Sidewalk Training: Calling out

WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:08.109 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me, 2 00:00:08.470 --> 00:00:13.710 Lord, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center pro life 3 00:00:13.789 --> 00:00:17.390 podcast. In this episode we're going to continue to do some training and talk 4 00:00:17.429 --> 00:00:21.149 about calling out to those going into the abortion center. We think this will 5 00:00:21.149 --> 00:00:29.980 be a blessing to you, so stay tuned. I felt show passis touch 6 00:00:30.420 --> 00:00:40.729 your heart. Use Me. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 7 00:00:40.890 --> 00:00:45.490 We appreciate you guys tuning in as always. Appreciate you guys listening to this 8 00:00:45.649 --> 00:00:49.450 podcast and also would appreciate if you would share this podcast, if you would 9 00:00:49.450 --> 00:00:54.479 leave us a positive review. We'd love to just get some positive reviews to 10 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:58.640 cover up some of the bad, nasty negative reviews. And some of those 11 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.390 negative reviews are still coming in. Actually. We've got like eighteen, almost 12 00:01:03.390 --> 00:01:08.510 one Thousan nineteen hundred reviews on our podcast and ninety eight percent of those are 13 00:01:08.590 --> 00:01:14.390 negative from our pro abortion friends who hate what we're doing. But, as 14 00:01:14.469 --> 00:01:18.390 we always say, if the enemy is pushing back, you know you're doing 15 00:01:18.469 --> 00:01:21.659 the right thing. Right you're over the target if the enemy is firing at 16 00:01:21.739 --> 00:01:23.859 you. So we're over the target. Least we hope that we are. 17 00:01:25.219 --> 00:01:27.620 We hope we're over the target with it, with training and equipping you guys. 18 00:01:27.659 --> 00:01:32.459 Hopefully you've been blessed by our past I don't know how many weeks we've 19 00:01:32.459 --> 00:01:36.090 been doing training episodes, maybe five, six weeks, something like that. 20 00:01:36.290 --> 00:01:41.969 That yeah, and hopefully this episode will be a blessing as we continue to 21 00:01:42.010 --> 00:01:47.519 talk about training and cover some of the aspects that we train in our sidewalk 22 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:52.480 one hundred and one training we mentioned while we're doing this is so that we 23 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.799 can go in in depth a little more about some of the subjects that we 24 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.400 cover in our training that we're not able to go in very much depth. 25 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:00.989 It is a one hundred and one training that we do. One hundred and 26 00:02:01.030 --> 00:02:07.989 one just kind of like basic surface level stuff, but folks want more, 27 00:02:07.469 --> 00:02:12.909 so we're going to dig in more. We're going to dig into today calling 28 00:02:12.949 --> 00:02:16.419 out there kind of four aspects. Was We talked last time about the three 29 00:02:16.460 --> 00:02:20.580 talking points that we share. Right, the three talking points that we touch 30 00:02:20.659 --> 00:02:23.900 on is we're talking to an abortion mind of mom dad, people going into 31 00:02:23.900 --> 00:02:28.139 the abortion center, and there's really four different scenarios, I guess, in 32 00:02:28.219 --> 00:02:35.689 which you, which you vocalize or visualize as we talked about signage. That's 33 00:02:35.729 --> 00:02:38.810 one of the four ways that you reach out to people using these three talking 34 00:02:38.889 --> 00:02:42.490 points, is through signage. I don't know that we'll do a podcast about 35 00:02:42.490 --> 00:02:46.120 that, since we did do one couple of months back about signage specifically. 36 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.240 But this one's about calling out. So the four aspects of reaching out to 37 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:58.039 abortion mind of women are calling out, handing out literature, one on one 38 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.069 conversations and signage. There's a kind of the four ways for modes of communication 39 00:03:02.629 --> 00:03:07.270 at an abortion center. Yeah, and so today we're going to talk about 40 00:03:07.830 --> 00:03:12.349 calling out, and what we mean by that is simply raising your voice so 41 00:03:12.430 --> 00:03:15.860 that you can be heard. This is not at some abortion centers, like 42 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.659 our folks that are in Manhattan and some of the other abortion centers, or 43 00:03:19.699 --> 00:03:22.699 some of our folks are, this is not something they're really going to employ. 44 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:25.219 True, they're on the sidewalk. You don't want to be yelling at 45 00:03:25.219 --> 00:03:29.370 somebody as they're walking towards you on the sidewalk. Yeah, but in our 46 00:03:29.370 --> 00:03:32.930 scenario here in Charlotte, at every one of the abortion centers, I guess 47 00:03:32.969 --> 00:03:37.169 here in Charlotte you get some flit traffic from time to time, but for 48 00:03:37.210 --> 00:03:39.810 the most part is vehicular traffic. People are pulling into a parking lot, 49 00:03:40.090 --> 00:03:44.159 getting out of their car, walking to the door of the abortion center and 50 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.719 we're talking about calling out, we're talking about communicating to them across the parking 51 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.280 lot to ultimately come over and talk to you. Right, they're at a 52 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.750 distance from US and actually most, I think, in unless you're like in 53 00:03:54.789 --> 00:03:59.870 a big city where it's only the people walking up, you're going to have 54 00:03:59.990 --> 00:04:03.030 to call out for them to hear you from a distance. And just to 55 00:04:03.110 --> 00:04:06.629 touch real quick when we've covered the three talking points in the last episode, 56 00:04:08.830 --> 00:04:12.659 we're including them in this calling out like those are the things that we're calling 57 00:04:12.699 --> 00:04:15.659 out. Those three talking points will probably go over there over those, so 58 00:04:15.900 --> 00:04:18.500 I'll just touch on them real quick. What God says, the humanity of 59 00:04:18.540 --> 00:04:24.220 the baby and the recess resources that are available. There's to the three points 60 00:04:24.259 --> 00:04:28.250 that we're going to touch on in calling out. But let's talk real quick 61 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:32.329 about what is our goal, and we did touch in the touch on this 62 00:04:32.529 --> 00:04:40.000 in the three talking points podcast, what our goal is. But I won't 63 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:45.360 folks understand like when I say our goal is not just to deliver information. 64 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.879 We certainly want to deliver information. We've got ten or fifteen seconds and in 65 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.470 our last episode we gave an example of what we might call out to someone 66 00:04:54.550 --> 00:04:57.310 going into the abortion center, how we might touch on those three talking points. 67 00:04:57.310 --> 00:05:00.069 I gave mine, you gave yours. Right. So we certainly want 68 00:05:00.069 --> 00:05:04.790 to deliver information. We want the information that we do, the the fifteen 69 00:05:04.910 --> 00:05:11.259 second pitch or plea, like you said right, that we give, we 70 00:05:11.379 --> 00:05:15.379 want it to be sufficient to bring the truth to the people going in, 71 00:05:15.620 --> 00:05:18.220 because the reality is, for the most part they're not going to stop in 72 00:05:18.259 --> 00:05:20.339 their tracks, turn around and come over and talk to us. Right. 