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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me,
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Lord, I am yours, I
am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel
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Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast
designed to equip, encourage and challenge you
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in pro life ministry and always were
a focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned.
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I felt show passish touch your use
me, Lord. Here everyone,
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welcome to the Gospel centered pro life
podcast. I'm here with Daniel Parks.
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Daniel is in a new place.
He's in the land of Golden Opportunity,
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right, you're in California, yeah, or the land of fruits and nuts.
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They well, that too. And
and I'm in North Carolina. So
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we are. We're recording remotely from
each other, yes, and but we
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we do intend to continue with our
podcast. Daniel will be out there for
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what three? Three months at this
point, is what the remberk is.
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Okay. Yeah, and and you
are out there working with our national missionaries.
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And, yeah, just California.
And encourage those who are out here
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who are love life missionaries. They're
doing the work. I want to support
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them and encourage them. Some of
these people, all of these people,
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are brand new to this ministry and
there's a lot of work to be done
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here. It just right. Guys, know, my voice is is terrible.
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I'm dealing with some allergy stuff.
Yeah, and I'd hope coming out
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to California would change that, but
apparently not. Seems like it. Yeah,
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a little worse. Yeah, my
God's graceful make it through this and
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we really feel like these podcasts are
important. We get a lot of feedback
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from people, from our missionaries.
They're encouraged. We touch on subjects that
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seem to be so timely. Like
we are podcast about what to do when
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an ambulance shows up and I get
an email like the next day from one
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of our one of the local volunteers
here in Riverside. Right, like an
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ambulance just showed up yesterday and you
know, what you've shared was really helpful.
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Also, I got an email from
somebody, I think in Florida,
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who had the same thing around the
same time. And Yeah, just actually
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had an interaction with a counselor or
a missionary is dealing with a woman that's
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going through miscarriage and we just put
out that last yeah, exactly. That
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happened to me also this past week. Someone that one of the missionaries said
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she was going through that and I
was able to point them to that podcast.
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So it is amazing how God kind
of nudges us to to do a
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subject and and sometimes you all not
just and that's how we decide what to
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what to do a podcast about.
That's the way it's actually okay, struggling
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through with my voice and you get
struggling through to listen to my voice,
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as terrible as it sounds. It's
worth it's worth it to us. Yeah,
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and even though through many dangerous toils
and snares we record the PODCAST,
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it's worth it. So right,
yeah, you guys that are listening,
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you're worth it. In the Gospel
going forth is worth it and babies being
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saved, mom's lobs be an impact, impacted. It's worth it, guys.
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So would encourage you and we hope
this blessing, or this episode will
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be a blessing to you guys.
Right, right. And this episode,
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like so many of them, came
about because someone mentioned it mentioned a situation
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where a service provider had come up
to the abortion center and they were curious
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about all. What do you do? What do you say? And we're
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always so careful to train our volunteers
that keep your focus your ministry is the
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unborn child and that that Mama,
because she has a life or death decision
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to make and one way or another, by the end of the day,
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that child see the going to be
alive or dead based on that mother's decision.
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So that's our ministry focus, but
that doesn't mean that we ignore that
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are in the vicinity or even something
that you would think maybe we would be
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not as useful to interact with,
such as the service providers, and by
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that I don't mean the abortion workers, but you know, the door people
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or the the person devel delivering Fedex, or are quite often the uber drivers,
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which we see frequently, Uber and
tax taxi drivers. So we see
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them all the time. And the
way that that we wanted to talk about
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this podcast is telling some stories.
Stories are so powerful and we've developed just
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a smattering of these are true stories
of things that have happened mostly within the
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past year, some of them very
recently. One of them happened just just
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last week or the week before,
of whereas service provider and our interactions with
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them led to a baby being saved, and that is not infrequent, and
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that that's kind of the Lord does
in these situations. Yeah, yeah,
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so the the you know, the
very first point is, of course they
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focused on on your mission field.
