Sidewalk Training: Vital Information

0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and me, Lord. I welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast and this episode we're going to continue to do some training and particularly focus on the information that's helpful to have in your ministry at the abortion center. This episode will be helpful in equipping you, so stay with us. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us and, as always, we begin these podcasts by encouraging you very strongly to leave us reviews and share this podcast. We think it would be a blessing. We hope it's a blessing to you.

0:49 Hope it will be a blessing to you, and we don't want you to just hold that blessing in for yourself. We want you to bless other people by sharing this podcast and we also want you to reach out to us. I would like to hear some of you guys suggestions about future podcast that we could do, guests that we can have on. We have a particular focus on ministry at the sidewalks at local abortion centers, but we also cover other topics that have to do with pro life stuff in light of the Gospel. We always want to keep things centered on the Gospel because we know that the Gospel is the power of God to salvation. The Gospel changes a human heart, and so we always want to have our focus on the Gospel and bringing the Gospel and I hope with this podcast, this episode, you'll hear that.

1:34 But we're going to be talking about some pretty practical stuff. In our last episode we kind of began a series, if you will, of training podcasts. So this is basically centered around our training that we do, and I shared in that last episode that we do a once once a month training. So the first Saturday of every month from two PM to four PM eastern time, we do a zoom live zoom where Vicky and I train. We have our training slides and we go through a training that I think has been well proven. We've trained hundreds of people with that training, I would say, at this point, and a pretty effective and we thought, you know, rather than just kind of going through the slides like we do in our training, we would actually go on in break down the because there's so much that's left unsaid, I think, in each slide. Yeah, and it's like when we get done with the training. Like I should have said this, should have said that, should expounded more on this, expanded more on that, and there's just not enough time. Mean, how long can a person really sit in a zoom meeting? Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, it's hard. So it's like, well, let's let's take the platform, the podcast platform, and use that to expound on these different training slides. Some we're skipping over because can't do a whole podcast and we're compine, combining in one episode maybe a couple of the different aspects. But this, I think it's going to be pretty practical. HMM. Know where we're talking about preparation, preparation with information, so the information that you need to be prepared to go out to the sidewalk, and we're going to break

3:05 that down. The different aspects have occurred. A couple of key points that we're going to touch on. What what some of the information that you need to have going out to the sidewalks. But I want to address something and and I hear this from people and I get it, I can understand this dynamic, but folks who've been out on the sidewalk for a long time, I see it on facebook and here just kind of this idea just show up, right, and I get it and understand that, like we do, need to just show up, and there's a certain sense in will you just show up and make yourself available, God will use you. Right. You know, there's there's two promises we always make. God will use you to say babies and you're going to grow spiritually, no doubt about it. Right, and the Holy Spirit will that. That's the other part of it.

3:46 They say just show up and the Holy Spirit will take over. Yeah, which is true to a degree. Yeah, absolutely, but would degree. I mean Jesus says when talking about when persecution breaks out and you're brought before judges, don't prepare what you should say ahead of time because the Holy Spirit will give you what to say in the moment. So there's definitely that dynamic and we always encourage people lean on the Holy Spirit. We need. I can give you practical stuff. I can get in depth with some things that you can say and what you can't say out on the sidewalk, what's effective what's not right. Ultimately, though, you've got to be led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, he knows what's going on in that woman's life. He knows what will be the thing that needs to be said to speak into her situation. So, yes, you need to be led by the Holy Spirit. Yes, we need to just show up. But listen, guys, we're in a spiritual battle. We're in a battle between light and darkness, between life and death. Babies lives way in the balance.

4:46 And if you think about it, in a natural battle, I mean what if the army to just took an attitude of just show up, just show up on the battlefield and will win, because it does say God will fight our battles, it does. Okay, well, let him. Yeah, need swords with kind whatever. Let's just show up. And I don't mean to mock that, because I what's behind that. I think is a good motivation, like we just need to show up. The reality is so many Christians don't show up right and one of the reasons why people don't show up is because sometimes they feel stifled by their lack of preparedness. Right, right. So there's this balance. But yes, you need to be prepared, but you're never going to be prepared for everything and every situation. The way to be prepared, first and foremost, is to be deep in your relationship with the Lord. That's the first preparation. But practically you do need to be prepared. I mean we even talk down to the the very fact you need to have good shoes on. But you need to have good shoes on because they're the hard way. If you'RE gonna be on a concrete sidewalk for three to four hours, right, you need to have good shoes. That takes a little bit of preparation. You show up with, you know, thin and sold flip flops and you're standing on the sidewalk for three, three four hours, you're going to be miserable and you're not not going to be focused on while you're there. Right. So preparations important, but preparation and just having the right kind of shoes is not going to make you effective in the battle. Right. Yeah, so, but it does talk about preparation also. You know, you brought out some verses where he says don't prepared

