SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.000 When I see a young man walking his girlfriend into an abortion clinic with his 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.470 Pajama Pants on, his spongebob squarepants Pajama Pants on, that gets under my 3 00:00:10.669 --> 00:00:17.269 skin. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and welcome 4 00:00:17.309 --> 00:00:20.510 to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. In this episode we're going to talk 5 00:00:20.550 --> 00:00:25.579 about Balancing Truth and grace in pro life ministry. It's not an easy balance, 6 00:00:25.739 --> 00:00:28.940 but we believe the Bible gives us some good principles, so stick with 7 00:00:29.019 --> 00:00:31.940 us as we talk through this. Prince Bis, Send Me, Lord, 8 00:00:34.820 --> 00:00:47.049 I felt show Passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome to the 9 00:00:47.090 --> 00:00:53.280 Gospel Center pro life podcast. We wanted to do an episode about Balancing Truth 10 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.920 and Grace when we're confronting evil, and you know, of course we're confronting 11 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.119 the evil of abortion. I believe it's the biggest evil in our day and 12 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.829 age that all Christians are called to confront, and some way, shape or 13 00:01:04.829 --> 00:01:08.349 form we're confront that on a regular basis on the sidewalks in front of the 14 00:01:08.349 --> 00:01:11.549 abortion clinic. Some of you guys are confront that evil and other context and 15 00:01:11.629 --> 00:01:15.510 we appreciate that. But we wanted to talk about the balance of truth and 16 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:21.219 grace. We're called to speak the truth of God's Word and we're called to 17 00:01:21.260 --> 00:01:25.780 do it in grace. Paul says that we should speak the truth seasoned with 18 00:01:26.019 --> 00:01:29.780 grace. We should speak the truth in such a way that imparts grace to 19 00:01:29.819 --> 00:01:32.780 the here in one part. Yeah, at one point Paul says that, 20 00:01:33.569 --> 00:01:38.290 and I believe, by God's grace, that over the years I've certainly learned 21 00:01:38.489 --> 00:01:42.730 how to balance that. You know, it's one man said, if it's 22 00:01:42.769 --> 00:01:46.450 all truth and no grace, you become a bully, if it's all grace 23 00:01:46.569 --> 00:01:52.000 and no truth, you become a compromiser, something like that. I'm paraphrasing 24 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.319 exactly. She gets some point. PITHY, catchy way to say it's good, 25 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.599 but you get the point. Yeah, so we're called us to do 26 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.989 both. We're called extend grace. Were called to speak truth. And again, 27 00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:07.870 I think we've learned that. We've learned that dynamic by, you know, 28 00:02:08.030 --> 00:02:14.030 making the mistake of being maybe too one way or another or hearing others. 29 00:02:14.189 --> 00:02:17.740 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know, I mentioned to you about 30 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:21.419 how, you know, out in the the social media sphere and just some 31 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:25.180 of the circles that we run in and that we are connected to. We 32 00:02:25.259 --> 00:02:30.449 see folks who maybe are in front of an abortion clinic or whatever context, 33 00:02:30.569 --> 00:02:32.849 and they're, you know, all truth and just stand out in front and 34 00:02:32.889 --> 00:02:36.930 just preach and doesn't matter how it's received. I'm just going to come there 35 00:02:36.969 --> 00:02:39.370 and I'm going to say abortions murder, it's wrong, it's in and you 36 00:02:39.409 --> 00:02:43.210 know I'm not, I'm not the accuser against that person. They're preaching the 37 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:45.759 truth. Okay, I get that. And then, you know, also 38 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.439 see folks who, you know, it's the focus is on the women and 39 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.439 the focus is on hey, you know, I know you're a victim of 40 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.360 your circumstances, almost like the women are victims. And we've dealt with that 41 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.909 subject before. Yeah, and it seems like there's somewhere in the middle, 42 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:05.430 like with a lot of the things that we deal with, that the Lord 43 00:03:05.509 --> 00:03:09.030 wants us to be somewhere in the middle on that balancing right and it's it 44 00:03:09.189 --> 00:03:13.259 is a balancing act, because I contend to be more on the hard side 45 00:03:13.699 --> 00:03:15.939 and more on the you know, the wrath of God, the judgment of 46 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.180 God. And again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. We need to 47 00:03:19.219 --> 00:03:21.500 talk about the wrath of God. We need to talk about the judgment of 48 00:03:21.539 --> 00:03:23.259 God. We need to talk about Hell. There are times where we need 49 00:03:23.340 --> 00:03:30.250 to mention the impending judgment that comes on those who resist God's truth. Yeah, 50 00:03:30.530 --> 00:03:31.969 right. So I'm certainly not against that and not speaking against that, 51 00:03:32.009 --> 00:03:37.969 but the Lord has helped me to balance out well the message and to bring 52 00:03:38.210 --> 00:03:43.360 kind of both angles to bear to those they're going into abortion clinics. Right 53 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.439 as we were thinking about this, I was looking up some passages and just 54 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.520 thinking about well, what does the Bible have to say in regards to that 55 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.150 balance? Yeah, and and for me it's it's not only the balance of 56 00:03:57.389 --> 00:04:01.469 positive and negative in a sense, because there might be truths that are positive 57 00:04:01.509 --> 00:04:05.229 truths. Yeah, but there are negative truths. There are, you know, 58 00:04:05.430 --> 00:04:09.909 going to hell is one of those kind of negative truth yes, that 59 00:04:10.300 --> 00:04:15.139 if you continue and willful disobedience, but but also the timing of when those 60 00:04:15.339 --> 00:04:20.019 truths should be spoken. Yeah, and I think one of the greatest verses 61 00:04:20.139 --> 00:04:24.410 in the Bible about timing is in it. CLEA, she asked, he's 62 00:04:24.810 --> 00:04:30.329 okay. That that ecclesiast these three, just the first verse is probably enough. 