If you see a mom going in,
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she's she is your focus. Now, if it's in Uber or a taxi
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driver coming in, they're often transporting
a mom. So your interaction with them
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is going to be heard by the
mother and that is still keeping your ministry
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focus. But be careful about being
so sidetracked like think. You know,
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I got to talk to every service
person that comes in that maybe you're missing
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MOMS. That would not be appropriate. Yeah, but the one that happened
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recently, I was not a part
of this story. I was actually in
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the office when the councilor came in
and told me about this story. But
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a taxi driver with a Hispanic couple
in the back seat was driving slowly down
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the street. The driver stopped as
a taxi driver and he stopped. I
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think was a he, and the
conclor that that he stopped for was actually
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one of our brand new councilors and
she is really only on the sidewalk a
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few weeks and I'm sure she didn't
feel like she knew what to say.
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I remember what it was like when
I was brand new like that. But
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the first thing she said, and
I think you'll notice this trend in all
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of the stories, is did you
know that this is an abortion center?
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Yeah, yeah, that's something we
had to keep in mind because these uber
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drivers quite often, like probably ninety
nine point nine percent of the time,
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have no clue. They're just they
gotta message on their phone. I don't
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know exactly how Uber Works, except
for it's an APP and all of that,
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and they get anifications and I want
to be picked up and then they
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want to be picked up here and
they want to be taken there. It
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doesn't tell them they want to be
taken to the abortion clinic, you know
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right, and and it doesn't say
probably not going to share that information either,
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you know, when she gets into
the Uber. That's right, that's
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right. If I they sometimes do
tell me they know they're at a clinic,
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that they're coming to a preferred woman's
health center, but that hardly says
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abortion anywhere on it. And but
they are, I would say, most
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of the time, shocked. Most
of the time they are shocked. No,
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I didn't know that. So that
was the first thing that this just
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very intuitive counselor she did the exact
right thing, asked the exact correct first
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question. Did you know this is
an abortion center? Yeah, and the
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driver said he did not, and
he instantly glanced in his rearview mirror at
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the Hispanic couple. Now they did
not speak any English, from what I
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understand, and he was the uber
driver because he was also Hispanic. He
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spoke Spanish, and so a lot
of what transpired we don't know what he
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said because he's speaking in Spanish to
the couple, but he's clearly distraught as
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as he looks in the rearview mirror
and and the the couple in the back
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kind of squirm and he asks them
in Spanish if they knew that they were
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going to an abortion center. And
my guess is what transpired was that yes,
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obviously they knew, and there was
an argument that that ensues between the
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taxi driver and the couple in the
back seat and are again, are very
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smart. Counselor handed them the literature
and also, I believe, got Spanish
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literature into their hands to the taxi
driver, who instantly gave it to the
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couple and and she explains to the
taxi driver, who is bilingual, he
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was able to speak English. She
explained, well, this is an abortion
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center. And do you believe in
God? The number to question that,
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I think, would become on the
tails of that first question. Yeah,
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absolutely. Yeah, and it turns
out he did. And as soon as
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someone says yes, you the doors
wide open for you to say, well,
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you're you know, you're fair.
Is being paid in part by by
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someone or it's being paid by someone
who is here to kill their baby.
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And and you know, when you
take business that brings you into a place
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where babies are being murdered, then
you're complicit. And I don't know if
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she said exactly those words again,
I wasn't there, but something along those
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lines, saying you don't want to
be pulling into this place with that.
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You know, I think we we
have to be careful not to come across
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as like, you know, we're
condemning them, we're kind of lumping them
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in with the mom that's they're to
kill her baby or with the abortion clinic.
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And Right, they're not working for
the abortion clinic. Yeah, so
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I think there's a there's a balance
there. Again, these people don't know
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that they're coming. They're bringing someone
to an abortion clinic. Yeah, but
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the fact is they are bringing someone
to an abortion clinic, right. I
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mean, you can think of a
few analogies. You know, if you're
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in Nazi Germany and somebody's telling you
to drive a truck and you don't realize
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you got Jews in the back of
it and you're taking them to, you
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know, Nazi death camp, you
don't know, you don't know what you
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don't know and you're not guilty until
you find out. Right, and you
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now you realize halfway down the road
there's some Jews in the back and,
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yeah, you've got a choice to
make. You're going to keep driving the
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truck to the destination or are you
going to stop and say I'm not going
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to be a part of this?
