She’s Young But Reaches Out in Boldness

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:06.040 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me, 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:11.630 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.669 --> 00:00:17.589 Gospel Center Pray Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.629 --> 00:00:21.230 you in pray life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. 5 00:00:21.429 --> 00:00:32.340 Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me, 6 00:00:32.539 --> 00:00:38.530 Lord. Welcome back to the Gospel centered pray life podcast. Appreciate you guys 7 00:00:38.570 --> 00:00:44.450 joining us and we'd appreciate if you guys would share this podcast episode. We 8 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:48.009 would appreciate if you guys would just share this podcast in general with your friends, 9 00:00:48.130 --> 00:00:51.200 people that would be encouraged and blessed by this podcast. The focus of 10 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.560 this podcast is the Gospel. We want to bring the Gospel to places of 11 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.600 darkness and in particular, and Pro Life Ministry, on the sidewalks at abortion 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.549 centers. That's the main focus of this podcast. We talked about other things 13 00:01:03.629 --> 00:01:07.790 from time to time, but really the focus is bringing the Gospel to the 14 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:14.709 abortion centers where the Gospel is needed. And we just did an episode that 15 00:01:14.909 --> 00:01:19.500 came out well today. Because we record these things, we can in advance, 16 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:23.659 but for you guys, it will be last Thursday. That was about 17 00:01:23.659 --> 00:01:27.340 boldness and I was blessed by it. Actually, just as we went through 18 00:01:27.340 --> 00:01:32.739 the different scriptures, Vicki, and as we just talked about how God, 19 00:01:32.930 --> 00:01:37.409 by his Holy Spirit, filled the apostles with boldness. Right, they spoke 20 00:01:37.450 --> 00:01:40.489 the word of God with boldness, and I hope it was a blessing for 21 00:01:40.569 --> 00:01:42.370 those of you who listened. I hope it wasn't a Blo I hope it 22 00:01:42.489 --> 00:01:47.840 was a blessing and encouragement to you that you can be bold, not because 23 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.319 of how great you are, but because of the one who's in you, 24 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:56.319 the Holy Spirit, and he can be bold through you. So please share 25 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.599 that episode and, as always, we encourage you to reach out and give 26 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.030 us some topics that you think would be a blessing, that maybe you have 27 00:02:04.150 --> 00:02:07.909 questions, things like that. We cover stuff like boldness, like how to 28 00:02:07.989 --> 00:02:10.310 be bold, how to operate in boldness. We also cover practical stuff, 29 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:15.819 like what to do when an ambulance shows up at the abortion center. Like, 30 00:02:15.060 --> 00:02:20.340 who does a podcast about that? Well, we do. Are Unique. 31 00:02:20.379 --> 00:02:24.979 Yeah, yeah, when. But but that boldness topic was actually be 32 00:02:25.099 --> 00:02:29.819 thought of it because of our guests today, right. Yeah, thought of 33 00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:37.530 it because of Jenna, because she's young and bold and I'm working with many 34 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:43.490 new counselors right now, also young, and there are varying degrees of boldness 35 00:02:43.770 --> 00:02:47.159 in them, and that's what kind of sparked that one and then led to 36 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.960 this podcast. Yeah, Les, we want to know what's her secret, 37 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.080 right, right, Daniel h yeah, this is kind of like a part 38 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.990 two of that previous pot. It is like how can this manifest? Yeah, 39 00:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.990 we gave you some scripture and some scriptural examples and some experiences that we've 40 00:03:05.030 --> 00:03:09.830 had, but we wanted to bring Jenna on because she's a bold young lady, 41 00:03:09.949 --> 00:03:16.580 but she's also she's humble. She walks in humility. She's walking with 42 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.939 the Lord, of course, and it's obvious that God is moving through her 43 00:03:21.979 --> 00:03:23.379 and working through her. So we thought that we would get her to share 44 00:03:23.379 --> 00:03:28.289 her story with you guys, maybe share what the Lord has taught her of 45 00:03:28.490 --> 00:03:31.370 how to walk in boldness. She's on the sidewalks, she's engaging people, 46 00:03:31.490 --> 00:03:36.650 but even beyond that, like she's engaging pastors, getting pastors to come out 47 00:03:36.689 --> 00:03:39.090 and if you know anything about love life, we try to get churches to 48 00:03:39.129 --> 00:03:43.960 adopt a week and ultimately do a prayer walk at the abortion center. She's 49 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.840 asking pastors to do that, pastors who've not really done anything about abortion. 50 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:52.120 She's getting them to come out and do a prayer walk at an abortion center, 51 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.669 which is really a difficult task. And so obviously she's got some boldness, 52 00:03:58.229 --> 00:04:00.509 but I think she would recognize, and we'll get her to share here 53 00:04:00.550 --> 00:04:04.629 in just a second, that it's the Lord working through her. So anyway, 54 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:08.310 we wanted to bring Jenna on. I hope this will be an encouragement 55 00:04:08.349 --> 00:04:13.099 to you guys. So yeah, so Jenna, just introduce yourself a little 56 00:04:13.099 --> 00:04:15.420 bit, kind of where you serve at and we'll kind of get into your 57 00:04:15.459 --> 00:04:19.980 background and the different things that we we think would help encourage others. Yeah, 58 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:24.529 Hey, guys. So my name is Jenna. I'm a sidewalk missionary 59 00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:29.290 and Rona, Virginia and I'm twenty one years old. I've been married for 60 00:04:29.649 --> 00:04:32.410 a little bit over a year now to my wonderful husband, Eastman, and 61 00:04:32.769 --> 00:04:35.970 he's here. He's from here, Roona, Virginia, but I was actually 62 00:04:36.009 --> 00:04:42.160 born and raised in Woodstock, Georgia. Okay, yeah, so your southern 63 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.519 girl I am. Yeah, that's probably where the boldness comes from. Actually 64 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.759 married twenty one years old, I mean when I met her, I'm sixty 65 00:04:51.870 --> 00:04:58.310 five and I'm thinking, Wow, they just keep getting younger and how is 66 00:04:58.509 --> 00:05:01.670 she gonna do? Because this is this is really I mean the sidewalk missionary 67 00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:09.899 in a new city, a big and very in many ways intimidating position to 68 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:16.579 to be in. So so we were all very pleasantly surprised by how you 69 00:05:16.819 --> 00:05:23.449 just really took the bull by the horns and and did what what you needed 70 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209 to do out there with with boldness, integrity and, like Daniel said, 71 00:05:27.250 --> 00:05:30.290 a lot of humility. Yep. But yeah, I'm very Y. I 72 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.370 did talk with you a little bit at at when we first met you, 73 00:05:33.569 --> 00:05:38.040 and I knew a little bit about your background, but can you kind of 74 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.720 fill us in a little bit about, you know, your family, your 75 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.959 upbringing, when when you came to the Lord and you know, things like 76 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.389 that. Yeah, absolutely. So. I'm actually the youngest of five children 77 00:05:51.550 --> 00:05:56.269 to my amazing parents, Jean and Jamie, and I was really kind of 78 00:05:56.430 --> 00:06:00.990 raised in the church and I also grew up going to a private Christian school. 79 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.420 So faith and Christianity, you know, those were never foreign terms to 80 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:10.620 me and my parents taught preschool in our church. They've taught for over fifteen 81 00:06:10.699 --> 00:06:15.699 years. So I feel like it was through my family and through other believers 82 00:06:15.819 --> 00:06:20.569 influence that really drew me to Christ at such a young age, because I 83 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:25.089 saw the way that they lived their lives and I just remember thinking like man, 84 00:06:25.170 --> 00:06:29.329 I want that. So I gave my life to Christ at five years 85 00:06:29.329 --> 00:06:33.399 old and I was baptized and, you know, growing up in the faith, 86 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:39.360 I feel like God really gave me a heart for people that were seen 87 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.399 as less than people who were maybe struggling in life, and serving others has 88 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.670 just really become a part of my heart and something that I desired to do, 89 00:06:48.509 --> 00:06:54.550 and God has always really revealed himself to me through the way that Jesus 90 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:58.350 reached out to, you know, what we would call the least of these. 