6:18 your words, just trust that God will will speak through you. But there is also like the parable of the ten virgins waiting for the bridegrim. That's in Matthew Twenty five versus one through one through fifteen. So should I read that? Oh, yeah, okay, so again, Matthew, twenty five, one, one to fifteen. The Kingdom of Heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegrim five of them were foolish and five were wise, for when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, in other words, they were not prepared right and bring their oil, but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.

6:59 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. But at midnight there was a cry here's the bridegroom come out to meet him. Then all those virgins rose and trim their lamps, and the foolish said to the wise, give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out. But the wise answered saying, since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves. And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast. In the door was shut. Afterward the other virchants came also, saying Lord, Lord, opened us, but he answered truly, I say to you? I do not know. You Watch, therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour. Yeah, now it's not just preparation, obviously, for something like like, you know, going in front of an abortion center. It's being prepared for the coming of the Lord, which is the more important preparation. So I think the principle is is very similar in both cases. You're fighting a battle. There is there is a reward, a big reward, but you must be prepared, yeah, or the opportunity when it presents itself, may pass you by because you have not prepared. Yeah, I mean, if you think about I'll just give a practical example. Be prepared if it's going to rain, know the weather, be prepared with an umbrella because, yeah, if you're out there on the sidewalk, let's say you're supposed to get out there at nine o'clock and on the way there you're driving and the rain starts pouring down and you got to stop at Walmart and get an umbrella because you didn't grab one from the House right and you get there thirty minutes late.

8:28 You've missed thirty minutes and up for a lot of abortion centers, especially here, that first thirty minutes is one of the most crucial time periods in the day because that's when the people are coming in. That's right, and that's it's a little bit easier to talk to them then because it's kind of there's less pro abortion people out there early and stuff like that. Right. So just practically be in prepared is really helpfully. And if you got to run to the store to grab yourself some bottles of water because it's a hot day, yeah, you've had to leave the sidewalk for a little bit and otherwise you could have been out there. You will equipped with with water and the provision that you need for out there and you won't get taken from the sidewalk. seemly. It's just practical things and being prepared. HMM, yeah, yeah, and it's high tension crisis. This is this is it happens.

9:20 Sometimes, the things that you need to be prepared for are in moments of great conflict and those are the times when, if we're not prepared, we tend to falter. You know, it's in crisis when we'll lose our train of thought or whatever. Or so having the things you need the in in this case, the things we're going to be talking about are what information do you need to be prepared with to really kind of have it your fingertips to know? Yeah, so that in this high crisis, high tension situation, when you're actually doing battle, you're ready, you've got you've got it at the right time. And, like going back to that parable when the bridegroom shows up, you're there, yeah, with all the things you need to enter into the wedding banquet. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So we're going to go through some of these key points again. This is preparation with information, right. We're going to talk more about the practical stuff maybe in a future episode, but this is information. What information do you need to have? Do you need to know? Have it in your head, but maybe even have it on paper so you can go over and rehearse it?

10:28 What's some of that information? So the first point is know the facts about abortion right. You would not believe how many people come out, brand new volunteers to the sidewalk that really don't know just practical explanations for what an abortion is. I mean I've heard people give, I guess maybe heard it from somebody that heard it from somebody, explanations of an abortion. Yeah, and it's like no, that that's actually not accurate, and so we do want to make sure that the information that we're trying to communicate to women going to the abortion center is accurate. Yeah, you know something I want to throw in there before you talk about this key fact is when I was doing research for an article, which does a company like, as usual, this podcast, the way, that I wanted to get as factual information as I could about abortion, and so I went to a planned parenthood site and I want to tell you the way it's worded on the article is very different from the way planned parenthood words it. So even just knowing what they're being told very different from the reality of what happens in in an abortion. For example, it says that that when it describes the scraping out of the uterus following the the sucking out of the baby, it said a gentle circular tool is used to scrape out the contact it. Yeah, that, you know, that's not even close to a true description of what happens, yeah, in the