73 00:05:21.170 --> 00:05:26.689 So we want to give sufficient information, but we also want we don't want 74 00:05:26.689 --> 00:05:30.250 to just have a mentality of well, I'm just going to give information and 75 00:05:30.329 --> 00:05:33.889 that's it. We want them to come over and engage with us more in 76 00:05:34.089 --> 00:05:38.279 depth. HMM, yeah, yeah, so that's kind of the bottom line 77 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.480 purpose. We want them to come and talk with us. But there's a 78 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:48.879 there's other purposes that are probably even more important really, as believers and followers 79 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.629 of Christ. Yeah, we want to obey God. We're there. Are 80 00:05:53.750 --> 00:05:58.149 One of our goals and calling out as we are obeying God in what he 81 00:05:58.389 --> 00:06:00.430 tells us, in speaking for those who can't speak for themselves. Yeah. 82 00:06:00.629 --> 00:06:08.100 So, so we are obeying God and presumably glorifying him. Yeah, in 83 00:06:08.420 --> 00:06:13.379 in what we're calling out and that we are conveying truth. Yeah, that 84 00:06:13.579 --> 00:06:16.180 that our goal is, that we convey truth. So, while we want 85 00:06:16.220 --> 00:06:21.170 them to come talk with us, we wouldn't lie to have them come talk 86 00:06:21.250 --> 00:06:27.170 with us, because that would not reach that very important goal of conveying God's 87 00:06:27.290 --> 00:06:30.449 truth. Yeah, to them. Yeah, and other truth, scientific truth 88 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:36.560 as well, baby development truth. But we're speaking truth and in obedience to 89 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.079 God. And I think maybe there's more you can think of, but to 90 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.560 me, as I was thinking about it, I always love starting with the 91 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.910 thought of why am I there? What is my purpose? Because my purpose 92 00:06:49.589 --> 00:06:57.430 I can probably fulfill if, if it's clear, yeah, to to what 93 00:06:57.589 --> 00:07:01.819 that purpose is, and purpose is maybe different from results. Yeah. So 94 00:07:02.259 --> 00:07:05.500 that's why I like to think about that from from the get go and train 95 00:07:05.579 --> 00:07:09.779 our counselors to think about that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, 96 00:07:09.860 --> 00:07:13.660 first and foremost, we're out there in obedience to God. We're not out 97 00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:18.529 there just to make ourselves feel like better Christians or anything like that. We're 98 00:07:18.569 --> 00:07:23.610 other in obedience to God and the results are up to the Lord. Yeah, 99 00:07:24.129 --> 00:07:29.769 but under that kind of the overarching purpose or goal is to obey God. 100 00:07:29.930 --> 00:07:33.120 Yeah, proverbs eighty nine, open your mouth for the speechless and the 101 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.079 cause of all who are pointed to die. Open your mouth, judge, 102 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:41.079 righteously, plead the cause of the poor and needy. That's what we're doing. 103 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.230 We're calling out, we're pleading the cause of those babies that are poor 104 00:07:45.389 --> 00:07:48.550 needy. We're doing that first and foremost in obedience to God, and then 105 00:07:48.550 --> 00:07:54.189 we're doing that out of compassion for that baby. Right. Yeah, and 106 00:07:54.870 --> 00:07:59.060 so, yeah, as a kind of, I guess, low level goal 107 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:03.500 under the under the high level goal of glorifying God. The low level goal 108 00:08:03.660 --> 00:08:07.939 can be, though, again, not just delivering information, not just delivering 109 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:13.610 truth, right, but delivering truth in such a way that it would compel 110 00:08:13.449 --> 00:08:16.250 one of the mothers going into the abortion center to actually come over and to 111 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:22.009 engage with us in a conversation. Yeah, and there's a way that we 112 00:08:22.089 --> 00:08:26.360 can do that. Listen, I've done the I think now, from this 113 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.840 perspective, now being out there for years, the ineffective just delivering information, 114 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:37.480 mm, just calling out whatever comes to mind, whatever truth might come to 115 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.149 mind. Listen, you can say a true thing in a wrong way. 116 00:08:41.470 --> 00:08:46.350 Right, you can deliver truth. The Bible says if you bless your brother 117 00:08:46.509 --> 00:08:50.230 early in the morning loudly, it will be perceived as a curse. Yeah, 118 00:08:50.429 --> 00:08:54.389 that's in proverbs. Yeah, forget the chapter in verse, but I 119 00:08:54.750 --> 00:08:58.940 promise you it's in there. Yeah, so there is like timing can matter. 120 00:08:58.019 --> 00:09:01.580 If you bless your brother early in the morning, I mean you could 121 00:09:01.580 --> 00:09:05.539 speak a wonderful blessing of your brother, but do it really loud right early 122 00:09:05.580 --> 00:09:09.740 in the morning, he's not going to be blessed by yes, and timing. 123 00:09:09.860 --> 00:09:11.769 Timing and manner are both important, and we actually do talk about this 124 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:16.450 a little bit later. I'm in manner. The delivery doesn't matter. It 125 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:20.970 does. And so you can be speaking and you can speak some really foundational 126 00:09:20.009 --> 00:09:22.970 truths to a mother going into the abustion center. But if you're timing is 127 00:09:24.129 --> 00:09:30.159 off and if you're your demeanor and the way that you come across as far 128 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.960 as like yelling frantically, if that's not in check, right then it can 129 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.070 just be it can be perceived as a curse. Right, right, right. 130 00:09:39.470 --> 00:09:45.110 So, so we know that we need to speak truth and we know 131 00:09:45.190 --> 00:09:48.549 that we need to glorify God. Yeah, and we want them to come 132 00:09:48.669 --> 00:09:52.269 to speak to us. So how do we do that? So you touched 133 00:09:52.350 --> 00:09:54.700 on on many of them. One of them, I think, one of 134 00:09:54.740 --> 00:09:58.460 the first things, because it's the first thing they're going to see, is 135 00:09:58.700 --> 00:10:01.139 our demeanor. Yeah, you know what we look like, and I don't 136 00:10:01.179 --> 00:10:07.409 mean are we pretty or ugly or anything like that, but are we do 137 00:10:07.570 --> 00:10:11.049 we seem approachable, right? And how can we do that? How can 138 00:10:11.090 --> 00:10:16.409 we make our ourselves up here as approachable as possible? Yeah, I think 139 00:10:16.450 --> 00:10:20.840 one of the most basic ways is having a smile on your face. Yes, 140 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.440 like with anything, if someone has a smile on their face, it 141 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.720 makes them look and feel more approachable. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, 142 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.759 even though it's a heavy scenario, they're killing babies inside of that place. 143 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:39.149 Yeah, and it's reason for us to to look really under it, 144 00:10:39.990 --> 00:10:46.269 really sad, or being great or angry. Yep, Yep, that's not 145 00:10:46.429 --> 00:10:48.990 going to be what compels a person to come over and talk to us. 146 00:10:48.029 --> 00:10:52.980 And the reality is that there's still a God, Jesus Christ is still on 147 00:10:54.139 --> 00:10:56.620 His throne, even if they're killing babies inside of that place. And if 148 00:10:56.659 --> 00:11:00.860 you're a child of God, you belong to the Lord he has saved you, 149 00:11:00.980 --> 00:11:03.740 and so you have every reason, in spite of all the the stuff 150 00:11:03.740 --> 00:11:07.049 that goes on in the world, you have every reason to have joy and 151 00:11:07.210 --> 00:11:11.330 to let that joy show forth on your face, in your demeanor. You 152 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:13.690 know, when I go walking through the mall, back in the old days, 153 00:11:13.730 --> 00:11:18.120 when I could go walking through the mall without a face covered up. 154 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:24.879 Yeah, those people that are hawking the jewelry and the the perfumes and stuff, 155 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.080 you know, that stand in the middle, awesome middle. We can 156 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.399 learn a lot from them. Okay, thanks. Think about the ones that 157 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:37.029 you're willing to pause, and almost always they're always smiling. They're smiling, 158 00:11:37.029 --> 00:11:43.470 but oftentimes they use humor. And the ones that use humor I will stop 159 00:11:43.590 --> 00:11:46.259 and speak to sometimes because they make me laugh. Yeah, so, not 160 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.740 that you know what's happening at the abortion center is is certainly not funny. 161 00:11:50.779 --> 00:11:56.299 It's the furthest thing from funny. But if you become very human in in 162 00:11:56.500 --> 00:12:01.340 not only that you look approachable with a smile, but maybe even say something 163 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:07.450 that is lighthearted. And I you know, I'm not thinking of anything right 164 00:12:07.570 --> 00:12:13.450 offhand, but I know I've used that before. Something like they'll have something 165 00:12:13.610 --> 00:12:18.159 on their shirt that says, I don't know, talk to me. I 166 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.519 don't know if that is something I've ever actually seen, but if I see 167 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.679 that, that to me is like a moment of where you can use a 168 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.720 little bit of humor in calling at them. Hey, even your shirt says 169 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.509 come talk to me, so he come talk with me, and I've heard 170 00:12:31.549 --> 00:12:35.549 you use humor before and I wish I could think of a better example. 