91 00:06:58.509 --> 00:07:01.379 Yeah, yeah, so there was never really a time in your life 92 00:07:01.420 --> 00:07:06.579 that you remember that you were not walking with the Lord. Yeah, I'm 93 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:10.819 mad, is have Jesus was always, you know, a big part of 94 00:07:10.860 --> 00:07:15.500 my life and you know, even through holidays or just you know regular every 95 00:07:15.970 --> 00:07:18.329 every day of the week, it was a big discussion in our house and 96 00:07:20.209 --> 00:07:24.490 that had I had to develop my own faith, not just my families, 97 00:07:24.529 --> 00:07:27.610 and that was a challenge for me, but coming to look know the Lord 98 00:07:27.689 --> 00:07:30.920 on my own, through the influence of my family and through strong believers. 99 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.480 HMM. Yeah, so talked a little bit about I know you've already shared 100 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.839 a little bit, but when you came to know the Lord, what was 101 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:46.430 what was the context there, and just kind of the impact that the Lord 102 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:48.790 kind of you had immediately on your life, coming from being raised in a 103 00:07:48.829 --> 00:07:57.790 Christian home and having a faith that saturated the home, but then embracing Jesus 104 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:00.339 as your Lord and Savior. Kind of talk about that a little bit. 105 00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:05.220 Yeah, so, I mean growing up I had great influences through not only 106 00:08:05.259 --> 00:08:09.779 my parents but my siblings, and I saw them walking in the Lord and 107 00:08:09.379 --> 00:08:15.850 I think that's really what encouraged me to get to know this Jesus more. 108 00:08:16.490 --> 00:08:20.689 And, you know, growing up being in the church, you know every 109 00:08:20.769 --> 00:08:24.850 Sunday, every Wednesday, and being in a Christian school, that topic of 110 00:08:26.170 --> 00:08:30.079 Jesus and what he did for us on the Cross was very prevalent. But 111 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.039 I had to determine for myself what I believed and why I believed that, 112 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.509 and just through reading God's word, he really revealed himself to me and I 113 00:08:41.549 --> 00:08:46.029 feel like he showed me so much grace by revealing himself to me at such 114 00:08:46.070 --> 00:08:50.830 a young age that I was able to give my life to Christ at five 115 00:08:50.870 --> 00:08:54.269 years old, which, of course, I didn't know everything about the Gospel, 116 00:08:54.470 --> 00:09:00.500 nor will I ever, but he's continuing to reveal himself to me as 117 00:09:00.620 --> 00:09:05.860 I grow in the faith. Yeah, so it age five, you know, 118 00:09:07.019 --> 00:09:13.090 there's got to be just a very, very cursory understanding of sin and 119 00:09:13.570 --> 00:09:18.490 and just all of the other, you know, major biblical concepts would as 120 00:09:18.570 --> 00:09:22.490 you got older. Were you just building on that or was there a period 121 00:09:22.529 --> 00:09:26.440 where you really thought, I'm not sure any of this is true and you 122 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.080 had to kind of go and re examine it? I would say, you 123 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.600 know, there's always doubts, always questions that I've had in my mind, 124 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.559 but my dad would explain to you that he's always seen me as a very 125 00:09:37.590 --> 00:09:41.990 black and white person, the way that I view things, and I think 126 00:09:41.029 --> 00:09:46.029 that's because of my foundation on scripture. He often shares an example of one 127 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:50.590 time when we were at a roller skating rink and I was, you know, 128 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.460 going around the rink and the announcer said, all right, it's time 129 00:09:54.460 --> 00:09:56.299 to get off the you know, off the floor, and immediately. He 130 00:09:56.460 --> 00:10:00.580 said I'd be lined it all the way from the oppossite side all the way 131 00:10:00.620 --> 00:10:03.139 over to where he was, and I got off and I looked behind me 132 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.100 and I was like, why are they not listening? Why is everyone still 133 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:09.769 going around the rink? So I feel like that's a good example of how 134 00:10:09.049 --> 00:10:13.490 God has really given me that black and white view of scripture and, you 135 00:10:13.610 --> 00:10:22.080 know, life versus or evil versus good. Right. Yeah, yeah, 136 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:28.120 if I forget to ask later, it may not be the right point now 137 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.440 to ask, but I want you to kind of keep in your mind if 138 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.629 you've ever been challenged by someone saying you always knew God, you always knew 139 00:10:35.629 --> 00:10:41.110 right from wrong, you had an incredibly supportive family who always guided you and 140 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:48.230 right from wrong, you can't possibly understand where I'm coming from, because I 141 00:10:48.350 --> 00:10:54.740 know I have heard that to other young people raised in the faith from a 142 00:10:54.899 --> 00:11:00.500 a very hurting, wounded population, which are most of the women that are 143 00:11:00.539 --> 00:11:03.139 going to be entering an abortion center right so I don't know if we want 144 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:07.250 to answer that right now or if you want to think about that and we'll 145 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.690 touch on that later, maybe in this in this chat. Yeah, I 146 00:11:11.809 --> 00:11:20.159 mean I'll answer that myself for you are you didn't have that stainless background, 147 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.519 did you, Dan? Yeah, not really. What the Bible says of 148 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.440 itself like if you have. This is Paul speaking to Timothy, talking about 149 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.919 the word of God. Yeah, that, if you've got the word of 150 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.509 God, I'm paraphrasing, then you're thoroughly equipped for every good work. Like 151 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:37.269 you know, personally, I've never been a woman, never been pregnant, 152 00:11:37.350 --> 00:11:41.509 and so I've had the accusation gets me. How do you know? You 153 00:11:41.549 --> 00:11:43.549 don't know what it is to be pregnant, you don't know it is to 154 00:11:43.549 --> 00:11:46.139 be a woman. Who are you to talk to me? Well, I'm 155 00:11:46.220 --> 00:11:48.779 someone that loves you and cares about you, and though I don't have all 156 00:11:48.820 --> 00:11:54.100 of your life experiences, no one does. No one has everybody's life experiences. 157 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:58.580 You know, you could. You could come from a horrible background and 158 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.610 not be the same ethnicity as somebody in you. Of course, don't know. 159 00:12:03.289 --> 00:12:05.330 They're cir their circumstances, of their situations, but what you do know 160 00:12:07.169 --> 00:12:11.490 is you know truth, and if you know truth, then you've ultimately got 161 00:12:11.610 --> 00:12:15.009 what people need right they need and encounter with the truth. The one who 162 00:12:15.009 --> 00:12:18.799 is the truth, Jesus, himself. So I'm answering that for Jenna, 163 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.000 although we can let her answer that later on if she I think that's a 164 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.639 that's a great answer. I think what I'm hearing, and have always heard, 165 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.509 is that she has truth and she has always had that in her background 166 00:12:31.509 --> 00:12:37.350 and that is powerful and attractive. Yeah, and people will seek after that. 167 00:12:37.710 --> 00:12:43.190 So tell us about what brought you to sidewachman ministry, because that's you 168 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.700 said. You always felt you wanted to help others, kind of that that 169 00:12:46.899 --> 00:12:52.740 was your model that you saw in Jesus. This is a very difficult ministry 170 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:58.850 and not a popular one and really, in many ways unknown, and I 171 00:13:00.049 --> 00:13:03.009 didn't know about it. I'd been a Christian for thirty years before I have 172 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:05.409 heard knew that people did this. So here you are, aged twenty one 173 00:13:05.490 --> 00:13:09.929 and you chose to devote your life to it. What made you, or 174 00:13:09.970 --> 00:13:13.679 at least your life right now, out to that? So what brought you 175 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.120 here? Yeah, well, God is, you know, he's very detailed 176 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.840 and very intricate with his plans. So it is amazing how I got where 177 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.840 I am today. And you know, being raised in the church, being 178 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.190 pro life is kind of in the DNA and the fingerprints of being a Christian. 