Should New Believers Minister on the Sidewalk?

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:05.919 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me, 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:11.509 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.589 --> 00:00:17.469 Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.070 you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. 5 00:00:21.269 --> 00:00:32.179 Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. 6 00:00:33.100 --> 00:00:36.729 Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. We appreciate you, guys, 7 00:00:36.770 --> 00:00:40.210 joining us and, as always, would appreciate if you guys would share 8 00:00:40.210 --> 00:00:44.170 this podcast episode with others that you think it would be a blessing too, 9 00:00:44.810 --> 00:00:50.439 and also leave us a review on whatever podcast service that you use. We 10 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.799 want for others to see that these podcasts are a blessing, that they have 11 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.640 been a blessing to you, and if you leave a review, a positive 12 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:03.359 review of course, then others are likely to listen to the podcast and receive 13 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.430 the blessings that you have. Now we do have a bunch of reviews, 14 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:12.870 especially on, I guess, Apple Podcast, and like eighteen hundred and something 15 00:01:12.950 --> 00:01:18.310 reviews. Got More reviews and I think any prolife podcast that's out there. 16 00:01:19.019 --> 00:01:23.739 Wow, yeah, yeah, the ones that I'll see at least, however, 17 00:01:23.900 --> 00:01:27.980 most perfect us are really, really bad, bad reviews. Not because 18 00:01:29.019 --> 00:01:32.299 this is a bad podcast, but because our pro abortion friends got a hold 19 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:37.049 of it and I guess let tick Tock know that they should leave us a 20 00:01:37.090 --> 00:01:40.450 review and they left us all one star review. So if you want some 21 00:01:40.650 --> 00:01:44.129 entertainment, we did an episode about this a couple of months ago. We 22 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:47.799 read through some of the reviews and just kind of laughed at some of the 23 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.959 the foolishness sits there, just to show the ridiculousness of the people that oppose 24 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.480 what we're doing. But if you want some entertainment, then go and read 25 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.040 those reviews. I mean, well, don't read them with your children. 26 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.629 Some of them are pretty nasty and Raunchy, but some of them are are 27 00:02:01.670 --> 00:02:09.030 pretty comical. But to combat that and to get us more than one point 28 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:14.870 two stars as far as a rating, leave us a five star review if 29 00:02:14.909 --> 00:02:19.340 you would. If you hate what we're doing, then you don't leave us 30 00:02:19.379 --> 00:02:22.419 in a review. Actually, that would be that would be great that there 31 00:02:22.419 --> 00:02:25.099 are people that commented leaving a review. What One Star Review? The PRO 32 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:30.569 abortion people. They said, I wish I could leave zero stars and you 33 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:32.810 know, I hate to point out that actually you can by not leaving any 34 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:38.650 stars. By not leaving any review, that's that. The Equals Zero Stars. 35 00:02:38.729 --> 00:02:42.689 But anyway, that's a little too advanced thinking for folks like that. 36 00:02:42.889 --> 00:02:46.639 Sometimes. Yeah, I considered a badge of honor, honestly, that we 37 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.400 have all those negative reviews from that position. Yeah, it's pretty funny actually. 38 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:53.520 But all that said, leave us a review, guys. We do 39 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.199 want this to be a blessing to other people. We do want to, 40 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.990 you know, let people know what we're doing and we have some experiences in 41 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:07.870 the world of Sidewalk Ministry at abortion centers. It's kind of a unique angle, 42 00:03:07.990 --> 00:03:12.030 right, not, not very many people have an expertise, and maybe 43 00:03:12.150 --> 00:03:15.379 expertise is too strong a word, but not many people have an expertise in 44 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:21.460 this area of ministry, Right. And so, basically, I think we've 45 00:03:21.500 --> 00:03:23.979 said in the past is we've screwed up and we want you to learn from 46 00:03:23.979 --> 00:03:28.810 our screw ups. We've made mistakes and we want you to learn from our 47 00:03:28.849 --> 00:03:34.610 mistakes. So we hope this episode will be in that same vein and just 48 00:03:34.770 --> 00:03:38.330 talk more about like we past two episodes we've talked about boldness, or at 49 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:43.520 least you know. Last episode we had Jenna on WHO's one of our missionaries 50 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.840 there in rowing O, Virginia, Young Lady who is bold and really well. 51 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.199 It's God through her and she knows that God working through her. And 52 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.150 then the episode before that we talked about boldness. This episode, I guess 53 00:03:55.189 --> 00:04:00.590 it's going to be some similar things that we're going to talk about, but 54 00:04:00.710 --> 00:04:05.430 really we're going to talk about new believers, people that are brand new to 55 00:04:05.550 --> 00:04:13.340 Jesus and kind of, I guess, answer the question. Ask The question 56 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:17.339 and maybe you guys can help answer it with us. How soon can a 57 00:04:17.459 --> 00:04:23.100 new believer be out on the sidewalk right? You know this is if you 58 00:04:23.220 --> 00:04:26.410 guys have been out there any length of time. You know, if you've 59 00:04:26.449 --> 00:04:30.170 lifted listen to this podcast any length of time, you know this is an 60 00:04:30.250 --> 00:04:36.490 intense ministry. You don't want to throw someone who is unequipped out on the 61 00:04:36.610 --> 00:04:41.160 front lines at an abortion center, kind of throwing them out to the wolves. 62 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.959 You want to make sure that that people who are out there are equipped 63 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:50.759 and by that same notion, Gosh, we need people right. We need 64 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:56.550 people out there on the sidewalk. There's seven hundred abortion centers that we've figured 65 00:04:56.629 --> 00:05:00.389 that a good number of those abortion centers. Maybe two thirds don't have a 66 00:05:00.550 --> 00:05:04.629 consistent Christian witness, and so we need people. And Listen, I think 67 00:05:04.670 --> 00:05:09.420 we'll get into some of this too. We've made promises to you guys. 68 00:05:09.420 --> 00:05:12.620 If you go out to the abortion center, babies will be saved, whether 69 00:05:12.660 --> 00:05:15.500 you find out about it or not, and you will grow spiritually in ways 70 00:05:15.500 --> 00:05:18.019 you would not otherwise grow. And so people that are new to the faith, 71 00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:21.170 they need to grow and we're saying this is a means for people to 72 00:05:21.250 --> 00:05:25.889 grow, and I believe that it is, and so we're going to talk 73 00:05:25.930 --> 00:05:29.250 about that. We're going to talk about is it appropriate for new believers to 74 00:05:29.329 --> 00:05:31.850 be out there on the sidewalk? Gosh, what are some things to be 75 00:05:31.930 --> 00:05:38.279 thinking about, to be considering if you're a leader on the sidewalk and you've 76 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.800 got some of this brand new to the faith that wants to come out there 77 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.800 and serve? What are some things to be aware of? What are some 78 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.639 things to be careful of? And so we're going to talk through all of 79 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:53.230 that. It's a unique subject, but a subject that we've faced and I 80 00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:57.189 think there's some biblical principles, but I'll just tell you this. There's no 81 00:05:57.350 --> 00:06:01.670 perfect answer to you know how long does someone need to be a believer before 82 00:06:01.709 --> 00:06:05.939 they can be out on the sidewalk and serve? Bible doesn't tell US exactly. 83 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:11.379 Doesn't tell us a time frame for certain things, and that's why I 84 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:14.259 think, more than anything, will encourage you guys to just look at some 85 00:06:14.339 --> 00:06:17.019 of the principles, some of the scriptures that we share, seek the Lord 86 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:21.649 for wisdom and if you're leader in God, US put you in leadership. 87 00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:28.730 You know you have a charge to trust in the Lord, to seek his 88 00:06:28.930 --> 00:06:31.959 face and to proceed as you feel like the Lord is leading you. So 89 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.560 that's a little bit of just beginning to this subject for us. Yeah, 90 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.839 and and a corollary that we don't mention in the article that we're going to 91 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:46.560 put out but that I think all of you out on a sidewalk will face 92 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.350 this are the moms who choose life. oftentimes they will come to the Lord 93 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:58.310 when they choose life for their baby, but sometimes they claim they were already 94 00:06:58.350 --> 00:07:02.420 a believer and had just been tempted to because of their fear or whatever, 95 00:07:02.980 --> 00:07:06.579 and many times they do want to come out on the sidewalk and speak and 96 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:12.100 steer other moms not to do this, and I will say, I think 97 00:07:12.139 --> 00:07:15.769 there's a danger in that at the same time of you know, you don't 98 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:19.649 want to say no to request like that either. So I think this will 99 00:07:19.649 --> 00:07:26.529 be a valuable podcast in in knowing what kind of there are safeguards that bit 100 00:07:26.769 --> 00:07:30.560 biblical safeguards you can you can be aware of and put out there when you've 101 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.839 got new believers out there or maybe a mom who is. Maybe she's not 102 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.160 a brand new believer, maybe she is, but she certainly is being thrown 103 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.199 into the lines denn going and in front of an abortion center, especially since 104 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.029 she was so recently there herself. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, 105 00:07:46.069 --> 00:07:49.910 I think just to said the stage, what is our main concern with 106 00:07:50.310 --> 00:07:55.350 with any of this stuff? Right, what does our main concerns? Money, 107 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:57.509 might ask. Well, they're a new believer and they want to serve. 108 00:07:58.620 --> 00:08:01.019 Why do we even have any reservations? Right, like, we want 109 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:03.819 them to serve. We need people. They're people that we need. Their 110 00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:09.259 brand new they're excited, they have zeal. So why wouldn't we want them 111 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:11.930 on the sidewalk? Well, right, I'll tell you this. The main 112 00:08:13.129 --> 00:08:16.610 concern, above all concerns, is we want to honor the Lord. We 113 00:08:16.730 --> 00:08:22.889 want our presence to be honorable to Jesus and, you know, simply put 114 00:08:22.970 --> 00:08:26.839 people that are brand new to the faith that maybe they're in the process of 115 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:33.559 sanctification, but maybe their tongue has not yet been sanctified, their mind is 116 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.759 not yet been renewed in the way that would be helpful to really to really 117 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.190 influence other people in a positive way. You know, I'll say thing. 118 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:46.309 For example, brand new people, people that are brand new to the faith, 119 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:54.710 might experience some opposition from a pro abortion person right and cuss them out. 120 00:08:54.629 --> 00:09:00.460 I think about that. Here's someone in a love life Tshirt, hope, 121 00:09:00.580 --> 00:09:05.940 is here cussing out a pro abortion person on Ticktock, viewed millions of 122 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:09.649 times over. Does that honor the Lord? No, that doesn't honor the 123 00:09:09.690 --> 00:09:13.490 Lord. But I think we have to recognize to that there can be a 124 00:09:13.529 --> 00:09:18.970 tipping point in which someone who's seasoned in the Lord, in seasoned even in 125 00:09:18.049 --> 00:09:22.090 this ministry, that their buttons can be pushed in such a way where they 126 00:09:22.169 --> 00:09:26.440 could do that same things as certain certainly we recognize it. Anyone can get 127 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.360 in the flesh. But I will say just right away a new believer is 128 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.600 more inclined to that. A less inclined to be seeking the Lord in a 129 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.190 way that you know would bridle their tongue. Yeah, well, if you 130 00:09:41.269 --> 00:09:43.990 think about it as a new believers like a baby, you know, there 131 00:09:43.070 --> 00:09:48.230 are definitely situations an adult or a an older child can handle that that you 132 00:09:48.309 --> 00:09:52.710 would never subject a baby too. And these are new believers, are babies 133 00:09:52.830 --> 00:09:56.500 in the Lord. Yep, so there's zeal. Often Times, I know 134 00:09:56.659 --> 00:09:58.539 this was true of me. I think it's true of all of them. 135 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:05.059 Are Zeal and excitement over this new birth in the Lord certainly exceeds our knowledge 136 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:11.169 and our discern meant and our understanding. And so there is a danger where 137 00:10:11.529 --> 00:10:16.649 truth must be spoken, because truth is the you know, that's one of 138 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:22.080 the the spirit virtual armor that we put on when we go into battle. 139 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.360 Truth is the you know, the Butler that goes downd our waste. Yeah, 140 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.519 and if we don't have that because we're new, we have some truth 141 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:39.429 as new believers, for sure, but our our knowledge is is not well 142 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:45.870 developed yet. We are a baby in the Lord and if mistruth or flat 143 00:10:45.990 --> 00:10:52.139 out falsehood is spoken unwittingly by a new believer, it can do damage. 144 00:10:52.299 --> 00:10:58.299 This is life or death. It's happening out there on the sidewalk. So 145 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:05.450 so we want to be really careful that the people that are associated with us 146 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:11.769 or that are in a position to influence very vulnerable people who have a life 147 00:11:11.769 --> 00:11:18.679 or decision before before them, are honestly speaking as the Lord would have them 148 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.639 speak, not only from a not corrupt speech or an angry speech, but 149 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:28.039 from the position, a position of truth. Yeah, yeah, also, 150 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.600 I would say, for the sake of new believers. This is why, 151 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.549 again, we need to be careful, because for their own sake is they're 152 00:11:35.590 --> 00:11:39.870 growing in the Lord. Like you mentioned a baby. Right. I'm not 153 00:11:39.990 --> 00:11:43.870 going to put a sword in a baby's hand and tell him to go out 154 00:11:43.909 --> 00:11:48.460 into battle, right, not just because they're not going to be very effect 155 00:11:48.659 --> 00:11:52.500 of, but also they're going to get pummeled, they're going to get destroyed. 156 00:11:52.580 --> 00:11:56.059 Yeah, and I can tell you and now, I think different scenarios 157 00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:03.250 can lend themselves to different considerations. So, for example, in Charlotte, 158 00:12:03.850 --> 00:12:07.169 and it's gotten a little better from what I gather. Hadn't been there in 159 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:11.049 a couple of months, but it seems like even as right before I left, 160 00:12:11.049 --> 00:12:13.970 it got a little better where the pro abortion opposition wasn't so so intense 161 00:12:15.450 --> 00:12:18.519 I mean there was a time in which we were out there on a Monday, 162 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.559 Tuesday, during the week. Really, Saturdays are terrible, but during 163 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.200 the week it was getting where these pro abortion people are following us around with 164 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.360 cow bells, ringing them in our ears as we're trying to call out to 165 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.909 the MOMS. They'd be yelling just obscenities and just terrible things. They were 166 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:37.029 top of us and you know. So that scenario, I would say if 167 00:12:37.029 --> 00:12:41.269 you're a new believer, Nah, don't need to be out there unless year 168 00:12:41.830 --> 00:12:46.980 really really you've got some leadership. Myself for you or one of our team 169 00:12:48.019 --> 00:12:52.460 leads can really stay in really close to you really to protect you from what 170 00:12:52.620 --> 00:12:54.500 those pro abortion people want to do. is they want to they want to 171 00:12:54.539 --> 00:12:58.450 get you in the flesh, they want to get you kind of off the 172 00:12:58.529 --> 00:13:01.970 rails right, and so just kind of going back to my original point with 173 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:07.090 this, for us as leaders we've got to consider of course we want to 174 00:13:07.129 --> 00:13:11.049 glorify Jesus. That's the main consideration. We want to make sure that you 175 00:13:11.169 --> 00:13:16.480 know we're not saying anything, or the people that are under our umbrella are 176 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:22.120 not saying things that might be kind of latched on to by an abortion minded 177 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.399 mom as a justification for abortion right. And then, thirdly, we want 178 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.870 to make sure, for the sake of this new believer that wants to serve, 179 00:13:30.549 --> 00:13:33.350 that we're not putting them out as sheep among wolves right, right now. 180 00:13:33.470 --> 00:13:35.909 At the end of the day, we've got to trust the Lord and 181 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:41.980 we can never know everything perfectly and you know, I'll just say one of 182 00:13:41.059 --> 00:13:45.740 our experiences has been, and I think I've shared this on the podcast before, 183 00:13:46.299 --> 00:13:48.659 that we had a counselor who came out. This is the only time 184 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:52.659 that I know that this has happened, but it maybe it has. Has 185 00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:56.570 Happened a couple of times. I'm not sure, but accounsel that came out 186 00:13:56.769 --> 00:14:03.929 with her sister initially, and she came out almost in self righteousness. She 187 00:14:03.090 --> 00:14:07.409 was raised in a in a cult pretty much, and came out with her 188 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:11.879 sister, who was a believer who got converted, truly became a believer in 189 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.279 Jesus, just came out with her, but really out of self righteousness that 190 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.440 like I'm going to do something good for these babies or for these MOMS and 191 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.600 realize in the progression of things in which I didn't know. I mean, 192 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.190 she's she talked the talk and a lot of ways right. She carried herself 193 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:30.830 well and, you know, didn't cause a lot of problems, her any 194 00:14:30.870 --> 00:14:33.429 problems. Really, she was real blessing. But as things progressed to three 195 00:14:33.509 --> 00:14:37.190 months into serving out there on the sidewalk, she realized that she wasn't even 196 00:14:37.230 --> 00:14:41.779 a Christian herself, that she never really came to a saving knowledge of Jesus. 