171 00:12:35.549 --> 00:12:39.269 I can't, but as you're thinking about when you're trying to call out to 172 00:12:39.389 --> 00:12:45.220 women in terms of the demeanor, that the more human you are. You're 173 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:52.379 not just there as they think you are, which is to condemn and tell 174 00:12:52.460 --> 00:12:58.929 them everything that they are doing wrong, but you're there too because you're you 175 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:05.090 want something very valuable for them to happen and to be conveyed. Yeah, 176 00:13:05.090 --> 00:13:09.370 I think it's that kind of just relational aspect, yeah, that we need 177 00:13:09.450 --> 00:13:13.000 to be thinking about. We want to build a relationship with them and in 178 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:18.080 a very short time. Yeah, and at the beginning of any relationship there 179 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.120 has to be kind of like breaking the ice right, you think about it. 180 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.759 We always talked about Ray Comfort. Yeah, talk about his evangelism. 181 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:28.509 If you ever watch any of his videos, the dude is so funny. 182 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:31.669 Now money. That's a good example. I love the way that he relates 183 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.710 to people. Yeah, I'm not talking about like in front of the abortion 184 00:13:35.789 --> 00:13:39.509 clinic, like we're cracking jokes and where, you know, I'm calling out 185 00:13:39.509 --> 00:13:41.059 across the parking lot, right, cracking some joke. Right, knock, 186 00:13:41.059 --> 00:13:45.059 knock, who's there? Anything like that. Talking about that, right. 187 00:13:45.779 --> 00:13:48.460 But he is, I think the word that using this article winsome. winsome, 188 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:54.460 and he is humorous and he does have some really humorous comebacks and just 189 00:13:54.620 --> 00:13:56.889 things that really stick in your mind. And well, I can think of 190 00:13:56.009 --> 00:14:00.730 one that he said that really struck me because I've used it since, is 191 00:14:01.049 --> 00:14:05.210 is he'll go through where people have broken the commandments to help them to be 192 00:14:05.330 --> 00:14:07.129 aware of their sin, and he'll say, have you ever told a lie? 193 00:14:07.570 --> 00:14:11.080 And then they'll pausitate no, and he said, well, now you 194 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:18.000 just proved that that that right because you just lied and they laugh. They 195 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:24.710 laugh. So getting laughter. If if it's it has to be careful. 196 00:14:24.750 --> 00:14:28.149 You have to be careful with these humor. But yeah, and I think 197 00:14:28.269 --> 00:14:33.509 really what we're talking about is not being a sidewalk comedian, more talking about 198 00:14:33.950 --> 00:14:37.620 being relatable, right, being like you said, a human being, because 199 00:14:37.659 --> 00:14:43.220 what they're expecting is what they've been told by the abortion clinic, Plan parenthood 200 00:14:43.220 --> 00:14:46.340 or whatever the abortion clinic business is where they called and made their appointment. 201 00:14:46.340 --> 00:14:50.940 Yeah, sometimes they tell him this. Sometimes I think they don't, but 202 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:54.529 we've heard here locally they tell him you're going to encounter a bunch of angry 203 00:14:54.529 --> 00:14:58.370 protesters on the sidewalk. Ignore them and, if you can really ride a 204 00:14:58.370 --> 00:15:03.570 away show them that what they were told on the phone is not true. 205 00:15:03.649 --> 00:15:07.159 It might help them start on the pathway to doubting the other things that they 206 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:11.279 were told. They were told, and I've heard this from people come walking 207 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.240 up to me. Hey, they told me you guys are a bunch of 208 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:18.159 angry protesters, and doesn't seem like you guys are angry at all. Seems 209 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.279 like you're out here to help people. I mean you have literally had abortion 210 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.230 minded dad's come over and talking with me because what they heard that we were 211 00:15:24.269 --> 00:15:28.509 we weren't right, and it helps me kind of chip away at some of 212 00:15:28.509 --> 00:15:31.830 the other things that they were told by the abortion clinic. Yeah, very 213 00:15:31.870 --> 00:15:33.710 good, he's not a baby. Yeah, that the doctors are good people. 214 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:37.059 Yeah, they are going to help them with their issue. Yeah, 215 00:15:39.019 --> 00:15:41.580 so, yeah, being human, being relatable, because again, the goal 216 00:15:41.820 --> 00:15:46.779 is ultimately to glorify God and so we're not going to be, you know, 217 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.490 we're not going to be talking about how cool it is smoked pot or 218 00:15:50.570 --> 00:15:54.090 something like that, because we got to honor God first. But we do 219 00:15:54.250 --> 00:15:58.049 want them to ultimately come over and talk with us. So being relatable show 220 00:15:58.049 --> 00:16:00.649 them that you're a human being. I mean, I've seen things. Maybe 221 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:04.679 an example would be I see somebody going in with a with a star wars 222 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.440 t shirt on it, especially if I see him with the Mandalorian. I 223 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:12.960 know you probably haven't watched that. No, but I have and I like 224 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.190 the shows pretty cool. And really the overarching theme of the Mandalorian is that 225 00:16:18.350 --> 00:16:22.870 real men protect children, like his whole because whole thing through the whole episode 226 00:16:22.950 --> 00:16:27.590 is protecting the child, the little baby Yoda, and so if I see 227 00:16:27.590 --> 00:16:32.629 a man with a baby Yoda or with the Mandalorian something around his shirt or 228 00:16:32.669 --> 00:16:33.940 whatever, I'm a play on that. Yeah, and I might be a 229 00:16:34.019 --> 00:16:37.460 little humorous with it, but I want him to come over and talk with 230 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.259 me. I want to be relatable and I think that's the main point with 231 00:16:41.419 --> 00:16:45.299 this is that want to be relatable, want to be approachable. Well, 232 00:16:45.379 --> 00:16:48.649 I think we can make the same error in talking to the women and the 233 00:16:48.730 --> 00:16:53.450 men coming as they have made regarding their baby, which is to deep dehumanized. 234 00:16:53.690 --> 00:16:59.289 I think that our mission is so important and so God driven that we 235 00:16:59.490 --> 00:17:03.399 can almost look more at the mission than at the people. Yeah, that 236 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.200 are that are coming in. And so I think talking about being relational, 237 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:15.470 remembered, they're human beings themselves with struggles and feelings and and and we need 238 00:17:15.589 --> 00:17:21.750 to treat them in that way and respectfully as as much as possibly. Our 239 00:17:21.789 --> 00:17:26.630 demeanor should be one of respect. One of our youngsters was out today and 240 00:17:26.990 --> 00:17:30.299 and he kind of started getting into a little bit of name called Lane, 241 00:17:30.579 --> 00:17:36.500 and I reminded him that that is never a good idea. Never it's never 242 00:17:36.579 --> 00:17:41.220 appropriate before God, but it's not appropriate if that if our desires that they 243 00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:44.450 would come and talk with us. Sure. So respect should be a part 244 00:17:44.490 --> 00:17:47.930 of our demeanor as well. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, which kind of 245 00:17:47.930 --> 00:17:51.930 gets into that that that next one. Our attitude. Yeah, and our 246 00:17:52.009 --> 00:17:56.890 attitude respectful as part of what our attitude should be. Yeah. Also, 247 00:17:56.170 --> 00:18:02.480 I think biblically, we should have an attitude of confidence. Yeah, that 248 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.119 should be conveyed at me people. We think about what's conveyed on our face 249 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:08.720 and all of that, and there's only so much you can do with your 250 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.000 face. I mean, you got a bunch of muscles there, but you 251 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.349 can smile and you can frown. There's things you can do is your face. 252 00:18:15.109 --> 00:18:18.710 But really, as human beings, there's this kind of maybe I'm speaking 253 00:18:18.710 --> 00:18:22.869 a little just personally, but I think you probably get it too, like 254 00:18:22.069 --> 00:18:26.779 you're around people, there's almost like is aura. Is that a pagan word? 255 00:18:27.019 --> 00:18:30.940 There's almost like this atmosphere around people that you can tell whether or not 256 00:18:32.019 --> 00:18:36.180 they're fearful, whether or not they're confident with our whole body. Language says 257 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:40.779 that sometimes slump shoulders yet a hundred there. Yeah, yeah, but if 258 00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:45.369 we can they and it's not because we have confidence in the flesh. So 259 00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:48.410 it needed say that right away. But if we can vey confidence, confidence 260 00:18:48.450 --> 00:18:52.089 in what we're saying, that what we're saying is true, the what we're 261 00:18:52.130 --> 00:18:56.039 saying has a solid foundation and if what we're saying comes from the word of 262 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.559 God, it does have a solid foundation. People pick up on that confidence. 263 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.519 That's right. We kind of have this atmosphere of confidence not again. 264 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:10.869 I'm not talking about arrogance, talking about pride and needs to be done done 265 00:19:10.869 --> 00:19:14.269 away with. We need to let the Lord crucify our pride in our arrogance. 266 00:19:15.069 --> 00:19:18.150 But if we have a confidence, and you read the Apostle Paul. 267 00:19:18.029 --> 00:19:22.309 This guy was was a humble man, for sure, yeah, but he 268 00:19:22.430 --> 00:19:25.980 was a confident man as well. You read the writings of the epistles of 269 00:19:26.059 --> 00:19:30.660 Paul. He had the confidence that came from knowing God. And we can 270 00:19:30.700 --> 00:19:33.740 have that same confidence and as we're calling out and again, that the idea 271 00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:37.180 that we want them to come over and talk to us as a very important 272 00:19:37.180 --> 00:19:41.049 idea. Having that confidence with what we're saying. It's very important. And 273 00:19:41.130 --> 00:19:42.650 I think you might ask, well, how does that come like? How 274 00:19:42.690 --> 00:19:47.769 do I get confident, because I haven't done this very much, and or 275 00:19:47.809 --> 00:19:49.089 maybe I haven't done this at all and I want to be confident, but 276 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:52.799 how can I be confident in something I've never done? Well, I think 277 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.599 your first step step of confidences putting your confidence, putting your trust in God, 278 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.599 being in the word right, but also just doing it. Yep, 279 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.470 nothing makes a person more confident then doing it. And you get more confident 280 00:20:07.509 --> 00:20:11.549 as you do it. Now, I will say strangely enough, people think 281 00:20:11.549 --> 00:20:15.349 I'm kidding, but I'm not kidding. Every time I go on the sidewalk 282 00:20:15.390 --> 00:20:18.630 and every time I raise my voice to call out her, every time I 283 00:20:18.670 --> 00:20:22.420 get on amplified sound, there's a nervousness about me, right, yeah, 284 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:25.500 I mean I've the same way with speaking before crowds and things like that. 285 00:20:25.859 --> 00:20:30.059 Yeah, Um, I have a confidence that, Yep, I've done in 286 00:20:30.140 --> 00:20:33.579 the past, but I'm still still a nervousness about me because I'm realizing that 287 00:20:33.740 --> 00:20:37.089 I need to trust the Lords. We don't ever, shouldn't ever lose that 288 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:41.369 that we're trusting the Lord. But the more we do something, the more 289 00:20:41.569 --> 00:20:45.809 confident we become in the Lord's ability to work through us. And that's really 290 00:20:45.849 --> 00:20:49.000 what it is. It's a confidence in the Lord's ability to work through us. 291 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.400 Yeah, you know the verse, I Happy Face makes the heart glad. 292 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.519 Okay, that it's in proverbs. So, and then there's the the 293 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:03.519 opposite one also. They're both in proverbs. But but, and they appear 294 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.390 to be contradictions, but they're not. But, but the one I happy 295 00:21:06.430 --> 00:21:11.630 face makes the heart glad is saying that sometimes if you put on the externals 296 00:21:11.190 --> 00:21:15.589 of what you want to be an internal state. It kind of helps with 297 00:21:15.750 --> 00:21:21.660 that internal state. So if I'm not feeling confident but I'm still going to 298 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:27.819 speak as though I am, it has a strange way of making you feel 299 00:21:29.380 --> 00:21:33.009 then the way that you should actually be feeling. Okay, and and so 300 00:21:33.210 --> 00:21:40.289 I will. I I think I do that often, that that I just 301 00:21:40.650 --> 00:21:44.930 I know that what I'm saying is important. I know that it's what God 302 00:21:45.049 --> 00:21:49.240 has given me to say. So I know it's of infinite value and that's 303 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:53.279 where my confidence is, in that God will enable me and what he has 304 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:57.680 given me is of infinite value for these people to hear. And then I 305 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.269 am just going to do whatever confident people do. Yeah, I'm going to 306 00:22:03.309 --> 00:22:11.950 speak slowly, loudly, calmly, assertively, and that you start to feel 307 00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.309 it and they feel it and I don't know if that's right or wrong, 308 00:22:15.430 --> 00:22:18.019 but I know it's something I do and I think it's biblical. I think 309 00:22:18.019 --> 00:22:21.539 that that's what that is what that verse is saying. Okay, yeah, 310 00:22:22.019 --> 00:22:25.019 well, I know, just physically. I mean this is a little off 311 00:22:25.180 --> 00:22:29.339 topic in the sense that we're not talking about calling out, but I know 312 00:22:30.130 --> 00:22:33.329 before the Lord like when I'm worshiping the Lord, especially in personal prayer time, 313 00:22:33.369 --> 00:22:37.569 I might stand, but when I take a posture of humility, like 314 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:41.690 physically get on my knees, that that helps me to humble my heart. 315 00:22:41.690 --> 00:22:44.920 So it could be a little bit of what you're talking about. Yeah, 316 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.680 that's very, very much yeah. So really, just to wrap up this 317 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.400 point, we need to be confident, but they're also needs to be a 318 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:59.309 calmness. So I would say a calm, confident demeanor. Yeah, and 319 00:22:59.470 --> 00:23:03.029 attitude is very important. Yeah, and getting people to come over and talk 320 00:23:03.029 --> 00:23:04.710 to you, in getting them just to listen to you, because if you 321 00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:10.869 sound like some frantic, raving lunatic, God might use that, people might 322 00:23:10.950 --> 00:23:12.539 come over and talk to you, but for the most part probably not. 323 00:23:12.859 --> 00:23:17.740 That just going to keep on walking because you're not communicating anything to them they 324 00:23:17.779 --> 00:23:21.140 don't already have. They're all there's already chaos, it's already confusion, there's 325 00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:26.380 all already this this lack of confidence in themselves, right, and there's already 326 00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:30.569 this lack of calmness, frantic. We want to make sure we convey to 327 00:23:30.609 --> 00:23:34.609 them the opposite, that we actually come from a perspective of confidence and we're 328 00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:40.490 calm right. You think about it, somebody that's confident, you can argue 329 00:23:40.529 --> 00:23:42.839 with them all day, but if they're confident with they're saying that they don't 330 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:47.279 need to get all defensive and things like that. Yep, and that's how 331 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:49.240 the Lord has really helped me, because, you know, we get all 332 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:53.319 kinds of things thrown at us, physically sometimes, for the most part, 333 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.869 verbally. You're this, you're that, and I can just calmly and confidently 334 00:23:57.950 --> 00:24:02.589 answer, Oh, I'm not. Why? Because I'm confident in what God's 335 00:24:02.589 --> 00:24:06.150 Word says. I'm confident in the work that the Lord has done in my 336 00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:10.779 heart, and that really helps us when we're trying to come from a perspective 337 00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:14.500 of calmness and confidence to convey that to a mother who's not those things. 