. We want them to see their
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sin. If all you do is
say repent and you've not laid out the
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case for why abortion is sin,
yeah, then they don't really know what
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they are repenting of. Yeah,
yeah, they don't really understand what you're
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saying. Yeah, yeah, because
I've had people here in Charlotte stand in
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front of the abortion clinic on the
sidewalk and literally just yell repent, repent.
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Okay, that you have to first
of all explain what you're talking about
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when you're saying repent, right,
because it is a word commonly used in
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church circles, and it should be. It's a biblical word. Yeah,
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but there's also a corresponding explanation with
the word repent. It means to turn
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away from what you're doing to something
else, and so I think we need
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to be very explanator. We're talking
about repenting when you're walking into an abortion
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clinic. What is it to repent? What's to stop in your tracks,
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to turn around and go the other
way? And repentance can mean coming over
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and talking to US sidewalk counselor and
of course it does mean leaving the abortion
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clinic. Right, right. So
again we're appealing to that mother. She
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is the judge, like it or
lump it, in this situation. She
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is the one that could slam down
that galvel and say this shold is guilty
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condemned to death. Yeah, and
you know what? We can call in
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other witnesses. Now, that is
yeah, necessarily in analogy goes along,
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Wi me tell you. But I'm
thinking as you're talking that yes, she
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is the judge, but there are
people do influence the judge in a real
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court room and in the courtroom of
the abortion center, there are other witnesses
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that you can call in. And
and I'm not talking about just other sidewalk
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counselors, but the other people that
can influence that woman and and and it's
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largely the father of the baby,
if the father the baby's on your side,
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friends, drivers, the mother,
the abortion minded mom, whatever,
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there are other people who could be
called in. Their testimony could be called
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upon to also sway that judge.
Yeah, mother absolutely in which which way
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she's going to get. And if
you think about it, we've seen this
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play out a lot many times.
Young man standing out there shooting the breeze,
421
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waiting for their girlfriend to have the
abortion and come back out. And
422
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I'll try to appeal to him,
if I can win him over and convince
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him it, lay out a case
to him and win him over to become
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a witness on behalf of that baby. See how this analogies. It's so
425
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good. And if I can get
him to be a witness on behalf of
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that baby, my words could just
fall to the ground, but his words
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will have far more weight than mine. Yeah, and he can convince the
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judge. Right, hey, judge, and I mean let's think about it.
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What if, for example, this
is the judge's sister, if you
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could have a listen, if you
were going to go before a judge as
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a lawyer and plead the case for
an innocent person, what if you were
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good friends with a judge's sister?
You think maybe you can put in a
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good word, you know, you
think maybe you can do some kind of
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behind the scenes talking, you know, and maybe talking a little bit of
435
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underhand and stuff here, but which
we would do, but wouldn't do.
436
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But in the scenario when we've got
an abortion on abortion engaged woman inside the
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abortion in those in her sisters out
in the parking lot waiting for her,
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if I can convince her, Hey, go in there and influence of going
439
00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:56.019
there and influence this mother. Yeah, and talk to her, tell her
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that will help her, tell her
that her baby is precious. I mean
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we have literally seen this play out, absolutely and we've seen lives safe because
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we're taking the time to try to
influence witnesses on behalf of that baby.
443
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Yeah, I got another good one. This is so good, so so
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all judges are impressed by the attorneys, the advocates, who can say you
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must make this decision because of some
precedent. Yeah, right, absolutely so.
446
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As I'm thinking about our abortion minded
mom so often we see them walk
447
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in with another child. There's a
child in the car, there's and so
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the precedent is you gave life,
you brought to term that other baby that's
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in the back seat of your car. Does that baby have value? Do
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you love that baby? Is that
baby precious? was that baby precious from
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the moment of conception? All of
which she'd have to answer yes, logically.
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Well, the precedent has been set. Yeah, you know the value
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of your children. Yeah, and
that baby in the womb. And even
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the precedent of the faithfulness of God. That's how I will mention that.
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Wasn't called faithful whenever you are pregnant
with this child and he carried you through
456
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and you're here today in that child
of blessing. Yeah, even sharing testimonies
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again, testimony, yeah, of
people who we've encountered that have chosen life
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in similar situations to that mother.
