Nov. 19, 2020
One Pro-Life Brochure Changed Her Life (Interview with Izzy, a mom who chose life)

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We tend to think that we need to do extraordinary things to have an impact for the Lord. Izzy's story proves that all we have to do is make ourselves available and God will use us. When she arrived at the abortion center someone gave her pro-life...
We tend to think that we need to do extraordinary things to have an impact for the Lord. Izzy's story proves that all we have to do is make ourselves available and God will use us. When she arrived at the abortion center someone gave her pro-life literature and ultimately that's what God used to save her baby and change her life. Join us as we interview Izzy and let her share her story.
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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me,
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Lord, I am yours. Welcome
to the Gospel Center pro life podcast.
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Can you believe that just one pro
life brochure can save a life?
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And this episode we do an interview
with Izzy who's babies life was safe just
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because someone got a brochure in her
hands. Stay tuned. I felt show
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Passi touch your heart. Use Welcome
to the Gospel Center pro life podcast.
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Appreciate you guys listening. Appreciate you
guys joining us in this podcast. We'd
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appreciate if you guys would share this
podcast and leave us a review. We've
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got a lot of as we shared
on the last podcast, a lot of
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pretty stay interesting reviews from pro abortion
people who don't particularly like what we do.
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But that's okay. We were able
to share some of those reviews and
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hope that was a blessing you guys. But we've got a special guest today
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in this podcast. We think this
really will be a blessing to you guys.
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This is a mom that chose life
back in two thousand and eighteen who's
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just been a blessing to the ministry. Is he and she's joining us on
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zoom. Of course you guys can't
see her, but you'll you'll hear her.
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So if the autos audios a little
choppy, that might be why.
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But hopefully it'll be good quality for
you guys to listen and hopefully this interview
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will be a blessing to you guys. And these interviews are designed not just
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to show how great of a ministry
we have, although we think it is
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great, but it's to equip you
guys. Maybe there's some things, some
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mistakes we made in reaching is he
things we could have done better and she's
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going to share with us. Maybe
things we could have done better, maybe
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things we did perfectly. I don't
know. But either way we want you
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guys to just be equipped and so
sometimes you can learn from other people's experiences
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and we can certainly learn from the
perspective of a mom who came to an
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abortion center. That's always helpful,
because perspective is often times massively helpful for
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us to just connect with a heart
of someone who maybe we have never been
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in their shoes before. So so
is he's with us today. She's got
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her little girl, Nazi in the
back seat asleep and hopefully she'll stay asleep
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for this interview, but yeah,
so is he. Just introduce yourself real
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quick and and then we'll get into
just sharing some of your story, some
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of your background and what ultimately brought
you to the abortion center and then,
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ultimately, what turns you away.
So, hi, I'm is he.
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Thank you, guys, for having
us on your show. It's a blessing
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to have met you, guys.
Yeah, it's a blessing to know you
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isy. You've been a real blessing
to our ministry for very special woman.
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Thank you, guys. Are Very
special to us too. I grew up
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in New York City. I was
I grew up in the Bronx. When
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I was eleven, my parents got
divorced. They both got into newish relationships
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almost immediately. I had moved in
with my mom and, you know,
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she would go out with her partner. I would be home alone on the
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weekends and I had lots of freedom. I made friends from the neighborhood who
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were a lot older than me.
I started smoking pot. Eventually I dropped
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out of school and I just went
downhill from there. HMM. I have
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seen God's hands deliver me time and
time again, even while I was in
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sin. Yeah, you see,
the seed was planted in me at a
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young age. I have family who
passtor, a church in the Bronx and
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which I was actually dedicated by my
uncle through marriage there in that church.
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My father wound up going to prison. My mom and I unfortunately never had
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a good relationship. It's now work
in progress and I'm praying to God that
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he will restore our relationship. Yeah, Amen, I know. I knew
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that I needed a drastic change and
I had no idea what to start.
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Now I have a childhood friend.