179 00:13:31.669 --> 00:13:35.470 But it wasn't until my freshman year of college where I was truly exposed 180 00:13:35.509 --> 00:13:41.460 to the, you know, atrocity of abortion. So I was going to 181 00:13:41.539 --> 00:13:46.179 community college in Georgia for a degree and dental hygiene and I was just taking 182 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:50.980 my core classes, one of which, one of which was American government and 183 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.769 what my professor one day decided to bring up the topic of abortion and she 184 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.090 allowed us to have kind of a discussion about it, but it ended up 185 00:14:01.169 --> 00:14:05.169 not being much of a discussion. It was actually very much one sided in 186 00:14:05.289 --> 00:14:11.399 favor of abortion, and honestly, I can just remember sitting there that day 187 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.919 and my body was physically shaking and I was almost just angry that my generation 188 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.960 had been so deceived to believe that abortion was okay. And I wasn't prepared 189 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.830 that day to be a voice for the voiceless. I didn't know what to 190 00:14:26.909 --> 00:14:31.549 say, but I was motivated to do something further. So right after class 191 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:35.309 that day, I actually went up to my professor and I just started telling 192 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:41.259 her what I thought about abortion. And it turns out she was pro life 193 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:45.740 and a Christian, and not only that, but she had been praying for 194 00:14:45.940 --> 00:14:50.139 God to raise up a student on campus that could help her start a pro 195 00:14:50.299 --> 00:14:54.009 life club at the school. So together, me and her, you know, 196 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.330 we got connected with students for life and we watched this club on campus 197 00:14:58.769 --> 00:15:03.769 to really just educate students on abortion and then also to help expecting moms, 198 00:15:03.809 --> 00:15:09.320 and we would do, you know, occasional sidewalk outreach. And then it 199 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:16.799 wasn't too long before covid hit and caught wind and it, you know, 200 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.240 closed the school campus and I was laid off my job and I was just 201 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.029 stuck at home and didn't know what to do with my time. So during 202 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:30.070 this time I was engaged and I was planning to move to Virginia after the 203 00:15:30.149 --> 00:15:35.230 wedding and I didn't really want to invest in this school club that I wasn't 204 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:37.220 going to, you know, be a part of anymore once I moved. 205 00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:43.179 But I still wanted to be involved in pro life work. So what I 206 00:15:43.340 --> 00:15:48.299 started to do was outreach through social media, on instagram and facebook, because 207 00:15:48.340 --> 00:15:50.809 that was really the only place at that time that I could have a voice. 208 00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:54.610 So I was just writing posts about, you know, how would you 209 00:15:54.649 --> 00:15:58.649 respond to typical pro abortion arguments, so that I could share it with my 210 00:15:58.769 --> 00:16:06.480 followers and educate people. And then over that summer a friend of my husband's 211 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.519 actually saw my social media post, and this is kind of some of the 212 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:15.039 intricate details of the whole story, but he was staying with Josh Cappis Love 213 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:22.110 Life Cope or, you know, Co President or vice president, and yeah, 214 00:16:22.629 --> 00:16:26.429 he was telling Josh about some of my posts and this was really at 215 00:16:26.509 --> 00:16:32.549 the time when love life was expanding from Charlotte all the way through love life 216 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:37.019 America. So I got in contact with Josh and we started having zoom meetings 217 00:16:37.139 --> 00:16:41.779 and I was invited to training with you, Vicky and Daniel. So I 218 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:45.019 attended that training and I think it was August of two thousand and twenty and 219 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:51.970 you know, I was commissioned as a sidewalk missionary and went off to Rona, 220 00:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.649 Virginia, and that's where kind of this ministry began. So, as 221 00:16:55.730 --> 00:16:59.049 you can see, you know, God is really in the details and has 222 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:03.759 guided me to where I am right now. Yeah, that's an amazing story 223 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.920 and this is like a little point that you made early on, but I 224 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.279 am dying to know so that you you were in a class with a professor 225 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:21.910 who communicated a what was really the pro abortion side and unless time it's understood. 226 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.589 You. She actually went down and talked to her and she was actually 227 00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:30.940 prolife. Yeah, so what she had communicated that day was just that we 228 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:33.700 were going to be talking about abortion, but she wasn't doing much of the 229 00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:38.619 talking. It was the student who were having a conversation in class. So 230 00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:42.660 it was really all these pro abortion students, people that were my age, 231 00:17:44.099 --> 00:17:47.490 that were, you know, for abortion, and I was the only person 232 00:17:47.529 --> 00:17:52.609 in class that day that was against abortion and I didn't know much to say, 233 00:17:52.730 --> 00:17:56.410 but I do remember bringing up the fact that life begins its conception and 234 00:17:56.569 --> 00:18:00.319 talking about all the human DNA, you know, that unique, never to 235 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.240 be made again, human DNA, and that was the only thing that I 236 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.680 could think of that day to talk about and you know, that has motivated 237 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.750 me to be more prepared so that I can have those conversations with people. 238 00:18:14.869 --> 00:18:18.910 Yeah, it also was a scenario that is not unlike what you faced on 239 00:18:18.990 --> 00:18:22.309 the sidewalk. You are you are usually one voice in a sea of opposition. 240 00:18:22.829 --> 00:18:27.700 And and so the personality type, I think, that thrives in that 241 00:18:29.059 --> 00:18:34.619 kind of a mission or ministry is someone who is bold enough to not shrink 242 00:18:34.779 --> 00:18:41.650 back from the fact that you're one of very few that are, you know, 243 00:18:41.890 --> 00:18:45.930 trying to speak what you believe is right and true. Yeah, that's 244 00:18:47.089 --> 00:18:51.250 so, that's that's pretty amazing. God really was that to you know, 245 00:18:51.450 --> 00:18:55.720 speaks to situations where, you know, because we can lack confidence and we 246 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:00.799 can lack boldness and we can even shy away from putting ourselves in situations where 247 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.880 we're going to be put on the spot. And I don't think that day 248 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.359 that you knew you're going to be put on the spot in that way, 249 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.269 but you did know, going into a university or to a college campus, 250 00:19:11.470 --> 00:19:15.150 that it was going to be sort of a hostile environment, right. Yeah, 251 00:19:15.269 --> 00:19:18.869 and as believers in Jesus, we've got to be willing to put ourselves 252 00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:22.950 in hostile environments because what often times the Lord will do in those environments is, 253 00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:27.779 like you said, use that to spur us on to dig deeper and 254 00:19:27.900 --> 00:19:32.539 to figure out. Okay, I don't know how to combat these arguments right 255 00:19:32.579 --> 00:19:36.099 now, but I'm going to find out. And I would say the same 256 00:19:36.140 --> 00:19:38.410 way as far as the sidewalks are concerned, I get a lot of questions 257 00:19:38.450 --> 00:19:41.210 from people who say, you know, I don't want to go out there 258 00:19:41.289 --> 00:19:45.130 because I don't know what to say. I don't know how to respond when 259 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:49.609 someone says this or says that, and we we do podcast episodes to help 260 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:52.119 you know how to respond. So we've taken care of that for you. 261 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.480 But the fact is we can never do enough episodes to tell you how to 262 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:02.240 respond in every situation. You've got to just go out there, put yourself 263 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:07.000 on the line in the sense put yourself in an uncomfortable situation, and God 264 00:20:07.150 --> 00:20:10.349 would like. We promise, God will grow you and ways in your walk 265 00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:12.190 with God. If you go out there on that sidewalk, you will grow 266 00:20:12.269 --> 00:20:15.470 in ways that you will not grow otherwise, and I think that's what you've 267 00:20:15.829 --> 00:20:19.390 discovered, even in that setting, but also being out on the sidewalk. 