197 00:14:43.460 --> 00:14:46.019 And it's because of exposure to the men history on the sidewalk and the 198 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:50.700 Gospel, the True Gospel that she was not raised under, and other people 199 00:14:50.940 --> 00:14:56.529 discipling her. Ultimately she came to faith in Jesus right, and so that's 200 00:14:56.570 --> 00:15:01.850 kind of a weird scenario. And she didn't as soon as she realized she 201 00:15:01.929 --> 00:15:05.409 wasn't a Christian and finally did really come to faith in Jesus, she didn't 202 00:15:05.409 --> 00:15:09.240 stop coming out to the sidewalk because in a lot of ways she was already 203 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.919 seasoned, even had not been converted, already seasoned in the ministry and and 204 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.799 really had, even though she was raising a cult, I believe, a 205 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.549 lot of biblical truths and foundation sewn into her. She just was not a 206 00:15:22.950 --> 00:15:26.070 believer in Jesus. Yeah, so that's kind of a weird scenario. There's 207 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:28.470 going to be things like that. We have to leave allowance for God to 208 00:15:28.549 --> 00:15:31.029 do whatever he wants to do. And and but as leaders, I'll go 209 00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:35.429 back to this, we want to make sure that we guard the integrity of 210 00:15:35.470 --> 00:15:39.299 the ministry for the sake of the name of Jesus and that those who are 211 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:43.259 under us that we're doing right by them and not putting them out as sheep 212 00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:46.659 among wolves. Yeah, so that's it. That's kind of a good background 213 00:15:46.700 --> 00:15:50.490 on kind of the the positives and the negatives. Clearly we don't want to 214 00:15:50.570 --> 00:15:54.210 circumvent what God has planned, as he did with that young counselor where he 215 00:15:54.330 --> 00:16:00.129 ye, he really turned her life to him through sidewalk ministry. But let's 216 00:16:00.129 --> 00:16:04.080 look at at some of the verses maybe that that do guide us. And 217 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.720 there's a lot in Timothy, because Timothy was young, he was a new 218 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:15.960 believer. Yeah, and and the the Bible guides us in the first verse 219 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.990 that I looked at was in First Timothy Twelve. So I'll read that one 220 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:26.629 to you that in general it's guiding. The Bible's guiding us that young new 221 00:16:26.710 --> 00:16:33.179 believers should not be intimidated in ministry just because they are young or you. 222 00:16:33.860 --> 00:16:37.379 So it says, let no one look down on your youthfulness. This is 223 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:41.100 Paul, I think, talking to Timothy, Yep, that no one look 224 00:16:41.179 --> 00:16:45.580 down on your youthfulness, but rather, in speech, conduct, love, 225 00:16:47.059 --> 00:16:52.250 faith and purity, show yourself an example for those who believe. So I 226 00:16:52.289 --> 00:16:55.970 think there's kind of a couple of things going on in that verse. In 227 00:16:56.129 --> 00:17:00.769 one Paul is encouraging Timothy. Hey, don't let someone look down on you, 228 00:17:00.809 --> 00:17:04.799 don't be intimidated. But then he's also giving this list, not and 229 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:11.559 I'm sure not by accident, that there are things that can kind of guide 230 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:18.710 us in whether a new believer is far enough maybe in the faith, that 231 00:17:18.910 --> 00:17:25.670 their conduct would indicate maybe they are ready for some sort of ministry, and 232 00:17:25.789 --> 00:17:30.900 that that list again their speech, their conduct, their love, their faith 233 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:38.619 and their purity. So my take, calm, maybe you have a different 234 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:45.490 thought, Daniel, was that we should not automatically disqualify someone based on their 235 00:17:45.609 --> 00:17:55.329 youth or their newness in in the their walk with the Lord, but that 236 00:17:56.930 --> 00:18:00.160 they can actually even be a god, the example to others. But know 237 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:07.440 that list and as you're kind of vetting those, those young believers or these 238 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:14.150 new believers see how they stack up as best as you can. Yeah, 239 00:18:14.549 --> 00:18:18.029 yeah, and again we've got to trust the Lord and we can't know everything 240 00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:22.750 perfectly in our discernment is not perfect, right, but if you, if 241 00:18:22.750 --> 00:18:25.950 you've been walking with the Lord for long enough, you can kind of discern 242 00:18:26.069 --> 00:18:30.579 pretty quickly as you've been around someone, what their demeanor is through their speech 243 00:18:30.619 --> 00:18:34.859 and their conduct or right, and this is one of the reasons, not 244 00:18:36.059 --> 00:18:38.660 just for new believers but for just people interested in the ministry in general, 245 00:18:40.259 --> 00:18:44.410 that we do what we call shadowing. So someone wants to volunteer with us, 246 00:18:44.569 --> 00:18:48.529 we don't just train them and say come out right, but we actually 247 00:18:48.529 --> 00:18:52.769 have them shadow a team, a seasoned team that's been out there or seasoned 248 00:18:52.849 --> 00:18:56.960 counselors that have been out there and really that first time they come out in 249 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.160 shadow it's just to prey and observe. We won't them to really to see 250 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.880 the scenario, to see the ministry, to ask questions, and you can 251 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.480 tell pretty quickly as you're talking to someone. So normally how it works is, 252 00:19:10.230 --> 00:19:12.710 at least in Charlotte, will have a team that's functioning, US say 253 00:19:12.710 --> 00:19:17.549 our Monday team. Somebody wants to shadow, so Vicky will kind of take 254 00:19:17.630 --> 00:19:22.390 that person that shadowing and be right beside them basically the whole time, the 255 00:19:22.470 --> 00:19:26.500 whole two three hours they're out there, and be training them or just kind 256 00:19:26.539 --> 00:19:30.700 of giving them some general guidelines. Here's where you can stand, here's where 257 00:19:30.740 --> 00:19:33.660 you can't go. You can't walk across over there. That's the clinic property. 258 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:37.339 Here's why that person is saying this, here's why that person is there 259 00:19:37.420 --> 00:19:41.650 handing out literature to just kind of explaining the lay of the land and then 260 00:19:42.650 --> 00:19:48.289 answering questions. So the question will be, do you have any questions, 261 00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:51.410 any concerns, anything that you see out here that you don't quite understand? 262 00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:56.599 And you can tell pretty quickly by the questions that people ask where they're at 263 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.720 in some things right, if they're mature enough in their thinking and in their 264 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.880 walk with the Lord to really handle the ministry and to be, you know, 265 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:11.029 helpful to the team that's out there. Yeah, and so based on 266 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:18.309 that interaction and shadowing, and so we typically have them shadow two three times 267 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:21.500 actually, just to kind of see where they're at, to get a feel 268 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:25.660 for, you know, are they are they really somebody? That would be 269 00:20:25.700 --> 00:20:29.700 a blessing through the team out here also to give them an opportunity to see, 270 00:20:29.700 --> 00:20:32.460 hey, is this for me or maybe I'm not ready for this. 271 00:20:33.420 --> 00:20:37.529 And we've had people that have shadowed that have circled back around and said, 272 00:20:37.529 --> 00:20:40.529 I thought this was for me, but I don't think I'm ready for this. 273 00:20:40.609 --> 00:20:44.609 Yeah, and, and you know that's why we shadows. So that's 274 00:20:44.650 --> 00:20:49.920 good. We don't want to make the mistake of disqualifying someone that maybe really 275 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.960 is ready. They're not as ready as they will always be. Who of 276 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.839 us are. But but you know, a great example is we use this 277 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:10.390 so much David and as he's facing Goliath's taunts. Yeah, and and even 278 00:21:11.349 --> 00:21:15.990 the the army is saying, wait a minute, we're not sure if David 279 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:23.579 is ready. And but the Philistines look that that verse and for Samuel Seventeen 280 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.059 Forty, forty two is where it starts, and there's several, several verses. 