It's pretty funny because I actually met her
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at this same church where I had
told you that I was dedicated to gotta,
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and she's been living in North Carolina
for quite some time now and she's
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been trying to convince me to move
here for the long guess, and I
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never took her up on it until
then. Yeah, she tells me she
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has a job for me here,
but I had to stop smoking. I
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had never stopped smoking weed before.
Like I could have headaches of cold,
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I could be dying and I would
never stop smoking. Yeah, I'd always
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smoke. So this I didn't know
how I was going to pull it off,
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but God right. Yeah, I
prayed a guy for his assistance and
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on April nineteen, two thousand and
seventeen, that morning I didn't smoke and
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then I didn't smoke for the entire
day and I had no idea how I
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was going to pull this off.
And I'm I just want to stay the
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fun fact. For those that that
are familiar with for and twenty, it's
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National Weed Smoking holiday. Yeah,
April twenty, so just a day before
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was my first day that I hadn't
smoked. Wow, that's just God showing
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off. Yeah, I'm like,
so how am I going to pull this
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off? I get a call from
a buddy of mine who I actually used
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to play golf with and he invites
me to Florida to play golf that upcoming
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weekend. This gentleman is actually a
recovered attict and his field of work was
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helping people get off a drugs.
Okay, this man had no idea what
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I was going through at that time
when he invited me to go out and
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to Florida to this golf outing with
him. So that was another God moment.
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Yeah, I was getting cravings here
and there, but I I was
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distracted, you know, playing golf
and I wasn't thinking about it. On
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our way back, I start sweating, I'm getting withdrawals and I'm even feeling
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suicidal and Lucky for me, I'm
thirty threezero feet in the air. Yeah,
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so now I'm I'm desperate and I'm
in my head and I'm like,
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okay, I'm going to make all
the changes, all the necessary arrangements that
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I need to move to Charlotte.
So I call my friend and I tell
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her I'm ready to go. So
I mail my stuff down south and my
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my friend had a job for me
here and God is just helping me in
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a supernatural way. So at that
point you're you're trying to get away from
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the old friends and the culture that
you were kind of member style. Yeah,
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yeah, absolutely. So it's like
there's this open door to come to
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North Carolina and and ultimately you kind
of check all the boxes that you need
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to check and your bags are packed
in your headed this way. That's it.
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That's exactly what happened. So I
get to North Carolina and I start
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working with my friend. Then I
pick up another job. Eventually I'm working
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three jobs and I'm back down to
two and I get transferred from my first
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job to another location and now I
meet at this new location, I meet
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my daughter's father. Okay, so
I'm new here. He's, you know,
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taking me out. We are,
he's showing me around town and we,
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I mean we pretty much hit it
off. And come November I find
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out that I'm pregnant. Mind you, sorry, I had moved here on
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May seventh of two thousand and seventeen, so that was only six months that
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I had been here in Charlotte and
here I am pregnant. So just imagine
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the desperation, like I had just
left New York behind to start a clean
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slate. I come here and I'm
just on to get my feet went get
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established, and now I'm pregnant.
Yeah, with the guy that I barely
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even know. Yeah, so I
run to the abortion clinic and I meet
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you, wonderful people offering US help
and hope and, best of all,
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Jesus. Yeah, which the father
of the baby pushing you for the abortion,
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did even know about the baby.
Um, we had both decided that
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it was in fact, very soon. He has three other children, so
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you know, our daughters his fourth. So there was definitely some pressure there,
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but at the end he was very
supportive like once we were in the
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abortion clinic and he you know,
I broke down in tears, you know,
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reading this pamphlet and he knows of
God to so I know that he
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was also convicted. Yeah, so
just to help other folks who are who
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are listening, who are maybe out
of an abortion center or praying about going
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out to an abortion center, walk
us through real quick maybe even from making
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the appointment to showing up for the
appointment and kind of what the scene was
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when you actually showed up, maybe
some of the things that when you made
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the appointment that they told you,
and just kind of set that stage for
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folks that are listening, if you
can. Well, when I called,
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it's actually pretty interesting because there was
sometimes when I had I had gotten cold
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feet. I got it I was
gonna have my baby, I was going
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to get an abortion, and I
was kind of pink punting back and forth
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from that and I try to make
a prenatal appointment and it was so much
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harder to make a set of prenatial
appointment then it was to set an abortion,
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to get an appointment to get an
abortion. And so when I called
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them and they asked me to just
bring my ID and four hundred dollars and
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that's all I would need to me
my appointment. I came in and the
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place was congested. There was nowhere
to sit. They had this movie on
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and like the girls are just watching
TV and laughing and I just couldn't believe
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it. As a matter of fact, it was a girl there who must
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have been at least six months pregnant. Her stomach was huge. Yeah,
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yeah, and that's the I mean, it's interesting that you say that.
