Sept. 16, 2021
Reaching Uber Drivers at the Abortion Centers

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On a regular basis we see Uber drivers and other service people coming to the abortion centers. They come for various reasons and the Lord can use them to save lives. In this episode we share some impactful stories of how God can use interactions wit...
On a regular basis we see Uber drivers and other service people coming to the abortion centers. They come for various reasons and the Lord can use them to save lives. In this episode we share some impactful stories of how God can use interactions with taxi drivers, Uber drivers, and other service people to change lives and we share some principles of how to interact with them.
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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me,
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welcome to the Gospel centered pro life
podcast. I'm here with Daniel Parks.
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Daniel is in a new place.
He's in the land of Golden Opportunity,
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right, you're in California, yeah, or the land of fruits and nuts.
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They well, that too. And
and I'm in North Carolina. So
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we are. We're recording remotely from
each other, yes, and but we
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we do intend to continue with our
podcast. Daniel will be out there for
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what three? Three months at this
point, is what the remberk is.
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Okay. Yeah, and and you
are out there working with our national missionaries.
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And, yeah, just California.
And encourage those who are out here
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who are love life missionaries. They're
doing the work. I want to support
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them and encourage them. Some of
these people, all of these people,
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are brand new to this ministry and
there's a lot of work to be done
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here. It just right. Guys, know, my voice is is terrible.
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I'm dealing with some allergy stuff.
Yeah, and I'd hope coming out
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to California would change that, but
apparently not. Seems like it. Yeah,
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a little worse. Yeah, my
God's graceful make it through this and
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we really feel like these podcasts are
important. We get a lot of feedback
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from people, from our missionaries.
They're encouraged. We touch on subjects that
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seem to be so timely. Like
we are podcast about what to do when
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an ambulance shows up and I get
an email like the next day from one
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of our one of the local volunteers
here in Riverside. Right, like an
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ambulance just showed up yesterday and you
know, what you've shared was really helpful.
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Also, I got an email from
somebody, I think in Florida,
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who had the same thing around the
same time. And Yeah, just actually
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had an interaction with a counselor or
a missionary is dealing with a woman that's
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going through miscarriage and we just put
out that last yeah, exactly. That
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happened to me also this past week. Someone that one of the missionaries said
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she was going through that and I
was able to point them to that podcast.
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So it is amazing how God kind
of nudges us to to do a
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subject and and sometimes you all not
just and that's how we decide what to
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what to do a podcast about.
That's the way it's actually okay, struggling
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through with my voice and you get
struggling through to listen to my voice,
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as terrible as it sounds. It's
worth it's worth it to us. Yeah,
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and even though through many dangerous toils
and snares we record the PODCAST,
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it's worth it. So right,
yeah, you guys that are listening,
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you're worth it. In the Gospel
going forth is worth it and babies being
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saved, mom's lobs be an impact, impacted. It's worth it, guys.
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So would encourage you and we hope
this blessing, or this episode will
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be a blessing to you guys.
Right, right. And this episode,
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like so many of them, came
about because someone mentioned it mentioned a situation
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where a service provider had come up
to the abortion center and they were curious
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about all. What do you do? What do you say? And we're
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always so careful to train our volunteers
that keep your focus your ministry is the
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unborn child and that that Mama,
because she has a life or death decision
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to make and one way or another, by the end of the day,
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that child see the going to be
alive or dead based on that mother's decision.
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So that's our ministry focus, but
that doesn't mean that we ignore that
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are in the vicinity or even something
that you would think maybe we would be
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not as useful to interact with,
such as the service providers, and by
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that I don't mean the abortion workers, but you know, the door people
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or the the person devel delivering Fedex, or are quite often the uber drivers,
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which we see frequently, Uber and
tax taxi drivers. So we see
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them all the time. And the
way that that we wanted to talk about
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this podcast is telling some stories.
Stories are so powerful and we've developed just
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a smattering of these are true stories
of things that have happened mostly within the
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past year, some of them very
recently. One of them happened just just
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last week or the week before,
of whereas service provider and our interactions with
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them led to a baby being saved, and that is not infrequent, and
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that that's kind of the Lord does
in these situations. Yeah, yeah,
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so the the you know, the
very first point is, of course they
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focused on on your mission field.