63 00:04:30.370 --> 00:04:34.089 Yeah, Clesias, these three one did you for everything there is a 64 00:04:34.129 --> 00:04:39.399 season. Yeah, time for every matter under heaven. Of course we know 65 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:44.199 that. There's been songs written about that signes secular song. Another passage that 66 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.000 comes to mind for me, which I find myself quoting this a lot. 67 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.399 As a matter of fact, recently I have quoting it to myself and to 68 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.629 others, is a proverbs you proverbs book a wisdom gives us some just real 69 00:04:54.709 --> 00:04:57.790 practical wisdom. Here it says in proverbs twenty seven, verse fourteen. He 70 00:04:58.509 --> 00:05:00.829 who blesses his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, 71 00:05:01.310 --> 00:05:04.910 it will be counted as a curse to him. And so what's that telling 72 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:10.379 us? Wrong time, wrong place? Listen, there can be your and 73 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:15.019 tone to you know, loudly right. So there might be folks that imagine 74 00:05:15.259 --> 00:05:19.139 that. You know, I guess not too long ago I was like this, 75 00:05:19.300 --> 00:05:23.410 our tone doesn't matter. You know, Jesus got angry sometimes. He 76 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209 had an angry tone sometimes, and I would justify an angry tone and angry 77 00:05:28.089 --> 00:05:31.930 demeanor. And you scripture, but I think this scripture really confronted me in 78 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:35.800 this he who blesses his friend, this is a blessing. So this is 79 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.399 little different. A good thing that? Yeah, it's a good thing. 80 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:43.120 You. So you can say a good thing right, too loud, yeah, 81 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.040 and at the wrong time, and it's not resist and it's not received 82 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.790 very well. Imagine a bad thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and 83 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:53.550 so imagine, you know, and listen, we go out to abortion clinics, 84 00:05:53.589 --> 00:05:57.389 we do ministry with good intentions. We want to see God, you, 85 00:05:57.430 --> 00:06:00.069 glorified, we want to see people save their babies, we want to 86 00:06:00.069 --> 00:06:02.029 see people turn to the Lord. Right. So we have good intentions and 87 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:06.860 it's a good message. We're bringing this blessing of God's truth. But if 88 00:06:06.899 --> 00:06:11.420 you do it in an obnoxious tone where you're just loud, you're just out 89 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:15.459 there to make noise, and you do it at the wrong time, you 90 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:17.379 know, you could get yourself punch in the face. Yeah, yeah, 91 00:06:17.420 --> 00:06:23.649 but you can also just be completely rejected. Now balancing again. I think 92 00:06:23.689 --> 00:06:28.569 we do have to balance, because there is a pragmatism that the modern church 93 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:31.290 is embraced where, you know, it's almost like we're willing to compromise the 94 00:06:31.329 --> 00:06:33.920 truth of God's Word just to get people to hear what we have to say. 95 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:39.279 And I'm not talking about that. But there are some practical, practically 96 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.600 wise things that we can do that will help us get the message across in 97 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.509 a more effective way. Sure, so you know, not being obnoxious and 98 00:06:48.709 --> 00:06:53.870 loud. Yeah, now you know we get loud, right, we have 99 00:06:53.990 --> 00:06:57.310 to raise our voice across the parking lot at the abortion clinic. We use 100 00:06:57.350 --> 00:07:01.819 amplified sound, but we do want to make sure our tone is inviting, 101 00:07:01.860 --> 00:07:05.579 right. So how do you how do you balance that? You know you 102 00:07:06.019 --> 00:07:10.019 want to invite them to come over and talk to you, but also you're 103 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:15.339 not just like it's not just something you might want to consider, your commanded 104 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:18.170 to tell people the truth. Or How do you balance inviting them, but 105 00:07:18.209 --> 00:07:23.449 all who telling them abortion is murdered? And that's really, at least from 106 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:27.569 my heart, my goal with this podcast how to balance those two things. 107 00:07:27.610 --> 00:07:32.439 Yeah, and of course the Holy Spirit is is going to hopefully guide us 108 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.519 in that. But another, another thing I was thinking in terms of balance 109 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:43.000 is exactly what what you've talked about, but also the the balance of what 110 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:49.470 appeared to be almost conflicting concepts that we're introducing out there in in on the 111 00:07:49.509 --> 00:07:53.589 sidebox specifically, but all of us in the in the pro life movement. 112 00:07:54.069 --> 00:07:58.980 So what I mean by that are our things like mercy, yeah, our 113 00:07:59.060 --> 00:08:03.540 God's love, yeah, versus justice or God's wrath. Yeah, absolutely, 114 00:08:03.699 --> 00:08:11.740 their critical HMM. Both are issues that are a component of approaching an abortion 115 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:18.250 minded mindset. Yeah, absolutely, and hopefully confronting and altering that to be 116 00:08:18.410 --> 00:08:24.610 more in line with what God would have them do. Another one is faith 117 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:33.399 versus fear. Yeah, those are conflicting things. That are fear, I 118 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.279 think, as a major driver towards a bullytion. Yeah, you know, 119 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.279 we wrote an article about fear, about the fear, the spirit of fear 120 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.789 that many women come to an abortion clinic, that they're under, and how 121 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:48.309 we, you know, contradict that with faith, right, bring the truth 122 00:08:48.389 --> 00:08:52.149 of what God's Word says rather than the fear that the flesh, the world 123 00:08:52.190 --> 00:08:54.740 and the enemy bring to bear. Yeah, but but you know, in 124 00:08:56.860 --> 00:09:01.820 to the abortion minded woman, the obstacles that are raising, that fear is 125 00:09:01.940 --> 00:09:07.700 very real to her. Absolutely, and so that's an important thing for us 126 00:09:07.779 --> 00:09:13.009 to recognize as how do we address what is in many cases, realistically causing 127 00:09:13.049 --> 00:09:18.730 fear and help them to refocus on faith, yeah, which is going to 128 00:09:18.809 --> 00:09:22.289 drive a better decision, more godly decision. Right. And then a third 129 00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:31.840 area that I was thinking about was enemies of God becoming enemies of God through 130 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.840 our actions, hum and and our beliefs, or becoming friends of God. 131 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.710 Yeah, are we friends of God? And again I think that's very relevant. 