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I could some normal thing as I'll
say. It's interesting that you say that
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about the the ease of making the
appointment as opposed to the difficulty of making
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an appointment to an Obie doctor.
It's like, you know, it's you
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can just call up on the phone
now, yeah, we'll take you,
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will take you, just bring your
four hundred dollars in your ID. You
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try to make an OB appointment.
Sometimes that can be a pretty difficult pass
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away. Two months. Yeah,
that's a shame. Did they do any
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kind of counseling over the post?
I couldn't believe it. Did they counsel
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you, I mean the abortion center? Did they counsel you over the phone
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or anything like that? Part of
you showing up? No, no,
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not at all. It was like, yeah, I did just come in.
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Okay, can you come in in
the morning? We have an opening
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in the morning. And that was
it. It's almost like if I was
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ordering food from Doordet. Yeah,
wow, yeah, and so you were
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talking about kind of how it was
when actually you came into the abortion center.
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You said it was it was packed
inside of there. There was a
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young lady in there. That was
you said. She was looked like she
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was six months pregnant. Kind of
continue on that vein and just share kind
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of what it was like in there. There was nowhere to sit. These
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girls were just glue to the TV. I couldn't believe it, you know,
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like we're killing our babies, babies
right now. Their hearts are beating
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inside of us. They're feeding off
of whatever we ate this morning or you
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know, and and here they are, they're watching this movie and they're just
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laughing and and it's like nothing.
The girls are they work there, are
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just answering phones and make an appointments
and just chilling their gum and blowing bubbles
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with, you know, blowing bubbles
with they're going. It's absolutely normal.
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It's just normal. It's kind of
like it's another day, a nonchalant kind
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of atmosphere, like, just like
you said, another day at the office,
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right. And how did that kind
of strike you? I mean,
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obviously it struck you as odd and
as troubling, but what were what was
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going on in your heart that time? You're in this waiting room full of
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people you've sense because you've known the
Lord, and so you're sensing some of
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the darkness. I'm sure that's inside
of that place. fact, what's going
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through your mom what's going through your
heart at that moment when you're sitting in
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that waiting room and you're still going
back and forth whether or not you should
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go through with the abortion? Right. So now I'm in the abort and
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the abortion clinic and I have this
pamphlet in my hand and I'm leading through
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it. I'm now explain that big
and by the whole spring that pamphlet for
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a second is see, because I'm
not sure, or maybe I missed it,
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but where and how did you get
that pamphlet? So, this pamphlet.
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When we drove into the abortion clinic, they were amazing people standing outside,
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angels of God that were offering us
help, leading with us not to
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kill our babies. And I received
this pamphlet from one of the sidewalk counselors.
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Okay, and I did in fact
bring this pamphlet inside with me and
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they didn't say didn't try to grab
it or anything. They didn't even see
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it. It was like invisible to
them. It was a spiritual thing.
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I honestly, it's a supernatural thing. They did not see it and I
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bought it in with me. I
began to skim through it and I saw
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the pictures, I read the Scripture
on there and then I saw a picture
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of an aborted fetus in the back
of the book and if I'm not mistaken,
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and said that that baby was eight
weeks. Oh, and I was
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fourteen weeks pregnant. Well, I
mean my daughter was was pretty much formed.
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Yeah, already. You know,
I had I had heard that,
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you know, they're just cells,
that they don't feel anything. And so,
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do you know? I believe the
lies and I'm like, okay,
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well, they're not going to feel
anything and I I can't have this baby
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right now. I'm not ready and
and the devil is a liar. Yeah,
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I meant one of the moms that
I'm sorry, not a mom.
