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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me,
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Lord, I am your Val.
Shall not judge. It's probably one of
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the most quoted or misquoted scriptures that
we hear in pro life ministry. But
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is this concept biblical? Are we
as Christians called to judge? Please take
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with us as we tackle the subject. I felt show passis touch your heart.
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Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life
podcast. We appreciate those who join
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us. In this episode. We're
going to talk about judgment. We're not
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going to talk about judging as sidewalk
counselors. That's probably one of the most
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quoted or misquoted scriptures in the entire
Bible when we talk to whether it's abortion
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minded women or even pro abortion people
or whoever it might be. Even some
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well meaning Christians might say, you
know, we're not supposed to judge.
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Of course we understand that right.
We want to, want to follow with
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the Bible says. Who Want to
honor the Lord and what we do,
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and so we're going to talk about
how we navigate through this thing because,
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you know, the modern, even
Christian perspective is like the worst possible thing
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you could do is to judge someone. At least the worst possible way we
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could be perceived is being perceived as
as judging. We don't want to be
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judgy. And even some churches,
of course, craft messages and and relevant
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talks rather than the preaching. They
be relevant talks and and try to come
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across as non judgmental. And so
let's talk this through then, Vickie,
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and again you know from the beginning
of this podcast, we want to talk
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things through based on the Bible,
not just based on you, the opinions
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of man, based on the opinions
of society or even based on the opinions
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of the of the modern church.
We want to do what we do and
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think the way that we think and
talk about the things that we talked about
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in light of the scripture, multimately
in light of the Gospel, right,
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which is how I have to say
honestly, when I was a brand new
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counselor out on this hidewalk there,
when I heard that, well, you're
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terrible Christian because you're judging others,
or the pro choice socalled pro choice,
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people would say you're you are a
hypocrite because you're judging, and they'd say,
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especially I was a hypocrite because I
was judging when I myself had had
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an abortion. Yeah, and,
and I must say I grappled with that.
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I it and and I did start
to scour the scripture and find out.
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Well, it seems to me we
are called to be here on the
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sidewalk and there's certainly versus. We've
gone over those in other podcasts that we
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tell us that we should be.
So are we to be on the sidewalk
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silent? Are we to be on
the sidewalk not pointing out good from evil,
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right from wrong? What? What
does the Bible say? So so
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I'm really glad we're having this podcast
because I will tell you it's one of
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the things new counselors that I train, new volunteers that I train, will
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they say, I don't quite know
how to answer this. So I think
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this is good because I think it
will help give them and and anyone involved
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in in pro life discussions with others, courage to make judgments. Yeah,
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yeah, know, so you know
this. This podcast is not just focused
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on sidewall counseling. Again, that's
their perspective we're going to be coming from,
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but I think this can apply in
any realm of prolife ministry. Whether
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you're on a college campus and talking
you from a prolife apologetic standpoint, whether
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you're in a pregnancy center and you're
talking with an abortion minded mom and and
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she's thinking you're being judgmental, we
will be want to be non judgmental,
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but again we want to thank through
this thing biblically. We've touched on this,
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I'm sure, several times in different
podcasts and about the judgment thing.
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It's almost a sort of a running
joke within, you know, our circles,
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even within my family. You know, some of my kids sometimes might
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say to each other, you know, the Bible says Thou shall not judge,
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and they're just kidding, of course, because they've heard it so many
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times as they've been involved in this
kind of ministry at least heard me talk
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about it. So let's dive into
what the scripture actually says. Exit this
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Chapter Twenty is where the ten commandments
are found, and I'm told actually that
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this scripture is actually in there.
Thou shall not judge. I've even heard
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it in perfect king games English before. Okay, about shout not judgeth like
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that, and so. But if
you look in Exitus Chapter Twenty where the
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ten commandments are found, God's moral
law, you actually find that that's not
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there. It's a matter of fact, if you look from genesis all the
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way to revelation, one of the
things that you're not going to find,
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just like you're not going to find
that the the awesome pastor of scripture,
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which is God helps those that help
themselves. You heard that one thousandto t
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yeah, it's not. It's not
in there either. And what is cleanliness
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is next to godliness. You know, you might think you would find that
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somewhere in the page subscripture, but
you actually want. If you did,
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it'd be right beside thou shall not
judge. It's actually not in the Bible.
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But there are principles in the Bible
about judging. Yeah, be probably
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one of the most famous, and
you have a list of scriptures that you
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want to touch on. Yeah,
but one of the most famous, and
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I think we're people get confused with
Thou shall not judge, and what the
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Bible actually says is when Jesus he
talks about judging right, and I'll just
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read some of that here, and
it's in Matthew and Chapter Seven. Matthew,
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Chapter Seven and it starts out on
the first verse. Judge, not
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that you be not judged for with
the same or with with what judgment you
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judge. And King James says with
the same measure that used to judge it
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we measured back to you. But
it says with the this is a new
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King James version, with what judgment
you judge, you will be judged and
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with the measure that you use,
it will be measured back to you.