That's right. You know, I think
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that's that's a good analogy maybe for
this scenario. But again we have to
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be careful. Like again, these
people don't know, so we're not going
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to condemn them for something they just
don't know, but we are going to
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inform them so that they do know. And then again they've got a choice
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to making that moment. Yeah,
and the council went on to share how
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we were going to be able to
help the couple in the backseat and she
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asked them to the taxi driver to
translate, which he did. So she
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listed the the resources, she talked
about God, she talked about the development
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of the baby, and the driver
said, I'm not going to I'm not
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going to drive them in there.
He refused. He said I will not,
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I won't do it. Now,
not all of them do that.
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Most of them don't do that,
to tell you the truth, but this
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man took stand. He was not
and the the couple in the back kind
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of threw up their hands and said
fine, take us back to the hotel
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and we'll call you all to find
out how you can help us. So
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it's grudging, apparently a little bit
angry, but but they did. They
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the driver took them back to the
hotel. He left. I don't know
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if they ever called our Spanish translator
or not, but for sure that day
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that baby's life was reprieved because of
the courageous stand of the taxi driver.
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And he wouldn't make that stand alone. He wouldn't have made it if he
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had read their picture, though,
just so people understand, I like this
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is happening within like fifty feet of
the abortion clinic. Right these people could
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have gotten out of the car and
walked into the abortion clinic. They could
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have you know, they were captive
in the car. It's not like,
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you know, they were miles away
from the abortion clinic. They could have
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just gotten out. And I've seen
that happen before. I've seen taxi drivers
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come. They refused to pull into
the abortion clinic because, you know,
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they've stopped and when they found out
they were not going to be complicit in
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this, in this whole thing,
they can't do anything. They can't lock
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the doors and drive the people back
to their you know where they picked them
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up at. So you know,
I've seen people get out of the Uber
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or get out of the taxi and
just walk into the abortion clinic. You
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know, at that point, I
think you know the Uber driver, the
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taxi driver, has done all that
they can do in this situation. It
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seems to me, as we say, these people are they're praying for a
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sign. It seems to me these
people took their the interaction with the taxi
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driver, or it was an uber
driver. Was An uber driver, this
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one was a taxi driver. I'm
pretty sure they sort of took that interaction
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as a sign from the Lord that's
right because again, if they really wanted
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to have the abortion, they could
have gotten out of the taxi and went
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into the abortion clinic. They could
have, and I think it illustrates another
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really important point that when we take
a stand for righteousness, people notice and
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it can sometimes breathe courage into hearts
that are wafering. Yeah, and I
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think that is part of what happened
this this taxi driver was adamant. He
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wasn't going to drive in there.
What they were about to do was wrong
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and and he was not going to
back down from from what he knew was
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was right. So I think that's
an encouragement for all of us that we
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need to stand firm on what we
know is true and right and what what
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God would have us do. Yes
here, speaking of encouragement. Yeah,
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the guy was a hero, absolute
yeah, speaking of the word encouragement,
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you guys have heard me in the
past talk about this. You know,
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to encourage someone is to put courage
into them, and that's what we're doing
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in these situations. Like we're speaking
to these the service people, these uber
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drivers especially, like Uber Drivers,
taxi drivers, and we're speaking courage into
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them and saying you can do this, you can take a stand for life,
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you can speak to them, you
can hand them this literature, because
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you know, often times when they
do stop, it's not that they're rolling
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down the back window for us to
talk to the person they have in the
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back right, they're rolling down their
window. So we've really, you know,
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we've really got to speak to them
and interact with them and encourage them,
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put courage into them that you can
speak to the people that you have
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in the back of your car,
you can give them this literature. So
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please, please do that. And
so when we're trying to put courage into
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them. Yeah, exactly. So
the the second situation was similar. Was
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a Newberg driver this time, but, and I think it's a really important
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little story to tell, because he
had already dropped the person off. Now
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when he stopped for me, I
think again, I don't it might have
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been a woman. I think it
was a man, but he dropped off
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a worker and the worker went in
and I called out to the worker.