132 00:09:39.750 --> 00:09:43.710 Yeah, at the at the abortion center, but in the pro life 133 00:09:43.750 --> 00:09:50.269 movement, just when we're confronting the evil of abortion, both can be true. 134 00:09:50.350 --> 00:09:56.179 Yeah, an unrepentant person and willful disobedience with God has become his enemy 135 00:09:56.220 --> 00:10:00.779 and that probably needs to be expressed. Yeah, and that that would be 136 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:05.700 similar in the justice wrath versus them. Ye, see. Yeah, and 137 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:11.490 you know, as believers, just because we have a certain disposition to be 138 00:10:11.850 --> 00:10:15.450 maybe more inclined, you know, be maybe be more of the, for 139 00:10:15.450 --> 00:10:18.690 lack of a better term, the prophetic type that want to just deliver the 140 00:10:18.769 --> 00:10:20.370 mail. You know, it said the prophets. They just deliver the mail. 141 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.120 They don't care how it's open. You know where the open and or 142 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.639 not. You know, on evangelist or or pastoral sort of heart wants to 143 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.039 wants to help you open the mail, you know, to help you LNG 144 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.840 through. And so balance in that is important. And again, I think 145 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.830 I've mentioned I'm sort of on the prophetic side. I want to bring the 146 00:10:37.549 --> 00:10:43.870 the judgment of God and understanding really, you know, once we grab the 147 00:10:43.909 --> 00:10:46.350 reality, once it gets in our hearts, the reality of what's going on 148 00:10:46.509 --> 00:10:50.179 inside of that abortion clinic, we can justify a lot of things that we 149 00:10:50.340 --> 00:10:54.179 say. But, you know, on the other end of the spectrum is 150 00:10:54.620 --> 00:11:00.019 again the the the mercy and the position of mercy and kindness. To the 151 00:11:00.179 --> 00:11:01.100 point, you know, I've seen people, and I know you seen it 152 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:05.210 too, they will call out to a woman going into an abortion clinic, 153 00:11:05.570 --> 00:11:07.490 you know, if you do this, God'll forgive you, and it's like 154 00:11:09.649 --> 00:11:11.690 that's Yo, that's that's not what we should be saying either. You know, 155 00:11:11.730 --> 00:11:13.850 I don't think you should be saying you know, if you do this, 156 00:11:15.009 --> 00:11:18.009 God's going to put you in hell. I don't know that that's what 157 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.639 I want them to hear going into the door. And I don't want them 158 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.360 to hear if you do this, God'll forgive you. Yeah, you know, 159 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.879 actually both of those statements are have some truth to them, right. 160 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.480 That's right. I mean's that's the apparent country. Yeah, and and, 161 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.070 but it's based on on what, what their choices are, exactly? Yeah, 162 00:11:33.110 --> 00:11:37.230 where their faith and supultimately, yeah, ultimately, and does yeah, 163 00:11:37.230 --> 00:11:39.429 I mean if they have an abortion will God forgive them? Well, we 164 00:11:39.590 --> 00:11:45.389 talked about forgiveness in in a previous podcast and certainly we need to be talking 165 00:11:45.429 --> 00:11:48.940 about forgiveness. But God won't forgive them if they don't repent, if they 166 00:11:48.980 --> 00:11:52.460 don't truly turn to Jesus. Yeah, so you know, since that's true 167 00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:54.899 and it's not true. Will God put them in Hell? Well, if 168 00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:58.740 they don't repent, yes, he will, but he will not if they 169 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:01.179 do repent, but they're trust in him. So it's you know, what 170 00:12:01.379 --> 00:12:05.529 balances these two things? What balances these two things is the word of God. 171 00:12:05.690 --> 00:12:09.929 Yeah, and and US bringing source from our lips to their hearts. 172 00:12:09.970 --> 00:12:15.090 Bringing a message that's balanced requires for us to humble ourselves in some areas. 173 00:12:15.129 --> 00:12:18.279 You know I've had to humble myselves and myself in some areas, especially dealing 174 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.600 with the men. I mean it irks me to no end. Let me 175 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.000 let me stay. When I see a young man, MMM walking his girlfriend 176 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.070 into an abortion clinic with his Pajama Pants on, his spongebob squarepants but Jama 177 00:12:31.190 --> 00:12:35.950 Pants on, that gets under my skin. I want to go over there 178 00:12:35.029 --> 00:12:39.149 and thump him in the head and say, be a man, you're not 179 00:12:39.429 --> 00:12:41.470 here. You know, I want to call out his manhood, right, 180 00:12:41.549 --> 00:12:45.860 and that's that's man. It just gets me and I want to bring to 181 00:12:45.980 --> 00:12:48.299 bear the wrath of God and tell him he's destined for Hell, you know, 182 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.539 and give him revelation. Twe Eight all cowards were find their part in 183 00:12:52.580 --> 00:12:56.740 the lake of fire, right, and I've done that and I'm not said, 184 00:12:56.779 --> 00:13:00.490 I'm not saying that that's wrong. But if I do it in just 185 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:03.929 an angry tone, about guaranteed it's going to be received and going to be 186 00:13:05.090 --> 00:13:07.250 reciprocated in an angry tone. You know, we say in our trainings your 187 00:13:07.330 --> 00:13:11.769 tone will set the tone. If you have an angry tone, then you 188 00:13:11.289 --> 00:13:16.519 expect to get angry responses from people. Exactly exactly. She need wisdom. 