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Why do you look at the speck
in your brother's eye but not do not
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consider the plank in your own eye? So this is sort of like a
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hyperbical parable. I guess you could
say, yeah, you got a beam
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in your eye. That's the picture. You got this big log sticking out
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of your eyes. White people out
if you're turn your head too fast.
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Right. Meanwhile you're judging your name
and you're looking at the back, yes,
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of nothing in his eye. Yeah, so should Jesus say and judge
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not as should be judge, and
same measure you used to judge be measured
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back to you in the same level
that you judge people. You're going to
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be judge. You be judged by
the by the standards that you set yourself.
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You're going to be judged by those
very standards. But he does talk
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about the log this in your eye, help your brother to remove the spects,
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and that's in his eye. And
verse for it says, How can
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you say to your brother, let
me remove the speck from your eye and
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look, a plank is in your
own eye? Hypocrite. First five,
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and that's sort of a key word
here, I think, as we talked
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about judgment. First remove the plank
from your own eye and then you can
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see clearly to remove the speck from
your brother's side. And continues on.
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But we'll we'll stop right there,
because what is Jesus saying here is he's
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saying that we should not make a
judgment at all. No, I would
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I would say no. I mean
he did you presuppose, when he says
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first do this and then, yeah, do this, that he's saying at
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some point, in my opinion,
that you can at some point then do
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that other thing? Yeah, well, so he does say, you know,
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you have a plank in your own
eye, right, and your brother
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has a speck. So so we
can liken these things, the plank to
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sin, the Speck to sin.
So you got a big sin going on.
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Yeah, they got little sin going
on right, and you're nitpicking their
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little sin when you need to deal
with your big sin. Now he doesn't
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say that you need to forget about
the speck in your brother's eye. That's
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what worried about the speck in your
brother's eye because you got a plank.
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No, he says, you get
the plank out and then you can see
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clearly to help your brother remove the
speck. So the speck that's there,
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the sin that's there, the folly
that's here, whatever it might be,
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is has to be dealt with.
It needs to be dealt with, but
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you need to deal with yourself first. And I might reference to scripture a
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couple of times, but this is
in First Corinthians Chapter Eleven, and the
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context here is Paul talking about communion
and the Lord's supper and he talks about
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how they take Commu in worthily in
all of this. But in Verse Thirty
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One of First Corinthians chapter eleven he
says this and it's it is there's a
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context to it, but I think
this is one of those scriptures that you
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can take out of its context and
it kind of be universally applied. If
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you will. And here it is
in Verse Thirty One of First Corinthians chapter
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eleven. For if we judge ourselves, we will not be judged. If
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we judge ourselves. So Jesus is
talking, and Matthew Chapter Seven. Making
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a judgment about yourself, judging yourself
first, and then helping your brother to
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get the speck. You judging your
brother, so to speak, judging the
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behavior, or whatever it might be, the spet, judging the fact that
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there's a speck there, and then, you know, seeing clearly, to
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help them remove the specs. Who
Make a judgment about ourselves first? Yeah,
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and then we can make judgments about
others. And Yeah, and I
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see very valuable warnings from our Lord
to anyone involved in pro life ministry.
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Yeah, you need to be right
with God to the very best of your
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ability. Yeah, and really be
looking at yourself and in prayer and in
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in in the word and making sure
that you have dealt with those logs in
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your own life, in your own
eye. Yeah, yes, certainly are.
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Satan will eat you alive out here. You have the devil eat your
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lines, as I say. So, yeah, making a righteous examination of
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our own behavior. Now going back
to Matthew Chapter Seven and that word that
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a pointed out earlier in verse five, hypocrite. Yeah, Jesus, when
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he's talking about judgment, here in
this passage, he is talking about hypocritical
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judgment. You know, it's sort
of like, maybe the modern example is
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like, you know, you're judging
somebody for dipping snuff and you smoke cigarettes
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or something. It's hypocritical, like
they're different snuff, can't believe they're doing
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that. It's going to rock their
teeth, they're going to get throat cancer,
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whatever, and you're puffing away on
a cigarette. Right. It's like
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that's hypocrisy. Now he's really,
more than anything, talking about the Pharisees
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and their their judgment, about about
the people, the common people, how
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much better they are in the fact
is they ultimately will go so far in
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sin as to crucify the very son
of God and they twist the scriptures.
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They twisted the scriptures in a way
that suited them. Its ypocrisy and he
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was dealing with hypocritical judgment right,
and that's what oftentimes we talk about,
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that shut not judge, and you
shouldn't judge what we're talking about, what
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the Scripture is talking about is hypocritical
judgment. Yeah, yeah, so that's
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sort of the groundwork for what we're
talking about here, because one of the
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things I'm going to say that might
offend some people's sensitivities is not that not
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only can we judge, that we
have a scriptural right to judge, but
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we are actually commanded to judge.
Not only can we, we must.
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As as God loving people, loving
individuals, we must judge and we are
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equipped. We are equipped to judge. We have the Holy Spirit within us.