If you see a mom going in,
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she's she is your focus. Now, if it's in Uber or a taxi
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driver coming in, they're often transporting
a mom. So your interaction with them
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is going to be heard by the
mother and that is still keeping your ministry
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focus. But be careful about being
so sidetracked like think. You know,
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I got to talk to every service
person that comes in that maybe you're missing
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MOMS. That would not be appropriate. Yeah, but the one that happened
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recently, I was not a part
of this story. I was actually in
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the office when the councilor came in
and told me about this story. But
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a taxi driver with a Hispanic couple
in the back seat was driving slowly down
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the street. The driver stopped as
a taxi driver and he stopped. I
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think was a he, and the
conclor that that he stopped for was actually
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one of our brand new councilors and
she is really only on the sidewalk a
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few weeks and I'm sure she didn't
feel like she knew what to say.
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I remember what it was like when
I was brand new like that. But
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the first thing she said, and
I think you'll notice this trend in all
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of the stories, is did you
know that this is an abortion center?
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Yeah, yeah, that's something we
had to keep in mind because these uber
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drivers quite often, like probably ninety
nine point nine percent of the time,
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have no clue. They're just they
gotta message on their phone. I don't
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know exactly how Uber Works, except
for it's an APP and all of that,
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and they get anifications and I want
to be picked up and then they
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want to be picked up here and
they want to be taken there. It
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doesn't tell them they want to be
taken to the abortion clinic, you know
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right, and and it doesn't say
probably not going to share that information either,
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you know, when she gets into
the Uber. That's right, that's
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right. If I they sometimes do
tell me they know they're at a clinic,
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that they're coming to a preferred woman's
health center, but that hardly says
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abortion anywhere on it. And but
they are, I would say, most
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of the time, shocked. Most
of the time they are shocked. No,
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I didn't know that. So that
was the first thing that this just
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very intuitive counselor she did the exact
right thing, asked the exact correct first
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question. Did you know this is
an abortion center? Yeah, and the
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driver said he did not, and
he instantly glanced in his rearview mirror at
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the Hispanic couple. Now they did
not speak any English, from what I
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understand, and he was the uber
driver because he was also Hispanic. He
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spoke Spanish, and so a lot
of what transpired we don't know what he
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said because he's speaking in Spanish to
the couple, but he's clearly distraught as
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as he looks in the rearview mirror
and and the the couple in the back
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kind of squirm and he asks them
in Spanish if they knew that they were
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going to an abortion center. And
my guess is what transpired was that yes,
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obviously they knew, and there was
an argument that that ensues between the
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taxi driver and the couple in the
back seat and are again, are very
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smart. Counselor handed them the literature
and also, I believe, got Spanish
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literature into their hands to the taxi
driver, who instantly gave it to the
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couple and and she explains to the
taxi driver, who is bilingual, he
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was able to speak English. She
explained, well, this is an abortion
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center. And do you believe in
God? The number to question that,
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I think, would become on the
tails of that first question. Yeah,
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absolutely. Yeah, and it turns
out he did. And as soon as
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someone says yes, you the doors
wide open for you to say, well,
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you're you know, you're fair.
Is being paid in part by by
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someone or it's being paid by someone
who is here to kill their baby.
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And and you know, when you
take business that brings you into a place
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where babies are being murdered, then
you're complicit. And I don't know if
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she said exactly those words again,
I wasn't there, but something along those
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lines, saying you don't want to
be pulling into this place with that.
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You know, I think we we
have to be careful not to come across
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as like, you know, we're
condemning them, we're kind of lumping them
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in with the mom that's they're to
kill her baby or with the abortion clinic.