268 00:20:19.990 --> 00:20:22.619 Am I right about that? Yeah, definitely. You know, you grow 269 00:20:22.619 --> 00:20:26.660 up and if you grow up in the church, you kind of grow up 270 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.619 in what people call the Christian bubble. Yes, and going to college, 271 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.980 university be that wasn't, you know, faith based. It was kind of 272 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:40.049 a culture shock for me to see that there are actually different opinions. So 273 00:20:40.210 --> 00:20:45.529 it is important that we're preparing ourselves, you know, for needing to respond 274 00:20:45.849 --> 00:20:51.599 to those other opinions and showing them the Gospel through it. Yeah, throughout 275 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.799 that semester, were you able to go back to those students, to that 276 00:20:55.000 --> 00:21:00.240 class, and slowly begin to give your point of view and challenge their worldview? 277 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.750 Yeah, great questions. So I actually did go back to that class 278 00:21:04.990 --> 00:21:10.750 and that same professor who helped me start the pro life club, she invited 279 00:21:10.829 --> 00:21:14.509 me to come share about, you know, our club that we had started 280 00:21:15.069 --> 00:21:17.950 and to share a little bit about abortion. So I was able to go 281 00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:21.819 back and share the truth that I had learned. So that was an amazing 282 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:26.900 opportunity to be able to respond. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I 283 00:21:27.019 --> 00:21:30.259 was going to ask what are some of the things that you did to help 284 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:34.089 equip yourself? You know, you're in that situation you leave with, you 285 00:21:34.210 --> 00:21:40.130 know, barely being able to answer, at least not having a good framework 286 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:42.210 for answering these things. Is here you are exposed to a whole classroom for 287 00:21:42.289 --> 00:21:45.769 the pro abortion people. What did you do? What did you go online 288 00:21:45.809 --> 00:21:49.799 and sort some websites and get some information and things like that? Yeah, 289 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.400 so right after that day, I mean I was fired up, like God 290 00:21:53.519 --> 00:22:00.799 was really breaking my heart that day and I was just so motivated to educate 291 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.589 myself. So I went home and immediately I just started watching Youtube video after 292 00:22:06.670 --> 00:22:12.789 Youtube video of people responding to pro abortion arguments and learning what the best way 293 00:22:12.829 --> 00:22:19.900 to communicate with someone would be and how to use scripture to guide those conversations. 294 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.500 And so, in a sense, as always like to use a we 295 00:22:25.619 --> 00:22:30.210 talked about boldness and stepping out the analogy of David, David and Goliath, 296 00:22:30.289 --> 00:22:33.410 in a sense, like Goliath was in that classroom that day, this this 297 00:22:33.730 --> 00:22:40.250 big culture of death thing, mocking God, mocking the truth of God, 298 00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.160 and you went and guts five smooth stones to take the life down right. 299 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.359 Yeah, that's kind of what happened. That's that's good. I think it's 300 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:57.279 just so astonishing how sometimes there are single pivotal moments in life that really are 301 00:22:57.990 --> 00:23:02.309 they truly do change the trajectory of our life, and it sounds like that 302 00:23:02.390 --> 00:23:10.230 that classroom situation was was one of those. And and how how wonderful of 303 00:23:10.349 --> 00:23:14.700 God to point you not only through that experience, but then to point you 304 00:23:14.740 --> 00:23:18.019 to josh and to be able to find out, hey, there is a 305 00:23:18.099 --> 00:23:22.660 place where I can do what God has now raised a passion in me to 306 00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:27.450 do. Absolutely so. Yeah, and to see that plan through the through 307 00:23:27.569 --> 00:23:32.690 this school reveal itself to me. You know, if anyone knows me, 308 00:23:33.130 --> 00:23:37.289 I had mentioned I was in going to school for dental hygiene. But if 309 00:23:37.329 --> 00:23:41.119 anyone knows me, like I am not into other people's dental hygiene. So 310 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.279 it was very bizarre that I was even going to school for that in the 311 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.359 first place. But that was the only college in my area that offered a 312 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.240 degree and m a hygiene. So it was God guiding me there specifically for 313 00:23:53.400 --> 00:24:00.069 that moment to break my heart for abortion. Yeah, amazing, that's pretty 314 00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:04.430 that's pretty cool. And then just seeing how the Lord made that connection with 315 00:24:04.710 --> 00:24:08.670 ultimately with love life and, you know, just at really the right time. 316 00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:17.660 That was pretty cool. So your fiance's friend was staying with Josh because 317 00:24:18.059 --> 00:24:21.099 he knew Josh's family or something. I can't remember, like you, I 318 00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.769 think. Is that an internship some way or something like that? And when 319 00:24:23.809 --> 00:24:30.049 he's internship of Chickfula, staying with Josh and his basement and heard about this 320 00:24:30.210 --> 00:24:33.970 love life thing and kind of US expanding and hey, here's a here's a 321 00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:38.039 girl that I know who might be interested in this. You end up coming 322 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:41.960 a boot camp, which I know that was a step of faith as well. 323 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:48.039 And and then really, once you hit the ground in Rowano, he 324 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.680 really hit the ground run. It has been just such a blessing for us 325 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.029 to see so rewarding. I don't know about for you, Vicky, but 326 00:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.069 it's for me to see we've sown some some principles and some truth into people 327 00:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.869 and just to see those seeds that we've sold take root. It's really rewarding. 328 00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:10.819 It really is, and I would love to hear from your perspective it. 329 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:14.299 You're still pretty new at this, I guess it has it been a 330 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:18.380 year of year that all over, a year to yeah, think back when 331 00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:22.170 you started here. You are no one else, is that there right, 332 00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:26.650 this is you starting a ministry at a at an abortion center in your city. 333 00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.650 How did you feel? What were the challenges? Did you feel this 334 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:40.880 boldness and confidence that we see in you as you step out on that sidewalk 335 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.000 or step in front of pastors? So kind of talk us through those those 336 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.039 first days, what you were feeling as a young person this this new, 337 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:56.430 challenging time in your life. And and you know, where did you go 338 00:25:56.589 --> 00:26:00.309 from there? Yeah, so when we first got out to the clinic, 339 00:26:00.349 --> 00:26:06.059 I hadn't done much sidewalk counseling before love life. I had, you know, 340 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.259 gone out to an abortion clinic a few times and maybe held a sign 341 00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:14.819 and prayed, but I hadn't communicated with anyone who was abortion minded. So 342 00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:19.450 I was very overwhelmed when first going out. But I remember the first time 343 00:26:19.529 --> 00:26:25.490 my husband came with me to play parenthood in Roanoak and the first three women 344 00:26:25.609 --> 00:26:30.329 that came in stopped and took resources and I just couldn't believe it. And 345 00:26:30.609 --> 00:26:34.119 while there's challenges to being young, I feel like there's also different benefits as 346 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.079 well. I feel like God has really put favor on me as far as 347 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.759 being able to communicate with these women. You know, they see a young 348 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.200 girl and I think it makes me approachable. But you know, like you 349 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.589 said, there's also those challenges as well. There's been times where I'm not 350 00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:53.630 taken seriously and I've been called, you know, referred to as a little 351 00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:56.710 girl, or that I'm ignorant and don't know, you know, don't know 352 00:26:56.750 --> 00:27:02.140 what I'm talking about or I don't understand. And I've been asked several times 353 00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:06.180 myself if you know I was even a mom, because I couldn't understand what 354 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.339 they're going through, which, you know, it doesn't take being a mom 355 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:14.539 or an older adult to understand that God has placed value on life and that 356 00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:18.490 he cares for the unborn. So yeah, there's definitely that benefit and that 357 00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:22.329 benefit of being young, but there's a challenge as well, and I know 358 00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.490 that I had a lot of doubts going into this Ministry of, you know, 359 00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:30.920 just asking God like why me, like why would God pick me? 360 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.119 You know, at this when I was first starting with love life, I 361 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.240 was nineteen years old. Wow. So I was like, why me, 362 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.400 when there's so many other adults that are more wise than me or more equipped 363 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.150 than me? But it's not about my capability, it's hot about what I 364 00:27:45.349 --> 00:27:49.910 can do, but about what Christ can and will do through me. And 365 00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:52.990 I remember at boot camp, if you guys kept telling us over and over 366 00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:59.019 again that you're running with the willing. So while I may have been, 367 00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:03.180 you know, the youngest there, there was adults up to seventy s beyond, 368 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:07.380 but the same the thing that we all had in common was, first 369 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:11.500 of all, faith in Christ and we understand that we're simply just vessels, 370 00:28:12.049 --> 00:28:15.890 you know, ready to be used by God. So, even through those 371 00:28:15.930 --> 00:28:21.650 challenges of debt doubt that I've faced. I trust that God will do the 372 00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:25.130 work through me and you know, all I have to do is be willing 373 00:28:25.210 --> 00:28:30.240 and obedient. Yes, that's so true that that gets kind of to that 374 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.960 question. I asked early on when people challenge you because you have not had 375 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.160 their experiences, and you answered very similarly to how how Daniel answered that it 376 00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:45.390 those experiences are not what you need. You Need Truth and you've got that. 377 00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:52.710 You've got that through through the Lord. So did you ever have someone 378 00:28:52.750 --> 00:28:57.859 really come and say I I'm not even going to talk to you because you 379 00:28:59.019 --> 00:29:06.299 can't begin to know what it's like to be pregnant and poor when you've never 380 00:29:06.339 --> 00:29:11.210 even been pregnant and you've got, you know, this supportive family? I 381 00:29:11.769 --> 00:29:17.450 would say we've had an overwhelming good response from most of the people that we 382 00:29:17.529 --> 00:29:22.089 have conversations with. So I went necessarily say that I've had people, you 383 00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:26.519 know, ask me for a response in that way. But when we first 384 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.440 got started, it was very slow and we weren't seeing any fruit from our 385 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.240 labor, Labor, and that was very discouraging to me and I just started 386 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.079 asking my mom. You know, I'm in Rono Virginia at this time and 387 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.950 my mom and my family and all my friends are back in Woodstock, Georgia, 388 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.150 and I just asked her like would you please, please pray for us, 389 00:29:45.269 --> 00:29:48.950 and she felt moved by the spirit to start a prayer group for us. 390 00:29:48.430 --> 00:29:52.220 And once this prayer group took place, you know, these are people 391 00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.859 praying from Woodstock Georgia, people praying from our area and even across the United 392 00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:03.180 States. We saw this huge shift take place and there were more families that 393 00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:07.210 were coming up and talking with us and they were open to communicating and they 394 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:10.930 were being vulnerable with us, which is something that I hadn't seen before. 395 00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.049 So I would say that we have had a really, you know, a 396 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:18.250 great response from the families that we do have an opportunity to talk to. 397 00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:23.359 I love would what you just pointed out. It's such a truth that you 398 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.839 perceived that this battle was truly not a battle of flesh and blood, but 399 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.079 a spiritual battle, and you began immediately to fight it with spiritual weapons, 400 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.430 and that's when a turnaround came. So so the prayer, a faithful prayer 401 00:30:37.470 --> 00:30:44.630 group behind you. That's that's amazing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I 402 00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:48.589 mean I would say, Gosh, that's something I've learned as well. I'll 403 00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:53.339 just knowing the spiritual warfare that we're in and knowing the battle that we're facing. 404 00:30:53.579 --> 00:31:00.059 It's so intense and the discouragement that can come can be so it can 405 00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:04.490 be detrimental. Just the discouragement that we can be under. Knowing that there 406 00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:10.930 are people specifically behind US praying is a powerful thing. I've seen a shift 407 00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:15.130 myself, even being out here in California. There's just been some challenges and 408 00:31:15.289 --> 00:31:21.119 things. Moving my family out here has been a challenge and just spiritual warfare 409 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.480 that's here, the devil trying to come in and just distract and all these 410 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.480 other things like, man, I need to get a prayer group together myself, 411 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.480 so I reached out to a couple of brothers and said, Hey, 412 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.230 would you guys be praying for me, and I can just testify to what 413 00:31:34.309 --> 00:31:40.630 you're saying, Jenna. I can feel a difference. I can see momentum 414 00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:45.349 building and I can see things moving forward at a faster pace because I know 415 00:31:45.750 --> 00:31:48.619 that people are praying, they're appealing to heaven for me. So you guys 416 00:31:48.619 --> 00:31:52.579 that are out on the sidewalk, and I would say specifically for you who 417 00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:56.700 are brand new and you're thinking maybe you've never been out in the sidewalk or 418 00:31:56.740 --> 00:31:59.140 maybe you've only been out there for a couple of times. I want to 419 00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:01.650 encourage you to do what Jenna did. Reach out to some people. There 420 00:32:01.690 --> 00:32:06.170 are people in your life, believers, who can't be out there on the 421 00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:09.410 sidewalk for it whatever reason, but they can pray for you, and have 422 00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:15.319 them pray for you once a day. Or maybe you have seven different people 423 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.559 praying for you once a day every week. Have some might cover each day, 424 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.640 you know, or just the days that you're going to be out on 425 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.519 the sidewalk. Maybe you're committed to go out on the sidewalk every Friday. 