12:00 abortion. Yeah, and so to know what a true description is, yes, is I mean it's graphic enough. So just again, we don't want to make it more graphic than it already is. So, you know, saying that they're going to reach a pair of pliers up into your uterus and pull your baby apart. I mean that's kind of what's happening, but it'd be better if we said forceps. Okay, be better if we talked about they're going to use a cure at that's what it is that actually will scrape the baby into pieces and scrape out the lining of the uterus. Yeah, that's what happens in a surgical abortion, a very, very early surgical abortion. So knowing what a surgical abortion entails, knowing you know, how to describe that to a mother that's going into the abortion center. Again, not just to be overly graphic, because we don't want to just be overly graphic and gross them out, but we do want them to be shocked at what they're actually subjecting themselves and their babies too. Yeah, so we can't do that unless we know about abortion procedures right. And how do you get this information? I think we're always going to say this is Google it. I mean, people ask me, how do you get this information? How do you get that? How do you how did you find out this? How do you? I just googled it. Yeah, and balance it as your Google will, and I think just had that like like what I did.

13:18 I knew I was going to be reading a very biased account when I read plant parenthoods description of what happens. Sure, so you balance it with a maybe a pro life description of what happened. I think live action probably has the best resource on this. They've even got videos. They're not like graphic videos as far as overly violent looking, right, they're just kind of, I guess, cartoon depictions almost, Yah of abortion procedures, but it's really helpful. It really shows you what's happening and they've got a former abortionist describing the procedures. Hey. Yeah, so that's helpful. Yeah, and you know, it's accurate medical information. So gathering that information is very important.

14:01 I'm going to talk real quick because there is really two different, I guess, categories of abortions that take place at abortion centers. Yeah, and a lot of folks, and I think we've mentioned this before, we actually had my wife on months and months ago talking about the abortion pill because she's actually a nurse that does the abortion pell reversals for this area and she described the abortion pell procedure. A lot of folks, though, can flate the abortion pill and the morning after pill right and if you don't know the difference, you ought to if you're going to an abortion center. There's a big difference between the morning after pell and the abortion pill. Simply put, the morning after pill is like a bunch of birth control. It's not always going to cause an abortion. Now we talked about that maybe a little bit into the birth control episode that we did. Yeah, where birth control and the morning after pill can be abortive, it can be a Bordi Facian, but it's not always the abortion pill. On the other hand, the abortion pill procedure, I will say, is always abortive, like that's the goal, right, and also, speaking in those terms, that it's not just an abortion pill, it's actually an abortion pill procedure right to medications that are involved.

15:11 So digging into that, and I think plan parenthood has a decently accurate description, obviously not using the term baby and things like that, of the abortion pill. It's been a while since I read their description, but it's not accurate in the sense that the risks that are involved, because there's some risks that are involved, or even understanding not just two procedures but the risks that are involved in the procedures is really helpful. Yeah, and so digging into this, and I'll just describe real quick. This is how I could describe it to a mother going into the abortion center, if I have a one on one conversation with her, or I've had a lot of one on one conversations with Dad's, and now ask them, do you know if she's having the abortion pill or she's doing a surgical abortion? And then if they tell me, well, she's going to do the pill, a lot of times they have in their minds, by the way, that they're going to do the abortion pill and that somehow sanitizes right, makes it less of an abortion.

16:04 Right, you know, it's like an induced miscarriage. Well, and induce miscarriage is an abortion. So if I if I get a dad that I'm talking to or a mom that I'm talking to going into the abortion center and that asked them about this and they say they're going to take the abortion bill, I'll ask them, do you know what happens in the abortion peel procedure? I did they explain to you how that how that's going to work? And I begin to explain to them, and I believe that Dr Nick Doctor, is that Anthony Leventino? Is He the dog? Right? He's the one that that talks about that that you were describing. Yeah, I believe he actually breaks this down. But back this way. I describe it to a to a mother. I said, I'll say you're going to go in there, you're going to get an ultra sound, they're going to find out how far along you are and if you're before ten weeks, if you're ten weeks or before, they're going to offer you the abortion pill, because they only do the abortion pillot to ten weeks. In that moment I'll be describing the baby. You know, your baby's heart is already been beating for several weeks. If you're ten weeks along, your baby has arms, legs, fingers and toes. It's a human being. And I'll even show them a depiction of a baby at ten weeks if I can. You know I've got to throw sure that will show them that and I'll describe to them.