189 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.440 Yeah, absolutely, how to approach this issue? And and where do we 190 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.919 I guess that's a good place to start. Well, where do we get? 191 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.759 Yeah, where do we watch the great that's a great version there is 192 00:13:26.629 --> 00:13:30.350 about here. Well, you know, proverbs is the book of Wisdom, 193 00:13:30.389 --> 00:13:33.429 right, and I had been doing for our sidewalk counselors here locally, which 194 00:13:33.429 --> 00:13:35.350 I kind of dropped off on this and the need to start back what I've 195 00:13:35.389 --> 00:13:41.190 called wisdom for the sidewalk. Just doing a little five minute video for our 196 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:43.700 sidewalk counselors to encourage them from the book of proverbs, because I've learned a 197 00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:48.059 lot from the book of proverbs. Proverbs has really got in my in my 198 00:13:48.299 --> 00:13:52.019 mess and and help me to sort through some of that stuff. You know 199 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.850 some proverbs. There's a proverb that says it's honorable for a man to stop 200 00:13:56.889 --> 00:14:01.809 striving, to stop trying to start a fight, because any fool can start 201 00:14:01.850 --> 00:14:07.929 a quarrel. Not really got in into my my business some years ago because, 202 00:14:07.129 --> 00:14:09.970 you know, as man we don't want to back down from a fight. 203 00:14:09.970 --> 00:14:11.200 And we're in front of an abortion clinic and we're calling out a man. 204 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.039 He's walking his girlfriend in with a spongebob squarepants Pajama Pants on, you 205 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.080 know, and it's like Ah, and I want to just hit him hard. 206 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.159 Yeah, and I'm starting, basically going to start a fight with this 207 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.429 guy because I'm to call it his manhood and the Bible says, you know 208 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:30.269 what, I don't need to be starting fights with people. I need to 209 00:14:30.350 --> 00:14:33.870 be sharing the truth of God's Word and letting the Holy Spirit do his job. 210 00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269 That's just to bring conviction. It's not my job to bring conviction, 211 00:14:37.350 --> 00:14:43.139 to call out their man. Their man could write their manhood and take their 212 00:14:43.179 --> 00:14:46.779 man card from them. It's the holy spirits job to bring conviction. So 213 00:14:46.899 --> 00:14:48.500 one of these things that we need, that we're going to be talking about, 214 00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:52.820 is trust in the Holy Spirit to do his work right, not only 215 00:14:52.889 --> 00:14:56.289 in them but in us. Yeah, absolutely, US, the wisdom and 216 00:14:56.370 --> 00:14:58.769 the guidance and how we deal with each of these issues. So maybe we 217 00:14:58.850 --> 00:15:03.409 could get into some practical yeah versus and in in each of the major I 218 00:15:03.529 --> 00:15:07.879 think we had three major areas that are apparent dichotomies, and I use the 219 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:13.039 word a parent because they never are truly let they're not contradictions rival it's, 220 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.039 like you said, there's a and, like ecclesiast he says, they at 221 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.389 assert at the proper time and place. Each of these concepts are appropriated, 222 00:15:22.669 --> 00:15:28.990 absolutely important to be expressed. So the first one is mercy or love. 223 00:15:28.389 --> 00:15:33.509 Yes, love versus justice or the wrath of God. Yeah, those who 224 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.259 are they're murdering their children. Yeah, so how do we know when and 225 00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:45.059 how much love to speak or mercy to speak and how much to express? 226 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:48.659 Hey, you're in danger of bringing the wrath of God on you and you 227 00:15:48.860 --> 00:15:54.450 really do not want that to happen. Yeah, and again there's those two 228 00:15:54.570 --> 00:16:00.049 truths are biblical realities and both need to be stated right. Yeah, I 229 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:03.769 believe that they do. You know, there's a there's a scripture, and 230 00:16:03.889 --> 00:16:07.360 this is comes from the book of Isaiah, but it's quoted also in Matthew 231 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.799 Chapter Twelve, which I'll read just real quick. It's first twenty. So 232 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.879 Matthew Twelve in verse twenty, and it says a bruise read. This is 233 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.909 talking about Jesus, a bruise read. He will not break in a smoking 234 00:16:22.029 --> 00:16:26.590 flax. He will not quench till he sends forth justice to victory, and 235 00:16:26.149 --> 00:16:30.230 in his name gentiles will trust. And I won't break down all of that, 236 00:16:30.309 --> 00:16:33.340 but basically that point with a bruised read, he will not break, 237 00:16:33.379 --> 00:16:37.940 a smoking flax, he will not quench. And that scripture some years ago 238 00:16:37.059 --> 00:16:40.740 struck my heart. Is You know, if people are already broken, if 239 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:44.620 they're already bruised, if they're already humbled, then you don't need to humble 240 00:16:44.659 --> 00:16:48.929 them further. Yeah, you know, read comfort in his teaching about sharing 241 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:51.929 the Gospel. He's talking about law to the proud and grace to the humble. 242 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:55.490 The law humbles people, but if they're already humbled, you know. 243 00:16:55.529 --> 00:16:59.049 So if I see a mom going in and she's got tears in her eyes 244 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:03.000 and she's obviously overcome with the shame of what she's about to do, the 245 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.480 conviction of what she's about to do, probably not going to yell out to 246 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.079 her you're going to hell if you do this. Probably not going to do 247 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.319 that, right. Probably not going to yell out to her abortion is murder. 248 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.750 I'm probably going to try to compel her to come over and talk to 249 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.190 one of the ladies on the sidewalk. He will here to offer help. 250 00:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.309 You don't have to do this. I might speak in in just terms that 251 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:26.390 are going to impart grace to her. You can be a mother, you 252 00:17:26.509 --> 00:17:29.109 can do the things that it takes to be a mother for this child. 253 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:30.420 You can do it. You know, I'll speak those, I guess, 254 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:34.539 you know, positive truths to her. Yeah, because she's already broken. 