426 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.670 Build a prayer team to be praying for you every Friday. Have a have 427 00:32:31.269 --> 00:32:35.710 have that air support, because that's kind of what it is like military terms, 428 00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:37.990 right. You've got the people that are on the ground and then you 429 00:32:37.029 --> 00:32:43.710 got the air support, and that is a powerful, powerful weapon against the 430 00:32:43.750 --> 00:32:46.900 enemy and against discouragement, but also, like you see, breakthrough. Like 431 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.940 yeah, you testified to Jenna. Yeah. Now let me ask you, 432 00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:57.059 because I don't want to leave the this point too quickly, because I know 433 00:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.089 I, like, like both of you, I think have, you know, 434 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:04.809 came to a realization, wowvious is not of me. I need per 435 00:33:04.890 --> 00:33:07.130 support. I would start as soon as a mom I'd be talking to a 436 00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:09.890 mom, or someone else on the sidewalk was talking to mom. I would 437 00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:15.880 start texting or putting a post out on facebook. Please, please pray for 438 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:23.279 us, and sometimes I would see a mom choose life, but sometimes they 439 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.589 still choose abortion. They still do does it, you know. So God 440 00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:38.470 is not genie in a bottle that that grants our wishes. His will is 441 00:33:38.549 --> 00:33:47.420 supreme. But I certainly have experienced dis spite feeling like like sometimes I am 442 00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:54.700 in our team is fighting the battle with spiritual tools and well and prayer support, 443 00:33:55.210 --> 00:34:00.809 we will still experience defeat. We will still see moms walk into that 444 00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:06.569 abortion center. We will still fight discouragement. At least I have. So 445 00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:10.880 I'm just wondering if to have you experienced that as well, and how have 446 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.039 you dealt with that if you have? HMM, yeah, there's definitely been 447 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.760 some defeat in this ministry, and I mean we all want to see fruit 448 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.550 from our labor, you know. We all want to see those lives saved 449 00:34:23.590 --> 00:34:27.550 and we want to see those amazing stories of how we've been able to walk 450 00:34:27.590 --> 00:34:31.510 alongside moms and mentor these families, but sometimes that's not always the case. 451 00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:37.670 And you know, I've had situations where I've counseled moms for the longest time, 452 00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:42.139 you know, outside the clinic orent and have continued texting them and praying 453 00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:49.300 for them and they still make that decision to disobey God. And something that 454 00:34:49.340 --> 00:34:52.619 you guys would say at training a lot that is really stuck with me is 455 00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:57.289 that the victory is in obedience and we just have to remember that. It's, 456 00:34:57.409 --> 00:35:00.010 you know, not those numbers, it's not the fruit of the Labor, 457 00:35:00.329 --> 00:35:05.409 while those are all very good things, but our victories in that obedience 458 00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:09.679 that we take. Yeah, and that helps you do that. Yes, 459 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.239 it does. Yeah, I haven't. That's that kind of goes back to 460 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.360 even the podcast episode we did about motivation, right, and our motivation for 461 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.389 ministry. That our motivation can't be the babies in the MOM's not my primary 462 00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:27.989 motivation. Certainly, were motivated by that, right, you were initially motivated 463 00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:32.070 by the fact that our world are culture is a culture of death, and 464 00:35:32.429 --> 00:35:37.820 all the students in that classroom were pro aborts, pro abortion, but except 465 00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.900 for you, right that was a motivation, but your primary motivation is the 466 00:35:43.059 --> 00:35:45.219 Lord, your love for him, what he's done in your life. We've 467 00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:50.289 got to keep that as our motivation because if the victory is in babies being 468 00:35:50.369 --> 00:35:53.130 saved and the victory is in the moms choose in life, we don't see 469 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.090 that every day and so we feel like we're not victorious every day. But 470 00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:01.090 if the victory is in obedience and if our motivation is a love for God 471 00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:07.519 first, then every day we show up, we're being obedient and we are 472 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.559 victorious. God's doing the stuff behind the scenes and God's doing the work. 473 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.159 If the all the work is up to us, then we're going to be 474 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.909 sadly disappointed. The work is up to the Lord. We're just called to 475 00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.230 be obedient, to be a vessel for him to work through. Yeah, 476 00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:30.190 yeah, so that prayer support and all the spiritual uplifting and support can certainly 477 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:35.980 help to change just our outlook on everything that we face, both the the 478 00:36:37.219 --> 00:36:40.780 wonderful fruit that we do see, but also of those times when we when 479 00:36:40.860 --> 00:36:45.460 we don't see food. So I don't want to leave it on a Downer 480 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:50.010 like that. I know you've seen some really amazing things happen there. There 481 00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:54.210 are rewards. They're definitely rewards that are really pretty awesome and in this ministry. 482 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:58.530 Can you talk about some of those? Yeah, well, I love 483 00:36:58.610 --> 00:37:01.119 the beginning of some of these verses in Isaiah Sixty one, because I kind 484 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:07.360 of goes through what we're doing on the sidewalks and it says the spirit of 485 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.119 the sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim 486 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.789 good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the broken 487 00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:20.789 hearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from the from darkness for 488 00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:23.630 the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor and the day of 489 00:37:23.710 --> 00:37:29.429 vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn and provide for those who 490 00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:34.260 grieve in Zion, to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, 491 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.019 the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead 492 00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:43.260 of a spirit of despair. They will be called Oaks of righteousness, a 493 00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.730 planting of the Lord for the display of his splendor. And I feel like 494 00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:52.170 the reward that I really received through, you know, US being taking action 495 00:37:52.329 --> 00:37:57.769 through this word, is just the joy. I there's just so much joy 496 00:37:57.889 --> 00:38:01.519 in this Ministry of being a part of God's work and there's a reward and 497 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.599 expectancy of hopefully seeing some of these families join us in the Kingdom one day 498 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.519 them. There's just there really is nothing that brings me more joy than doing 499 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.510 what God has called me to do. And you know, God doesn't need 500 00:38:16.630 --> 00:38:20.269 us. We often talk about how God doesn't need us and he doesn't have 501 00:38:20.389 --> 00:38:23.630 to have us, but he does choose to allow us to be a part 502 00:38:23.630 --> 00:38:29.820 of his work and that's a big blessing to me because I'm able to be 503 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:34.739 a part of that fruit. You know, here in Roanoke we've seen sixteen 504 00:38:34.900 --> 00:38:38.820 lives saved from abortion over this past year. When we first started, you 505 00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:42.329 know, I said it was slow and we weren't seeing any fruit. So 506 00:38:42.889 --> 00:38:45.889 now to get to the point to where there's sixteen babies that were scheduled to 507 00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:52.329 die that now have life and that is such a reward to that would let 508 00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:55.639 us be a part of that testimony. So yeah, it's just amazing to 509 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.880 witness the fruit of the Labor that he's allowed us to be a part of. 510 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.960 have any of those babies been born? Have you had the opportunity to 511 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.800 hold any of them. Yet there has been one born, one baby boy, 512 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.789 and he's a couple months old now, and we just threw a baby 513 00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:16.670 shower for Mama why, and she is do in January, so we're expecting 514 00:39:16.750 --> 00:39:22.190 her baby girl very soon. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it's it's 515 00:39:22.269 --> 00:39:24.739 the mercy of God that we get to see the fruit of our labor. 516 00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:30.820 Yes, it is encouraging, even though the victories in obedience. That's like, 517 00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:36.860 that's the fruit of obedience, seeing God do, who is his work, 518 00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.409 in the loves of these MOMS and saving babies. So part of your 519 00:39:39.409 --> 00:39:45.730 job has been getting churches behind you, convincing pastors that that they should come 520 00:39:45.849 --> 00:39:53.440 on board and and be more active in supporting frontline pro life ministry. Has 521 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.760 that been a challenge? Has that presented challenges for you, particularly in light 522 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.599 of the fact that you're young and and a woman? A lot of pastors, 523 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.079 most pastors, I assume that you're speaking with her, going to be 524 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.309 man. Tell us about that. How how do you develop courage to do 525 00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:16.030 that? Yeah, I mean there's definitely challenges there. I never thought that 526 00:40:16.349 --> 00:40:19.949 at age twenty one, as a girl, that I would be reaching out 527 00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:24.099 to pastors, you know, connecting with churches. So it's kind of bizarre 528 00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:28.420 that God has put me in that position because I never would have expected it. 529 00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.059 And there has been some challenges. You know, there's been churches that 530 00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:35.730 have told us, well, we don't want to be known as what we're 531 00:40:35.769 --> 00:40:38.010 against, we only want to be known as what we're for, which I 532 00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:42.289 understand. Let's be, you know, for these MOMS, let's be for 533 00:40:42.449 --> 00:40:45.690 these babies, but also Jesus was against sin, so it's okay to be 534 00:40:45.809 --> 00:40:52.039 against abortion. So I've had responses like that. But I've had an amazing 535 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.960 team that God has really raised up in here and Roanoke of close friends of 536 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.159 mine and members of the Church that have really come along and assist me and, 537 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.070 you know, raising contacting these churches, and I'm a young girl, 538 00:41:07.429 --> 00:41:10.550 so you know it's not appropriate for me to go meet with pastors by myself, 539 00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:15.269 but I've had this team come behind me and assist me and going to 540 00:41:15.389 --> 00:41:20.659 share the heart of love life and we've had an amazing response. We've had 541 00:41:20.739 --> 00:41:25.579 about eight churches that are partnered with us in roanoke that are praying with us 542 00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:31.260 and have adopted weeks and even further. I've gotten people from their churches connected 543 00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:37.489 through sidewalk counseling or life discipleship. People even interested in orphan care and, 544 00:41:38.369 --> 00:41:42.090 you know, people who have had abortions in their past who are able to 545 00:41:42.170 --> 00:41:45.809 receive healing and restoration, and then also those who are interested in leading those 546 00:41:45.849 --> 00:41:52.000 Bible Studies for these women. Yeah, wo how did you raise up the 547 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.519 teams? You said I appropriately God raised the teams, but you were used 548 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.710 by God to help raise those teams. So I know that that's a huge 549 00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:07.389 challenge for anyone in in any city and can be a really daunting task. 550 00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:10.309 So how did how did that come about? When? Well did you play 551 00:42:10.550 --> 00:42:16.780 in developing teams? Yeah, well, when I moved to Roanoke I was 552 00:42:17.500 --> 00:42:21.619 pretty much, you know, as me and my husband, Eastmand, and 553 00:42:22.139 --> 00:42:24.219 everyone I knew was in Georgia and I was like man, how am I 554 00:42:24.340 --> 00:42:30.130 going to rally the Church when I don't really even know anyone but Eastman? 555 00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:34.889 You know, his family way is here in roanoake and I do have, 556 00:42:35.289 --> 00:42:37.889 you know, some of my best friends that live here. They're the ones 557 00:42:37.889 --> 00:42:44.599 who introduced me to Easton actually, and Easton's family and my best friends that 558 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.039 live here have really been a vital part in this ministry and these are people 559 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.920 that I already had strong relationships with and, you know, through this passion 560 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.719 that God has given me, I feel like he's stirred it up in their 561 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.949 heart as well and they've been a vital part walking alongside of me and encouraging 562 00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:06.510 me, but they've also really kind of taken on this role of wanting to 563 00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.750 engage the church as well. So I feel like just through the passion that 564 00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:15.139 God gave me, he started stirring it up in other people, you know, 565 00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:19.900 as I took action. HMM. So you start, you started with 566 00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:23.460 what you already had, kind of and just and and God flamed fan that 567 00:43:23.619 --> 00:43:29.849 into flame and it expanded from there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, well, 568 00:43:29.929 --> 00:43:35.489 your passion for the Lord and desire to serve him in this capacity was 569 00:43:35.610 --> 00:43:40.010 contagious in that that got on other people, got into other people, and 570 00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:44.119 I believe it's going to continue to spread. Their believe your team's going to 571 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.960 continue to grow and and you're going to continue to get churches on board. 572 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480 This is kind of the way this thing happens. Is really it's got to 573 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.510 start with somebody. Again, going back to the analogy of David. After 574 00:43:57.590 --> 00:44:00.829 David lopped off Golias head. He had to be a cat, a list 575 00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:02.550 for this thing. That's when the children of Israel came out of their caves 576 00:44:02.869 --> 00:44:07.909 and started running after the Philistines, you know, to basically run them out 577 00:44:07.949 --> 00:44:10.219 of the land. It's got it. You got to have somebody that steps 578 00:44:10.219 --> 00:44:15.139 out and to see a young lady like yourself step out and really be a 579 00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:20.699 catalyst for what I believe is going to be that culture of love and life 580 00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:24.610 in Rowanoe, Virginia and beyond really taking root, it's pretty encouraging and I 581 00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:30.690 think it's it challenging and encouraging for anybody who's listening. If there's this kind 582 00:44:30.730 --> 00:44:32.409 of mentality, it's like, I'm just one person, what can I do? 583 00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:37.690 Well, here you've got Jenna sharing. She just one person. What 584 00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:39.599 can she do? All she can do is obey God and step out where 