338 00:24:15.299 --> 00:24:17.900 It can help us to win them over. That's right. And then as 339 00:24:17.980 --> 00:24:21.779 soft answer turns away wrath is is a perfect example of that. Also, 340 00:24:21.900 --> 00:24:26.769 if we're what they're not, it can also diffuse what is it usually a 341 00:24:26.890 --> 00:24:34.250 very angry, frightened situation for them and demeanor for them. So yeah, 342 00:24:34.930 --> 00:24:38.880 so you tell you talked about earlier on that the we can have the right 343 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:47.000 demeanor, we can say the right words but we can say them at the 344 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:52.470 wrong time. Yeah, timing is very important and like what I think what 345 00:24:52.549 --> 00:24:57.190 I talked about in the article that will accompany this on our sidebox for life 346 00:24:57.269 --> 00:25:04.150 site and I think a company with this podcast. One of the timing issues 347 00:25:04.710 --> 00:25:11.059 for me that became very evident the longer I have been out on the sidewalk 348 00:25:11.980 --> 00:25:18.700 is the women are using God's love and forgiveness to justify abortion. Yeah, 349 00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.410 and so that is such an important truth. We've said this many times. 350 00:25:22.450 --> 00:25:27.569 It is such an important truth to convey at some point, but not at 351 00:25:27.609 --> 00:25:33.450 the moment, right as they're entering the abortion center. And it's of one 352 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.960 of the few things that I can think of that I believe truly can end 353 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:44.160 up being destructive. That we say is talking feeding into that. It's their 354 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:49.789 misperceiving the whole truth of God's forgiveness and love. But nonetheless, if we 355 00:25:51.069 --> 00:25:55.950 feed into that, however unwittingly, we can kind of send them even faster 356 00:25:56.150 --> 00:25:59.349 in, yeah, to go have the abortions. A lot of these women 357 00:25:59.349 --> 00:26:03.380 are grasping for justification to kill their child, grasping for a justification to shrug 358 00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:07.579 off their conscience. That is speaking to them. There is a level of 359 00:26:07.700 --> 00:26:11.859 conviction there unless they've completely seed their conscience right, and if we give them 360 00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:17.259 that justification, they grab a hold of it and they can walk in there 361 00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:19.730 and kill their child with the justification that well, God will forgive me. 362 00:26:21.369 --> 00:26:22.410 Right. We've already touched on that, so I don't want to Labor that 363 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:29.569 point. But timing is important and the message that we convey is important at 364 00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:33.200 those particular times. So, for for people who are listening who are maybe 365 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.519 newer to this, they're probably thinking, because I would be thinking it. 366 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:45.920 Then how do we know? How do we know what truth to speak when? 367 00:26:47.190 --> 00:26:52.789 And I mean I'd love to hear how you would answer that. I 368 00:26:52.990 --> 00:26:57.430 know experience does help. Yeah, but for someone who has no experience, 369 00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:03.980 how are what are some things that that we can offer to those people that 370 00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:11.940 they can discern when something should be spoken? What? When? The when? 371 00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:15.289 For example, the message of God's forgiveness? You know, those women 372 00:27:15.329 --> 00:27:18.049 at some point are going to be leaving. Meant most of them, sadly, 373 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:23.849 will have aboarded. Yeah, and if they are leaving having aborted and 374 00:27:23.970 --> 00:27:27.369 no one's out there, which sometimes is the case because there's only so long 375 00:27:27.490 --> 00:27:30.480 teams can be out there, depend on how late in the afternoon it is 376 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:37.839 when they leave. Will they leave with the feeling that they are forever condemned 377 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:45.549 right, that they can never be forgiven, which sadly fuels more and more 378 00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:51.029 and more abortions? Yeah, because they have kind of been believed. I've 379 00:27:51.109 --> 00:27:55.910 had one, I've had to I've had three Wa's one more. Yeah. 380 00:27:56.109 --> 00:28:00.180 Yeah, well, I know we do touch on this in our podcast about 381 00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:06.099 forgiveness and when to talk about forgiveness. So I'll say just practically the message 382 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:11.259 of forgiveness. I don't even approach that topic until after they've had the abortion 383 00:28:11.339 --> 00:28:15.410 right and really I'm not going to be calling that out anyway. I'm not 384 00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:18.609 going to be calling out, well, God will forgive you. Typically, 385 00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:21.329 if I'm going to talk about forgiveness, I want to get in a one 386 00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:23.769 on one conversation with them so I can break it down, break down this, 387 00:28:23.890 --> 00:28:30.720 this truth of God's willingness to forgive. Forgiveness is based upon a person's 388 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:36.440 repentance and faith in Jesus. HMM, and it's not really possible for me 389 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:41.789 to break that down. And you know, a fifteen second conversation or not 390 00:28:41.910 --> 00:28:47.869 conversation calling out from the door of the abortion center to their car right now. 391 00:28:48.190 --> 00:28:52.829 I have been inclined at times when I see a young lady pulling out 392 00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:56.140 of the parking lot and she's obviously broken. Yeah, she's got tears in 393 00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:00.099 her eyes, her head is down. And know it's been a couple of 394 00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:03.220 years ago there was a situation a young lady pulled it out of the parking 395 00:29:03.299 --> 00:29:07.940 lot, stopped in the driveway, rolled down her window and she said tears 396 00:29:07.980 --> 00:29:10.809 in her eyes. I wish I will listen to the truth you guys were 397 00:29:10.849 --> 00:29:12.650 telling me out here and instead of the lies they were telling me inside of 398 00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:18.250 there. That happens more often than probably people realize. Yeah, that people 399 00:29:18.410 --> 00:29:21.690 instantly be grab what they have done. We had someone just last week. 400 00:29:21.849 --> 00:29:23.210 Yeah, or maybe it was the week before now. This was actually she 401 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.599 was there for a follow up, because I dug into it a little bit 402 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:27.960 more. Said, so, did you just have the abortion? She said 403 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.359 no, I'm here. Had the took the abortion pail three weeks ago. 404 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.960 I'm here from my follow up. Yeah, saw you guys out here, 405 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.200 heard what you were saying. I should have listened. Yeah, now I 406 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.549 wish I would have. Yeah, and in that moment, what can I 407 00:29:41.630 --> 00:29:45.029 say? The do I just add insul to injury. Yeah, you should 408 00:29:45.029 --> 00:29:47.430 have listened, you wicked reprobect. You know, I could, I could 409 00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:49.549 