281 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:33.650 But when the Philistines looked and saw David, he disdained him. Okay, 282 00:21:33.650 --> 00:21:37.089 so they're talking about the Philistine Goliath. He disdained him for he was 283 00:21:37.289 --> 00:21:42.609 but a youth. And all of us can have that danger of just disqualifying 284 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:47.359 someone just because they're young or because they're a new believer when indeed they are 285 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:52.359 exactly who God has chosen to fight whatever that enemy or that battle, that 286 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.920 battle is. Yeah, so, so anyway. So that's just a caution 287 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:04.309 that youth can be definitely called by God. New Believers can be indeed called 288 00:22:04.390 --> 00:22:10.269 by God, and we want to be open to that possibility. Body sometimes 289 00:22:10.630 --> 00:22:14.710 they themselves don't recognize it. I didn't. No, I wasn't a new 290 00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:19.660 believer, but I definitely did not feel I was up to what the people 291 00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:23.460 on the sidewalk we're telling me I should be doing. When I was brand 292 00:22:23.539 --> 00:22:26.900 new, they appointed me a team lead and I said, wait a minute, 293 00:22:26.900 --> 00:22:30.089 I have no idea what I'm doing out here. Whether that was good 294 00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:33.450 or bad, I don't know, but I kind of disqualified myself, even 295 00:22:33.490 --> 00:22:38.650 though others who knew what it takes to be a sidewalk counselor we're saying no, 296 00:22:38.769 --> 00:22:44.640 you can do this. And I think a verse that talks about that 297 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:51.960 a little bit is in Jeremiah, the book of Jeremiah, when he challenges 298 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:57.990 God, presumably when because he's young and God is appointing him to go and 299 00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:06.910 speak to to turn a very disobedient, wicked nation back back to God, 300 00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:11.630 and as God is speaking to Jeremiah, the Lord said to me, do 301 00:23:11.869 --> 00:23:17.019 not say I am only a youth, for to all to whom I send 302 00:23:17.059 --> 00:23:22.579 you, you shall go, and whatever I command you you shall speak. 303 00:23:22.299 --> 00:23:26.890 So again here is Jeremiah saying, but wait, I'm too young, and 304 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:32.170 God is saying, no, you're not. If I'm commanding you, if 305 00:23:32.210 --> 00:23:37.250 I'm sending you, then you go. Yep. So that's a guide for 306 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:44.799 how now can maybe you've experience this where again, in all the zealous excitement 307 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.920 of a new believer, they'll say I know God has sent me here to 308 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.799 do this, when indeed sometimes I will think I'm not. I'm not sure 309 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:57.990 if that's really what God has indeed sent you to do. Yeah, yeah, 310 00:23:57.990 --> 00:24:03.990 I mean I think there's some ways for us as leaders to help discern 311 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:07.309 that, and I think shadowing is one of those ways, getting someone who 312 00:24:07.309 --> 00:24:11.220 feels excited about getting involved or whatever to come out and shadow, to see 313 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:18.099 what this thing is all about, and then being intentional on our part to 314 00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:21.180 guide them through and to help them to see. ME, one of the 315 00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:25.849 strong warnings that we give to anybody is that this is intense spiritual warfare. 316 00:24:26.009 --> 00:24:29.130 Be Ready. For it we go. We don't want to scare people off 317 00:24:29.289 --> 00:24:33.089 with that, but we certainly do want people to understand the totality what they're 318 00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:37.009 getting involved in, that being out on the sidewalk is not just being out 319 00:24:37.089 --> 00:24:41.960 on the sidewalk right. You're going to carry the spiritual warfare in the battle 320 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.880 back into your home, back into your family because, like we've said, 321 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.400 this is the devil's pride and joy. You're coming directly in opposition to the 322 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.349 Kingdom of darkness and you need to be ready for that now. I think 323 00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:57.630 we do say that in stress that again, not with the purpose of scaring 324 00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:02.670 people off, but hoping that people will take that at consideration and if they're 325 00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.779 not spiritually prepared that they'll get scared all in, at least seek the Lord 326 00:25:07.779 --> 00:25:11.059 a little more and come back around. I mean, we've had people who've 327 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:12.740 wanted to volunteer. They came out, they understood, okay, this is 328 00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:17.380 too intense for me, they backed away for a while and then they came 329 00:25:17.420 --> 00:25:19.660 back around and said, I think I'm ready for this as they got into 330 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:25.369 the word more, got more of the word into them and they were spiritually 331 00:25:25.490 --> 00:25:29.250 prepared for it. So I think it's more than anything about spiritual preparation and 332 00:25:29.970 --> 00:25:33.930 about applying wisdom to the situation, for the person who's going to be involved, 333 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:38.359 the new believer or, you know, not seasoned believer, and for 334 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:44.759 the leaders too. So we have to be intentional about as people are coming 335 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.119 to us saying hey, I want to be trained, I want to be 336 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.549 out here, to really see if those folks are people that are going to 337 00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:53.029 be a blessing to the ministry and that the ministry is going to be a 338 00:25:53.069 --> 00:25:56.630 blessing to them, in light of how intense it is. Yeah, and 339 00:25:56.710 --> 00:26:00.349 I think so. I think kind of to summarize what you're saying is we 340 00:26:02.069 --> 00:26:06.380 should be cautious, very cautious with with new believers, because we understand the 341 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:11.259 enemy, having been out there in a fierce battle ourselves for so many years. 342 00:26:11.420 --> 00:26:15.740 We Tru we know the the power of the enemy. There's a perfect 343 00:26:15.819 --> 00:26:22.849 verse that that discusses that again in First Peter, and that's first Peter Five, 344 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:26.329 five to nine. So it's a few verses but really talks, I 345 00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:32.329 think, very directly to what you have just said. So well, likewise, 346 00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:37.839 you who are younger, be subject to the elders clothe yourselves all of 347 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.559 you with humility toward one another, for God to poses the proud and gives 348 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.960 rot grace to the humble. Humble yourselves, therefore under the mighty hand of 349 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.789 God, so that that at the proper time, he makes aught you, 350 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:52.150 casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be Sober 351 00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:57.710 minded, be watchful. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a 352 00:26:57.869 --> 00:27:03.019 roaring lion seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, 353 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:08.019 knowing that the same kinds of suffering your experience by Your Brotherhood throughout the world, 354 00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:17.130 so that that versus is warning these, these young believers, you need 355 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:22.410 to be under the counsel of elders, of those who are firm and steadfast 356 00:27:22.490 --> 00:27:26.849 in the faith. And then goes on to explain why, exactly what you 357 00:27:26.970 --> 00:27:32.119 said. Your enemy is powerful. Yeah, and and you need to know 358 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.119 how to fight him. Yeah, and I'll say the point here's probably one 359 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.279 of the most important points, as you're discerning. Let's say you've got a 360 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.869 person who is a new believer and they're outshadowing you. Yeah, if you 361 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:52.309 can discern that person's level of humility and submission to leadership, those two things 362 00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:56.869 are the most important. I would say, yeah, of what, whether 363 00:27:56.869 --> 00:28:00.619 or not that person is going to be a blessing or hindrance to the ministry. 364 00:28:00.660 --> 00:28:03.220 Yeah, that's one of the things that the Lord when you become a 365 00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:07.220 believer in Jesus, that's one of the things the Lord works on right away, 366 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:12.890 is your pride. Pride is the downfall of so many right and pride 367 00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:17.930 for even new believers, and let will tell you, new believers, I 368 00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:22.130 know myself as a new believer when I came to faith in Jesus. I'm 369 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:25.690 on fire, right, I want everybody to know about Jesus. Yeah, 370 00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:30.359 my pride often times, though, was a barrier for people knowing Jesus because 371 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.799 I thought like, in one sense, like I'm the only person in the 372 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:38.839 world that really knows Jesus because he saved me and he's doing that really that 373 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.829 warning, and I talked to you about this before we started the podcast, 374 00:28:42.509 --> 00:28:48.230 that Timothy, that that Paul gives the Timothy and First Timothy, chapter three. 