Will help, right, it'll help sway
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the judge. So, anyway,
guess I hope this is a helpful analogy.
460
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Yeah, because again we're trying to
persuade the judge, who is the
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mother in this situation, that her
baby is innocent and doesn't deserve to die.
462
00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:34.309
Also, you don't want you to
think about how you would talk to
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a judge because again, I see
some some aggressiveness in front of abortion clinics
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where people are really aggressive and our
name calling, Our Name calling or whatever
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right they're doing. Yeah, think
about, though, you're standing in front
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of a judge and again, this
judge might be a total like, you
467
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know, in our world view,
left leaning total just has has no point
468
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of contact with you at all as
far as anything politically or whatever. Yeah,
469
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and you know, in any other
scenario you would just be in a
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very confrontational conversation with this person calling
out all their wrongs. But if you're
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standing before them and they're the judge
and there's an innocent person that's that can
472
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potentially die, you're going to speak
a little softer. Well, in an
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actual court room, you rise,
you call them your honor and you treat
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them with absolute respect, and I
think that is again biblical. I think
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we are called to treat each other
with respect. That's parts being a good
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neighbor and and honoring God. And
how more important went in this analogy.
477
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If the person you're trying to influence, if you're disrespectful to them, that
478
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they have no reason to trust you
or to listen to you in their mind.
479
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Yeah, and I've even seen,
let's just take again this analogy.
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You're standing in a court room,
you're an attorney on behalf of a person
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that you know is innocent and you're
appealing to the judge and you begin to
482
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get aggressive and you began to get
like condemning toward the judge and that judge
483
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speeds up the trial and says,
you know what, Hey, guilty.
484
00:33:04.089 --> 00:33:07.809
That's exactly right, and that happens
a lot. I've seen it in front
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of the abortion clinic here in Charlotte, other abortion clinics, where you have
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a mom that's walking in slowly,
she's walking from her car to the door,
487
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and you've got someone who's calling out
of that person in an aggressive way.
488
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That's just overthe top. Don't go
in there and murder your child.
489
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You're a murderer if you have an
abortion. and that woman speeds up said
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she laps the gambled down even quicker. She's not considering it's almost like you've
491
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pushed the judge to go ahead and
make a decision, whereas she would actually
492
00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.750
consider your evidence if you would just
be patient, slow down a little bit,
493
00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:44.500
speak a little soft, little more
softly. Appeal to them. And
494
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again it's ultimately it's the Lord that's
going to change the heart. But we
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have to be working alongside what the
Lord is doing. Right in the Lord
496
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is gracious and compassionate, he's slow
to anger and rich and loving kindness.
497
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Doesn't mean he doesn't get angry,
he certainly does. But the anger of
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Man Does Not work the righteousness of
God. The Bible says, and you
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know, I'll tell folks, listen, if there's any plays where it's justifiable
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to get angry and to just lose
your mind, it's a it's in front
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of the abortion clinic. I get
it, I understand that, but it's
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not helpful because you're going to you're
not going to persuade that judge. Matter
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of fact, you might push that
judge to make a premature decision. That's
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right. And and the executioner is
the abortionist. Yeah, and and the
505
00:34:30.389 --> 00:34:34.750
and that's it's life for death.
It's very important. It's very important what's
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happening at there. Yeah. So
that analogy is very helpful in so many
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ways and there's so many other aspects
that we could bring into play here,
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but I hope it helped you.
Guys. We's pop into our next one.
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Yeah, Pres Primary Goal, yeah, purpose, the purpose and primary
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goal, and primary goal is so
important because in in any pro life ministry,
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no matter what kind of pro life
ministry you're in, there are all
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kinds of competing things that take your
attention sometimes the way from that primary purpose
513
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and to the point where it can
destroy a ministry if it becomes so fragmented,
514
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so distracted, and I think maybe
no place more so than at that
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place of life and death, right. Yeah, yeah, and this is
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at the abortion center, literally the
last moments, that's right before that judge,
517
00:35:23.829 --> 00:35:29.510
that's right, gonna Slam that gavel
and say guilty. Yeah, death,
518
00:35:29.949 --> 00:35:31.949
the death penalty. Yeah, and
so that's why there are no appeals?