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The worker went in and the tendency, my tendency even, is get back
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to my mission and ignore the person
coming out. He's already dropped the worker.
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What good is it going to do
to. He's just an uber driver.
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Yeah, you know, he may
never come here again, but I
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didn't that that time. I didn't. Sometimes I have. That time I
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didn't. He he pulled over,
stopped for me and I started off with
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the same thing. Did you know
this is an abortion center? And I
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think he might have known. I
think he had dropped this worker of at
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other times, and I talked about
what happens in an abortion center and then
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I handed him the information and I
said, listen, you may know someone
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that is considering an abortion, or
maybe you don't even know right now,
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but maybe if you hang onto this, I guarantee you someone's going to happen
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along in your life that is in
an unplanned pregnancy considering an abortion, and
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I want you to know we help
them. We help them with resources and
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no matter what situation they face,
and with a mentorship program we even do
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baby showers that provide two full years
of what that child will need. I
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just would encourage you to take this
information and if you know someone that's struggling,
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would you tell her will help them? That's my name and and my
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number on the back. So he
took the information and said thank you and
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left. And that afternoon I was
home from the abortion center and I got
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a call from a woman who said
it is this Vickie. Yes, well,
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and Uber driver is a friend of
mine and he just gave me a
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pamphlet that he got from you today
and he said that you all help women
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who are struggling and unplanned pregnancies and
thinking about abortion. And that's my story.
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D can You tell me what you
could do, how you could help?
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And so I did and one thing
led to another. I shared the
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Gospel. She had fallen away from
God, but she and she knew it.
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And and like so many women,
when she made the decision to abort,
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it felt like God had abandoned her
when in reality, of course she
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had abandoned God. But she be
committed her life to the Lord. She
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said she was not going to abort. She wanted the mentor and and so,
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you know, praise God for that
amazing result of the obedience of that
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Uber driver. But the story didn't
end there. She got involved with the
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mentor. She found out just how
much help the mentorship program is and her
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cousin it was also in an unplanned
pregnancy. She told her cousin about us,
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gave the cousin the pamphlet. The
cousin contacted me and it was the
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same ending. She she also committed
her life to the Lord. She wanted
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to mentor. She got a mentor, and so two babies and to eternal
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lives were saved by handing and Uber
driver leaving after dropping someone at the abortion
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center, but by handing him a
pamphlet and telling them about the help that
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was available. Well, it's amazing. Yeah, you know, again a
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story that I wouldn't have known,
which is why we do these podcast I
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would think, why bother? Why
bother giving giving our information to someone who's
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already dropped the woman. It wasn't
even a mom to there to abort it.
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It was a marker. Here's what
I'll say. Win and doubt.
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Hand it out. Yeah, and
out. Hand out a piece of literature.
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Now we don't have just be flinging
literature all over the place. You
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know, everybody that walks Bo gets
literature if you're on like a busy road
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or something like that. But when
in doubt, hand it out. If
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there's an uber driver that stops to
take it, get literature into their hands.
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Maybe they did drop somebody off and
they didn't know it. Maybe we
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didn't, they weren't able to stop
or for whatever reason they went in still
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didn't realize it was an abortion clinic. They come out. I've had that
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situation happened before. I'll still give
them a piece of literature. I'll try
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to encourage them. Can you text
that woman and get her to come out
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and talk to us? You know, I'll try to encourage me do that.
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Yeah, nothing else. I'll say, hang on to this literature,
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keep it in your car in case
this happens again. You'll know where you're
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coming next time, right, and
you can hand them this literature. So,
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yeah, that literature is powerful.