375 00:28:48.869 --> 00:28:51.750 This is right before. That's that scripture that you're at before in verse 376 00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:56.859 six. The application is not a direct application. Paul's talking about overseers or 377 00:28:57.500 --> 00:29:02.539 elders in the church, but I think the principle is the same here, 378 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:07.019 or at least is applicable, and it's talking about overseer. Must Manages on 379 00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:14.490 household well, keep his children under control with complete dignity. For someone who 380 00:29:14.529 --> 00:29:17.289 does not hold know how to manage his household, how can he care for 381 00:29:17.369 --> 00:29:21.369 the Church of God? So in it's kin that's talking about elders in the 382 00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:25.599 church. But I think this point in verse six is actually an important point. 383 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.119 It says he must not be. This is the person who's being considered 384 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.960 as an elder or considered for that position, must not be a recent convert. 385 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.950 Some versions say must not be a Novast, but must not be a 386 00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:42.869 recent convert, or he may becomes conceited and fall under the same condemnation as 387 00:29:44.069 --> 00:29:48.869 the devil. And so this warning is about putting people in leadership. And 388 00:29:48.950 --> 00:29:52.099 so I'll say in particular, guys, as you're leading in your city or 389 00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:57.019 leading a sidewalk ministry people that you we always encourage our teams to put someone 390 00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.700 in charge as a team lead, and so we have a team lead for 391 00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:03.099 a Monday team. We've kind of went through that with you guys. You 392 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:08.450 guys know someone that leads that particular team for that particular time block, and 393 00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:14.089 I think this principle is very important there that when we put someone as a 394 00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:17.529 team lead, we need to make sure that person is not a recent convert. 395 00:30:17.569 --> 00:30:19.250 I would not put a recent convert, somebody's brand new to the faith, 396 00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:23.640 as a team lead. I would certainly consider having them on the sidewalk, 397 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:29.000 as long as they're humble and they listen and there they follow directions well, 398 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.400 they can be developed and they can crew really, really quickly and really 399 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.910 helpfully out there. But as far as putting them in a position of leadership, 400 00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:41.069 I want to make sure that you know they're not a recent convert. 401 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:45.470 I want to make sure that they have let the Lord deal with their pride, 402 00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:51.380 they're humble and that you know, listen. The best leaders are people 403 00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:53.380 that know how to be led. Right, yes, a matter of fact, 404 00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:57.539 you can't be a leader unless you know how to be led. Yeah, 405 00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.140 and so your ability to listen to others and to be led by others 406 00:31:02.339 --> 00:31:04.009 really con dictate whether or not your you yourself, will be a leader. 407 00:31:06.490 --> 00:31:08.930 But it says here if they're a new believer, they might be become conceited 408 00:31:10.009 --> 00:31:12.529 and fall into the same condemnation of as the devil. What's The concern here? 409 00:31:12.930 --> 00:31:17.890 Well, if you put someone in charge who's a new believer, they're 410 00:31:17.930 --> 00:31:21.920 going to start thinking it's because there's something special about them. Oh, there 411 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.799 must be something special about me that puts me above and beyond anyone else because 412 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.279 I just came to faith in Jesus and yet here I am in a leadership 413 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.910 position. And so they start to think, like the devil, that they 414 00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:37.309 deserve to be exalted above others. Right, and it's not because of the 415 00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:40.710 grace of God, it's not because of the mercy of God, it's because 416 00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:44.750 of them. And that is the trap and that is how they become conceited 417 00:31:44.789 --> 00:31:51.940 in their head swells and and and they will not be good leaders. It'll 418 00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:55.619 be destructive for them and for the people that they're supposedly leading. Yeah, 419 00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:57.900 so that's a big caution for us. And and as you were talking, 420 00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:02.250 I was thinking about we have team leads, but there are other positions of 421 00:32:02.369 --> 00:32:08.289 responsibility that are not necessarily a leader but are very helpful for the team. 422 00:32:08.529 --> 00:32:12.450 Someone who maybe is going to set up for us, set up the sound 423 00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:16.759 system, things like that, and that that might be positions that a new 424 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.680 person, a new believer, could could take, because the advantage of being 425 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.519 given responsibility as it tends to increase your commitment out there are so it can 426 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.910 damage you if you become prideful, but it can also help you in that 427 00:32:36.190 --> 00:32:40.349 you've become you have become a really important part of the team. All of 428 00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:45.460 the team members are important, but if you're doing a really necessary job that, 429 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:47.779 frankly, most people don't love to do, it makes you, you 430 00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:53.259 know, really valuable. Yeah, and it's also a way to test someone's 431 00:32:54.019 --> 00:32:58.339 someone's ability to lead. Listen again, if you can't be led, then 432 00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:02.130 you can't lead. Yeah, and leaders are called to be servants anyway. 433 00:33:02.450 --> 00:33:06.410 And so if you can't serve in some of these basic ways, and you 434 00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:09.369 guys can get creative as you're building teams and as you're having people out there, 435 00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:13.920 there's things. I mean you can have someone we put stickers on the 436 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.480 back of our literature. We have a sticker that has all of the different 437 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.680 pregnancy centers in the area on that sticker, and a way that someone new 438 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.069 can serve as slap stickers on the back of pamphlets. Right, set up 439 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:30.589 signage, set up the sound system. Like you said, you can get 440 00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:36.549 creative and give them some responsibility and see how they respond to that responsibility and 441 00:33:36.670 --> 00:33:40.700 then maybe they will be ready for some kind of leadership position or to be 442 00:33:40.779 --> 00:33:45.619 kind of put on a team, maybe not leading, but at least put 443 00:33:45.700 --> 00:33:50.500 on the team to co lead with someone. We've done that before as well. 444 00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:54.930 Yeah, there's no within this particular scripture. Again, I don't believe 445 00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:59.970 there's direct application to this, because what Timothy are what Paul is talking to 446 00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:04.009 Timothy about, is establishing leaders within the church. So there's a lot of 447 00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:07.409 differences as far as leaders in the church, then there would be as far 448 00:34:07.449 --> 00:34:10.599 as leaders on the sidewalk, right. Yeah, but there's some similarities as 449 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.800 well. And it doesn't give us a time restraint. It doesn't say they 450 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.239 shouldn't be a new convert, they have to be saved more than six months 451 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.039 or six years or, you know, a decade. It doesn't say that. 452 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.909 It doesn't give us a time restraint. It doesn't give us a this 453 00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:32.309 person is ready after so many months or whatever. And to really I think 454 00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:39.500 it's really on us as leaders to seek the Lord, to apply Biblical wisdom 455 00:34:39.659 --> 00:34:44.739 in the Biblical criterias here and really I think again those two things are very 456 00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:50.260 important. The person's humility, willingness to receive correction and things like that and 457 00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:53.250 their ability to be led. One of the ways you can help discern that 458 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:59.010 as well is if they're part of a local church. And listen, we 459 00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:01.130 don't let people volunteer under love life that that are not a part of a 460 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:07.280 local church. So that's that's one helpful thing there. But being part of 461 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.960 a local church, you could actually reach out to their church, reach out 462 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.800 to their pastor ministry leader. Maybe there Sunday school teacher, whatever, whatever 463 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.829 leadership. You can get ahold of their people that know them in that congregation 464 00:35:22.269 --> 00:35:24.989 and just ask Hey, is this person been faithful? Have they been of 465 00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:29.750 blessing your congregation? Can you tell me a little bit about them? And 466 00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:34.429 so you know, that's helpful as well. Yeah, in another verse, 467 00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:38.139 in in Second Timothy, or three verses, and second Timothy I think gives 468 00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:44.980 us some guidance about what to look for on the negative side of like you've 469 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:47.860 been talking about. What are some things that that really would help you to 470 00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:54.929 know that they're really ready for at least some roll out on the sidewalk. 