519
00:35:31.989 --> 00:35:36.059
Yeah, there are any. There's
no appeals into yes, taken.
520
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That's right, there's there's no appeal
to that. Yeah, and so we
521
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have to, you know, be
tactful in the way that we we speak
522
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to the judge, but we have
to also understand. Taking it to to
523
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a different analogy, which is a
fun analogy. Yeah, is that there's
524
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going to be distractions. Abortion is
the devil's pride and joy. Yeah,
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00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:57.530
if you're in front of an abortion
clinic, don't be surprised if the enemy
526
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sends distractions. And the picture I
give people is said, imagine the abortion
527
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clinic and imagining just abortion in general
is a big steamy pile of manure.
528
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:14.199
Okay, because it's bad and it's
stinks, it's a mess. It is
529
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and we've been called by God to
clean up the mess, right, and
530
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.590
we're using our gospel shovels because we
know that the Gospel is the only thing
531
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that's going to clean up the mess. That's or shovels, I like.
532
00:36:23.630 --> 00:36:28.389
Do you like that? Or using
our Gospel Shovels, may by act me
533
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company and makes all the good stuff, and we're there to clean up the
534
00:36:31.469 --> 00:36:37.099
mess, right, and we're keeping
our head down and we're scooping. It's
535
00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:38.579
a big mess and we're going to
be busy for a long time, because
536
00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:42.500
you for a while. Yeah,
but what happens with a big steamy Polo
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00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.699
maneure? Well, it attracts,
sadly, flies and other tracks. Flies
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00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:51.409
of all kinds. Yeah, and
this is kind of funny. It attracts
539
00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:54.449
flies. You know, there's green, shiny kind horse flies. Yeah,
540
00:36:54.489 --> 00:36:59.409
they just common household fly. Oh, kind of flies. It attracts in
541
00:36:59.570 --> 00:37:02.039
flies. They come for all different
kinds of reasons. Some come to eat,
542
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.800
yeah, some come to lay eggs, some clump come just because everybody
543
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.079
else is going. Some are well
meaning flies, they want to help you
544
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.400
clean up the mess, but they're
flies nonetheless. And see what I use
545
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.230
this analogy? It's because we as
Gospel centered side of all counselors, s
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00:37:20.429 --> 00:37:23.989
blers, shovelers, shovelers will get
distracted and spat and flies. Right.
547
00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:29.030
Yeah, and when you get distracted
in Swaton flies and when, example,
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00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.980
is pro abortion people, yeah,
people that are coming out there that escorts,
549
00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:37.099
you know, counter air quotes,
counter protesters. They want to try
550
00:37:37.099 --> 00:37:40.820
to get you distracted and talking to
them. And I've seen pro lifers.
551
00:37:40.820 --> 00:37:45.210
I'll listen. I've done it myself
where I let those people, the pro
552
00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.409
abortion people, be the focus.
They're out there in their bright vests and
553
00:37:47.730 --> 00:37:51.889
and I just abhor what they stand
for. But because they stand for murder
554
00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.570
and they're so deceived and you so
desperately want to sell on, sometimmer just
555
00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:59.159
nasty and s they say things push
your buttons. Yeah, and you get
556
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distracted. Yeah, and even though
you were appealing to that mother. This
557
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is one of the reasons why distractions
are just not a not a good thing,
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00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.280
in distractions in this way specially.
You know you've graciously appealed to that
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abortion minded mom. She's gone into
the abortion clinic. She's considered what you
560
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said. She's gone on into the
abortion clinic. She might actually come back
561
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out and talk you, who knows. Meanwhile, you've gotten distracted swaton flies.