It seems that that we plant that
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keep on bringing an increase in yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's the same uber
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driver that will end up picking them
up. Sometimes they've said come back in
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an hour or something. Yeah,
that so, and you never know,
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and then you've got a double chance
to hopefully reach reach that woman. So
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the next story is a little bit
different, again, one that I think
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the Holy Spirit prompted us to act, but that I probably wouldn't, under
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normal circumstances, have said anything to
these workers. As a paving company,
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it was a paving company truck pulls
in. There are a lot of potholes
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in in the abortion center parking lot, but that didn't really register to me
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at first. I thought it was
a dad. We do see businesses pull
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in in their business trucks pull in
with as the dad sometimes meeting the mom,
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but in this case so his the
the name of the paving company is
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on the side and and as he's
pulling in, I said our did you
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know this is an abortion center that
you're pulling into? And he said no,
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and he looked visibly shaken. He
did not and I went into,
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you know, a very similar thing
as what I've already told you that I
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say, where I described what happens
there, and then I said are are
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you a believer? And he said
yes, and I said well, what
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would what would God have you do? Meanwhile the security people are going nuts.
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You know, I've stopped up paved, you know, a rot paved
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paver trunk driver, and they're screaming
at me just that he's here to do
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a job, idiot, just leave
them alone. Let him drive in.
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And I never listened to them.
I there were no other cars it.
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You know, they they're not the
cops and I wasn't doing anything. I
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wasn't blocking anyone. The paver wasn't
blocking any car from coming in or out.
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They're just mad that I'm stopping this
person who, they said, he's
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he's got a contract, he's he's
about to do business with this spe just
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let the guy do his job.
They're swearing at me, screaming at me,
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and I hand him our information and
and and said really, think about
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what God would have you do.
And they drive in and so I think
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okay, and I go. I
go back. I'm ready to start calling
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out, you know, to the
MOMS. And they did aktern in the
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parking lot and pulled right out and
as they're driving out, he held up
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the literature and pointed to the sky, you know, to God, and
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left. They didn't come back.
The the paving company left. So we're
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all just cheering. Security is swearing. But that's not the end of that
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story either. That Saturday and Daniel, I think you were the one that
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had this interaction, or one of
the Saturday people. I heard about it
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again. I was I was there, but I wasn't right at the driveway
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where another paving truck pulled them.
So that Saturday, right. Was it
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you? You know, the one
that was there? Yeah, yeah,
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so same thing. They pull in. It sounds like it was the exact
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same scenary. Hey, Hey,
man, did you know this is an
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abortion center? And I don't know
if they did or not, but in
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a glue and they had no clue
and they they pull in and then did
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a you turn and left. Yeah, and as they were leaving they said
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God, bless you guys for what
you're doing. took all so, I
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mean that story is so great to
me because to paving truck companies that chose
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to glorify God rather than be paid
their salary by the blood of babies,
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that was just such an encouragement.
Yeah, to me. Shortly thereafter was
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the first four day wee can that
I think I've ever known the abortion center
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to have, and it maybe it
was on the fourth of July weekend.
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So normally they take the fourth off, but if it falls on, you
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know, a Friday or Saturday,
but that's it. Maybe a second day.
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But it was the a full four
day week and which I had never
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seen. And the parking lot was
paved and in that period of time,
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so a pavery, a paving company
showed up about, apparently the abortion center
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Wi stoup that hey, when there's
a Christian witness out there, even the
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workers are affected by by the choice
to follow God, and we're going to
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have to do this under cover of
night and cover up some when they're not
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there. I want to reiterate the
point I made earlier, is that,
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you know, these people quite likely
don't know that it's an abortion clinic and
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we got to be careful the way
that we come across. We don't want
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to come across as like we're just
we're condemning them, we're lumping them in
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with the abortionist or the abortion clinic. In the sense we want to inform
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them. You know, we want
to expose Effesians five eleven right. Have
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no fellowship with him, proof for
works of darkness, but rather expose them.
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And really we're exposing these people,
the service people, whoever they might
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be, to the reality that's going
on inside of that building and before God,
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they have to make a choice.