17:07 They're going to give you a medication inside of their called miff a priston or Mif APREX. That's the brand name you're going to take that medication inside and they're they're going to send you home with miss a Pristol, which is side attech. It's a labor inducing drug. That first medication is going to kill your baby. It's going to shut off the blood, oxygen and nutrients, so your baby needs to stay alive. Right. Your baby's going to detach from the uterine wall and that's ultimately going to start your baby to death. Right. And then that second medication they give you to take it home is going to put you into labor and you're going to deliver your dead child at home, into the toilet, the bathtub, on the bathroom floor, whatever. Right. And that's the abortion pill procedure. Yeah, does that sound like just popping a pail and taking care of a problem? Right, it doesn't mean does it to us? And know not at all, not at all, not at all. Yeah, and there's some if you've seen the movie unplanned, yeah, which a lot of people have, the they do show a scene of a woman in the aftermath of the pill abortion and in the aftermath of the surgical abortion or during the searchical abortion, and and I think it's that's pretty accurate. It it's it's gruesome. Yeah, it's it is not just the gentle cramping that's described in in like the plant parenthood.

18:26 Yeah, thing, it's your passing huge clots and you're also passing a child. Yeah, and you will sometimes see that baby. Yeah, let me imagine that. I can't. Mom who thinks that she'd been told that her baby's just a Blob of tissue, or quite of sales right, and she's been told by the abortion center, by Plant parenthood or preferred woman's Hill Center, whatever, that she's going to pass some some clots and some tissue. That's what they say. It's gonna be some tissue. Yeah, and she's led to believe that her baby again just a blob of tissue, not really recognizable as a human being. But then she completes this procedure and she looks in the toilet and she sees her baby, I mean at nine weeks. Yeah, it's very small, it's like maybe the size of a grape, right, but still very recognizable as a human being. It's God, it's got everything in place, all its limbs, all fingers and toes. Yeah, eyes, nose, mouth. Me Think about beating harsh and I'm not sure if sometimes the baby is still alive. Yeah, when when it comes out? I have heard reports and I've seen things on Youtube of yeah, of you can still see the beating heart. Yeah, I can you imagine what that does just someone psychologically? Yeah, to see yeah, I mean could be devastating. Yeah, you can face to face with the reality of what you've done. Right, it's like and there's no going back on it.

19:47 Right, there's no undoing it. Yeah, and you were told by the people that supposedly could be trusted, you know, medical facility, that it's not a baby, and yet you see that it's recognizably it's a baby. Right, I mean it's got to be devastating, it's got to be a nerving it's got to be I mean I think it would anger some of these ladies. Yeah, and again, if you guys have seen unplanned yeah, and that description, that depiction of abortion pill procedure, that's that's accurate. My wife, again, she's a nurse. She's dealt with women who've gone through the abortion pill procedure. She's tried to help them reverse it. Unfortunately some weren't successful, and she's had to deal with these women who are bleeding. Yeah, pretty I mean massively massive. Yeah, even the plan parenthood site said lemon size clock. It's yeah, I mean that's huge.

20:38 Yeah, yeah, it is. And also, not too long ago, maybe a couple actually a couple of years ago, I got a hold of the the paperwork that they give them coming out of the abortion center after they've taken the abortion pill. Yeah, and it's got like the warnings from the National Abortion Federation where it talks about the side effects and things from the abortion pill. And one of the side effects is one out of five hundred women that go through with the abortion pell procedure will bleed so much they require a blood transfusion. That's pretty significant. That's pretty sea significant. One out of five hundred. Yeah, now, these are women who think that they're going to come just have a procedure done, going with their life. Some of them there to hide the fact that they're killing their baby through abortion or how the fact that they're pregnant. Right, they're going to end up in the hospital requiring a blood transfusion. That whole dynamic of be careful, your sin will find you out is a dynamic that these women need to be cued in on, and so if I know that information, and I can share that with a mother and again, I'm not doing it in some condemning, judgmental way, but I'm doing it in a fourth right and medically accurate way and conveying to her, listen, you might be here to have an abortion so that no one finds out your pregnant. What happens if you're one of those one out of five hundred, yeah, that end up in the hospital?

21:57 Yeah, and your parents, who you didn't want to tell that you were pregnant or that you were having an abortion, are going to have to come visit you in the hospital. Some is going to have to tend to your needs there in a hospital. Right, so must have to come pick you up from the hospital. So, knowing that, I think it's very helpful, knowing the side effects of these abortion procedures and knowing, again, how to describe these abortion procedures, Hey, so that you can help hearts turn away from it. Yes, really important. Yeah, it's one thing to say abortion is horrific. It's another to say what we just said and to where that that picture has bit painted for them. We're not lying and we're not we're not sensationalize in it, right, just telling the facts. This is what happens. Now I will use the terms and I'm describing to a mother the abortion procedures, I'm not going to use the the term like fetus or pregnancy, things like that, like I'm going to pass your pregnancy or right, you know whatever. Now I'm going to use the term baby.