562
00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.190
You're arguing with a pro abortion advocate, and that woman who saw you
563
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as she was going in you're really
nice and kind and she's thinking maybe I
564
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want to go out there and talk. Now looks out the window and see
565
00:38:30.699 --> 00:38:32.739
you're out there fighting with one of
the pro abortion people, and so the
566
00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:37.380
same stuff she's got going on her
heart, the confusion, the ants,
567
00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:39.179
the anger she's seen out there on
the sidewalk and she's like, well,
568
00:38:39.619 --> 00:38:42.690
they got nothing more than what I
got going on. I'm not going to
569
00:38:42.769 --> 00:38:45.449
talk to that person. I don't
need to listen or you know, and
570
00:38:45.730 --> 00:38:49.170
if you think about it, what's
happened in that scenario? With this analogy?
571
00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:52.570
You've dropped your shovel, yeah,
and you've dropped it in the manure
572
00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:54.409
and it's splashed up on you.
That's right. You know you'RE gonna pick
573
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up a dirty show. Yeah,
you can pick up over your hands and
574
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239
it's going to slip in, slide, and you have lost your effectiveness.
575
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.119
Yeah, absolutely. So that's why
I've got to be careful. Also,
576
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.599
and I've seen it, where you'll
attract, remember I said, some well
577
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meaning flies. There's some quote,
pro lifers or whatever that come out there,
578
00:39:12.670 --> 00:39:15.829
right, and the reality is there, just there because, hey,
579
00:39:15.829 --> 00:39:17.150
it looks like fun just to be
there. Yeah, and they end up
580
00:39:17.150 --> 00:39:22.030
being a distraction. Then you find
yourself arguing with them, arguing methodology,
581
00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:24.860
arguing theology, out in front of
the abortion clinic. And Listen, I'm
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00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.380
a theology Geek. Okay, I
read theology, I like theology. I
583
00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:34.099
study theology. Theology is important.
It does matter. Yes, the people
584
00:39:34.099 --> 00:39:37.690
that say theology doesn't matter don't know
their bibles. Theology does matter. But
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00:39:37.849 --> 00:39:43.250
arguing theology in front of an abortion
clinic is swaton flies. I'm telling you,
586
00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:45.329
it's Swat and flies. That can
be had in some other context.
587
00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:49.969
But again, if you're arguing with
your with each other, and I don't
588
00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.119
care what you say, you might
not be with that group or you may
589
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.000
say, well, we disassociate with
that group. But from an abortion minded
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00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.199
mom, again, that judge.
Looking from that side to the sidewalk where
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you are, she sees one group
of people. That doesn't matter how separated
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you are to matter if you've got
two different kinds of t shirts on both
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groups. Are All three groups,
or whatever they're standing on the on the
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pro life side of the sidewalk,
so to spam, are all one monolithic
595
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group to her. So if you're
fighting among yourselves, again you're displaying nothing
596
00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:23.260
but the same confusion, angst and
all that stuff that she's got going on
597
00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:28.460
her heart. And again, your
Swat and flies right. Another funny example
598
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is we have, and it's just
like so obvious this what this is.
599
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We have a man who at the
abortion clinic here, owns a business just
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around the corner right and he walks
through almost every day on his lunch hour
601
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and he just rails on us for
teaching false theology, for believing that God
602
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has triune so where houses her said
idolager's trinity? God worshippers and he wants
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to get in. Listen. I've
gotten in those conversations. I've talked to
604
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.679
him lengthy conversations for an hour.