Now I'll share a story real quick,
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if my voice will allow, and
this is man I don't know,
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probably ten years or more ago I
was out there on a Saturday. This
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is when I was volunteering on the
sidewalk at that time and I noticed that
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people started flooding out of the building, out of the abortion clinic on the
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troube and I'm like, okay,
something's going on here, something pretty significant
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in this is this is great,
because people are getting in their cars and
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they're leaving and and all of that. Come to find out, a squirrel
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had somehow got on the transformer or
something like that and kind of made the
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two contacts connect and Squirrel got fried. But theyd you out. Yeah,
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so out at the abortion clinic and
so they couldn't do abortions. Last Saturday
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at that time, sometimes there would
be fifty S S, sometimes seventy people
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there for an abortion. It was
a slaughter house, let me tell yeah.
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And there'd be people parking out on
the streets and because the parking lot
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was so full there for an abortion. So I'm rejoicing. It was being
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a small team goes out there.
Were rejoicing that these babies are not going
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to die. And then the the
power company truck pulls in, or pulling
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in to restore power. The guys
stopped and talked with me and I beg
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this guy and he didn't know it
was an abortion clinic, but I beg
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this man please, this is an
abortion clinic. If you restore their power,
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they're going to begin killing babies again. This guy now, and I
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was as gracious as I could possibly
be. I'm not accusing him of anything
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he didn't know, but I did
bleed with him and this guy was not
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happy. So just be prepared that
some people are not going to be happy.
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He's like, I'm just doing my
job, which I'm like, I
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understand. Yeah, man, yeah, I would hate to be in that
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situation and we really have to understand
from their perspective, the situation that they're
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in. They do have a job
to do, I can get that,
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but at the end of the day, if that job is going to be
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restoring the power to a place that
that murders children, they've really got it
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before God make a decision and I
believe, the right thing. I mean
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I think anyone looking at this scenario
the right thing. This guy will saying,
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well, somebody's got to restore the
power to this place. I'm like,
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yeah, of course somebody has to, but it ain't got to be
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you. Right, let somebody else
do it. If you trust in the
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Lord Trust in him. And again, I'm trying to put myself in that
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scenario. I would hate to be
in that situation. Okay, you lose
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your job, you know, certainly, yeah, but again, babies are
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dying, and so I think we
have to balance. We have to be
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gracious about this, right, we
have to. We have to not just
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kind of disconnect ourselves from the situation. You have to realize that we could
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be in that same situation and you
know, maybe some of you guys that
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are volunteer on the sidewalk, maybe
you're an uber driver, some people do
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that on the side, you might
be put in this situation. To imagine
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this is going to be an easy
decision when your life, in your livelihood,
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depends on it is is likely not
true for any of these people.
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That's their only livelihood. So we
have to we have to meet them with
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that, with that in mind,
and we have to we have to address
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them with humility. But again,
at the end of the day, inside
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of that building they are killing children, Bab yeah, in these service people
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can can do something to affect that
in some way. So, yeah,
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we're put that out there. Yeah, that's a good story. I've never
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heard that one there was one that
happened recently, well, I guess about
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a year ago in New York City, and again it was only related to
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me. So I'm not sure if
I have this story totally correctly, but
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it's similar to what you just said. It was an uber driver who had
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become a new believer and he was
going to church with one of our missionaries
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and he happened to be delivering food. Maybe I maybe he was a door
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driver, but he was. He
was a door driver, and so he
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was delivering food net actually not at
the planned parenthood in New York City,
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but nearby, and he saw all
those missionaries on the sidewalk and pulled over.
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He said Hey, what's happening here, and they explained what was happening
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here and he he delivered the food
and then he went to one of the
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MOMS and he's a new believer.
He was on fire for the Lord with
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the zeal, all the zeal of
you know remember when you were a new
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believer, and he talked her out
of them killing the baby and that baby
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was saved because the door driver decided
he was going to find out what was
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going on. The missionaries were more
than happy to tell him what was going
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on. The baby was saved and
he was so moved by what God had
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done that he now volunteers with them. He started volunteering with them in a
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apparently he's still with them. He's
still volunteering and very effective. So again,
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you never know, this might be
your future volunteer pool. But the
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people that pull in. So one
of my favorite stories, I think it's
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our last story, was an interpreter, and this was it poignant in the
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same way as you were illustrating,
Daniel, as you were saying be gracious.