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Yeah, and who could guide us
into all that justness? So we
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are equipped. And those are the
verses we have sleep that I exactly.
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We have them right in front of
us. And the ones that I highlighted
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that I I was going to go
through our that there is a way to
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judge, that is, with righteous
judge, and and God does give us
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some parameters by which we can and
should judge. Yeah, yeah, so
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let's jump into okay, well,
so the first one, I've got it
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and I just went chronologically through the
Bible. So the first one is in
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lebitticus, one thousand nine hundred and
fifteen. Okay, and that says do
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not pervert justice, do not show
partiality to the poor or favoritism to the
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great. But judge your neighbor fairly. Okay, so I think you know
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it. there. It's saying that
justice is is to be kept pure.
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Don't don't pervert it, don't change
your justice depending on who you are speaking
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to. In other words, speaking
to a poor abortion minded mom, I
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should still say killing your baby is
wrong in God's eyes, and speaking to
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the rich lady sitting next to me
in church who is contemplating taking her teenager
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to an abortion, I should make
no distinction. The judgment should be the
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same. So that's kind of the
first principle in that. And then,
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secondly, judge fairly. Yeah,
we're told to judge fairly, and we
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can talk more about maybe what that
means to judge fairly. Yeah, but
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well, I think judge and fairly
is sort of exactly what you just what
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you just talked about, like,
we're not basing the judgment on an outward
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appearance, on an economic status,
own killer of person's skin or anything else.
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We're judging, when we make a
judgment call based on what the Bible
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says. We believe that abortion is
wrong because it's because the Bible says it's
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wrong, because God says it's wrong
to kill an innocent person. Right and
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judge and fairly sort of ride alongside
that. Equal Balances Right, equal weights
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and measures scriptural principle. And so, yeah, we have to be consistent
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in that, and doesn't matter who
the person is that we encounter, we
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need to tell them the truth right
of what God's words says. We're called
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to judge fairly. And again at
that that verse tells us that we are
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to judge, but weren't to judge
fairly. Okay. The next one I
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found was in first kings three,
okay, and it was versus nine to
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eleven. And this is where Solomon
is, is made king, and and
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God asks him, what can I
do for you? Basically yeah, and
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Solomon replies that in this manner,
these verses are Solomon's reply to what he
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would have God to do for him
as as made King. Okay, so
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give your servant a discerning heart to
govern your people and to distinguish between right
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and wrong, for who is able
to judge govern this great people of Yours?
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The Lord was pleased that Solomon had
asked for this. So God said
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to him, since you have asked
for this and not for long life or
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wealth for yourself. Nor have asked
for the death of your entery enemies,
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but for a discernment in Administering Justice. I will do what you would have
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asked. So we're not a king, at least I'm not, not,
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not yet kings and priests. That's
well, Okay said, but I'm not
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a literal King of a people.
I'm not governing a people. But I
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think the principle is that God was
obviously very pleased that that Solomon above all
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these other things that he lists,
that maybe, in a worldly sensus,
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is what we would desire, but
that Solomon listed the ability to discern right
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from wrong as primary yeah, and
God was pleased and then granted him all
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these other things in addition to that. And I think that's a a great
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concept for us, that we should
also be asking for discernment in being just
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yea, and in being able to
judge, yeah, right from wrong.
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And that pleases God. And where
do we find it in the scripture?
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Yeah, we're we're told, we
know. So we need from the Lord
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wisdom to Judge Rightly, just as
Solomon did. Yeah, and and and
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wisdom to judge fairly when we make
a judgment. So here's the thing.
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When we talk about judging and when
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thou shalt not judge, don't judge
me. Of course, again Jesus is
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talking about hypocritical judgment. That's wrong. When we talk about judgment, we're
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actually talking about is making an assessment
of behavior exactly. We are not judging
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a person. Yeah, we are
judging a person's actions. Thinks that we
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can see. We don't need to
and we shouldn't judge motives because we can't
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see that. You can guess it, but we can see an action and
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if an action such as murdering an
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do not, we can judge.
That is wrong. Yeah, yeah,
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and so again we're talking about the
assessment of particular behavior. You know,
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when you go, when you pull
out of the driveway at your house to
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leave, if you're on a busy
road especially, you've got to make a
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judgment. They're like if cars are
passing by a pretty fast you make a
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judgment. Okay, is this MAC
truck coming fast enough to wear? If
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I pull out, it's going to
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it to pass or need it.
Do I need to go. You make
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a judgment, and that's not really
a moral judgment that you're making. It's
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just sort of a natural, practical
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another person's behavior and, based on
that behavior, what's the effect going to
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be? And we're looking at the
issue of abortion. Of course we're looking
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at the assessment of the behavior of
a mother. Is Her action going to
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affect another person or is it just
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of course we know in an abortion
that baby's alive, that baby's life is
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going to be destroyed. We have
to make a judgment about that behavior and
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then say that it's wrong. There's
a big difference, and here's here's where
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we I think, when you talk
to Christians about not being judgmental, not
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being perceived as judge, they're sort
of talking about this, the fact that
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there's a big difference. This is
what people need to understand about judging make
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an assessment of behavior and being judgmental, which is like nitpick pick and people's
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lives, looking for what's wrong with
everyone else rather than first what's wrong with
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us, which is what we need
to do, based on what Jesus said
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and based on what the Apostle Paul
said in First Corinthians, chapter eleven.