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And Right, they're not working for
the abortion clinic. Yeah, so
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I think there's a there's a balance
there. Again, these people don't know
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that they're coming. They're bringing someone
to an abortion clinic. Yeah, but
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the fact is they are bringing someone
to an abortion clinic, right. I
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mean, you can think of a
few analogies. You know, if you're
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in Nazi Germany and somebody's telling you
to drive a truck and you don't realize
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you got Jews in the back of
it and you're taking them to, you
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know, Nazi death camp, you
don't know, you don't know what you
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don't know and you're not guilty until
you find out. Right, and you
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now you realize halfway down the road
there's some Jews in the back and,
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yeah, you've got a choice to
make. You're going to keep driving the
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truck to the destination or are you
going to stop and say I'm not going
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to be a part of this?
That's right. You know, I think
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that's that's a good analogy maybe for
this scenario. But again we have to
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be careful. Like again, these
people don't know, so we're not going
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to condemn them for something they just
don't know, but we are going to
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inform them so that they do know. And then again they've got a choice
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to making that moment. Yeah,
and the council went on to share how
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we were going to be able to
help the couple in the backseat and she
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asked them to the taxi driver to
translate, which he did. So she
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listed the the resources, she talked
about God, she talked about the development
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of the baby, and the driver
said, I'm not going to I'm not
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going to drive them in there.
He refused. He said I will not,
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I won't do it. Now,
not all of them do that.
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Most of them don't do that,
to tell you the truth, but this
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man took stand. He was not
and the the couple in the back kind
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of threw up their hands and said
fine, take us back to the hotel
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and we'll call you all to find
out how you can help us. So
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it's grudging, apparently a little bit
angry, but but they did. They
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the driver took them back to the
hotel. He left. I don't know
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if they ever called our Spanish translator
or not, but for sure that day
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that baby's life was reprieved because of
the courageous stand of the taxi driver.
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And he wouldn't make that stand alone. He wouldn't have made it if he
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had read their picture, though,
just so people understand, I like this
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is happening within like fifty feet of
the abortion clinic. Right these people could
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have gotten out of the car and
walked into the abortion clinic. They could
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have you know, they were captive
in the car. It's not like,
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you know, they were miles away
from the abortion clinic. They could have
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just gotten out. And I've seen
that happen before. I've seen taxi drivers
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come. They refused to pull into
the abortion clinic because, you know,
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they've stopped and when they found out
they were not going to be complicit in
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this, in this whole thing,
they can't do anything. They can't lock
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the doors and drive the people back
to their you know where they picked them
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up at. So you know,
I've seen people get out of the Uber
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or get out of the taxi and
just walk into the abortion clinic. You
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know, at that point, I
think you know the Uber driver, the
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taxi driver, has done all that
they can do in this situation. It
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seems to me, as we say, these people are they're praying for a
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sign. It seems to me these
people took their the interaction with the taxi
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driver, or it was an uber
driver. Was An uber driver, this
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one was a taxi driver. I'm
pretty sure they sort of took that interaction
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as a sign from the Lord that's
right because again, if they really wanted
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to have the abortion, they could
have gotten out of the taxi and went
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into the abortion clinic. They could
have, and I think it illustrates another
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really important point that when we take
a stand for righteousness, people notice and
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it can sometimes breathe courage into hearts
that are wafering. Yeah, and I
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think that is part of what happened
this this taxi driver was adamant. He
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wasn't going to drive in there.
What they were about to do was wrong
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and and he was not going to
back down from from what he knew was
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was right. So I think that's
an encouragement for all of us that we
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need to stand firm on what we
know is true and right and what what
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God would have us do. Yes
here, speaking of encouragement. Yeah,
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the guy was a hero, absolute
yeah, speaking of the word encouragement,
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you guys have heard me in the
past talk about this. You know,
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to encourage someone is to put courage
into them, and that's what we're doing
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in these situations. Like we're speaking
to these the service people, these uber
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drivers especially, like Uber Drivers,
taxi drivers, and we're speaking courage into
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them and saying you can do this, you can take a stand for life,
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you can speak to them, you
can hand them this literature, because
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you know, often times when they
do stop, it's not that they're rolling
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down the back window for us to
talk to the person they have in the
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back right, they're rolling down their
window. So we've really, you know,
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we've really got to speak to them
and interact with them and encourage them,
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put courage into them that you can
speak to the people that you have
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in the back of your car,
you can give them this literature. So
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please, please do that. And
so when we're trying to put courage into
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them. Yeah, exactly. So
the the second situation was similar. Was
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a Newberg driver this time, but, and I think it's a really important
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little story to tell, because he
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when he stopped for me, I
think again, I don't it might have
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been a woman. I think it
was a man, but he dropped off
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a worker and the worker went in
and I called out to the worker.