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She she was an employee at Planing
parenthood and she gave a testimony which she
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said in this stood with me,
that went a mom was sedated and they
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had to perform use the ultrasound to
locate the baby before they performed the abortion
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and that she saw that the baby
was fighting for its life and trying to
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grab onto its mom and that that
just that just stood with me. I've
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never forgotten those words. Yeah,
so this is an important point for folks
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who are listening to this podcast again, who are out there on the side
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walks are praying about going out at
their local abortion center. What is he
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as sharing is is pretty powerful,
but it pretty basic in that what really
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helped change her mind was a piece
of literature. Yeah, and as actually
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it was vicky that got that piece
of literature. To use that correct that's
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yeah, and so it because we
might think, people tend to think like
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well, I've got to be like
I've got to have all the answers,
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I've got to have all the stuff
figured out, I've got to say everything
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just right, I've got a whatever, whatever people are using as fear and
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reasons why they might not go out
and minister at an abortion center when,
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in this case, your baby was
saved because somebody handed you or slipped a
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piece of literature in your vehicle and
in God use that piece of literature.
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Vickie didn't really particularly say a word
herself, but that literature spoke volumes,
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is what I'm hearing you say.
That's right. Yes, and prayer,
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prayer, Yeah. So one of
the things the Bible says, and it's
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an important truth that we all need
to, as children of God, understand
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and allow it to minister to us. Where Paul talks about he plants a
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seed, a police comes along,
as and waters, but God gives the
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increase. Right. So you had
some seeds planted in you pretty early,
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you said, eleven years old.
Even before that you were raised in church.
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So there's these seeds that are planted. They obviously had not, had
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not grown up into what God intended, because you ultimately fall into the kind
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of drug lifestyle and just turned away
from the Lord. And yet those seeds
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were still there. And what happened
really it's just far as what I'm hearing
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is when Vicki gave you that piece
of literature, that was just pouring water
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on that seat have been planted some
years ago, but Vicki pour some water
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on that seed and here it is. This seed is growing and growing and
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growing. Ultimately, that see growing
in your heart translated into your precious little
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girl being safe. So talk a
little bit about that. So you've have
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the literature, you're reading through it. You see that powerful image, and
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there's some images in that booklet of
babies in the womb, but also that
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powerful image in the back of the
booklet, which is a baby that's a
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victim of abortion, and you see
that the horror of what you're about to
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do in the whole blob of tissue, clump of cells, that whole lie
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that people use, that's just right, dispelled. That darkness is has been
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dispelled by the light of truth.
What happens after that point, though?
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You see that you know that I
can't do this. Do you leave immediately
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or how's that? How's that scenario? R and and I tell my daughter's
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father that I just can't. I
look at him and I like, I
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can't do that, I just can't, and he's like so let's go.
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And I there was a line of
girls waiting to be to check in,
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I guess for their appointment. Yeah, and I'm like, excuse me,
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and I got in front of the
person who was in front of the line
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and I asked a girl from ID
and she just she's like what's what's wrong?
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You will right, and I'm like
I just I just can't do this.
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And she try to tell I remember
her saying, Oh, come on,
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girl, like like it's nothing,
wow, like oh, it's fine,
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oh, I don't worry about it, it's nothing. Like. But
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they were so busy, like if, maybe, if they wouldn't have been
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so many people there in the phones
wouldn't have been ringing off the hook,
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they probably would have tried to stop
me, yeah, to talk me into
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into going through with the abortion.
Yeah, it sounds like they were starting
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to do that, right. They
that's what they were trying to do.
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I called that vibe from her.
I did, because she was being very
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hesitant, and given me my license
and you and I grabbed my license and
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we were out of there. Yeah, and we drove right past you guys.
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Yeah, how I wish that I
would have said something to you guys
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then. But yeah, what was
going through your mind? Just that you
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just wanted to get out of there
as fast as possible. Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah, felt such a desperation.