471 00:35:55.010 --> 00:36:00.889 But so second Timothy, Chapter Two, versus twenty two to twenty five and 472 00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.960 I think that gives us some warning some of the things of youth that are 473 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:10.119 very common aspects of youth, of and by youth I mean children, but 474 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.639 also I'm thinking of believers as youth. They're young and in the faith, 475 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:22.750 so so that those verses say so flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, 476 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:25.909 love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a 477 00:36:27.030 --> 00:36:32.820 pure heart. have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies. You know 478 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:37.940 that they breed quarrels, and the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind 479 00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:44.219 to everyone, able to teach patiently, enduring evil, correcting his opponents with 480 00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:47.769 gentleness. God May hurt, perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of 481 00:36:47.769 --> 00:36:52.929 the truth. So youthful passions, you know, youth are known for being 482 00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.449 very passion at very emotional, which is great. We love it, we 483 00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:01.800 love that zeal and excitement, but it can be dangerous, those youthful passions, 484 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:08.679 because and then they go on to say foolish, ignorant controversies and that 485 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.719 breach corals. So that's the flip side, bad side of of that passionate 486 00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:21.630 nature is it can quickly flip into being quarrelsome or fighting for what you believe 487 00:37:21.710 --> 00:37:25.389 in in a way that is not whensome and is actually damna chain, as 488 00:37:25.469 --> 00:37:30.500 she as she kind of stated early on when we started, when we started 489 00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:32.940 this. Yeah, I mean, simply put, it can manifest itself and 490 00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:37.820 just being out on the sidewalk and arguing with a pro board or arguing with 491 00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:42.900 the dad that's going into the abortion center. And you know, that shows 492 00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:45.809 some real immaturity if we will go back and forth like that. Yeah, 493 00:37:45.849 --> 00:37:49.489 and it list that it can happen to anyone. Again, anyone can get 494 00:37:49.530 --> 00:37:53.369 in the flesh. It's really how someone reacts when they're because we're going to 495 00:37:53.489 --> 00:37:57.289 address that right. If that happens, if we see someone, it's a 496 00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.360 new person or a seasoned person, going back and forth and yelling back and 497 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.199 forth with a pro bord or with, you know, someone at the abortion 498 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.599 center, we're going to address it right. We're going to walk up to 499 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.199 them and say, hey, how's not good, you might need to step, 500 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.869 you know, across the street a little bit and pray or something like 501 00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.030 that. How they receive that really determines whether or not this person can, 502 00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:20.869 you know, are they going to be able to move forward, or they 503 00:38:20.989 --> 00:38:23.829 just really out here or because what it balls down to you, or they 504 00:38:23.869 --> 00:38:30.139 out here for selfish means right, they out here with impure motives, or 505 00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:32.300 they out here just for themselves and make themselves feel good, or whatever it 506 00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:36.099 might be. And one of the things that I see right away if I 507 00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:39.460 go to correct someone, I do try to do it privately and I'm as 508 00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:44.969 gently and kindly as I possibly can. If I see a lot of self 509 00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:50.090 defense, if I see a lot of justifying, rationalizing or just trying to 510 00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:55.760 just selfdefense, a defensive posture, that worries me because again, that's not 511 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.960 a humble accepting that they're truly could be an issue that they that they need 512 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.079 to address. So so we've talked about a few verses we mentioned, as 513 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:08.519 we often have. So we don't, I don't think, need to go 514 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.590 further into the David and Goliath thing. But but in especially in that passage 515 00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:19.269 and in these other passages, we came up with some things that we think 516 00:39:19.630 --> 00:39:24.659 are dangers to be aware of in Ministry with new believers and some qualities to 517 00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:28.900 look for a new believers. We have this on the article that we're going 518 00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:34.420 to put out and I bullet pointed them. We and I think we may 519 00:39:34.420 --> 00:39:37.300 have mentioned all of them to some degree or another, but maybe I'll just 520 00:39:37.460 --> 00:39:44.170 summarize what what those are, starting with what the dangers are if you're if 521 00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:47.170 you're in a ministry as a new believer. These are the dangers that you 522 00:39:47.289 --> 00:39:52.559 need to watch out for. They can be easily influenced if not well grounded 523 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.719 in the faith. And and what I mean by that is the pro apoorts 524 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.039 can be very convincing. Yeah, and for someone who's not well grounded, 525 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.750 they could sway someone from a new faith to thinking maybe I'm wrong, that 526 00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:14.750 it can actually harm that new believers faith. Yeah, they can become prideful. 527 00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:19.670 We talked about that. They can under estimate the lure of evil. 528 00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:27.019 I think that is a common danger of youth. Youth feel invincible, right, 529 00:40:27.059 --> 00:40:29.820 I know you probably did. I know I did. Oh, I 530 00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:32.019 can drive anyway I want. I'm not going to do all the stupid things 531 00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:39.130 everyone else on earth does in a car. So the the enemy is very 532 00:40:39.250 --> 00:40:45.010 powerful and if you're a new believer, you you can under mess underestimate his 533 00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:51.760 power and therefore put yourself in danger. Yeah, improper understanding of the handling 534 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.960 of the word of God, that God tells us that we are to be 535 00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.480 careful right in handling the word of God. And if you don't, you've 536 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.840 never done it, you haven't done it much. You can do it improperly 537 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.230 and actually damage Yep, the testimony. Twisting scripture, yeah, is a 538 00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:14.949 way. Just not being well grounded in the scriptures could twist some scriptures in 539 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.550 certain ways that are not helpful to you or the people that you're trying to 540 00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:22.820 minister to. Right. Yeah, emotions again, we've touched on that many 541 00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:29.260 times. The emotions of youth are are often not really quite under full control 542 00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:34.289 and that can be dangerous out there. You can get yourself hurt and and 543 00:41:34.489 --> 00:41:42.809 your team members hurt if you antagonize the the and already really volatile situation and 544 00:41:43.369 --> 00:41:49.400 zeal that's not tempered with wisdom is is another hallmark of youth. Not through 545 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.119 their fault. Wisdom really truly does usually come through age. You're at least 546 00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.719 walking the you know, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, 547 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.670 but that's only the beginning of wisdom. I think walking with the Lord 548 00:42:00.909 --> 00:42:07.429 is how wisdom is is developed, and they just haven't had that experience yet. 549 00:42:07.469 --> 00:42:10.510 Yeah, is there anything else you can add in terms of dangers? 