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The worker went in and the tendency, my tendency even, is get back
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to my mission and ignore the person
coming out. He's already dropped the worker.
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What good is it going to do
to. He's just an uber driver.
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Yeah, you know, he may
never come here again, but I
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didn't that that time. I didn't. Sometimes I have. That time I
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didn't. He he pulled over,
stopped for me and I started off with
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the same thing. Did you know
this is an abortion center? And I
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think he might have known. I
think he had dropped this worker of at
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other times, and I talked about
what happens in an abortion center and then
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I handed him the information and I
said, listen, you may know someone
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that is considering an abortion, or
maybe you don't even know right now,
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but maybe if you hang onto this, I guarantee you someone's going to happen
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along in your life that is in
an unplanned pregnancy considering an abortion, and
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I want you to know we help
them. We help them with resources and
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no matter what situation they face,
and with a mentorship program we even do
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baby showers that provide two full years
of what that child will need. I
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just would encourage you to take this
information and if you know someone that's struggling,
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would you tell her will help them? That's my name and and my
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number on the back. So he
took the information and said thank you and
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left. And that afternoon I was
home from the abortion center and I got
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a call from a woman who said
it is this Vickie. Yes, well,
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and Uber driver is a friend of
mine and he just gave me a
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pamphlet that he got from you today
and he said that you all help women
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who are struggling and unplanned pregnancies and
thinking about abortion. And that's my story.
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D can You tell me what you
could do, how you could help?
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And so I did and one thing
led to another. I shared the
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Gospel. She had fallen away from
God, but she and she knew it.
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And and like so many women,
when she made the decision to abort,
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it felt like God had abandoned her
when in reality, of course she
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had abandoned God. But she be
committed her life to the Lord. She
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said she was not going to abort. She wanted the mentor and and so,
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you know, praise God for that
amazing result of the obedience of that
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Uber driver. But the story didn't
end there. She got involved with the
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mentor. She found out just how
much help the mentorship program is and her
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cousin it was also in an unplanned
pregnancy. She told her cousin about us,
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gave the cousin the pamphlet. The
cousin contacted me and it was the
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same ending. She she also committed
her life to the Lord. She wanted
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to mentor. She got a mentor, and so two babies and to eternal
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lives were saved by handing and Uber
driver leaving after dropping someone at the abortion
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center, but by handing him a
pamphlet and telling them about the help that
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was available. Well, it's amazing. Yeah, you know, again a
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story that I wouldn't have known,
which is why we do these podcast I
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would think, why bother? Why
bother giving giving our information to someone who's
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already dropped the woman. It wasn't
even a mom to there to abort it.
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It was a marker. Here's what
I'll say. Win and doubt.
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Hand it out. Yeah, and
out. Hand out a piece of literature.
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Now we don't have just be flinging
literature all over the place. You
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know, everybody that walks Bo gets
literature if you're on like a busy road
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or something like that. But when
in doubt, hand it out. If
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there's an uber driver that stops to
take it, get literature into their hands.
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Maybe they did drop somebody off and
they didn't know it. Maybe we
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didn't, they weren't able to stop
or for whatever reason they went in still
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didn't realize it was an abortion clinic. They come out. I've had that
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situation happened before. I'll still give
them a piece of literature. I'll try
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to encourage them. Can you text
that woman and get her to come out
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and talk to us? You know, I'll try to encourage me do that.
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Yeah, nothing else. I'll say, hang on to this literature,
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keep it in your car in case
this happens again. You'll know where you're
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coming next time, right, and
you can hand them this literature. So,
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yeah, that literature is powerful.