But guess what, it was just Swat
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00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.150
and flies. He was just a
distraction that came to get me focused off
606
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of why I was there. You
know, when you feel called to go
607
00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:13.190
to an abortion clinic, that's a
that's a pretty unique calling. You know,
608
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for a lot of Christians it just
never would enter into the equation for
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them. I believe there's a lot
more Christians that are called out there than
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actually go. But when you got
that calling, understand you didn't. God
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didn't call you to go out then
reach the pro abortion escorts. He didn't
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call you to go out there and
reaches reach the security guard, even though
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they're all valuable. Exactly. They're
all I'm not I'm not equating them with
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flies because they're not valuable human being. It's just an analogy. So breaks
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down. They're human beings. They're
made in God's image. Yeah, God
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would save them in a moment if
they would turn to him. Yeah,
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but he didn't call you there to
reach them. They may get reached by
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kind of default. Right, you're
preaching the Gospel. They're here in the
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Gospel. Right, God could reach
they're seeing live solely. There are times
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when it's appropriate to have a conversation
with them. Right, but if you
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let them be the focus, you're
going to get distracted, you're going to
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Drop Your Shovel, your Gospel Shovel, in the mass, you're going to
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get the mess on you and it's
not going to go so well. Right,
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take it from me, learn from
Mama's Day. Don't get distracted Swat
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and flies. Now, what in
the world does this have to do with
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the Bible? And there are,
there are actually many, many examples in
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the Bible of leaders doing good work, doing good ministry, called by God,
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who get distracted by things that are
valuable and important. Yeah, and
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in doing so they their effectiveness in
their main ministry is dampened. YEA,
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so they it's like I said when
we started out, the good is always
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the enemy of the best. Right, right, get distracted, I get
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off course. And one of those
stories, yeah, is the story of
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Moses. Yeah, it's great,
great and great, you know, and
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probably more appropriate than than even your
maneuver and flies. Yeah, and maybe,
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maybe. And so where's that story
yet? Okay, so that.
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So that story is in exodus eighteen. Okay, exodus eighteen. And and
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really the story where Moses gets distracted
and how he learns to deal with that,
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based on Wise Council, is pretty
much in verses thirteen through twenty seven.
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Okay, well, I'm not going
to read all of that. You
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guys can read that. But base
through the picture is God called Moses to
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be a deliverer of the children of
Israel, right, to go down to
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Egypt to deliver his people. You
guys know the story the ten plagues.
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Ultimately, Moses leads the children of
Israel through the Wilderness. Yeah, but
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some things happen in the wilderness and
the children of is Alary, Israel,
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certainly got distracted, yeah, from
getting to the Promised Land. Yeah,
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yeah, and for forty years wandered
in the wilderness. Yeah, but Moses
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was called to lead them, was
called to lead them to the promised land.
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Right, right, but he gets
distracted. Yeah, they're grumbling,
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they have all kinds of complaints and
problems and they go to Moses and they
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and they say to Moses, because
he's the leader, solve these some of
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these problems. Yeah, I mean, he's got a lot of people,
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he's got and they want him.
Moses, we need you to sort through
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all of our issues. Right,
I've got an argument with my neighbor here.
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I need you to sort through there. Right. I've got a little
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bit of concern here with with the
law that you gave or some of these
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rules and stuff, and I'm not
really sure. Can you clarify here?
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Right, and you give some clearity
here. Can you speak into this situation?
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Yeah, and so Moses, though
he's called to deliver and lead the
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children of Israel through the Wilderness to
the Promised Land, is getting distracted with
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all kinds of other complaints and all
kinds of other concerns. So he's growing
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weary and he's growing overwhelmed. Not
Distraction can lead to many other terrible things,
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just absolute just being just overburdened.
And that was what happened with Moses.
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He was overburdened with all this and
he didn't even recognize it, which
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I think is interesting. It was
it was his fatherin law who recognized it.
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Moses himself was just doing his best
and screwing trying to solve all of
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this. Yeah, and what a
certain he's called on. Hey, you
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cannot do all this. Maybe.
Yeah, well, here it is.
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It's so. It says. So. When Moses Father in law saw all
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that he did for the people,
he said, what is this thing that
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you're doing for the people? Why
do you alone sit and all the people
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stand before you? Morning until evening? He's Tuking till he's name. That's
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not leading, that's standing there solving
all these varieties and rather than lead them
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through the Wilderness and really getting with
God, Getting Direction from the Lord,
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because that's what Moses was doing,
spending time with the Lord, get direction
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from him and being loved through the
wildern right, he's dealing with all these
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everyday quarrels with the people. Yeah, and Moses said to his father in
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law, because the people come to
me and it to inquire of God,
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so that we want you, Moses, to be the mediator between God.
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For us that's a good thing.
It's a good that's a great thing.
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Right. So is it the best? If, but is it the best?
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Right? And so Moses father in
law, goes on to say this
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is not a good thing. Yes, what you're doing is not. He's
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basically saying, Moses, you're getting
distractive from the main thing here. Yeah,
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you're dropping your shovel and renewer.