22:51 Yep, because that's what it is. Yep, and these women know it. Yep. They're not deceived in the fact that when they saw the two lines on the pregnancy test, they didn't think, oh, I got a Blob, a tissue. No, I'm having a baby. They recognize that. So I'm going to talk to them on those terms and we do that in our literature, literature that we hand out. It describes these abortion procedures and it uses the term baby. Might use the term fetus in a couple places because that's an accurate term. Right. Fetis just means little one, and so when I'm describing these procedures, I use the terminology that they can relate to instead of trying to get to like medical and lofty, right, you know. And the plan parenthood says product of conception, yeah, lost or contents of the Torus. Yeah, that's what that's how they presented, so that people can distance themselves from the truth. Yeah, yeah, another thing I will mention, as I'm talking about the abortion pill, in the abortion pill procedure or that I mentioned earlier, but I'll be intentional, is I will mention the the names of the medications. If a PRISTON, miss a Pristol, these are like what these medications are called, and makes you seem like you know what you're talking about, and you do know you're talking about. I can never remember, though. I should write him on my hand. Well, I'm a southern boy. Okay, so probably I'm not pronouncing exactly right. Is How I've heard them pronounced. Okay before. Yeah, so I'm sure you can maybe get more technical with it, but it is helpful to know the names of the medication. Listen, half the the people that work inside the abortion clinic have no clue. They couldn't describe to

24:23 you what an abortion peal procedure in tails. They don't know themselves. These are the people involved in the procedures, right. So, anyway, if you're informed your you put yourself in a good position to inform others. Right. Have no fellowship with the in fruit for works of darks, rather expose them. Ephesians five hundred and eleven, I believe. How do we expose the in fruit for works of darkness? We do it with the truth. Yeah, that's the truth of God's word. But also this is a medical facts. These things, these facts, can help expose the in fruit for work of darkness, that abortion. Yeah, this is a way to respond. I've heard it so frequently today I heard it and I heard it yester day counseling someone, I'm so many times I've heard them say take God out of the equation. Now my first sentence to them is, you can't take out out of the equation, but if you could look at what happens.

25:15 Yeah, an abortion. Does that sound like something that a civilized society should do to a vulnerable human being? Anyway? So, pills, not even I mean they're all they're all horrific. But surgical. Describe a surgical that's yeah, so early opinion, much more horrific. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, the surgical now here, and we've actually found this out pretty pretty across the board nationally, that plan parenthood and the other abortion centers actually push surgical abortions more than the medical abortions, and they do that because it's kind of a one and done thing, right, especially early surgical abortion, which typically is called a suction aspiration abortion and even equated to like a DNC, dilation and cure Taj yeah, and DNC typically would be applied to somebody who's miscarried in the contents of the uterus, right, the child that's already died, yeah, would actually be removed. Yeah, but a DNC is just again, it's a dilation in curettage. So, right, suction is involved in that a lot of times. Yeah, and the curates involved in scraping the lining of the uterus. But early surgical abortion, typically called a suction aspiration of her abortion or a vacuum aspiration abortion, is an essence where they take a suction machine, HMM, and I think it's, like I think they say, twenty nine times stronger than a household vacuums. It has really very powerful suction. Imagine, and this is how I describe it to the women going into the abortion center, because most people can relate to this.

26:42 But you know when you go to the dentist and they spray the water in your mouth and they go to the section thing. Yeah, it's like that always sucks my tongue out of the second spit. It's actually a very similar device, right. It's a tube with a hole in the end of it that'll be inserted into the uterus and actually the baby will be sucked into pieces. So the abortionist will move that, that tubing around in the uterus and it'll suck everything that it can get ahold of out. Yeah, because the baby's so fragile yet at that time that that the baby is literally ripped apart by the force of the suction. That's go for read. Yeah, yeah, and so, yeah, the babies in essence sucked apart when from limb? Yeah, like you said, very delicate at that point. Yeah, and typically it suction aspiration abortion is between like five and fourteen weeks or so, depending on the abortion center. Different abortion centers do things different ways, but suction will still be used even in later abortions to help clean out the air, quotes contents of the uterus. Hey, and almost always a curate will be used to scrape the lining of the uterus and then after the lining of the uterus is scraped, then more suction because they want to empty the quote contents of the uterus. So you don't encourage you guys to access those videos. That DR and Anthony Levantino, I think that's his name.