550 00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:14.949 No, I think those are all great. I think those are all biblical 551 00:42:15.309 --> 00:42:19.699 and considerations that we need to have as leaders. Okay, people that would 552 00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:22.340 be new believers coming along. Yeah, so some of the key qualities to 553 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:24.900 look for. Again, we've touched on many of these. Involved in a 554 00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:28.300 local church. You mentioned that, Daniel. We have found that to be 555 00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:32.170 so incredibly important. Regular Study of the Bible. If you meet someone who 556 00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:37.250 doesn't new believer, who is not enthralled with the Bible, there's probably something 557 00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:43.170 wrong, because I know I voured the Bible more than even now when I 558 00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:45.599 was a brand new believer. I could not get enough of it. Yeah, 559 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.199 submissive to parent are rents. I think that is an important thing that 560 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.039 we didn't really outright discuss, but but I do think that submissive quality not 561 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.590 only to the church, you mentioned that, and to the people who are 562 00:43:00.630 --> 00:43:06.389 in charge, but to your own parents. If you've got a youth who 563 00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:10.829 is coralsome and fighting his parents and rebelling against his parents and then claiming that 564 00:43:12.070 --> 00:43:15.539 he loves the Lord and is you know, he knows clearly that God is 565 00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:21.219 directing him to do this, I would question. I would honestly have to 566 00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:24.460 conist. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, after all, if you can't honor 567 00:43:24.619 --> 00:43:28.130 your parents, who you can see, how can you honor God a you 568 00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:30.369 can't see? Yeah, that's kind of the principle in the fifth command on 569 00:43:30.610 --> 00:43:35.530 your father and your mother. Now there are situations. This is just kind 570 00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:38.969 of covey out here. There are situations that I've seen with new believers whose 571 00:43:39.010 --> 00:43:44.480 parents are not believers and there's obviously some contention there. But how they handle 572 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.719 that contention? Do they do they handle that in a respectful way, or 573 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:54.989 they just like almost spiritually rebellious, right? And are they handling the contention 574 00:43:55.030 --> 00:43:58.869 they have with their parents who are not believers in a way that honors the 575 00:43:58.989 --> 00:44:01.789 Lord? is their desire just to write their parents off or actually to bring 576 00:44:01.829 --> 00:44:07.710 them to the knowledge of the Lord through humility and Godly submission to their parents? 577 00:44:07.750 --> 00:44:10.739 Yeah, yeah, so humble and teachable. We mentioned that a few 578 00:44:10.780 --> 00:44:17.099 times. Responding to correction eagerly, without defensiveness. Eager is to explore the 579 00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:22.739 the Bible, a reliance and understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit, 580 00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:28.969 and I think that that does come more with experience, as you as you 581 00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:34.250 walk with God. Yeah, but if you think you're out there doing this 582 00:44:34.289 --> 00:44:38.039 all on your own power and not relying on on the Holy Spirit to guide 583 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:43.880 you, then again that you won't last very long and that can be really 584 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:49.480 dangerous. So the the last kind of major thing to talk about that is 585 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:54.909 what's our responsibility as leaders when we have youth out there, young believers out 586 00:44:54.909 --> 00:45:00.309 there or literally young people? Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we 587 00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:06.590 throughout this whole podcasts of kind of conflated youth as far as like natural youth, 588 00:45:06.670 --> 00:45:10.900 young people with Youth in the Lord, and obviously those two things can 589 00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:16.179 go hand in hand. But you can have new believers who were fifty years 590 00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:19.940 old, somebody just came to faith in the Lord, thirty years old, 591 00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:23.409 sixty years here's old. But again, the principles, I think, are 592 00:45:23.449 --> 00:45:27.449 still the same, right, they're still now you're going to have with a 593 00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:30.809 sixty year old person that's come to the Lord. Likely they're going to have 594 00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:35.960 some life experiences and things that help wisdom to be applied very quickly, biblical 595 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:40.000 wisdom they can kind of like apply almost in a retro sense, right, 596 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:45.519 and they understand some things that people who are young don't understand just about life 597 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.510 and general but again, the principle still can apply that if someone's brand new 598 00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:52.949 to the Lord and they're in a position of leadership, they can get puffed 599 00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:54.989 up and then fall into the trap of the devil. Like it says, 600 00:45:55.030 --> 00:46:01.349 they're first Timothy Three. But as far as we're concerned, those who are 601 00:46:01.510 --> 00:46:05.579 looking at these new believers, people that want to volunteer, people that are 602 00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:08.739 coming out on the sidewalk, that want to get plugged into the ministry and 603 00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:14.900 some capacity. May I think, more than anything, we've got US seek 604 00:46:15.019 --> 00:46:17.099 the Lord, we've got to do our due diligence and when we see these 605 00:46:17.300 --> 00:46:22.050 things, the these key qualities that you talked about, and they're not going 606 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:24.489 to be perfect, right, no one's perfect. We're not perfect, even 607 00:46:24.489 --> 00:46:27.889 as we've grown in the Lord and been walking with the Lord for, you 608 00:46:27.969 --> 00:46:31.880 know, twenty years or whatever. But yeah, you can see the beginning 609 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.519 stage of these things. Humility, teachability, all these other things. As 610 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.599 leaders we can help develop these things. We need to help encourage those who 611 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.920 are serving under us or those who would serve under us in like reliance on 612 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.909 the Holy Spirit, and the way we can do that is sharing our own 613 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:53.110 experiences right, sharing how we grew in the Lord in these certain areas. 614 00:46:54.389 --> 00:47:00.829 We need to help encourage these young believers that are wanting to serve to get 615 00:47:00.909 --> 00:47:05.780 in the word, even asking questions about when you're out there, they're shadowing 616 00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:08.099 you. Who asking the question? What do you think? What? What 617 00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:14.260 does the Bible say about life? Does the Bible teach that life begins at 618 00:47:14.300 --> 00:47:17.650 can inception? You? Can you think of any scriptures where the Bible talks 619 00:47:17.690 --> 00:47:22.889 about life in the womb, where he talks about the value of life in 620 00:47:23.010 --> 00:47:27.369 his word? And if they can't think of any scriptures, then point them 621 00:47:27.369 --> 00:47:30.960 out and say what consider this. You know, there's been even points where 622 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:38.000 new believers and seasoned believers have come out and have said things to the effect 623 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:44.239 of like well, you know, I'm a totally against abortion, but in 624 00:47:44.349 --> 00:47:47.469 the case of rape, like I'm I don't have a big problem with it. 625 00:47:49.469 --> 00:47:52.710 And now really truth is they haven't thought that through consistently. Right, 626 00:47:52.829 --> 00:47:59.219 because we're against abortion because it's killing an innocent person. A baby who's a 627 00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:01.940 result of rape is an innocent person. You can help someone, you can 628 00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:07.219 kind of draw that out and get them to articulate their position and then show 629 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:12.659 them biblically and logically how that's inconsistent, and we've had people change their minds 630 00:48:12.929 --> 00:48:16.849 in that particular instance. You don't want someone brand new that believes that, 631 00:48:17.010 --> 00:48:20.849 the believes it's okay in the situation of rape, to be out on the 632 00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:23.090 sidewalk. I mean you don't want anyone out there on the sidewalk that believes 633 00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:28.119 that, because you're going to have again, logically, inconsistencies. The PRO 634 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.719 abort people. They always put that out there right as rape is an exception. 