585 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.679 he's called her to and in God's going to do the work through her, 586 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.840 and he is, and he'll do the work through you. But you've got 587 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.079 to step out, you've got to step out in faith. Yeah, we 588 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.469 don't have a whole lot of time left, Jenna, but what, what 589 00:44:53.630 --> 00:45:00.949 advice or encouragement would you give to people who maybe are like minded to you 590 00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:04.670 and and feel like, like Daniel said, I'm just one person. I 591 00:45:04.789 --> 00:45:07.460 don't know what to do. What, what possible difference could I make? 592 00:45:08.659 --> 00:45:14.019 What can you say to them as a young person who not only started in 593 00:45:14.139 --> 00:45:20.260 this new ministry but in a completely unfamiliar, well somewhat unfamiliar, New City 594 00:45:20.739 --> 00:45:24.010 with really little support? Yeah, well, I'd like to, you know, 595 00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:29.849 talk a little bit about my inspiration and it really comes from, you 596 00:45:29.929 --> 00:45:31.769 know, youth in the Bible that were just like me. But you're not 597 00:45:31.849 --> 00:45:37.320 David ner. Daniels talking about David, and he was this young guy, 598 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.920 and we're currently facing this modern day Goliath. So we do absolutely have to 599 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:49.159 have that boldness and courage when facing this giant. But I'm inspired by the 600 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.949 youth in the Bible that have set an example of faith. You know, 601 00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.989 there's David, s Sir Joseph, Timothy, Mary, Daniel and like. 602 00:45:55.150 --> 00:46:00.630 The list goes on of these young people who took bold action in obedience to 603 00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:05.260 Christ. Like David was only seventeen when he took on Goliath. Esther she 604 00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.219 was around fourteen years old when she became queen. Mary gave birth to the 605 00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:13.699 Son of God at Age Sixteen as a virgin and she had to have boldness 606 00:46:13.739 --> 00:46:16.340 to face judgment. And Joseph, who was sold by his brothers, you 607 00:46:16.420 --> 00:46:21.889 know, as a slave, that aged seventeen, but he worked towards, 608 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:24.849 you know, everything that he did, and he prospered and eventually rose to 609 00:46:24.929 --> 00:46:29.730 second in command of Pharaoh. So you could see, like through each of 610 00:46:29.769 --> 00:46:32.880 their lives and their background, that God wasn't calling the equipped, he was 611 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.519 calling those were that were willing and obedient. So really, the advice that 612 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:45.000 I would give is you can start living a life of obedient and righteousness right 613 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.789 now, like you don't have to wait until you're an adult. If you're 614 00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:52.309 the youth. God calls the youth and encourages us. We look to the 615 00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:55.190 example of First Timothy Four undred and twelve. We're told to set an example 616 00:46:55.590 --> 00:47:00.150 and speech, conduct, love, faith and impurity. So we can set 617 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:05.460 that example through every task and every moment. You know, Colossians three through 618 00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:07.659 twenty three says, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, 619 00:47:07.659 --> 00:47:12.860 as working for the Lord and not for Human Masters. Or strinthians one 620 00:47:12.900 --> 00:47:15.889 thousand and thirty one. Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, 621 00:47:15.929 --> 00:47:20.449 do it all for the glory of God and some of the best advice that 622 00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:23.329 I've been given that I'd like to share, as well as to invest your 623 00:47:23.449 --> 00:47:28.570 time and things that last forever. And there's only two things that last forever, 624 00:47:28.889 --> 00:47:34.320 that's God's word and people. So my challenge would be start investing your 625 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.119 time in the lives around you by being a witness of the Gospel of Christ. 626 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.869 Man. It's wonderful you could do next next week's podcast, which is 627 00:47:45.230 --> 00:47:51.510 possible, about this very subject. Great, great, great advice and encouragement. 628 00:47:51.670 --> 00:47:54.590 Yeah, yeah, well, I think it would be good if you 629 00:47:54.670 --> 00:48:00.059 wouldn't mind, Jenna, just kind of wrapping up this podcast for you, 630 00:48:00.219 --> 00:48:04.860 just to pray real quick for those who, young or old, that need 631 00:48:05.059 --> 00:48:08.780 boldness and that need to step out in faith and know that they need to 632 00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:13.210 step out in faith, and so we just lift them up in prayer. 633 00:48:13.250 --> 00:48:16.570 Yeah, absolutely, let's pray. Father, we just thank you so much 634 00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:21.130 for what you're doing in our lives. God, I look back at the 635 00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.530 past few years of my life and I see the intricate plan that you've set 636 00:48:23.809 --> 00:48:28.639 forth from me. You know, back in college, when I had no 637 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.000 idea what your plan was and I had my own route. You know, 638 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.599 I was coming into dental hygiene and you had different plans. Lord, you 639 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.079 set me apart and you called me to this ministry. And Lord, I 640 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.429 know that there's other youth that are just like me, that have passions and 641 00:48:45.590 --> 00:48:49.469 that have a desire to serve you in every way that they can, Lord, 642 00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.710 so I pray that you would just raise up those labors of youth. 643 00:48:52.110 --> 00:48:54.550 Lord, we know that you can use the youth, and I pray that 644 00:48:54.590 --> 00:49:00.820 you would help us to set an example. You know, portion is affecting 645 00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:05.539 our lives. This is our generation and we have a responsibility, that obligation, 646 00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:07.460 to do something about it. So I pray that you would raise up 647 00:49:07.460 --> 00:49:10.849 the youth. Lord, help us to be full of boldness and full of 648 00:49:12.130 --> 00:49:15.170 courage so that we can stand in the gap for these unborn children. Lord, 649 00:49:15.489 --> 00:49:19.409 help us to be a witness. We love you in Jesus name. 650 00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.599 Amen. Hey Man, Amen. Thank you, Jenna. Thank you, 651 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.960 guys, and that was that was a blessing, that was an encouragement. 652 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.119 Yes, and we hope that you guys listening aren't courage where hope, we 653 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:37.440 hope that you're challenged is well, to step out in faith and just to 654 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.030 know that God is stepping out with you. So if this podcast was a 655 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:45.070 blessing to you, please leave us a review and again reach out if you 656 00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:49.429 have any suggestions for future episodes that we can cover. That would be a 657 00:49:49.469 --> 00:49:52.019 blessing and encouragement to you. You can reach me at Danuel at Love Life 658 00:49:52.099 --> 00:49:55.820 Dot Org. You can reach Vicki at Vicki I love life dot Org. 659 00:49:57.179 --> 00:50:00.340 And if you want to reach out and encourage Jenna or maybe even support the 660 00:50:00.420 --> 00:50:04.739 ministry there in Rowanoke, if you're close to Rowan Oken you want to support 661 00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.050 a local ministry that's having impact, you can reach out to her, Jenna 662 00:50:08.289 --> 00:50:12.090 at Love Life Dot Org, and I'm sure she can send along a link 663 00:50:12.530 --> 00:50:15.929 if you want to support her front financially or support her support her, sorry, 664 00:50:16.050 --> 00:50:19.730 in prayer. I'm sure that would be a blessing to her as well. 665 00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:22.920 That's Jenna with one end. Yeah, just so that you know, 666 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.239 I always have spelled it incorrectly. It's one end, KNA. Yeah, 667 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.079 that's right. So if feel free to reach out and until next time, 668 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:45.070 God bless, God bless. Give me our love for love, give me 669 00:50:45.829 --> 00:50:58.059 our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's 670 00:50:58.219 --> 00:51:00.820 too precious in some you