Yeah, yeah, was there a
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sense of any I know because we've
talked to thousands of women going into abortion
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centers and so we know there's there's
this fight of potential regret, but also
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relief of maybe having the abortion.
But where's there when you left that abortion
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center? was there a sense of
relief or maybe a sense of Gret?
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Regret, or maybe a little bit
of both? What was the what was
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the feeling driving down the road?
Honestly, a little bit of both at
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the time. Yeah, I remember
I had just been here six months.
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I really didn't know this guy and
I knew, and I don't want to
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say that, but I felt that
there was going to be some kind of
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hinderance. Yeah, you know,
but she she us truly a blessing.
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Yeah, to me she really is. She has saved me. Yeah.
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So I want to again folks that
are listening who are going out to their
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abortion center and maybe not yet going
out when you guys can understand kind of
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the scenario who in this this actually
plays out a lot more than we think,
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because we might tend to think,
okay, a mom choose us live,
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so she's of course going to walk
over to the sidewalk or she's going
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to stop in the driveway and let
us know. That was not necessarily the
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case. That was not the case
for you. It's not necessarily the case
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for many of the moms that choose
life. There's stories that I think we're
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not going to find out about until
we stand before the Lord and the Lord
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shows us these babies that were saved. And I can say this for you,
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is he, and and for your
daughter Nazi. You guys have been
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on kind of a national platform and
shared your testimony and still continuing to share
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your testimony and even sharing on social
media. There's going to be babies that
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are saved, is he, that
you won't find out about right until you
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stand before the Lord, that were
saved because you shared your testimony, because
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of this podcast, even right now. Yeah, I mean this is an
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equipping podcast. It helps equip Christians
and people are going to be really encouraged.
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People, the boldness of God is
going to rise up in people that
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are listening to this podcast that they
can actually go and they can stand and
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they can hand out literature and babies
are going to be saved just through you
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sharing this this testimony right, and
they can also not be dismayed when they
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don't see any visible fruit. Because
we didn't know that day. In fact,
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as I recall, it was at
least several weeks or maybe months later
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that you did call me, because
we put our number right, yeah,
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on the back of the so you
had my number and my name and sometime
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later you decided to call. Yes, your number was in the back of
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the pamphlet. I was very hesitant. Yeah, and and using that number.
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And why is that? So Ashamed? I mean, how how do
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I call and say hey, I
was I'm the girl that was going to
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kill her baby, you know,
like God was. I was ashamed.
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I was really embarrassed, Uh Huh, but I'm so glad that I did
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call you. Yeah, and that
what a great idea, you putting your
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number back there, by the way. Yeah, yeah, that's something we
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encourage all of the the folks that
we train to do sidewalk ministry, whether
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it be our volunteers here locally or
the sidewalk missionaries that were raising up Nashally,
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is to have some kind of personal
contact number, because there are many
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women like yourself that would take a
piece of literature and going on into the
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parking lot and maybe choose life or
maybe take a piece of literature and keep
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driving. But we don't really know
some of the needs that they have.
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That let mean we've got, thank
God, so many resources to help meet
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these knees and we want to meet
those needs. But so many would just
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take a piece of literature. And
so to have a personal contact number on
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there, and we are intentional about
it being handwritten to so that you know
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there's there's personal contacts, not just
some print out, even though print ounce
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are great, right, but it's
a personal contact number. Now for some
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folks who may be thinking, well, I want to put my contact number
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on a piece of literature because I
don't want it just going out to everybody.
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Maybe get a google voice number or
some other number. That's not your
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number, Vicky. You put your
personal number there. That's kind of risky,
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but it's paid off, especially in
is he store. But I mean
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you have moms that text you so
all the time. I get calls off
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the time. It calls from moms
that are seeking help. But I'm wondering
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to see why why you waited so
long to call be and why did you
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call so you waited, maybe out
of the embarrassment not knowing who I am.
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I'm a stranger you. So,
but what what finally made you call?