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We need to judge ourselves first,
make an assessment of our own behavior,
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rectify that behavior, and then we
can see clearly, and you God is
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pleased if we're going to go out
and just cast judgments when everyone else they're
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wrong, they're wrong, they're wrong. God's not pleased with that. But
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we make an assessment of our own
behavior and we take the call of God
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seriously to make an assessment of behavior
in general and then do something about that.
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God is pleased in that. God
is pleased in righteous judgments. Yeah,
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and I think picky backing off of
that idea that sometimes people will hold
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back saying, well, I'm not
clean, yeah, our God. I'm
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not perfect before God. There are
things in my life I know I deal
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with that. Yeah, and there
are and there will be till the day
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we die, because we are flesh
until the day we die. We are
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not just a spiritual being. But
I don't think God would be saying throughout
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the Bible, which you'll see by
the time we get to the end of
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these scriptures, that that we pull
out. I don't think he's saying wait
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until you are perfect. You're right. Yeah, I think he's saying you've
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examined yourself, you're going forth in
in my word and in my power,
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and you are ringing light to darkness, which we're clearly called to do.
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Yeah, yeah, and Ian,
if we're going to wait until we're perfect
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and we got it all together,
yeah, then what's never going to happen
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for everyone. Will Never, and
I am even like you know, talking,
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share the Gospel with people, people
that are lost. Right, yeah,
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you have to be perfect before we
can bring an imperfect people to person,
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to the Lord. Of course,
never share it, will never share
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it, will never take any action. And so I think that's a that's
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a really important point. Yeah,
because I think that that is discouraging to
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people. They hear these verses and
they shrivel up and or they hear the
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those, you know, people on
the pro choice side saying that shall not
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judge until you're right before God,
and you all better not right before God.
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And I see are you know,
people just shrivel up and think,
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well then I can't speak. Yeah, and and I don't think that's the
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case. At all. Absolutely not. So move on to another one.
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How about this one? This is
in proverbs twenty four and versus twenty three
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to twenty five. These also are
the sayings of the wise. To show
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partiality in judging is not good.
Whoever says to the guilty you are innocent
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will be cursed by people's and denounced
by nations, but it will go well
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with those who convict the guilty and
rich blessing will come on them. And
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so in the pro life world,
this one really popped out at me.
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Okay, because thinking of whoever says
to the guilty you are innocent, well,
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that's exactly what our nation has said
to those who are a boarding their
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children, and what the pro choice
movement is saying. They are speaking to
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these women who are guilty of destroying
that innocent life that God has created within
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them and they're telling her it's okay, yeah, and we hear that all
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wrong. It's just your body,
your choice, that's right, you are,
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in a sense, they are saying
you are innocent. Yeah, and
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and I think it's clear that it's
not what we are called to do.
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we've talked about this far. You
know, we're called, yes, to
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it, to judge, to make
assessments of individual behavior. That's wrong,
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that's right. I'm called to do
that, but not just individual behavior,
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like national behavior. You Look at
the prophets in the Old Testament and look
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Jesus himself. He made assessments of
the Jewish leaders, their behavior nationally Israel
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and their behavior that the prophets.
They made assessment of behavior. First God
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did, and then they took God's
truth that was revealed to them, made
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an assessment of the behavior of the
people and then made a national proclamation against
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particularly behavior. That's right. One
of those behaviors in Jeremiah. Jeremiah deals
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particularly with child sacrifice, exactly,
offering their children to Molich. Yeah,
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and and so he deals with that
and he makes a judge it. And
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then, based on this scripture,
you know, it's it's it's commanded,
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it's encouraging and it pleases the Lord. When we make a judgment, HMM,
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when we say you are guilty,
yeah, and you don't want to
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be guilty, you don't have to
be guilty, you can choose another path.
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Yeah, and then blessings follow.
Blessing. Less sings follow on those
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who point out there is a difference
between guilt and and not guilty and we
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shouldn't confuse them and we don't need
to confuse them, because God doesn't confuse
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them. Right. Yeah, yeah, got us a Gout of justice.
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Yeah, I'm next. I'll see
you got it marked there in your Bible
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and I actually went ahead and turned
there. It's sort of like the I
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guess, the theme scripture, little
anthembs. Right, yes, exactly,
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it is, and I think it's
an important scripture for us as side,
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well, counselors. We need to
have scriptural, you know, backing for
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what we do and and this to
me is there's a lot of other scripture
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backing, but this is one of
the things that really fuels my fire.
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And I actually spoke with some youth
last Saturday and it was a pro life
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boot camp that love life had put
on. There was some youth there.