have went that way. Didn't think the timing was right on that. She 410 00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:55.500 was already broken. Right, right, Jesus says he doesn't quench a smoking 411 00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:57.380 flax nor break a bruise. Read. If she's already bruised, I'm not 412 00:29:57.380 --> 00:30:00.180 going to break her the rest of the way. Right. Well, the 413 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:03.460 Holy Spirit do that. She was already broken. Yeah, and so I'd 414 00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:07.170 get right into the forgiveness. Of Us. Listen. The fact that you're 415 00:30:07.210 --> 00:30:11.849 still breathing air shows me that God would still have mercy on you. He's 416 00:30:11.890 --> 00:30:17.609 allowing you to live. Right, you're not yet standing before him under his 417 00:30:17.769 --> 00:30:22.480 judgment. He's giving you time to repent. So you're already are obviously already 418 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.400 broken. Now turn to the Lord. The Bible says that if we confess 419 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.200 our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse 420 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.670 us from all unrighteousness. There's not a single unrighteous act that you have done 421 00:30:37.589 --> 00:30:41.630 that Jesus Christ can't cleanse you from, but you've got to confess your sin 422 00:30:41.789 --> 00:30:45.829 to him and put your trust in what he did on the Cross and that 423 00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:48.430 was as much as I was able to get out actually, because the security 424 00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:51.420 guard came along and shoot her out of the driveway. That's all a bit. 425 00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:53.339 That's the basics of what she needs to hear. Was the basis. 426 00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:57.339 Yeah, not going to and I think we had to be careful again in 427 00:30:57.500 --> 00:31:02.700 this calling out scenario. But it's not only the individual that we're we're trying 428 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:04.329 to really focus in on, because that's what we're doing. We're calling out 429 00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:08.089 with our natural voices, really focusing in on one person, right, because 430 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:11.410 there's kind of like a general I would say, more like preaching that we 431 00:31:11.450 --> 00:31:15.049 can just be out there in front of the abortion clinic just preaching to everybody 432 00:31:15.049 --> 00:31:18.210 who will listen, and that can be effective where he's got for that. 433 00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:21.519 We do that on amplified sound, yeah, but when there's individuals, when 434 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.799 there's an individual walking in, we're going to be addressing her individually. Yeah, 435 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.160 kind of like a oneone calling out, but there's also other people that 436 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.839 are listening. So if I'm going to if, let's say she comes out 437 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.549 of the door and she's already got tears in her eyes and she's broken, 438 00:31:33.829 --> 00:31:37.829 I'm still probably not going to be calling out to her. God will forgive 439 00:31:37.829 --> 00:31:41.950 you, I might say, if you turn from your sin and put your 440 00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:45.509 trust in Jesus, God can forgive you. But I don't always want to 441 00:31:45.549 --> 00:31:51.140 imply like because it's almost like this attitude God will forgive you, like it's 442 00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:55.700 gonna Happen, and that's not necessarily true. We have this attitude of well, 443 00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:59.779 God will forgive you because, after all, he's like a button we 444 00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:01.130 push and all we have to do is push that button. He say I'm 445 00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:07.089 sorry and it's fine. He's beholding to US right and ultimately we've made a 446 00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:08.650 god in our own image. You want him to forgive us, and so 447 00:32:08.769 --> 00:32:15.049 we say he will forgive us. God doesn't have to forgive anyone for anything. 448 00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:17.480 He doesn't have to. He's not beholding to us. He's God and 449 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:24.039 we're not. He's willing to forgive all that repent and put their trust in 450 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.799 Jesus. So the Bible says. So if you repent and put your trust 451 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.309 in Jesus, if you do what David did and Psalm fifty one, David 452 00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:37.430 Broken over his sin, repented before the Lord, confessed his sin to the 453 00:32:37.549 --> 00:32:42.430 Lord and the Lord was willing to forgive him. Yeah, right, as 454 00:32:42.509 --> 00:32:46.259 far as we know he did not ever do anything like what happened with Bathsheba. 455 00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:50.779 Yeah, but try and repent it. Yeah, and so forgiveness. 456 00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:54.259 We have talked more, probably in some podcast in the past about that because 457 00:32:54.339 --> 00:33:00.210 that is such a critical thing to remember. But if if there is someone 458 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:05.009 coming in and I'm trying to decide, okay, what am I going to 459 00:33:05.089 --> 00:33:09.369 call out, it's always those three talking points. But in terms of how 460 00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:15.319 some of the specifics of what I say sometimes relate to how I read their 461 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.480 body language. You can read and tell someone who is scoffing and mocking and 462 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:30.029 harsh and hard, and I might tend to be more firm in Truth and 463 00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:34.829 justice if I see that kind of body language. Words would ever, if 464 00:33:34.990 --> 00:33:38.430 they're then there are others that are coming in tearful and I'm probably going to 465 00:33:38.470 --> 00:33:43.140 be more gentle use more gentle language. So in terms of for if you're 466 00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:47.740 brand new, that's something to start looking for, is the body language of 467 00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:52.140 the people that are going in and and and it sometimes helps you to tailor, 468 00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:55.329 yeah, how you say what you say in the timing and when you 469 00:33:55.490 --> 00:34:00.089 when you bring in things, and depending on. You know, you brought 470 00:34:00.089 --> 00:34:02.650 out something I wasn't even thinking as I was working on this article. Calling 471 00:34:02.730 --> 00:34:07.490 out isn't always as they're going in. Yeah, it is also sometimes as 472 00:34:07.529 --> 00:34:10.679 they're coming out. Yeah, and so I didn't really touch on this in 473 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.840 the article, but you did a little bit. We do call out about 474 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.599 abortion pill reversal. Yeah, if we know that they these are the pills 475 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.719 that are coming out and, like you said on on a, certainly about 476 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.269 repentance. Maybe not forgiveness so much yet, unless they come and talk with 477 00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:30.510 us, but certainly about what it means to truly repent. Yeah, for 478 00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:36.349 God. Yeah, a good point about the abortion peoll reversal. We kind 479 00:34:36.349 --> 00:34:37.940 of always want to plant that seat, right, but timing? Yeah, 480 00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:42.099 like I'm not going to be calling out as a woman is going into the 481 00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:45.699 abortion center going to kill her child. I'm not going to be calling out 482 00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:49.420 about the abortion pell reversal. I'm not be going to mention that exactly because 483 00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:52.179 I don't want to give them because she might be thinking you might latch on 484 00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:54.369 to them and say, well, okay, I'm considering taking the abortion Pew. 485 00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:58.170 If I go in here and take it, though, these people say 486 00:34:58.170 --> 00:35:00.449 I can reverse it so I can I can go back on the decision. 