255 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.619 Right. You know, same way if a woman's coming out after she had 256 00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:41.819 the abortion and our heart is broken and she's got tears in her eyes, 257 00:17:41.859 --> 00:17:45.849 and we see that a lot, where they come out and you know they 258 00:17:45.890 --> 00:17:48.009 go in they're not here. They're not one to talk to us. They're 259 00:17:48.089 --> 00:17:52.609 they're got their middle finger up or whatever, and then they come out in 260 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:56.890 their hearts are broken. I'M NOT gonna I'm not going to add in soul 261 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.240 to injury, as as they say. I'm not going to kick her while 262 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.279 she's down. I want to share with her about the mercy. Now I 263 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.599 will say, Hey, you got to recognize that you've taken the life of 264 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.799 your baby, but there's a God in Heaven Who's merciful if you would turn 265 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.680 to him. So I'm going to. I'm going to offer the mercy of 266 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.109 God. That's going to be the most pronounced thing that I'm going to be 267 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630 talking about in that situation. Yeah, so the Holy Spirit and you're just 268 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:23.589 common sense as guided you into which approach is most effective for that bruised read. 269 00:18:23.710 --> 00:18:27.099 Yeah. And on the other hand, and we've all seen the moms 270 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:32.460 that walk in giving us the finger, swearing up a storm, saying they 271 00:18:32.539 --> 00:18:34.500 don't want they they want to go to hell. As long as they won't 272 00:18:34.539 --> 00:18:38.819 be anywhere where we might be, you know that we're going to approach them 273 00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:44.569 differently. I'm afraid that it for them, I would be less likely to 274 00:18:44.890 --> 00:18:48.890 begin with a softer, more positive message, and I might go I often 275 00:18:48.970 --> 00:18:55.720 will say, you don't my God, you're in danger when you're mocking God. 276 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.359 This is not funny, and you know, I'll I'll, I'll be 277 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.640 harshare probably yeah it in general, like you said, I would rather begin 278 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.710 with a positive message, but there are some people that will just laugh that 279 00:19:11.869 --> 00:19:15.990 off. Their hearts are so hard and the Holy Spirit reveals that to us 280 00:19:15.029 --> 00:19:19.910 and sometimes it's just caps it, it's just it's just so up and you 281 00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:23.859 know, there is this dynamic of that. It's kind of a human mechanism 282 00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:30.180 sometimes for them to use, laughing it off, mocking and that's that sort 283 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.059 of stuff to kind of really cover up the conviction that they're feeling. You 284 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:34.059 know, most of the time. I think it was John Wesley that said 285 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:37.859 you know, I'd rather have people, you know, he's preaching in England. 286 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.490 He's having a lot of opposition, of course, a lot of good 287 00:19:40.569 --> 00:19:44.089 fruit to you'd say. I'd rather have people yelling and screaming, spitting at 288 00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:45.690 me than people that are just ignoring me, because at least I know they're 289 00:19:45.690 --> 00:19:49.170 hearing yeah, and and and I know that that yeah, when we see 290 00:19:49.250 --> 00:19:52.440 that we see people going into the abortion centers and some of them are mocking, 291 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.680 some of them want to come out and tell us what for and how. 292 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.519 It's kind of a gaze, though, that they're here. And, 293 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.680 as you know, last Saturday, better of fact, friend see one of 294 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.150 our volunteers out there and she was using the the megaphone and reaching this one 295 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:11.910 lady and for a little bit that lady was just sitting there at her car. 296 00:20:11.309 --> 00:20:15.349 Didn't seem like she was hearing, and then she started yelling back at 297 00:20:15.430 --> 00:20:18.390 France, seeing some things and saying some not so nice things and fancying, 298 00:20:18.470 --> 00:20:21.460 hey, that's a good gage. At least I know she can hear me, 299 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:23.579 because the pro abortion people are blasting music, trying to drown us out, 300 00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.539 and she's like that's really encouraging. You could hear me. You know, 301 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.700 yeah, she was hearing, she was responding. She didn't respond positively, 302 00:20:32.779 --> 00:20:34.730 and so you know, this is where, you know, for us 303 00:20:34.970 --> 00:20:40.650 as believers in Jesus will, we really need to be constantly in the word, 304 00:20:40.890 --> 00:20:45.329 constantly in fellowship with God, because sometimes he can help you see through 305 00:20:45.410 --> 00:20:48.970 some of that. Sometimes it's just they're just prideful and they're just angry sometimes 306 00:20:48.009 --> 00:20:52.880 it's just a covering for brokenness that's there, and the Lord can help us 307 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.279 to sort through that. Yeah, that sort of stuff. And this verse 308 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.359 from James Thirteen, I think, guide you when you really are a little 309 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.829 bit unsure. Yeah, which do I show? Yeah, her see, 310 00:21:04.269 --> 00:21:08.069 judge men help me hear the Holy Spirit. He gives us this verse. 311 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:11.390 That, I think is a great verse. Yeah, and I'll ready. 312 00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:17.750 Here's change to thirteen. Right, for judgment is without mercy to the one 313 00:21:17.789 --> 00:21:22.940 who shows no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. Mercy triumphs over judgment. 314 00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:26.859 Yeah, and that speaks, of course, to you know, I think 315 00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:32.420 first and foremost, God's disposition toward lost human beings. You know, is 316 00:21:32.740 --> 00:21:37.650 is it true that every human being deserves the judgment and the wrath of God? 317 00:21:37.769 --> 00:21:41.970 Yeah, we all deserve the wrath of God. There is none good. 318 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:45.210 No, not one. We've all sinned and fallen short of the glory 319 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:48.319 of God. If God were to take us all out right now and put 320 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.039 us all inhale, we'd be he can perfectly justified this, because it's what 321 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.240 we deserve. Yeah, but God's disposition toward lost humanity is one of mercy. 