28:11 Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, he does it for a live action right, and I one time. I think we may still have those on our sidewalks for life website. I believe their on there. You guys can dig arount let me know if you find them there. One time they were there. I had them linked on the website so people can access in pretty easily. We shifted things around a little bit so then it may not still be there, but either way you can go on Youtube can find these and he describes these procedures. He subscribes it more in detailed again, there's a graphic depiction. When I say graphic, I don't mean like overly violent, I just mean a visual you can see. And some of our sidewalk missionaries in the Bronx, I think a couple of weeks ago, actually use one of those videos to show to a mom going into the abortion center what could happen to her baby. Yeah, and of course you know the further you get along in the pregnancy, the more I mean gruesome. I guess in the description of these abortions. It is. I mean it's one thing sucking a baby apart, limb from limb. That's that's that's graphic, that's that's a horrible thing. When you're talking about literally grabbing a whole of pieces of a child and tearing them off, literally of a living child. They that's what I've heard described. It's that they grab and it's blind, yes, not ultrasound guided in most cases. It certainly isn't. Here we know it's blind.

29:27 They go in blindly, the the abortionists and grabs whatever he can find and twist and wrenches that that part of the baby. Often that's of a living child without anistation. Yeah, that typically would be in like the fifteen week of pregnancy when they're doing what's called a Dne. So early abortion to be a suction aspiration abortion or a DNC. Yeah, and then later only be a DNA, Dne dilation in evacuation, right where they're actually going in with physical tools like forceps and clamps and actually pulling the baby out piece by peas. Typically, depending on how big the baby is, how far long she is, typically it could be a two day procedure where they're inserting what's called Lemon area, which are like little seaweed, sort of like best description, maybe many tampons, so to speak, and they're inserted into the cervix, which is the open opening of the uterus, and they're let to sit there for several hours, twelve hours, twenty four hours sometimes, and they expand, they expand the CERVIC slowly so it doesn't get torn. And then the second day of the procedure, the abortions to actually remove those lament area and then use kind of little comb devices to expand the cervix further, depending again how big the baby is. Yeah, and then once he gets the service expanded to where he thinks he can get his instruments in there, he'll begin to dismember the babies right. These procedures, you know, you're talking early surgical abortions, five to ten minutes. Yeah, ladder on. Yeah, it later Dne like I think you have in this article, ten to

30:59 twenty minutes, very short procedures. Think about what's happening though. Baby's dying in this procedure. Yeah, and it's horrendous. Yeah, but we can't convey this information to a mom going into the abortion center. Unless we know it ourselves. So support for us to be informed. Guys, I need to be informed of these procedures, not just to gross people out, but to inform people of the darkness again, yeah, the UNFRUF work of darkness that abortion actually is exactly, and that that then dovetails into the the second key point of information that we need to know about, which is the facts about fetal development. And the reason why that's so critical, especially if, following the knowledge of what happens in an abortion is pointing out how developed these babies are and and that you can, you really can start to picture of this is a little human being undergoing all of this terrible stuff. But in most abortions occur in the first trimester, so the first twelve weeks of of that baby's life in the womb, and it is good to know those key facts in the first trimester because you can't memorize too much of human development because most of us just can't remember it. But if we can remember some of those really critical Cole milestones, it's really valuable. Yeah, in most, I know in the abortion centers here, they don't do abortions prior to five

32:31 weeks because at five weeks is when they can detect the beating heart and they have to detect the beating heart before they kill the baby. They have to know the babies alive before they kill the baby. So really knowing what happens between five to twelve weeks. And some of the key things are the heart is beating as early as seventeen days. I've even read research that now believe sixteen days after conception, but most people will readily agree eighteen to twenty one days. So if that mother is Mr Period, that baby's heart is already beating. So that's a pretty key milestone to mention. The next one is at six weeks a baby has detectable brain waves. Six weeks after conception detectable brain waves. Another key point is at eight weeks every organ in place, because that little baby is so much more developed than they understand. Yeah, also by eight weeks, between five to eight weeks, that child already has arms, legs, head, spine, brain beginning, toe and finger buds, and then eight to nine weeks is when the toes and fingers have developed.