487 00:35:00.449 --> 00:35:02.170 May as well hanging. Just go ahead and take care of this and then 488 00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:05.650 if I decide not to, I can just do what they're saying. Yeah, 489 00:35:05.769 --> 00:35:08.320 it's not a hundred percent effective and I don't want to give someone justification 490 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.360 any measure to do that. Yeah, so I'm not only if I think 491 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.880 and pretty confident that they've taken the abortion pill will I call out about the 492 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.920 abortion pill reversal and I'm going to lay it out more of a generalized way 493 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.670 and I'll say something to the effective. If you took the abortion pill, 494 00:35:23.190 --> 00:35:28.030 it's possible for that to be reversed and sometimes will even add it's not a 495 00:35:28.030 --> 00:35:30.670 hundred percent effective. If I have a little bit more at length, time 496 00:35:30.789 --> 00:35:35.510 to call this out. Not a hundred percent effective, but there can still 497 00:35:35.510 --> 00:35:37.300 be hoped for your baby. Right, God gives you a second chance. 498 00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:40.539 I've to I've talked a lot about God as the God of Second Chances. 499 00:35:40.619 --> 00:35:45.420 But but the timing is really important that. And we've had a young lady 500 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:51.130 who chose life for her baby, who had the abortion pill reversed because she 501 00:35:51.250 --> 00:35:52.809 heard someone called out to her. Right, you can go to abortion P 502 00:35:52.969 --> 00:35:58.329 REVERSALCOM and reverse the effects of that medication. She did that, got connected 503 00:35:58.369 --> 00:36:00.530 with my wife, who we did a podcast with some months ago. Yeah, 504 00:36:00.849 --> 00:36:05.840 and ended up her babies were saved bluepsh was a mother of twins, 505 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.639 and so, yeah, that. But timing was important. Yeah, that 506 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:15.920 particular scenario. Calling out also as they're coming out, something that introduces the 507 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:22.590 idea maybe of if they have taken the pill, abortion pill reversal, but 508 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:27.110 but have you changed your mind? I will call that out a lot as 509 00:36:27.150 --> 00:36:30.150 their coming out. If you changed your mind, we have so much help 510 00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:34.699 available for you. But if you have not and you took the pill, 511 00:36:34.739 --> 00:36:37.900 and then I'll go in to the abortion who reversal. And the reason that 512 00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:42.940 I do that is to counter the lie that has said that we won't help 513 00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:45.739 them. And if they have changed their mind, they're told don't stop. 514 00:36:45.820 --> 00:36:49.730 Yeah, but if they don't stop, they don't know that there's all these 515 00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:52.289 resources available that can help them. So as they're coming out, that's a 516 00:36:52.409 --> 00:36:55.489 good time to call out, to plant the Seedt Hey, if you changed 517 00:36:55.570 --> 00:37:00.570 your mind, praise God. Yeah, please stop on your way out, 518 00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:04.239 because so often they don't. Yeah, but they at least now know, 519 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.960 hey, there is help available and hopefully they can figure out how to get 520 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.360 a hold of it. Yeah, then want to give just kind of like 521 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.599 from our experience, a little a little tip or trick. Okay, and 522 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.670 then I'm going to talk a little bit about calling out again and some of 523 00:37:17.750 --> 00:37:22.389 the frequency of calling out. Okay, if you see a woman going into 524 00:37:22.389 --> 00:37:27.909 the abortion center and you see her come in and out and in and out 525 00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:31.579 and in and out, that is an indication that she is not solid in 526 00:37:31.659 --> 00:37:35.619 that decision. And typically, if you see her go in and out, 527 00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:37.699 in and out, in and out, in and out and then she leaves 528 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:42.059 before the abortionist gets there, that's typically a mom that has chosen life for 529 00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:44.889 her baby. That happened just today. Yeah, she was in and out, 530 00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:46.570 in and out, in and out. A guy was there with a 531 00:37:46.769 --> 00:37:50.170 two year old, look like a two year old toddler, who is with 532 00:37:50.369 --> 00:37:54.289 her. Both of them took information from us. So already we know and 533 00:37:54.409 --> 00:37:59.159 we called out the entire hour to that guy with the two year old. 534 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.559 Yeah, and and every time we saw her in and out, in and 535 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:05.880 out, in and out, and they ended up leaf him be before the 536 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.079 abortionist. Yeah, and I say that because we're talking about calling out. 537 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.869 Some people might question the frequency. Like if you see a woman go into 538 00:38:13.909 --> 00:38:15.550 the abortion center, you call out to her while she's going in. Yeah, 539 00:38:15.670 --> 00:38:17.869 and then she comes back out and you call out to her when she 540 00:38:17.949 --> 00:38:21.550 comes back out going to her car, and then she goes back into the 541 00:38:21.550 --> 00:38:23.789 abortion center. You might think we'll should just stop. I don't. I 542 00:38:23.829 --> 00:38:28.780 don't want to annoy her. I want to keep on engaging, but I 543 00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:30.739 don't want to get on her nerves. I don't want to offend her or 544 00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:35.579 whatever. Yeah, and you might think it's if she's already heard. Right, 545 00:38:35.619 --> 00:38:37.780 I don't need to let her here again. He heard Tenner's fifteen seconds. 546 00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:43.369 Yeah, keep listen. We I won't. I won't stop calling out 547 00:38:43.409 --> 00:38:46.809 to a woman going into the abortion center until she specifically will tell me leave 548 00:38:46.849 --> 00:38:51.130 me the blank alonge right. Most of the time, if they say leave 549 00:38:51.170 --> 00:38:53.329 me the blank alone, I will. Yea, I will. I will 550 00:38:53.329 --> 00:38:57.559 say I'll give them count one, the last little sting of truth, and 551 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.599 then I'll let God deal with them. Yeah, because I think there's this 552 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.920 dynamic of giving your pearls to swine, like Jesus said, given what's Holy, 553 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.119 two dogs listen if they if they've shut down the conversation. They don't 554 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.949 want to hear from you. Okay, then when they stand before God, 555 00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:15.869 they won't be able to accuse you. I'm not having told them the truth. 556 00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:19.070 Right. Yeah, and so most of the time. But if they 557 00:39:19.110 --> 00:39:22.030 don't say anything but along those lines, I'm going to keep calling out, 558 00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:27.219 I'm going to keep engaging with them, I'm going to keep given information to 559 00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:30.739 them. And we had a young lady that chose life a couple of years 560 00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:35.659 ago. Mama the I won't give her name, okay, but I don't 561 00:39:35.699 --> 00:39:39.250 know if you remember. We did an interview with her and we asked her 562 00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:43.610 about that. Is One of the things she said actually helped her to choose 563 00:39:43.650 --> 00:39:45.969 life is that we didn't give up, that we don't give up, and 564 00:39:46.130 --> 00:39:53.400 the Bible is filled with versus about persevere and we do train our counselors. 