322 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.549 Mercy triumphs over judgment. The scripture says God is not delight that even 323 00:22:03.589 --> 00:22:07.349 the wicked should perish. Right, and and so God's position, God's disposition 324 00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:12.390 toward humanity, is one of mercy. He desires mercy, but he's also, 325 00:22:12.430 --> 00:22:15.740 of course, a got of justice. Yeah, yes, so, 326 00:22:15.819 --> 00:22:19.339 I can't. I think the the practical takeaway of that one is, if 327 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:25.259 you're unsure, always mercy. Yeah, it's important, but don't be afraid 328 00:22:25.460 --> 00:22:30.690 to share the truth of God's judgment, because if there is only mercy extended 329 00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:36.210 and people truly don't have a sense of the weight, the waitingness of what 330 00:22:36.289 --> 00:22:41.329 they're doing, the the and how God's judgment will fall upon them, yeah, 331 00:22:41.450 --> 00:22:45.640 then you're not truly showing love to them because, yeah, you may 332 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.519 be merciful in them into Hell. Yeah, I mean, I guess the 333 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.240 picture an analogy that I've used before. You know, if someone's headed off 334 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.799 a cliff and they can't see it, but you're standing from a perspective they're 335 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.950 not and you can see the cliff. You know, you could yell out 336 00:23:00.990 --> 00:23:04.109 to him Nice things and you can talk positive things to him. Hey, 337 00:23:04.109 --> 00:23:07.470 you know, you're walking real nice there. You know, I don't want 338 00:23:07.509 --> 00:23:10.670 to. Don't want to trip you up and I don't want to take you 339 00:23:10.789 --> 00:23:14.420 away from what you're from your pleasurable walk. Right, right, yeah, 340 00:23:14.619 --> 00:23:17.900 but you need other direction. There's some beautiful trees. Yeah, trying to 341 00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:19.900 convince them to get in the other direction because there's beautiful trees. I mean 342 00:23:19.940 --> 00:23:22.180 sometimes you need to raise your voice and say, Hey, you're headed toward 343 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:26.769 a cliff, you're going towards destruction. Yeah, but again, I think 344 00:23:26.970 --> 00:23:32.049 your tone could matter in that, because you certainly don't want to frighten them 345 00:23:32.289 --> 00:23:34.609 so that they speed up all the more. You know exactly want to try 346 00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:38.170 to invite them to hey, yeah, how about not going toward that way? 347 00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:42.279 Is a balance, and I think the Holy Spirit definitely will help us 348 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.559 to strike that balance in a way that honors the Lord. Yeah, the 349 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:52.799 the second area, which is a dichotomy in terms of we one is a 350 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:57.430 negative and one of is a positive, is faith versus fear. Yeah, 351 00:23:57.470 --> 00:24:03.029 in the light of obstacles. So these MOMS have real obstacles. We may 352 00:24:03.069 --> 00:24:06.710 not agree with them right, that they're never a justification. They never in 353 00:24:06.990 --> 00:24:10.619 Chile, right. We never agree that that those should lead to the death 354 00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:12.740 of a child, but the fear is very real, very powerful, and 355 00:24:12.819 --> 00:24:18.700 sometimes there are stories that do seem, from a human standpoint, absolutely unstoppable. 356 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.099 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, I've had stories, I 357 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:25.049 think you've shared this to you, where you're dealing with a couple or you're 358 00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:27.809 dealing with a mom and she shares her story and you're thinking like okay, 359 00:24:27.930 --> 00:24:33.450 if there ever was a justification for for abortion, yeah, this is it, 360 00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.930 right. I mean we never, never justify that, but yeah, 361 00:24:36.930 --> 00:24:38.720 you just think in your mind it's like, okay, they really are facings 362 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:44.000 and tough stuff cool. And so you know, on one hand, some 363 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.359 a pro life counselor who is trying to reach an abortion minded woman cannot just 364 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:56.470 dismiss right ears and made make them feel on heard, invalidated. Those fears 365 00:24:56.509 --> 00:25:02.470 are real to them. Yeah, but on the other hand you don't want 366 00:25:02.470 --> 00:25:07.380 them living in that place of fear. Right. You want to refocus on 367 00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:14.700 the only place where they will find truth and hope and truly a mind change, 368 00:25:14.740 --> 00:25:18.259 yeah, towards life, and that's in the Lord faith, absolutely faith, 369 00:25:18.299 --> 00:25:22.970 yea submitting their life to God. So the balance there is is learning 370 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:29.130 how to listen and make sure they feel heard, that their fears are recognized, 371 00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.210 but they're the fears are not what should drive the decision. Yeah, 372 00:25:34.650 --> 00:25:41.799 and so one of refocusing their attention. I'll give a short story that that 373 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.880 happened today and then maybe you could talk about the the verses from Matthew about 374 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.910 you. You're walking on the water, which I think really is a great 375 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:57.630 illustration of what we're talking about. But today there was a couple that stopped 376 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:02.589 to talk with me and they were very kind and very polite and they had 377 00:26:02.630 --> 00:26:10.259 a beautiful little child in the back seat and they listened to me and said 378 00:26:10.299 --> 00:26:14.660 that they they knew that God would not have them do what they were about. 