33:43 In at nine weeks that baby has unique little fingerprints and I think that's a really key milestone. Because I will then use that to spring board into a discussion about odd because I've always wondered why, even as an atheist, why unique fingerprints? Why Bother? And if we're all evolved, then would we have unique fingerprints or would they all be the same? But anyway, to me it just speaks so powerfully our fingerprints that we are uniquely marked by God as being valuable and special. US me that little baby, every individual is uniquely special before God. Yeah, so those are all great facts about fetal development that are fairly easy to memorize and there is a great application for your phone that's free called see baby, see baby, which is not a pro life APP. It's a secular, science based, informational series of videos and facts about what happens in in that first forty weeks of life, and it's really good to show moms that. Yeah. So a a third important area of information to know is what are some key Bible versus? Have the memorized, have them written down, have them ready to present to the Moms, because we're Gospel Focus Ministry and we all know hearts are not going to change till till the Gospel is introduced. That you've got to know why life

35:20 is a value you and ultimately, the Gospel is is the the reason, and and so some of we've mentioned so many times. So I won't go into detail about all of these. Yeah, well, these manors, says, Google it. Google. Good pro life versus. Yeah, but some of the ones. Real quick though. Jeremiah one hundred and five, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. There's God telling Jeremiah he knew him and he formed him. Right, Genesis one hundred and twenty seven, God created man and his own image. Yeah, that's what gives all US value. Absolutely critical. First to know Psalm one hundred and twenty seven, verse three. Children are a blessing from the Lord. The fruit of the WOMB is his reward. Someone thirty nine, verses thirteen and fourteen.

36:01 Is What I use and you go away. You have in this article the way to Verse Sixteen. The whole of Psalm one hundred and thirty nine is is but yeah, now always called yeah, born. I call it the love the love letter from God to the unborn. Yeah, is someone thirty nine. And if you don't know someone thirty nine, like, are you even a Christian? Right, probably not. You could wrote a life Christian at all. You should know that, but now you should have that memorize to at least have written down. You. You write versus down. You have them a little index. I do, yeah, and I've got them with me. Yeah, so it's important with like we need to know the word of God. Dig into this subject. Listen, this is this podcast is not just for us to give you information, right, this is for US strongly encourage you to dig for this information yourself. You know, if you dig for the information for yourself, it gets solidified in your heart.

36:51 That's like when somebody when you, when you study a particular subject in the scripture, doesn't it stick in your heart more than when somebody just preaches it to you? In both aspects are important, but when you dig into it yourself it sticks with you. Yeah, or you have come up against a crisis and you have scoured the scriptures for help in that crisis, then you you never forget it. Those are the scripture that had become my favorite. Yeah, absolutely, so. Yeah, and so the next key point here is information. As far as information that you would gather in preparation from going out to the abortion center or, as you're ministering out of the abortion center. We're not just saying you have to have all this together before you go out, but this is information you need to be digging for as you're going out, right. So, fourthly, have information about abortion clinics and providers, the local abortion centers and the local abortion for providers for the city of the year in you should know the best you can who they are.

37:45 If you can find out who the abortionist is, you can help a mother to choose life for her baby by sharing with her the track record or the abortionist, because it's usually not good. Usually not good, right. Almost no one aspires to be an abortionist. I go to medical school, right. They typically have different citations on their medical license, problems. I mean, I think we've shared with you guys before several times about Dr Ron Vermonti, one of the abortionists here Charlotte, who was arrested for rate yeah, who has a had to surrenders medical license because of sexual misconduct with one of his patients. He's got kicked out of Presbyterian hospital here, the local hospital can't practice to the local hospitals. This is important stuff to know as best you can. This is hard to find and some abortion centers and Plant parenthood is pretty protective of this information. Yet they don't give out the name.

38:35 So you got a Dick for that. Yeah. So I mean again, this is information we want you guys to dig for. Will Give you a couple of resources and we do that in the online training that we do. Check my clinic, Dot Org. Yeah, that's a really good one. Yeah, that that shows the track record, normally of the abortion clinics themselves and maybe some information about the abortionist abortion doctors that are there. Yeah, abortion Docs dot org is another important resource. They've got more information about the abortionist right and the different abortion clinics, the different times at these abortion clinics have been shut down, yeah, or when ambulances visited that clinic and things like that. So dig for that information there. You know, another thing that I didn't know was on check my clinic, but when I wrote this article I saw it, is they have the facts for each state. What are the abortion laws in that state? And that's important information for you to know and you can find. So you can find all that, yeah, like my clinic got, or absolutely, and maybe have yourself a bullet pointed sheet. That's what we do here. Locally. We have a bullet pointed sheet for each abortion clinic and it's just a one page deal and it's more for our use than it is to share with the mother there's going into the abortion center and it just kind of shows us and when we're on the microphone conveying this information, we can talk about it one on one. We're talking about it. And so, yeah, just different bullet points about the abortion center and then at the bottom of that sheet the different bullet points about the abortionists that are there. Yeah, can share with them. Yeah, then you know who the abortionisty is. Hey, here's what their track record and