Right, getting the mess on you.
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Right. Is it good to reach
pro abortion people? Yeah, for
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the Lord, just as these good
right to be inquired. For the I
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mean Lord, if you're an in
front of an abortion for any amount of
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time, you'll get questions from people
that will try to distract you, especially
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talking to pro abortion people. I
mean I've had, quote, good conversation
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with the pro abortion people to about
theology, about the existence of God.
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But guess what I find out?
I'm sitting here talking to this person about
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whatever you want. I mean,
they'll take you around the mountain. You'll
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think, okay, I'm going to
reach this person right and listen, God
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can do it. So I'm not
discounting that. But you give every apologetic
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under the sun and you find out
you you've actually began and ended in the
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same place. Right, and we're
not listening to you. They were distracting
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you. And while you're having that
conversation with that pro abortion person, there's
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a mom that just zipped into the
driveway, just walked into the door of
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the abortion clinic, and she didn't
get any kind of Christian voice, no
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appeal to her, no ad because
all of your attention was focused on that
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probortion person. That's right, there's
no one speaking for that being. And
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the same way in this story with
Moses, he's poured into these people,
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he's sorting through their issues, they're
bringing their things before him and rather than
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being the deliver that he's called to
be, he gets distracted and becomes a
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judge between the people. Right,
jeth row ultimately gives him some wise counsel
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and says, Hey, you need
to find some other guys. They can
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do this, delegate to what you're
doing. Yeah, yeah, and so
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hopefully that helps you guys. That
picture helps you guys, because it can.
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You can easily get distracted out there
and there can be some delegation of
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things within sidewalk counseling. I mean, we've done it as far as we've
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got a big enough team. The
pro abortion people we know because we've read
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their training information. So we're cuted
into what they're doing. They're trying to
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get us in conversations. We know
it's because they want to distract us from
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engaging with board abortion minded women,
right. They say that in they're training.
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Yeah, and so we do is
kind of turn their tactic on them
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and we've got a big enough team, will send somebody to go and talk
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to them and get an endless conversation
so that if a vehicle stops, for
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example, they don't come and jump
in between the person talking to that lady
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in the car and interrupt the the
the conversation so that they drive on in.
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They're in a conversation with us,
right, and they don't want to
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pull away from it because we're trying
to be compelling. And Yeah, all
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that we're saying. And so we
were set kind of lovingated. We have
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delegated so that we can keep the
main thing, the main thing. Yeah,
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absolutely. Yeah, and I get
distracted by flies and a little curious
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about what those mate well meaning flies
are, the well meaning flies and,
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like I said, some of the
Christians that show up. Well, I
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I meant real well meaning flies.
I'm not familiar with that. Oh well,
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that was just part of the analogy. That's maybe we're actually breaks down.
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Okay, but again, the picture
is don't get distracted. Yeah,
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why are you there? Focus on
why you're there. So hopefully this helps
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you guys with sidewall counseling ministry and
maybe just pro life ministry in general.
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Yeah, these analogies help me.
For sure share these analogies with other people,
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especially the fun manure one, because
I'm yeah, it's Feah. I
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think it really helped. Yeah,
but the one about racing upside what consolers
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and training other sidewalk counselors. I
think those three year or any pro life
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ministry, I think those three areas
are all really really important to to keep
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in mind your philosophy, your practice
and your purpose. Yeah, and how
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to stay fact, absolutely purpose.
Absolutely the judge analogy really does help.
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It does. I can't get focused
on all you who were trying to reach
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there. You know we're trying to
say that innocent baby, but we're appealing
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to the judge. So hope these
were blessing. You guys. Share a
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little bit of feedback with us if
you want to shoot me an email.
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D Parks at cities for lifecom.
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Check out our sidewalks for life side. I think we're going to put this
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out as an article. Think it's
already and there you okay, yeah,
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on sidewalks for life. It's I'll
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podcast. Until next time, God
bless. Give me out love for love.
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Give me our love for gratitude.
I know it will cost me my
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love. Nothing's too precious in some
you