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They wanted me speak about speaking for
those that can't speak for themselves, and
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I came out of this, right
out of this scripture, because it's a
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sort of the bedrock of what we
do as a ministry and side about counseling,
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and I broke it down and sort
of three points. Maybe I'll do
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that real quick and discovery. That
sounds there. But it starts out.
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This is a proverbs thirty one,
versus eight and nine, and verse eight
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starts out with open your mouth for
the beechless, and so I said that's
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one point there, open your mouth
for the speechless. The first point is
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actually opening your mouth. You've got
it. It takes energy to open your
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mouth, you know, it takes
muscles, it takes you being uncomfortable actually,
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and for us to make a judgment, especially we know our sin right.
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I'm the chief of sinners. We
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we know I'm the chief it like
I'm wicked. If wasn't for the mercy
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and grace of God, I would
be lost eternally. But got to save
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me. And so that can sometimes
keep up, you know, make us
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keep our mouth closed, because we
know our own flesh and we know our
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own failings. But we're commanded open
a mouth, to exert effort, to
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get out of our comfort zone.
And so that's what it's talking about.
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It's talking about open your mouth and
speeches. We can apply it in that
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way. Yeah, and it continues
on in the cause of all who are
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appointed to die. Open your mouth, and this was my second point.
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Judge Righteously, and course this is
sort of the theme of this podcast.
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Then we're to make a righteous assessment
of behavior. When we see behavior,
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naturally, individually, we didn't make
a righteous assessment of that behavior. Now,
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how do you get a righteous assessment
of behavior? Like, how do
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you know if that behavior is wrong
or if it's right? It's not just
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that we get some kind of feeling
in our heart. We have God's word.
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We see behaviors that is in direct
contradiction to God's word and what God
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says is right and what God says
is good, then we are supposed to
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judge that behavior righteously. Yeah,
that doesn't mean being judgmental. It doesn't
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mean just completely writing people off.
That's something we can never do, you
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know, with an abortion minded woman
or a post abortive women. We can't
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just write those people off because they
they've contemplated or they've been involved in particular
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behavior. God still would save and
rescue them like he did for us.
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capefully, we would not do that.
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We are told that we are to
judge but to speak in love, faith
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and love. Yeah, and then
continue on. It says again, open
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your mouth, judge, righteously,
plead the cause of the poor and needy.
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of all who are pointed to die. It says that in Verse Eight,
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and then it says again, plead
the cause of the poor and needy.
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cause is actually could be used as the
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word case, like a judicial case. I think we talked about this a
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little bit in the what is subwall
counseling episode that we did, that we're
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called to plead a case. We're
called to say this child is unjustly scheduled
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to die. Yeah, we make
a judgment of that behavior and you ultimately,
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in the situation we're dealing with,
and we're dealing with an abortion mind
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and mom at an abortion clinic,
at a pregnancy center, in whatever context
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is, she's actually the judge and
we're a lawyer pleading with the judge.
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You know, ultimately the choice is
in her hands, right, she could
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choose, as the judge, to
slap down the gavel and say guilty,
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death sent it. She can do
that. We want to appeal to her
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as a counselor as a lawyer on
behalf of that baby, to open our
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mouth for that child and to speak
on behalf of that baby and convince her
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that baby does not deserve to die. Right, right, and it's so,
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but it requires a judgment. It
does, and my translation says,
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defend the rights, yeah, the
poor needy. There's this sort of an
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idea. Or Yeah, exactly exactly
where, and judge. Of course,
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judgment to say yeah, you know, I judicial term. We are absolutely
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and it, but we have lots
of clues about how to do that in
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a way that is God honoring.
Yeah, and of course, keep in
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mind this is not like, you
know, in verse in Chapter Thirty One
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here didn't start out saying, yeah, this is a suggestion for you.
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You might want to follow this.
This seems to be kind of a really
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in your face command. It's a
declarative wing. See you speak. The
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you is is implied to speak for
those who conso working without option. If
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we'RE gonna the book of Wisdom,
if we're going to walk in wisdom,
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if we're going to try to please
the Lord and do what we're called to
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do and be what we're called to
be as children of God, that we
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have to open our mouth for the
speaks, as Ye have didn't always means
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just being aside wall counselor right or
whatever. God can call you all kinds
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of ministries to speak for those who
can't speak for themselves. But in particular
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we're called to speak for the unborn. Yeah, and and that whole idea
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of speak, speak it. It's
not just your actions. You hear all
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the time from the pro choice people. Well, you don't have to have
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an abortion, you don't go get
the abortion, you don't believe that abortion,
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don't don't go have one. But
we are told to move a step
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further. We are to speak.
We are not given the the allowance to
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be silent. What about? What
about, I think this might be in
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the scripture, to where it says, you know, proclaim the Gospel,
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preach the Gospel always and, when
necessary, use words. Ever heard that
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is like that's a first one,
am I one of my favorite. I
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mean, I've heard that quoted to
see John Wesley said that, Whitfield said
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that, I think, saying Augustine
might have said that. You know,
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everybody attributes that because it's such a
great humble phrase. Problem is it's not
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biblical. Now, preach the Gospel
always and we necessary, use words.