635 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.800 It should be an exception, but it's really they're just trying to debit 636 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.679 you, to show that your position is not firm. Right, because if 637 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.389 you believe that abortion is okay in the situation of rape, your whole argument 638 00:48:43.429 --> 00:48:46.869 falls apart. Because we're out there not just because abortion is bad, route 639 00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:50.469 there because, yes, abortion is bad, because it kills it in as 640 00:48:50.469 --> 00:48:54.110 a person. All right, it's anyway. That's just one example of how 641 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:59.980 a new believer can really get looped in and how we, as seasoned in 642 00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:02.340 this ministry, would also season believers, can help walk them through. And 643 00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:06.500 so you know, I know you've done this before, but when we've had 644 00:49:06.579 --> 00:49:09.090 people that are new on the sidewalk, will send them some articles to read 645 00:49:09.650 --> 00:49:15.409 and we'll say we'll consider this, consider this scripture, consider what the Bible 646 00:49:15.449 --> 00:49:17.690 says in this situation and then get feedback from them. So what did you 647 00:49:17.769 --> 00:49:22.289 think? And we've had people literally a hundred eighty degree turn. I didn't 648 00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:30.119 consider that absolutely was wrong. That shows humility, teachability and that person can 649 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.519 ultimately, if they're teachable, if they're humble, they can serve and openly 650 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.150 kiss me themselves. To be why we read and parks on the sidewalk in 651 00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:43.030 North Carolina so much, because I was not a new believer when I came 652 00:49:43.150 --> 00:49:45.750 to the sidebuck. But what Daniel is describing as what he did for me, 653 00:49:46.909 --> 00:49:52.190 I I'm going to get TIRI. I'd thinking about it because I thought 654 00:49:52.230 --> 00:49:55.099 I knew the Bible really well. I thought I had some pretty firm positions 655 00:49:55.179 --> 00:50:01.340 and understanding of the whole pro life arguments and everything. And Daniel did exactly 656 00:50:01.420 --> 00:50:06.059 what he just described. He would just, you know, sidle up to 657 00:50:06.139 --> 00:50:08.369 me and say, Hey, have you ever thought about any just go off 658 00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:15.130 into some theological disc gushion that directly related, though, with with what was 659 00:50:15.210 --> 00:50:21.480 going on there, and I learned so much and I looked so forward to 660 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.199 being on the sidewalk. Isn't that weird? I couldn't wait because I knew 661 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:34.719 I am going to learn about God and how he works and how he works 662 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:40.710 through me out here, through Daniel helping so much to guide me. And, 663 00:50:42.429 --> 00:50:45.429 you know, in again using the analogy of a baby, which is 664 00:50:45.590 --> 00:50:50.579 what these new believers are. What do you do with a baby? You 665 00:50:50.619 --> 00:50:54.539 don't just like put the baby out on the street and and and have them 666 00:50:54.619 --> 00:50:59.340 grow up and do everything Huh on their own. You you never leave their 667 00:50:59.420 --> 00:51:05.289 side. You are there, that baby, right next to them, guiding 668 00:51:05.449 --> 00:51:09.530 my at first doing everything and then gradually, as that child grows, stepping 669 00:51:09.690 --> 00:51:15.610 back little by little, giving them more and more independence and as they grow. 670 00:51:16.369 --> 00:51:21.239 So that's it. That's really exactly. I think what we are called 671 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.400 to do is leaders, when we have young believers, new people out there, 672 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:31.079 is remember that they are not ready to be independent yet and they may 673 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.070 have all kinds of promise, but like a new like a newborn baby, 674 00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:42.230 we're gonna stay right with them and and help them through each stage of their 675 00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:45.710 development out there. Yeah, that's good, you're going to make my head 676 00:51:45.789 --> 00:51:49.579 swell a little bit. Yeah, I know, don't get pride fuller. 677 00:51:50.219 --> 00:51:52.739 We lose you. I want to get puffed up, but you know, 678 00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:58.260 all I've done in that situation is to do what's been done for me, 679 00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.090 as others have helped develop me and help me to grow in certain areas. 680 00:52:01.130 --> 00:52:05.570 And listen, guys, that's what you can do. You can help develop 681 00:52:05.730 --> 00:52:10.170 new believers into very effective sidewall counselors ultimately to a very effective leaders themselves. 682 00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:14.929 But it takes, as we've talked about, some some intentionality. So one 683 00:52:14.929 --> 00:52:19.440 of the things that we've we've kind of, as a model, laid out, 684 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.599 is the I do, you watch, I do, you help? 685 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.829 You Do? I help? You Do, I watch. So it's like, 686 00:52:31.070 --> 00:52:35.429 you know they're coming out, they're shadowing, they're watching us in action. 687 00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:39.590 Then next thing you know they're helping. You know they're standing next to 688 00:52:39.670 --> 00:52:43.590 Vicki and you know she's calling out and then she said, Hey, you 689 00:52:43.710 --> 00:52:47.139 call out now. You know. So they're helping and then they're doing and 690 00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:50.619 then Vicki's saying, you know, they're doing most of the talking. This 691 00:52:50.739 --> 00:52:53.340 is for people that are calling out, but they're looking over at vickuate. 692 00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:55.860 What else do I say? So she's helping them along, right. So 693 00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:00.210 that's the you do. I help, and then that you do, I 694 00:53:00.329 --> 00:53:04.329 watch. And so we're across the street at latrobe and we're watching the team. 695 00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:07.690 We're watching these new people that are developing grow and they're doing the stuff 696 00:53:07.849 --> 00:53:13.960 themselves. And so that's kind of that development model that we've kind of put 697 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.800 out there as far as a training model for sidewalk counselors, and you know, 698 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.800 with that I think we'll wrap this thing up. We hope that with 699 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.389 these podcasts. But what we're doing is helping to develop you guys, helping 700 00:53:28.469 --> 00:53:31.230 to grow you guys and your ability to grow other people. This is a 701 00:53:31.309 --> 00:53:36.869 multiplication thing, they say. The math of the Kingdom of God is multiplication. 702 00:53:37.550 --> 00:53:39.590 God's not just into addition, he's into multiplying, right. So we 703 00:53:39.670 --> 00:53:44.260 won't you guys to multiply yourselves, to see other people develop into leaders and 704 00:53:44.539 --> 00:53:47.780 develop other leaders and all of that so that ultimately these sidewalks are covered with 705 00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:52.820 season believers that know how to articulate what God says from his word, the 706 00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:55.690 Gospel, that know how to help these MOMS to get the help and the 707 00:53:55.730 --> 00:54:00.570 resources that they need. And you know, it does take time, it 708 00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:05.329 does take humility, and so we hope that these podcasts have been a blessing 709 00:54:05.449 --> 00:54:08.969 to you and you've taken time to listen to them and humility and and listen 710 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.000 to some of the things that we've said. And in humility I will say 711 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.559 we don't have it all figured out. So if you guys have other things 712 00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.840 you want to add to this conversation, things subjects and things like that, 713 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.559 the you think that we should consider, then we are certainly open to that. 714 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.349 So you can reach out to me, Daniel Love Life Dot Org, 715 00:54:25.989 --> 00:54:29.349 reach out to Vicky, Vicky at Love Life Dot Org, if you've got 716 00:54:29.389 --> 00:54:31.590 subjects you want us to cover. Or again, you've listened to a podcast 717 00:54:31.670 --> 00:54:35.150 in the in the past and you're like, what did you guys consider this? 718 00:54:35.230 --> 00:54:37.909 or I've learned this. Some of you guys that are listening you've been 719 00:54:37.909 --> 00:54:40.820 doing sidewalk ministry longer than we have and we would love to learn from you 720 00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:45.219 and maybe we'll have you on the podcast. We can certainly learn some stuff 721 00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:46.820 from you, and we've had others on the podcast in the past that have 722 00:54:46.900 --> 00:54:51.019 been doing this for a long time, because you know, we can learn 723 00:54:51.059 --> 00:54:53.010 from each other. So anyway, hope that's a blessing to you guys. 724 00:54:53.050 --> 00:54:57.730 Don't know, Vicky, you have anything else to say now, just you 725 00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:02.210 will all face this and and basically are our answer to the question should new 726 00:55:02.289 --> 00:55:07.130 believers be on the sidewalk is it depends. Yeah, you be a good 727 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.199 leader and you probably could have a brand new believer out there, but watch, 728 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.719 On't watch him like a baby. Yeah, yeah, it's good. 729 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.920 All right, I guess we're going to wrap this thing up. Hope it 730 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:19.239 was a blessing to you. Until next time. God, bless God, 731 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:30.789 bless you all. Give me our love for love. Give me our love 732 00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:44.460 for gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. Nothing's too precious 733 00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:45.099 in some you