379 00:26:14.660 --> 00:26:17.420 To talk to them. I remember seeing you have the ready talking to 380 00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:19.289 them car side. Yeah, and you were talking to them at least ten 381 00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:25.170 yeah, I talked with them a long time and and they they said they 382 00:26:25.210 --> 00:26:30.089 believed in God, they knew abortion was wrong, they knew that the child 383 00:26:30.329 --> 00:26:33.480 was a human being in the womb and they knew that they would love that 384 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.160 that child as much as they loved the little baby in the back seat and 385 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.119 they were such good parents to the baby in the back seat. And I 386 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119 said, well, what is driving this? Why do you feel this is 387 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.269 what you need to do, and they said the coronavirus. They both were 388 00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.509 laid off from their job. They were already struggling. Yeah, and now 389 00:26:49.549 --> 00:26:55.589 they had zero income and a landlord who is not willing to help, and 390 00:26:56.470 --> 00:27:00.579 so that fear had to be addressed, and that was a legitimate yeah here, 391 00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:03.940 I mean you can just shirk that off. I mean think about how 392 00:27:03.940 --> 00:27:07.500 that conversation would go if you said, let's notice the reason to murder child. 393 00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:10.819 Turn turn your eyes on Jesus. Yeah, exactly go and be well, 394 00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:15.890 yeah, be warring too. Exactly so. And I think that that 395 00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:21.809 situation is not uncommon. Maybe not quite as dire as their's, but it's 396 00:27:21.890 --> 00:27:26.210 not uncommon. In fact, I would say every single time we confront an 397 00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:33.200 abortion minded woman, there is something fueling some fear of some sort fueling her 398 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.480 decision. The fear might be selfishness, it may be the fear and giving 399 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.559 enough person, but but nonetheless that her eyes are on the obstacle, her 400 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.789 fears, rather than on faith. Yea. And so the Peter Passage. 401 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:49.230 Yeah, so a lot of you guys know this passage where you or the 402 00:27:49.269 --> 00:27:52.069 disciples are in a boat and Jesus tells them to go on the other side 403 00:27:52.069 --> 00:27:55.829 of the Sea of Galilee. They go on the boat. Storm rises up. 404 00:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.259 Jesus courses on the mountain side praying. When he sends them out, 405 00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.299 the storm raises up. They think they're going to die. They see Jesus 406 00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.819 walking on the water. Peter says, you know, is afraid first, 407 00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.980 and Jesus says was don't be afraid, it's me. Peter says, well, 408 00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:14.849 it's you. Lord. Then didn't commanded me to come out, and 409 00:28:14.930 --> 00:28:17.890 so he commands him, Jesus. Jesus Commands Peter to come out. Peter 410 00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:22.009 Walks out on the water and he's walking on the water, yeah, until 411 00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:25.170 he starts looking at the wind and the waves around him. Then he starts 412 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.000 to sink. The Lord reaches out, grabs him and saves him. But 413 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.799 the point is, you know, once he takes his eyes off of Jesus 414 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.039 faith, yeah, he starts to give, give into the realm of fear. 415 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.279 And where does he do? He begins to sink under the water. 416 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:42.150 And that is for for many of us as believers, we can fall into 417 00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:47.029 that. Yeah, but these mothers were they're already sinking a lot of times. 418 00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:48.990 They've already taken their eyes because many of them do say they believe in 419 00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:52.190 the Lord, of course, you know, obviously we would question whether they 420 00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:56.180 have a weird relationship with him if they're coming to an abortion. Well, 421 00:28:56.220 --> 00:29:00.619 I hear them say, yes, I believe in God, but but yeah, 422 00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.940 there's the by and something. I say, put your butt in the 423 00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:07.380 way of God. Don't do that. Trust in the Lord. Don't put 424 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:10.970 your button away, right. But yeah, we get that. And you 425 00:29:11.089 --> 00:29:15.329 know, if we're honest as are as believers who you know? I feel 426 00:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.569 like I'm pretty serious about God, right, and feel like you are too. 427 00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:21.609 Yeah, sometimes we put our butt in the way. Sometimes we take 428 00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:26.599 our eyes off of the Lord and put our eyes on the circumstances around us. 429 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.160 Look at what we what we're facing here in this nation, with the 430 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.640 coronavirus scare and all of that. People are you know, I trust you, 431 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.480 Lord, but right, so I need to go by, you know, 432 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.630 could jillion rolls a toilet paper or you know, all this stuff. 433 00:29:40.630 --> 00:29:42.789 I mean there's a nice connection there, right, and some of our butts 434 00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:48.549 are bigger. That is that is the case. It seems. It seems 435 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.779 so. Yeah, but you know, it's not that. There are there 436 00:29:52.859 --> 00:29:57.339 isn't practical wisdom and all of that stuff involved in that. But sometimes we 437 00:29:57.420 --> 00:30:00.619 do put our butt in the way of faith. Yeah, yeah, and 438 00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.460 we get called in the realmos sink and when we put our and so that 439 00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:11.450 that that ability to again validate the fears that they're real. You understand, 440 00:30:11.809 --> 00:30:17.490 we've heard them, but when you put your eyes on Jesus, that that's 441 00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:19.369 what we're commanded to do. There's so many verses we won't go through them 442 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:22.680 all, but there's so many verses that tell us keep your eyes on, 443 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.119 yeah, on the Lord. Yeah, the the command I think we mentioned 444 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:32.119 in the coronavirus podcast we did, the command to fear not. Is the 445 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.589 most commanded command. Yeah, if you will, in the Bible and God 446 00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:41.710 calls us to fear not. So when we're a side wall counselors, we're 447 00:30:41.710 --> 00:30:45.710 speaking of those situations, we've got to come from a perspective of faith. 