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Preach the Gospel always, and what
we say is, when necessary, use
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a megaphone, right, right.
Pressing the Gospel actually requires you to open
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your mouth. Words. The Gospel
is words, not just, you know,
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good deeds or just living a you
know, a good life beside your
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neighbor. That you should do that, of course, but we need to
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open our mouth, we need to
speak, we need to proclaim the Gospel.
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We need to speak for the unborn. Yeah, not just you know.
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Certainly prayer is is is vital.
We need to be a people of
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prayer. But we're in front of
an abortion center. We need to be
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praying and speaking. Now. There's
certainly their ministries like love life, whose
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focus is to pray and we see
them a sort of our our air support
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in this battle, you know,
in prayer. But we're getting folks from
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them who are coming out and saying
I got to take it beyond prayer and
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I need to open my mouth.
Yeah, and a lot of the really
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beat they're really called Romans. Ten
nine says proclaim with your mouth that Jesus
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is Lord. Yeah, and that's
that's where the whole salvation message begins.
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Proclaim with your mouth. You there. You are called to a verbal action.
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If you believe something, if something
is the most important thing on the
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earth, which is accepting Jesus as
your Lord and Savior, you're to proclaim
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it with your mouth. You're just
speak it, and I think that entails.
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I think there's reasons for that.
One is a witness. One is
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courage. That it the courage of
your conviction, if your your spiritual conviction,
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because the word speaks these truths.
If you have that in you,
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then you will not be silent.
Isn't Jeremiah? That says I could not
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remain silent. It was like a
fire, burning fire, shut up and
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shut up in my bones. He
could not remain silent. He didn't want
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it. He didn't want any more
suffering. He was tired of the suffering.
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He had a he led such a
horrible life, Poor Jeremiah. Yeah,
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but but he could not remain silent
and he's really a role model for
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me. I absolutely you know,
let's jump ahead. Let's jump into that
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Romans chapter two. Okay, that's
an important one. Yeah, this and
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guys go on Google, going your
Bible App and search the word judgment and
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you're going to find consistently God does
not condemn us making judgments, but he
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does condemn hypocritical judgment and judging with
with dishonest weights and measures. Yeah,
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but Paul Deals really forthright lie in
chapter two of Romans. Yeah, and
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it is again. It's about hypocritical
judgment. And you said you wanted to
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sort of prod me a little bit
about this the scripture. So well,
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do that. Well, yeah,
well, you know, I was reading
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it and, truth be told,
I took the easy verses, the supporting
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what I truly believe scripture says,
which is that we we should judge.
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But I do have to say Romans
to kind of gave me again pause and
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and when you read those first three
verses, I'll let you read those.
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Okay. Well, I'm a I'm
at a different I'm at Luke right now,
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but I can certainly turn to Romans. Hang on. Okay, so
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Romans too. All right, and
these are will do just the first three
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verses. But you know, reading
everything Romans to all the way through to
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the end of the chapter, I
think is very will help, very helpful.
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But let's just read the first three. You therefore have no excuse,
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you who passed judgment on someone else
for a for at whatever point you judge
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another, you are condemning yourself,
because you, who pass judgment, do
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the same things. Now we know
that God's judgment against those who do such
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things is based on truth. So
when you, a mere human being,
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pass judgment on them and yet do
the same things, do you think you
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will escape God's judgments? Yeah,
and you ultimately, when the Scripture says,
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and you know Paul again in First
Conthians, chapter eleven, when he
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talks about judge yourself and you know
not be judged. What he's talking about.
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Judge yourself and you'll not be judged
of God. Like making an assessment
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of your personal behavior, rectify that
behavior by the grace of God. You
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acknowledge that your sin, your sinful. You Need God's help to overcome that
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sin. And then you're not going
to receive the hammer down from God.
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Right, right, because he's taking
care of your judgment through what Jesus did,
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taking your judgment, your punishment on
the cross when you have surrendered your
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sin. Yeah, if to yeah, and seem so often the this passage
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is taken out of context, just
the portion that I wrote down, and
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in and of itself that portion is
hard to deal with. Foreign passing judgment
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on another, you condemn yourself.
Yeah, and then they stop there.
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But as we read on we understand. Well, he's not just saying any
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kind of judgment, will condemn yourself. He's saying a specific yeah, a
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judgment right. Yeah, well,
he's talking about again, a hypocritical judge.
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Yea. You know the overarching theme
of the book of Romans. It
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comes right out of Romans, Chapter
One, Verse Sixteen. For I'm not
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ashamed of the Gospel of Christ,
for it is the power of God to
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salvation for everyone who believes, for
the Jew first and also for the Greek.
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So Paul is addressing and you know, get theological and get too much
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into the breakdown of what this book
means, but it's talking about you and
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gentile relationships in light of the new
covenant. All through Romans he's addressing Jews
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at one point, then he addresses
gentiles and he addresses Jews and he addresses
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gentiles. And here he's addressing,
I believe, Jews, but because they're
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judging these gentiles for their their pagan
practices and they're pagan worship and even they're
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pagan background that they came out of
some of those who are believers. Right,
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and in Paul saying, listen,
do you do the same stuff?