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For some of these people this is
really it is their livelihood and this,
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this paycheck means could mean the difference
between the feed and their family or
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not, and and to try and
be cognizant of that. I tend to
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forget that because my focus is more
on the baby, but I think it
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is such an important thing to remember. But in this case, this interpreter
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came, she was dropped by her
husband and her. They were both you
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could tell as as the husband dropped
her, he hugged her, he kissed
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her, you could tell there was
anguish in in this couple and I thought
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she was a mom coming to a
board and so started calling out in that
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that way, and she said none, no, no, she she doesn't
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believe an abortion. I said,
well, what are you doing here then?
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And and she said, well,
I've been I work as an interpreter
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and I've been called to interpret for
a mom who doesn't speak English who's here
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to kill her baby. And I
begged her, don't, don't, don't.
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If you don't interpret that baby,
they the mom won't be able to
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go through with it because she won't
be able to understand and just drive away.
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And she had a discussion with the
husband but said look, I I'm
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sorry, I this is it.
My husband can't work, he's disabled.
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This is my job. I can't
risk losing this job or getting a bad
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right up or whatever. And and
so I said look at at least can
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you try and sneak her the literature? Here's what we do. I explained
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to her what we do and and
told her about because the information was not
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in this woman's language. It was
an unusual language and I won't tell you
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because I don't want to get this
interpreter in trouble. But Um, she
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did take it. She hit it
under her shirt, as we recommend it,
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and and she went in and she
was in there a good couple of
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hours. So we're of course sad. We thought she probably did her best.
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And then we see her coming out
and she came right over to us
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and she said the mom is coming
out and I said did she kill her
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baby? and Said No. During
the whole time that the interpreter was interpreting,
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she was not interpreting what the abortion
center was telling her to interpret.
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She knew none of them understood what
she was saying and she was telling the
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woman about us, about everything we
could do, about God, about that
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baby, the humanity of that baby
and that she should never kill her child.
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And the she said the woman's coming
out and I want to interpret for
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you all for free on the mobile
ultrasound unit. So the woman did come
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out. She came right over to
us. The interpreter brought her on with
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me and whoever else, the nurse
and all onto the mobile ultrasound unit.
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The woman chose life. was so
grateful she had. She was, you
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know, in the country, didn't
know anyone. I mean I knew you,
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I got it. I understood the
fear that had overwhelmed this woman.
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But with all the things that we
offered her that. I believe that might
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have been before the days of the
mentorship program and love life, but Sheryl
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Chandler of truth and mercy pro life
ministries definitely offered her a baby shower.
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I called Sheryl from the RV and
Sheryl said she would love to do the
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baby shower for this this young couple, and we did. It was,
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I remember still that baby shower because
they were so poor but they had this
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lavish meal prepared. I knew they
couldn't have afforded it, but it was
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like just an amazing meal, which
never happens. I mean we usually take
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them out to to the meal,
but they were so grateful they had they
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and that that little boy is now, I think, six and every few
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months I get a picture in with
with this woman in her broken English,
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thanking us for having been there along
with it's a group email to me,
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Ryl and the interpreter, and she
has remained friends with that interpreter, as
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have we, and and you know, years and years later she is still
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still thanking us and saying how this
young, young boy is just the the
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light of her of her life.
Yeah, so you know, use the
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interpreters the yeah, the bottom line, center doesn't know. Yeah, with
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with all of these people, whatever
capacity they're they're a God. Can Use
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anything. God can use anything.
We don't want to be distracted, like
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you started out, we don't want
to let these people be our focus.
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Right, the MOM's going in and
our is our focus. But kind of
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like that analogy that we laid out
that you know, we're like a lawyer
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on behalf of that baby. Right, we're pleading that baby's case proverbs thirty
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one, verses eight and nine.
We're making a case for those who are
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unjustly scheduled to die and we're appealing
to the judge, which is the mother.