448 00:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.390 Then one of the things that we can do, this is something I encourage 449 00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:51.380 you guys with, whether you're, you know, ministering or pregnancy center with 450 00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:55.180 your ministering on the sidewalk, whether you're just speaking about pro life issues in 451 00:30:55.220 --> 00:31:00.500 general, is sharing stories of God's faithfulness, sharing what you've seen God do 452 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:03.890 in your life, sharing what you've seen God do and other people's lives. 453 00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:08.049 We can share so many stories in those, you know, are quotes, 454 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:14.490 impossible situations we've encounter the sidewalk. Yeah, we've seen God do some amazing 455 00:31:14.529 --> 00:31:18.640 things. Yeah. So we have reason to believe that God is faithful. 456 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.920 First and foremost, we have his word that says he is, but also 457 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:27.160 we have these experiences and these stories that we can share where God has come 458 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.440 through. Yeah. So with that couple, I know you you share and 459 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.630 you can share all of what God has done and what God you've seen God 460 00:31:34.869 --> 00:31:40.430 do in situations similar to theirs. Yeah, they ultimately it bulls down to 461 00:31:40.549 --> 00:31:44.869 the fact that there's no situation that justifies murdering a child. And we keep 462 00:31:44.950 --> 00:31:47.579 that as a standard, right, because God's Word is the standard. And 463 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.619 in a sense that we said we validate those fears. We do, I 464 00:31:53.700 --> 00:31:57.380 guess we give some legitimacy to those fears to say you actually hold to those 465 00:31:57.380 --> 00:32:00.490 fears. But listen, there's a God that you need to consider in the 466 00:32:00.529 --> 00:32:05.529 midst of those fears, who says fear not bringing that truth to bear and 467 00:32:05.609 --> 00:32:09.690 sharing stories where you seen God's faithfulness is a powerful way to speak faith in 468 00:32:10.170 --> 00:32:15.369 to those fears. Yeah, and ultimately, that is of everything that we 469 00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:17.359 do. That, as I would say, the most important thing that that 470 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.240 we do as people who are interceding for the unborn. Yeah, is to 471 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.000 remind people that there is a great God who loves the family, who knows 472 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.789 that baby and has known that baby before he was born. Yeah, and 473 00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:34.630 that's who we need to put our trust in, our faith in. Yeah. 474 00:32:34.670 --> 00:32:37.990 Absolutely. So, you know, basically, what we wanted to bring 475 00:32:38.029 --> 00:32:44.339 to you guys attention just in recording this podcast and encourage you guys with is 476 00:32:44.420 --> 00:32:49.059 that there is a balance of, yes, bringing the truth that God is 477 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.940 a god of justice, but also bringing the truth that God is a god 478 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:57.099 of mercy, that we are too, as ministers of the Gospel, bring 479 00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.289 the truth, to bring the grace, to bring them mercy, to bring 480 00:33:00.450 --> 00:33:06.289 the wrath and these these truths together in a beautiful picture of who our God 481 00:33:06.609 --> 00:33:10.450 is. He is a just God, he is a loving God, he 482 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.839 is a god of Wrath, he is a patient God. and to bring 483 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.480 those things, those truths, to bear, to bring a balanced message of 484 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.640 this God, of his Gospel and of his view of these MOMS and their 485 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.150 babies right and it does take us getting in the word. It does take 486 00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:36.309 us being in prayer and seeking God for his heart for these these babies and 487 00:33:36.470 --> 00:33:38.750 for these these women. We minister out of the heart of God. Will 488 00:33:38.829 --> 00:33:42.539 never going to miss it. We're going to get it right. It's just 489 00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:44.980 hard to minister out of the heart of God and not to get at her 490 00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.500 own flesh. Yeah, so I hope you guys were encouraged by this podcast. 491 00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.819 Hope that you're blessed as yeah, as you've listened through and you know, 492 00:33:52.859 --> 00:33:54.500 if you have some questions for us, you can certainly reach out to 493 00:33:54.579 --> 00:33:58.529 me deep parks at cities for lifecom. You can reach out to Vicki v 494 00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:01.250 COSSI, Oregan cities for lifecom. And we asked you know, you guys 495 00:34:01.289 --> 00:34:06.250 that listen to this or blessed by share this podcast with other people, shared 496 00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:08.570 on social media, give us some feedback, you know, let us know 497 00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:13.360 that you're listening, let us know that you know there are subjects that we've 498 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.800 covered that you're blessed by, our subjects that we haven't yet covered. Let 499 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.079 us know if there's some things that we can do better. We'd certainly like 500 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.800 to hear your feedback on that. We appreciate you listening. Until next time, 501 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:36.710 God bless o love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. 502 00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:47.579 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some 503 00:34:49.099 --> 00:34:49.539 met you