It seems that that we plant that
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keep on bringing an increase in yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's the same uber
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driver that will end up picking them
up. Sometimes they've said come back in
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an hour or something. Yeah,
that so, and you never know,
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and then you've got a double chance
to hopefully reach reach that woman. So
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the next story is a little bit
different, again, one that I think
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the Holy Spirit prompted us to act, but that I probably wouldn't, under
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normal circumstances, have said anything to
these workers. As a paving company,
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it was a paving company truck pulls
in. There are a lot of potholes
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in in the abortion center parking lot, but that didn't really register to me
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at first. I thought it was
a dad. We do see businesses pull
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in in their business trucks pull in
with as the dad sometimes meeting the mom,
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but in this case so his the
the name of the paving company is
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on the side and and as he's
pulling in, I said our did you
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know this is an abortion center that
you're pulling into? And he said no,
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and he looked visibly shaken. He
did not and I went into,
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you know, a very similar thing
as what I've already told you that I
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say, where I described what happens
there, and then I said are are
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you a believer? And he said
yes, and I said well, what
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would what would God have you do? Meanwhile the security people are going nuts.
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paver trunk driver, and they're screaming
at me just that he's here to do
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a job, idiot, just leave
them alone. Let him drive in.
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And I never listened to them.
I there were no other cars it.
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You know, they they're not the
cops and I wasn't doing anything. I
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wasn't blocking anyone. The paver wasn't
blocking any car from coming in or out.
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They're just mad that I'm stopping this
person who, they said, he's
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he's got a contract, he's he's
about to do business with this spe just
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let the guy do his job.
They're swearing at me, screaming at me,
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and I hand him our information and
and and said really, think about
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what God would have you do.
And they drive in and so I think
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okay, and I go. I
go back. I'm ready to start calling
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out, you know, to the
MOMS. And they did aktern in the
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parking lot and pulled right out and
as they're driving out, he held up
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the literature and pointed to the sky, you know, to God, and
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left. They didn't come back.
The the paving company left. So we're
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all just cheering. Security is swearing. But that's not the end of that
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story either. That Saturday and Daniel, I think you were the one that
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had this interaction, or one of
the Saturday people. I heard about it
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again. I was I was there, but I wasn't right at the driveway
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where another paving truck pulled them.
So that Saturday, right. Was it
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you? You know, the one
that was there? Yeah, yeah,
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so same thing. They pull in. It sounds like it was the exact
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same scenary. Hey, Hey,
man, did you know this is an
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abortion center? And I don't know
if they did or not, but in
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a glue and they had no clue
and they they pull in and then did
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a you turn and left. Yeah, and as they were leaving they said
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God, bless you guys for what
you're doing. took all so, I
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mean that story is so great to
me because to paving truck companies that chose
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to glorify God rather than be paid
their salary by the blood of babies,
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that was just such an encouragement.
Yeah, to me. Shortly thereafter was
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the first four day wee can that
I think I've ever known the abortion center
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to have, and it maybe it
was on the fourth of July weekend.
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So normally they take the fourth off, but if it falls on, you
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know, a Friday or Saturday,
but that's it. Maybe a second day.
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But it was the a full four
day week and which I had never
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seen. And the parking lot was
paved and in that period of time,
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so a pavery, a paving company
showed up about, apparently the abortion center
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Wi stoup that hey, when there's
a Christian witness out there, even the
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workers are affected by by the choice
to follow God, and we're going to
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have to do this under cover of
night and cover up some when they're not
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there. I want to reiterate the
point I made earlier, is that,
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you know, these people quite likely
don't know that it's an abortion clinic and
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we got to be careful the way
that we come across. We don't want
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to come across as like we're just
we're condemning them, we're lumping them in
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with the abortionist or the abortion clinic. In the sense we want to inform
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them. You know, we want
to expose Effesians five eleven right. Have
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no fellowship with him, proof for
works of darkness, but rather expose them.
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And really we're exposing these people,
the service people, whoever they might
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be, to the reality that's going
on inside of that building and before God,
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they have to make a choice.