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Like you're judging them and you're doing
the same stuff. You're judging them they're
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wrong. You have the commands and
because you have the commands, you think
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that they're wrong for breaking the commands, when you yourself break the commands.
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So it's basically like again what Jesus
said, judge not lest you be judged
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from the same measure. These to
judge will be measured back to you.
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Yeah, you're going to be your
God when you stand before God. If
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you have a standard and you're not
willing to keep or able to keep your
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own standard, then don't try to
put that standard on other people. Yeah,
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and that's what Paul's dealing with here
in this particular passage. I believe,
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the big takeaway don't be a hypocrite. Yeah, that's why I mean
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that Jesus probably had his harshest words
regarding hypocrites. Yeah, and hypocrisy.
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So, yeah, and so again, as ministers of the Gospel, as
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you know, Side Wall Counselors,
as folks in a pregnancy center, as
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people, and whatever ministry, in
particular per life ministry, you involved in.
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We need to make assessments of our
own behavior. We need to,
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before the Lord, confess our sins
for sake them, and and then we
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go out and we bring the Gospel, which is the the word of God,
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to those who are lost, the
Gospel that we've received, Jesus said,
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freely. You have received, so
freely give. But we can't just
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go out and cast out these hypocritical
judgments about people because they're wrong and we're
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right. Only reason why we're right. We're never right. God's right.
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We just have agreed with him.
And what we're trying to get people to
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understand it's God's word is right.
It's true. We're not fantastic people because
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we've believed God's truth. It's only
by His grace and His mercy that we've
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come to know this truth. We
come to broadcast the Gospel. Yes,
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to make judgments of behavior, but
does also make a judgment of what God's
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Word says, that if we turn
to him, he will wash and forgive
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us from our sins and we could
be made right with God. You know.
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Yeah, and so you we're called
the judge. We're not called to
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be judgmental. I think that may
be one of the biggest type of ways
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of right this particular power hypocrite.
And so when someone says, well,
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because many, many people in the
pro life movement are post abordim yourselves and
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that's that's what fuels a lot of
their passion and the desire to please and
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obey God. But there's this background
that that we know. It was destructive
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and horrific. And Yeah, and, and so I want to answer this
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question because I know it's in people's
minds. Well, aren't you a hypocrit
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it? You had an abortion and
here you are telling other people don't do
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it. And I want to apply
that same logic. Would they apply that
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to Paul? Yeah, Paul Murdered
Christians and Pete Jesus followers, and now
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he's coming to people throughout, you
know, the known world at that time
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and saying you need to turn to
Jesus. Well, he would be the
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biggest hypocrite at all if you couldn't
use a past that was destructive towards the
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very thing that you are now promoting. And so my destructive past is actually
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gives me an understanding that someone that
doesn't have that past may not have.
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But the depth of destruction, yeah, that and so so. Not that
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I want it, but I have
it. That is that is what I
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have, and to to offer to
others is, yeah, don't do this.
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I've been there and so much of
the most effective arguments against terrible behaviors
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are from those who have engaged in
them and been destroyed or nearly destroyed,
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some of the biggest witnesses. You
know, you have a friend WHO's next
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drug addict, right, and he
is, you know, a witness and
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a testimony and God uses him to
speak to other people who, right,
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are in drug addiction. Right.
God rescued me from it, yeah,
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and and he can rescue you from
it. Yeah, one of the pro
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boards as asked me, one of
the pro choice like in the abortion Clin
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he asked me, I think it
shared this one a previous podcast, but
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it's not wrong for me to share
it again, right, and she said
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in particular about you. Yeah,
she said Vicki's had an abortion. Isn't
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it hypocritical for her to come out
here and tell these women not to have
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an abortion and she's had one herself. Yeah, and I said, you
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know what, there's there's some woods
across the street at the abortion clinic and
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I said, imagine if I walk
through those woods and there's a lot of
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snakes in those woods, and there
actually are a lot of snakes. We
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seem like their four coppers are as
here dangerous. And say I walk through
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those woods right there and I got
bit by ten copper heads on my way
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through those woods and by God's grace, I pulled myself out of there,
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just drug myself out, called one
one and when to the hospital, got
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all the Anti Venom. By God's
mercy and grace, I'm alive. Get
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back on my feet and I come
out here and I stand in front of
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those woods and I scream with my
hands waving back and forth, don't go
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in those woods and try to convince
anyone that would come that way not to
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go in those woods. That be
hypocritical or that be me actually loving people,
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because I've been in those woods.
Yeah, and it ain't a good
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place to go. Right. You've
been in those woods. Right, you've
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been in an abortion clinic. You've
gone through that, you you've you've experienced
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the horror of what abortion can bring
in a person's life. And you're just
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sort of that person standing in front
of those woods and they had don't go
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that way. You're that person standing
at the edge of that brink that people
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are falling off, for people are
headed toward. You fall off and,
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my God's grace, you've you've gotten
back up, yeah, from that Brink.