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But we're also bringing witnesses, right, and sometimes as witnesses are the
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DADS, some times they're the new
friend that brought her friend there for an
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abortion. Sometimes they're the UBER driver, sometimes they're the door driver, sometimes
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they're, you know, these other
service people that are there unknowingly or whatever,
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and sometimes they can be called it
with the analogy, kind of in
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line with the analogy, as witnesses, this baby does not deserve death,
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but deserves to live. And in
this situation with the interpreter, she was
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certainly a witness in that baby's case. That, yeah, baby deserves to
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live and praise God for just the
fruit that was born out of that situation.
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Really and that was a story that
we were not able to share for
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years because we didn't you know,
it's so far removed now they'd never be
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able to figure out who it was
if they even wanted to at this point.
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But for years we were not able
to share that story, which is
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true of so many of these miraculous
stories. We don't share them on purpose.
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We don't want to get especially these
service workers in trouble when they have
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worked so hard to to fight for
that child's life. So it's such a
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delight to be able to tell that
story a little bit because it is one
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of the most miraculous things that I
have seen happen out there. This is
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a woman who knew she had to
go in, but she was still not
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going to deny her God. Yeah, and and and fought for that baby's
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life successfully. Yeah, yeah,
want you read that scripture that you have
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kind of at the end of this
article that you wrote. Like you guys
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know, Vicky wrote an article that's
come of framework for this a podcast episode.
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Read that scripture, maybe expounded on
a little bit and then we'll yeah
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thing up. Yeah, so it's
is AIAH forty one versus ten through thirteen.
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And I will tell you what stops
me, and maybe it's what stops
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a lot of us, from speaking
to the workers, the service people that
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are coming in, is fear.
Yeah, I'm afraid. I'm afraid they're
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gonna they're going to be mad.
It is their job and I do feel
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some you know, there's some kind
of at some angst about that. Should
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should I really be stopping someone who
is putting food on the table? I
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mean, they're not doing the abortion
there and anyway, so they're I don't
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want to talk often times to these
service workers and I think in the point
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of this podcast is to say don't
ever let fear stop you from doing what
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God has called you to do,
and I think quite often he has called
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us to speak to those service workers. So that verst is a a forty
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one verse ten to thirteen. Do
not fear, for I am with you.
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Do not anxiously look about you,
for I am your God. I
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will strengthen you, surely I will
help you, surely I will uphold you
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with my righteous right hand behold all
those who are angered at you will be,
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will be shamed and dishonored. I
can't help but think of those security
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men screaming and swearingness. Those who
contend with you will not be as nothing.
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will be as nothing and will perish. You will seek those who quarrel
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with you, but will not find
that. Those who war with you will
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be as nothing and nonexistent for I
and the Lord, your God, who
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uphold you with your right, with
my righteous right hand, who says to
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you, do not fear, I
will help you. And bottom line,
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he always does. He always helps
us. It may not be the way
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you expect. Don't don't get me
wrong. Babies will still die, service
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workers will still drive in, but
when you take a bold step for God,
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invariably miracles happen. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, guys. I mean
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all through the Scripture, be bold
and courageous. You guys. The Bible
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says the righteous are as bold as
a lion. You guys, are servant
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on the sidewalk. I believe you're
the righteous that are as bold as a
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lion. Not a righteousness that you've
come up with yourself. It's a righteousness
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that comes through Jesus Christ, but
your obedience is stepping into righteousness and being
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a righteous person. And listen,
you guys can be as bold as a
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lion. We don't need to be
timid, we don't need to feel like
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we're inconveniencing people. Listen, remember
babies are dying and God has called you
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to this mission. So be bold, speak to these service people. Do
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it graciously. A bold, gracious
convers conversation with them can go a long
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way. And and God's going to
use you, guys. God is using
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you guys. So with that we're
going to wrap this episode up. As
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always, we encourage you guys to
reach out to us. You can reach
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out to me, Danielt Love Life
Dot Org. You can reach out to
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her, Vicky, at Love Life
Dot Org. Again, apologize for my
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voice. I got some allergy stuff
going on, but hopefully this episode was
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a blessing to you and we look
forward to doing future episodes for you guys.
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Are reach out. Let us know. What are some subjects we can
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cover. But until next time,
God bless get that show. Give me
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our love for love, give me
our loft for gratitude. I know it
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will cost me my life. No, sins too precious, and some you