Now I'll share a story real quick,
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if my voice will allow, and
this is man I don't know,
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probably ten years or more ago I
was out there on a Saturday. This
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is when I was volunteering on the
sidewalk at that time and I noticed that
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people started flooding out of the building, out of the abortion clinic on the
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troube and I'm like, okay,
something's going on here, something pretty significant
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in this is this is great,
because people are getting in their cars and
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they're leaving and and all of that. Come to find out, a squirrel
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had somehow got on the transformer or
something like that and kind of made the
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two contacts connect and Squirrel got fried. But theyd you out. Yeah,
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so out at the abortion clinic and
so they couldn't do abortions. Last Saturday
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at that time, sometimes there would
be fifty S S, sometimes seventy people
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there for an abortion. It was
a slaughter house, let me tell yeah.
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And there'd be people parking out on
the streets and because the parking lot
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was so full there for an abortion. So I'm rejoicing. It was being
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a small team goes out there.
Were rejoicing that these babies are not going
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to die. And then the the
power company truck pulls in, or pulling
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in to restore power. The guys
stopped and talked with me and I beg
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this guy and he didn't know it
was an abortion clinic, but I beg
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this man please, this is an
abortion clinic. If you restore their power,
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they're going to begin killing babies again. This guy now, and I
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was as gracious as I could possibly
be. I'm not accusing him of anything
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he didn't know, but I did
bleed with him and this guy was not
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happy. So just be prepared that
some people are not going to be happy.
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He's like, I'm just doing my
job, which I'm like, I
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understand. Yeah, man, yeah, I would hate to be in that
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situation and we really have to understand
from their perspective, the situation that they're
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in. They do have a job
to do, I can get that,
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but at the end of the day, if that job is going to be
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restoring the power to a place that
that murders children, they've really got it
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before God make a decision and I
believe, the right thing. I mean
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I think anyone looking at this scenario
the right thing. This guy will saying,
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well, somebody's got to restore the
power to this place. I'm like,
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yeah, of course somebody has to, but it ain't got to be
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you. Right, let somebody else
do it. If you trust in the
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Lord Trust in him. And again, I'm trying to put myself in that
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scenario. I would hate to be
in that situation. Okay, you lose
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your job, you know, certainly, yeah, but again, babies are
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dying, and so I think we
have to balance. We have to be
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gracious about this, right, we
have to. We have to not just
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kind of disconnect ourselves from the situation. You have to realize that we could
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be in that same situation and you
know, maybe some of you guys that
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are volunteer on the sidewalk, maybe
you're an uber driver, some people do
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that on the side, you might
be put in this situation. To imagine
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this is going to be an easy
decision when your life, in your livelihood,
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depends on it is is likely not
true for any of these people.
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That's their only livelihood. So we
have to we have to meet them with
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that, with that in mind,
and we have to we have to address
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them with humility. But again,
at the end of the day, inside
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of that building they are killing children, Bab yeah, in these service people
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can can do something to affect that
in some way. So, yeah,
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we're put that out there. Yeah, that's a good story. I've never
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heard that one there was one that
happened recently, well, I guess about
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a year ago in New York City, and again it was only related to
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me. So I'm not sure if
I have this story totally correctly, but
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it's similar to what you just said. It was an uber driver who had
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become a new believer and he was
going to church with one of our missionaries
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and he happened to be delivering food. Maybe I maybe he was a door
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driver, but he was. He
was a door driver, and so he
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was delivering food net actually not at
the planned parenthood in New York City,
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but nearby, and he saw all
those missionaries on the sidewalk and pulled over.
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He said Hey, what's happening here, and they explained what was happening
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here and he he delivered the food
and then he went to one of the
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MOMS and he's a new believer.
He was on fire for the Lord with
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the zeal, all the zeal of
you know remember when you were a new
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believer, and he talked her out
of them killing the baby and that baby
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was saved because the door driver decided
he was going to find out what was
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going on. The missionaries were more
than happy to tell him what was going
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on. The baby was saved and
he was so moved by what God had
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done that he now volunteers with them. He started volunteering with them in a
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apparently he's still with them. He's
still volunteering and very effective. So again,
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you never know, this might be
your future volunteer pool. But the
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people that pull in. So one
of my favorite stories, I think it's
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our last story, was an interpreter, and this was it poignant in the
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same way as you were illustrating,
Daniel, as you were saying be gracious.