40:06 ultimately, you are you are working to show them. You are putting your trust, young ladies and some in places and people and a whole industry that you should not trust. Yeah, so are our last local refs are last key point is learning about the be familiar with local resources. And again, Google, I mean that's the easiest way to say, is Google, Google housing, Google child care, Google maternity homes. So it's going to be unique to to where, wherever you are, but it is important to try and find out and have maybees a list of things that you can present to the moms, because the what they want more than anything, we've heard from so many as help. yeahgible help, and that's in line with the three talking points that we touch on. Right. You know what God says about this, and mostly these key points have have centered around that. What God says about this, what God says about the baby, about the mother.

41:02 But abortion, yeah, the humanity of the baby and involved with the humanity the baby, I think describing the abortion procedures is kind of involved under that same topic. True, it's, yeah, because you're describing the graphic nature procedure based on the way that child is developed, and so that's really talking about the humanity of the baby. And then the resources that are available. You can't offer resources that you don't know about, right, and so digging for those resources and just thinking in your mind. If you're a young mother, you're scared, your pregnant, what are some of the things you'd be concerned about? Yeah, you'd be concerned about, I mean your parents, right, you be concerned about telling your parents. Maybe there's a local counseling resource for Young, UNMED, unwed mothers. I mean there's so much stuff out there. You'd be concerned about items for the baby. Maybe there's a local ministry that provides free baby items. Yeah, you, because our CE resource centers. I didn't mention that, and they do provide all those things and resources. oftentimes you're already developed them. Yeah, and I'd say, above and beyond any resource that you find like what you just mentioned. Yeah, making the connection with your local pregnancy resource center, right, is vital.

42:13 It is. I do everything you can to build a good relationship with a local pregnancy resource center. Yeah, and likely they'll have stuff in place. It kind of already has this information gathered. They'll certainly have fetal development information, maybe pamphlets that they can give you that can help you be informed about these things. They'll probably have things about abortion procedures and describing those that they give to the mothers that come in their doors that can help you out. Yeah, they'll likely again have a list of resources beyond their own ministry. Housing, you know, doctors at see you these women free of charge, other things like that. Right, and and it's just good practice to have a good relationship with them. Yeah, because if you're standing there in front of the abortion center, it's good to be able to point these MOMS in another direction to say don't go in there. Go in this place, which has free ultrasound, free precnancy test, it does everything except kill the baby. Yeah, absolutely. So I think that was all we wanted to cover under this topic and we hope that it was a blessing to you guys.

43:16 We hope that we helped equip you guys in preparing to have the right information out in front of the abortion center, and so we do want to strongly encourage you. I mean we want you to reach out to us, give us suggestions for podcast, but as far as reaching out to us trying to gather this information, I think we've equipped you guys enough. We want you to go on Google, check out doctr Google and he'll give you all kinds of information and, like I said, I want you guys to make this your own. If I give you all the information, if I dig and find the information about your abortion center, dig and find the information about the abortionist and his track record, I mean I don't have the time for all that for everybody, to do that for everybody, but anyway, I don't think you would take ownership of it as much as if you were to dig for it yourself and yourself be horrified like we have been as we've dug into the the track record to some of these abortions for like I can't believe.

44:06 I mean I can believe, but I can't believe this. It's still allowed to practice medicine. Well, it's not met and but why is he allowed to touch it come anywhere near a picture? Absolutely yeah. So we won't encourage you guys to dig for this information. Have this information in one spot. If you've got folks that you're ministering with alongside you, share this information with them and listen. This is helpful, this is equipping and we hope the next couple of episodes are going to be helpful and equipping for you guys. So, as always, you read out to me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. You reach out to her, Vicky at Love Life Dot Org, and let us know if you have suggestions for other podcast maybe you need some clarification on something we've covered in a in this podcast or in a previous podcast. We'd love to hear from you, but until next time, God bless our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude.

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