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Yeah, and you're telling people don't
go that way. Yeah, you're
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not being judgmental. You're making a
judgment, an assessment of behavior. Yeah,
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but you're not judging them in the
sense that you you hate them,
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you're angry with them, or you're
being hypocritical, right. It would actually
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be to claim that you love people
and not to try to keep them from
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destructive behavior. Would actually be hippocrius. Yeah, and actually I am making
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a judgment on myself. Yeah,
and that judgment was that was evil and
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wrong and horrific and barbaric, I
mean every terrible adjective you could use.
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And and so, through that Voice
of experience, you know, I can
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speak knowledgeably about this is wrong.
I know it's wrong. I lived it
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and I know it's wrong because,
ultimately, because the Bible tells me so.
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Yeah, all right, well,
if you're if you're cool with that.
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Oh, you want to, you
want to wrap it up before I've
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got three more. Okay, let's
okay, let's go for it this one.
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How is it that you don't know
how to interpret the present time?
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Why don't you judge for yourselves,
which is right? So again telling us
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we have the power and should be
able to judge. US This speaking the
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ourselves, Jesus is telling us to
judge. That is actually that read letters
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there better. This is Jesus and
Luke twelve and fifty seven telling us to
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judge. Then in Johndred and twenty
four, stop judging by mere appearances.
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So he's telling us how not to
judge, but instead judge correctly. And
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Geese as speaking in John Twenty Four. So we are to judge, judge
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with righteous judgment. Passage. They're
correct. How about this? First Corinthians
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to fifteen. The person with the
spirit makes judgments about all things. But
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such a person is not subject,
for merely to merely human judgments. For
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who has known the mind of the
Lord is to instruct him. But we
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have the mind of Christ reminding US
WE HAVE THE MIND of Christ if we
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are born again through the atoning sacrifice
of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit in
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dwells us. We have the mind
of Christ and we can judge. We're
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not judging by human judgments, we're
judging by Biblical judgment, Right, by
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Christ judgment. Yea, the Lord
has given us not only again, the
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the right, but the charge to
judge, and the judgments that we make
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are supposed to be for restoration,
not to tear people down. Exactly.
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Yeah, you don't think a lot
of it is rooted in, you know,
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as far as Christians not want to
be judgmental, not want to be
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perceived as judge. Unfortunately, I
think a lot of it's rooted in the
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fear of Man, is rooted in
a desire to look good in the ass
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of the world and listen gas no
matter what. If you want to live
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for God, if you're going to
live for the Lord, you're going to
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be rejected by society. You're never
going to be culturally quote relevant, and
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that's not the goal anyway. Our
goal is not to be culturally relevant.
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Our goal is to be biblically relevant, to obey what God's word says,
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because God's words unchanging. The culture
changes its opinions. Change doesn't mean we're
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completely out of the loop. It
doesn't mean that we just, you know,
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are purposely culturally irrelevant, so to
speak. The Gospel is cultural,
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culturally relevant. It's relevant to every
culture. Has Been for two thousand years
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and changed hearts and minds and lives
for twozero years. If it was relevant
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then, it's relevant now. And
in the word of God tells us we
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should make judgments and based on those
judgments, bringing the Gospel to help our
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brother remove the speck. The Gospel
is like a pair of tweezers to help
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you get the speck out of your
brother's eye. And so so we encourage
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you guys, you know, not
just in prolife ministry, but wherever you
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are work, you business, home, whatever, bring the Gospel. Be
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An ambassador of Jesus, to bring
the gospel of the Kingdom to all of
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those who are lost and watch God
do his work. But you know,
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do it make a judgment of yourself
first, be in the word, being
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prayer, be in church and and
let God do his work in your heart,
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as he uses you to do a
work at other people's hearts. We
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appreciate all those who do listen and
just as we always encourage you just to
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connect with us and connect with me. D Parks at cities for lifecom.
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Cities The number for lifecom. You
can connect with Vicky v COSSI ORG at
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cities for lifecom, our website,
Charlotte dot cities for Life Dot Org,
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and then our website with sidewalk counseling
it from a and and sort of training
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and things. There's www dot sidewalks, the number for lifecom. You want
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to hear from you guys. We're
starting to put out audio versions on Youtube,
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not videos yet, even though we're
doing some video recording. Once we
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start doing that, it'll it'll be
out there, but for now we're just
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putting the audio version out on youtube
so you can comment there. You can
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share the stuff on social media,
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on Itunes of what you think about
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Let us know some suggestions you might
have her podcast episodes, things that
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you haven't heard really covered before on
this podcast or others. We'd like to
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talk about those things guests. Maybe
ideas you have for guests? We'd love
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to get some more folks on on
here. We have some guests coming up
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in the next couple of weeks.
It'll be really a blessing, I think,
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but we appreciate those who listen and
I hope that you're blessed as you
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listen and we'll talk to you later. Use Milan, use me, give
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me, give me. Know it
will cost me my life, but not
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things too precious inside