565 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:58.599 If there's a mom in side, no matter how many times, you just 566 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.519 keep giving her seats of truth. Yeah, because you know now the hard 567 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.190 part in that, and I will say it is hard, is it'd be 568 00:40:07.269 --> 00:40:12.429 better to be saying something different. You sure time you see her. Sometimes 569 00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:15.789 it's hard to remember what you've said. But if you can plant a different 570 00:40:15.829 --> 00:40:22.260 seat of truth. You just never know what might be the thing that captures 571 00:40:22.300 --> 00:40:25.860 her heart. Yeah, absolutely so. So, yeah, to keep don't 572 00:40:25.860 --> 00:40:30.539 give up. And and every time you see a mom, continue to call 573 00:40:30.579 --> 00:40:36.130 out, always, again, usually in those for those three talking points. 574 00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:39.130 Yeah, but try to make them different to the same mother that you've seen 575 00:40:39.210 --> 00:40:42.449 open and I'm like, say, if I saw a woman go in and 576 00:40:42.530 --> 00:40:45.449 out, in and out, and I recognize that, or man going in 577 00:40:45.530 --> 00:40:47.090 and out and in and out, all acknowledge that. Say, I've seen 578 00:40:47.130 --> 00:40:50.760 you go in, out right and out several times. UPS Right, you 579 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.280 obviously don't want to do that. Yeah, please come and talk with yeah, 580 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.719 because you're giving voice to what you're seeing, the action that you're seeing, 581 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.199 which is, you know, a very reasonable thing to assume. The 582 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.710 ones that are determined, you don't see them again for three hours. They 583 00:41:04.789 --> 00:41:07.110 just sit in there. Most of the time. I mean not always, 584 00:41:07.670 --> 00:41:12.949 but but you can maybe even just put that as soon as you've verbalized it. 585 00:41:13.030 --> 00:41:15.469 Maybe they haven't consciously thought that's why I'm in and out, in and 586 00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:20.940 out, and you've just given that voice. That can add to that indecision, 587 00:41:20.980 --> 00:41:23.139 which you want. Yeah, you want them to recognize that conflict, 588 00:41:23.179 --> 00:41:28.460 and I hear US say all the time, all of us, if you 589 00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:31.380 really look like there is conflict in your heart, that is a good thing. 590 00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:36.969 God has planted that there for no good purpose. Absolutely. Yeah. 591 00:41:37.530 --> 00:41:39.250 Well, I think we're about ready to wrap this up, but it want 592 00:41:39.289 --> 00:41:43.929 to touch on this last point that you made, or last major point, 593 00:41:43.969 --> 00:41:46.760 which is countering some of the lies. Right, and it's really what our 594 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.039 three talking points do. Counter the lies, counter the lies that God is 595 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.159 okay with this, because that is one of the laws that many of these 596 00:41:53.199 --> 00:42:00.599 women embrace, is that God knows my heart, God's forgiving and God loves 597 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.550 me. Yeah, God loves me, which sums up basically, to sum 598 00:42:04.630 --> 00:42:07.190 it up, is God's okay with what I'm doing. Right, and what 599 00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:10.030 God says about this biblically shows that he's not okay with this. Yeah, 600 00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:15.630 also countering the lies that their babies just a blob of tissue or a clump 601 00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:19.219 of sales. They've been told that lie. Hmmm, and we counter that 602 00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:22.780 about talking about the humanity of the baby. Your baby's heart is already beating, 603 00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:27.300 your baby has brain waves. Babies a living human being. There can 604 00:42:27.340 --> 00:42:30.730 be sometimes, though, when we have to counterlies kind of like on the 605 00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:34.489 fly, where if you're calling out to somebody going into the abortion center and 606 00:42:34.489 --> 00:42:38.090 they called back to you things like it's not a baby. You know, 607 00:42:38.929 --> 00:42:42.530 I think we have to be careful in the way that we respond so that 608 00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:45.880 we're not we don't respond and just kind of this frantic, just reactionary way. 609 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:51.280 But if we have the truth in us and we've got these kind of 610 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.480 three talking points kind of ingrained in our minds, we can respond very quickly 611 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.110 with well, actually know, your baby's heart is already beating, responding with 612 00:42:59.190 --> 00:43:01.469 those trues. It's not a Blob of tissue, it's actually your child, 613 00:43:01.630 --> 00:43:05.469 your son or daughter, that you're about to kill inside of that place. 614 00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:09.789 HMM. And so we are supposed to bring the truth in contradiction to the 615 00:43:09.949 --> 00:43:13.980 lies that they're being told, and we do that when we're calling out to 616 00:43:14.059 --> 00:43:16.579 them going into the abortion center. Yeah, and the more that you have 617 00:43:16.739 --> 00:43:20.739 that truth in you, the more quickly you can respond. We did put 618 00:43:20.820 --> 00:43:27.489 in this article a website that gives just additional information about what are some really 619 00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:32.289 common lies that are told. Yeah, and some ways to counter some of 620 00:43:32.369 --> 00:43:37.329 those lies, some biblical, some just medical and scientific, and I found 621 00:43:37.329 --> 00:43:40.210 it really helpful. So that that's in the article. It's by Randy alcorn. 622 00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:44.079 Yeah, okay, and we'll have this article out and they'll be a 623 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.800 link to that article within the article that you talked about. Yeah, and 624 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.199 then just wrap it up. I think we always touch on this point. 625 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.710 Yeah, having the word in you. Yeah, having the have them, 626 00:43:54.789 --> 00:43:58.869 the scripture in you. So when you get those people that call as you're 627 00:43:58.909 --> 00:44:04.469 calling out what God says and they respond, well, God'll forgive me, 628 00:44:04.829 --> 00:44:09.059 you can respond, you can respond scripturally. Well, there remains no remission 629 00:44:09.139 --> 00:44:14.539 for sin without repentance. Yeah, so are you repentant? Right, and 630 00:44:14.619 --> 00:44:16.739 then if they say they are, then you talk about the meaning of repentance. 631 00:44:16.860 --> 00:44:20.780 But so, yes, you're exactly right. You gotta you got to 632 00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:22.900 have it in you, though, because on the fly you can't say, 633 00:44:22.940 --> 00:44:27.849 well, just a second, let me just come through what the Bible says 634 00:44:27.849 --> 00:44:30.050 about that and get back to you. Yeah. So, having the word 635 00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:34.170 in US and then ultimately relying on the Lord. We can give you all 636 00:44:34.210 --> 00:44:37.250 kinds of practical stuff, we can give us some of our experiences, but 637 00:44:37.369 --> 00:44:40.760 God knows a lot more than we do and if you're led by the Holy 638 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.199 Spirit, God can give you what to say in the moment. Yeah, 639 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.239 God can give you the perfect response, because only he knows the perfect response, 640 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.639 right, but understanding of course, that even if you give the perfect 641 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.789 response, it's between that person and the Lord what they do with that response. 642 00:44:57.110 --> 00:45:00.110 So our responsibility is, as we started, to obey God. We 643 00:45:00.230 --> 00:45:02.269 want them to come over and talk with us, get in a one on 644 00:45:02.309 --> 00:45:07.500 one conversation with us, but ultimately it's between them of the Lord whether they 645 00:45:07.539 --> 00:45:10.340 do that and where that even when we have a one on one conversation, 646 00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:15.059 where it goes. 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