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What was going on? I thought
that I had to give you the
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credit that you deserved. I wanted
to let you know that, because you
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were standing out there and you gave
me this literature, that that I had
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in fact chosen life for my baby
and I wanted to see. I was
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kind of, I guess, looking
for a friend, looking for someone that
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I can talk to, that could
maybe understand the situation I was in,
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and I wasn't expecting to be as
blessed as I was by it either.
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Yeah, yeah, it's good you
say that. Expound on that a little
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bit. So when you reached out
to Vicki, you are more the motivation
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was just hey, thank you for
being out there. You felt kind of
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almost like, I don't know,
beholding to her because she helps you to
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use life just with that literature.
But it became more than just hey,
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thank you, see you later.
It became a relationship, and not just
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a relationship with Vicki, but a
relationship with a church here in Charlotte,
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right, right, right, Vicky's. I love her so much. She
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is so easy to talk to.
She connected me to a mentor and also
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connected me to the body of Christ. She gave me so many phone numbers
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with different resources for job placement,
schooling, like you name it, we
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had it and I'm very grateful for
that. My mentor celebrated us with an
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amazing babys hour. I told Vickid
the other day, I texted her I
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still have books and toys that Nazi
can't use until she's five years old.
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That's amazing. I mean, yeah, I hadn't for diapers for like a
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whole year, and by diapers at
all, like, yeah, we got
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everything, from crabs. I mean
there's so many things that that we received
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that I wasn't expecting to be as
blessed as we were. Really, we're
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blessed in so many ways. Yeah, and you're still in touch with that
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mentor, Right, she's come come
up friends, right. Yeah, so
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that was a mentor. I Mentor
Three Love Life, Charlotte, who helped
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you, helped to provide resources and
became a good friend. Yes, yeah,
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yeah, now, one of the
things that I think is is pretty
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cool. By God's grace, we
see, I mean not enough, but
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praise God enough moms choose life,
if you know what I mean. I
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mean when one baby killed through abortionist
too many, and every life saved is
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a tremendous blessing and we so we
see on a regular basis moms choose life.
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We praise God for that, but
it's not very often that we see
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a mom who chose life actually bring
her baby out to the abortion center.
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And it seems like you, you're
pretty intentional. Every time you're in town.
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You're still back and forth to New
York some right with with family and
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all of that. You come and
visit and it's like you're intentional about stopping
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by and encouraging us and bringing a
little nazy always. What does it feel
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like by yeah, what does it
feel like to know that, okay,
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one time you were in that abortion
center, you're about to take the life
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of your baby, but now here
you are standing on the sidewalk and I've
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literally seen you. They're holding Nazi
and even reaching out there and even engaging
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with some of the pro abortion people. What's that feel like, just being
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there on the sidewalk? That's that's
only something God can do. Yeah,
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yeah, I love dropping by every
time we're in town and encouraging everyone out
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there and remind them that they're not
standing there in vain. I know that
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these pull choices are constantly attacking and
mocking them and telling them that they're not
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doing anything. In fact, the
last time that you were out there,
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which was recently, they told me
that we had paid you and that you
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were a plant that and I know
you poured out your heart to them whole
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showing them nasty and and there respons
yeah, yeah, that's insane. I
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mean, you guys didn't even know
I was in town. No, I
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popped up on you guys when you
were training, I think you were training
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those. That was correct. Yeah, you turn around, you saw I
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mean you're like, Hey, what
are you doing here? You guys had
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no idea. How wasn't town and
well, apparently we planted you to convince
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people that that that we tell the
truth as a liar, right. Yeah,
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yeah, I mean I think that's
been a pretty common theme in many
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of the stories, and especially your
story, is that God is good,
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but the devil is a liar.
The devil uses all kinds of people,
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all kinds of just manipulation of these
ideas, just simply, like you said,
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that it's just a Blob of tissue
or club of sales, and the
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devil influences women to go into abortion
clinics, take the lives of their babies,
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believe in the lie that's a Blob
of tissue or clump of cells.
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He uses that same line to thank
yeah, he uses that same lie to
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fuel the abortion industry and the people
that are working behind the desk, the
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pro abortion people that are standing out
front just being vile, just this this
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whole lie that it's just a blob
of tissue or clump of cells. But
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is you? We know better.