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For some of these people this is
really it is their livelihood and this,
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this paycheck means could mean the difference
between the feed and their family or
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not, and and to try and
be cognizant of that. I tend to
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forget that because my focus is more
on the baby, but I think it
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is such an important thing to remember. But in this case, this interpreter
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came, she was dropped by her
husband and her. They were both you
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could tell as as the husband dropped
her, he hugged her, he kissed
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her, you could tell there was
anguish in in this couple and I thought
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she was a mom coming to a
board and so started calling out in that
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that way, and she said none, no, no, she she doesn't
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believe an abortion. I said,
well, what are you doing here then?
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And and she said, well,
I've been I work as an interpreter
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and I've been called to interpret for
a mom who doesn't speak English who's here
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to kill her baby. And I
begged her, don't, don't, don't.
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If you don't interpret that baby,
they the mom won't be able to
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go through with it because she won't
be able to understand and just drive away.
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And she had a discussion with the
husband but said look, I I'm
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sorry, I this is it.
My husband can't work, he's disabled.
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This is my job. I can't
risk losing this job or getting a bad
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right up or whatever. And and
so I said look at at least can
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you try and sneak her the literature? Here's what we do. I explained
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to her what we do and and
told her about because the information was not
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in this woman's language. It was
an unusual language and I won't tell you
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because I don't want to get this
interpreter in trouble. But Um, she
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did take it. She hit it
under her shirt, as we recommend it,
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and and she went in and she
was in there a good couple of
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hours. So we're of course sad. We thought she probably did her best.
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And then we see her coming out
and she came right over to us
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and she said the mom is coming
out and I said did she kill her
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baby? and Said No. During
the whole time that the interpreter was interpreting,
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she was not interpreting what the abortion
center was telling her to interpret.
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She knew none of them understood what
she was saying and she was telling the
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woman about us, about everything we
could do, about God, about that
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baby, the humanity of that baby
and that she should never kill her child.
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And the she said the woman's coming
out and I want to interpret for
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you all for free on the mobile
ultrasound unit. So the woman did come
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out. She came right over to
us. The interpreter brought her on with
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me and whoever else, the nurse
and all onto the mobile ultrasound unit.
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The woman chose life. was so
grateful she had. She was, you
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know, in the country, didn't
know anyone. I mean I knew you,
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I got it. I understood the
fear that had overwhelmed this woman.
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But with all the things that we
offered her that. I believe that might
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have been before the days of the
mentorship program and love life, but Sheryl
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Chandler of truth and mercy pro life
ministries definitely offered her a baby shower.
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I called Sheryl from the RV and
Sheryl said she would love to do the
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baby shower for this this young couple, and we did. It was,
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I remember still that baby shower because
they were so poor but they had this
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lavish meal prepared. I knew they
couldn't have afforded it, but it was
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like just an amazing meal, which
never happens. I mean we usually take
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them out to to the meal,
but they were so grateful they had they
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and that that little boy is now, I think, six and every few
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months I get a picture in with
with this woman in her broken English,
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thanking us for having been there along
with it's a group email to me,
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Ryl and the interpreter, and she
has remained friends with that interpreter, as
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have we, and and you know, years and years later she is still
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still thanking us and saying how this
young, young boy is just the the
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light of her of her life.
Yeah, so you know, use the
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interpreters the yeah, the bottom line, center doesn't know. Yeah, with
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with all of these people, whatever
capacity they're they're a God. Can Use
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anything. God can use anything.
We don't want to be distracted, like
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you started out, we don't want
to let these people be our focus.
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Right, the MOM's going in and
our is our focus. But kind of
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like that analogy that we laid out
that you know, we're like a lawyer
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on behalf of that baby. Right, we're pleading that baby's case proverbs thirty
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one, verses eight and nine.
We're making a case for those who are
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unjustly scheduled to die and we're appealing
to the judge, which is the mother.
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But we're also bringing witnesses, right, and sometimes as witnesses are the
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DADS, some times they're the new
friend that brought her friend there for an
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abortion. Sometimes they're the UBER driver, sometimes they're the door driver, sometimes
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they're, you know, these other
service people that are there unknowingly or whatever,
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and sometimes they can be called it
with the analogy, kind of in
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line with the analogy, as witnesses, this baby does not deserve death,
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but deserves to live. And in
this situation with the interpreter, she was
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certainly a witness in that baby's case. That, yeah, baby deserves to
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live and praise God for just the
fruit that was born out of that situation.
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Really and that was a story that
we were not able to share for
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years because we didn't you know,
it's so far removed now they'd never be
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able to figure out who it was
if they even wanted to at this point.
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But for years we were not able
to share that story, which is
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true of so many of these miraculous
stories. We don't share them on purpose.
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We don't want to get especially these
service workers in trouble when they have
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worked so hard to to fight for
that child's life. So it's such a
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delight to be able to tell that
story a little bit because it is one
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of the most miraculous things that I
have seen happen out there. This is
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a woman who knew she had to
go in, but she was still not
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going to deny her God. Yeah, and and and fought for that baby's
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life successfully. Yeah, yeah,
want you read that scripture that you have
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kind of at the end of this
article that you wrote. Like you guys
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know, Vicky wrote an article that's
come of framework for this a podcast episode.
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Read that scripture, maybe expounded on
a little bit and then we'll yeah
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thing up. Yeah, so it's
is AIAH forty one versus ten through thirteen.
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And I will tell you what stops
me, and maybe it's what stops
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a lot of us, from speaking
to the workers, the service people that
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are coming in, is fear.
Yeah, I'm afraid. I'm afraid they're
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gonna they're going to be mad.
It is their job and I do feel
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some you know, there's some kind
of at some angst about that. Should
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should I really be stopping someone who
is putting food on the table? I
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mean, they're not doing the abortion
there and anyway, so they're I don't
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want to talk often times to these
service workers and I think in the point
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of this podcast is to say don't
ever let fear stop you from doing what
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God has called you to do,
and I think quite often he has called
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us to speak to those service workers. So that verst is a a forty
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one verse ten to thirteen. Do
not fear, for I am with you.
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Do not anxiously look about you,
for I am your God. I
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will strengthen you, surely I will
help you, surely I will uphold you
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with my righteous right hand behold all
those who are angered at you will be,
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will be shamed and dishonored. I
can't help but think of those security
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men screaming and swearingness. Those who
contend with you will not be as nothing.
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will be as nothing and will perish. You will seek those who quarrel
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with you, but will not find
that. Those who war with you will
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be as nothing and nonexistent for I
and the Lord, your God, who
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uphold you with your right, with
my righteous right hand, who says to
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you, do not fear, I
will help you. And bottom line,
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he always does. He always helps
us. It may not be the way
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you expect. Don't don't get me
wrong. Babies will still die, service
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workers will still drive in, but
when you take a bold step for God,
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invariably miracles happen. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, guys. I mean
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all through the Scripture, be bold
and courageous. You guys. The Bible
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says the righteous are as bold as
a lion. You guys, are servant
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on the sidewalk. I believe you're
the righteous that are as bold as a
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lion. Not a righteousness that you've
come up with yourself. It's a righteousness
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that comes through Jesus Christ, but
your obedience is stepping into righteousness and being
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a righteous person. And listen,
you guys can be as bold as a
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lion. We don't need to be
timid, we don't need to feel like
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we're inconveniencing people. Listen, remember
babies are dying and God has called you
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to this mission. So be bold, speak to these service people. Do
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it graciously. A bold, gracious
convers conversation with them can go a long
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way. And and God's going to
use you, guys. God is using
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you guys. So with that we're
going to wrap this episode up. As
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always, we encourage you guys to
reach out to us. You can reach
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out to me, Danielt Love Life
Dot Org. You can reach out to
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her, Vicky, at Love Life
Dot Org. Again, apologize for my
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voice. I got some allergy stuff
going on, but hopefully this episode was
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a blessing to you and we look
forward to doing future episodes for you guys.
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Are reach out. Let us know. What are some subjects we can
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cover. But until next time,
God bless get that show. Give me
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our love for love, give me
our loft for gratitude. I know it
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will cost me my life. No, sins too precious, and some you