You got your you got your Blob of
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tissue, your clump of sales in
the back seat. There, Miss Nazi,
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that's who just your tremendous blessing.
Talk a little bit about what God
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has done in your life through through
her being in your life. So,
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because of Nazi, I blessed with
the Gift of Motherhood. I stopped partying,
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I stopped smoking, and it led
me, because of you guys,
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introducing me to the body of Christ
all over again. I am and I
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was clear headed from not doing drugs
and smoking, and glad God had cleansed
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me on the inside so that my
baby can have a healthy womb to grow
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in. Yeah, she she has
been such a tremendous blessing and she has
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literally just changed me. Yeah,
she has changed me and I'm I feel
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like I'm a better me because of
her and, of course, to God
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the glory pers and foremost, and
I'm so thankful to you guys who for
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being out there and standing in the
gap. Yeah, I wanted to ask
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you about that. I think your
relationship with God did change from a moment,
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from the moment that you made that
choice for life. You returned to
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the same circumstances, the same worries, the same fears, the same guy,
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the same just moving there six months
ago and now you're pregnant with not
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quite knowing how you're going to manage. But something changed in you when you
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made that choice to follow God,
which really is what that was. That
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choice to have your baby was the
choice. So how has your relationship with
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God changed and developed since that moment? Oh, well, it has not
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been easy. When we give our
lives to Christ, a lot of us
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think that it's going to be easy
and it's not. I feel like I'm
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I've actually been attacked more than I
used to when I was in the world.
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But it is a narrow path and
I understand why. You know,
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Shelly Baptize me. Yeah, and
Shelly. Just just for the people that
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are listening that may not know,
shelley was and and still helps with appointing
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mentors to MOMS who choose life,
and so she knew you from very early
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on and was a very good friend
from the beginning and helpful. She connected
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me to my mentor and contecttion to
correct yeah, and she baptized me.
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Actually got baptized on the day of
Pentecost. Yeah, made thirty one and
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this, this walk with Gadya,
has definitely not been easy, but it's
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worth it. Yeah, and I'm
seeing his hand move in a tremendous way,
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especially the way times are now,
these days. We are, I
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do believe that we are living in
the last days. Yeah, and you
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know, those who are standing in
the gap for these babies are under massive
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attack in the spirit realm because about
it. That says modern day were sacrifices
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to moloch. Oh, yeah,
definitely is. Yeah, totally agree with
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you there. Yeah, yeah,
the pasture a couple of days ago,
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just talking to me about that very
that very point and just kind of the
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view. You know, you look
at Israel back in the days of the
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prophets and how they'd rebelled against God
and sacrifice their children to Molich and to
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bail and God judged the children of
Israel because of that. What we're seeing
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in this day and age is not
too much different. And when we have
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the high places, these abortion clinics, people are going and they may not
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be directly sacrificing to to molech or
to bail or two demons, but they're
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certainly sacrificing to the college education,
their boyfriend there, whatever relationship. They're
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trying to maintain their status quo.
Now some are sacrificing to demons and making
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I mean we've certainly seen some of
that. It's some of our facebook interactions
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and some of our reviews on our
podcast where these people are just blatantly Satan
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worshippers. But mostly in America the
Satan worship is kind of under the you
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knows, under the radar whatever,
but it's still darkness, it's still the
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spirit of death. Nonetheless, yeah, it's and that's a reality that that
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many Christians don't really understand. We
were made for battle. Battle is not
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fun, it's not easy, but
we were made for battle. And so,
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as we kind of wrap this up, all you guys who are involved
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on the sidewalk, all of you
guys who are praying about getting involved on
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the sidewalk, now is the time
for the church to rise up. Now
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is the time for us to stand
and boldly proclaim who Jesus is. His
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Standard of truth, not the world
standard of truth, but God standard of
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truth, and God's word does not
return void. You're hearing that with is
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he and what God did in her
life, there are women all over these
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United States and all over the world
who are believing some of the same lies
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that she believed and they're going into
abortion clinics all across this nation. They're
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under this spirit of delusion and darkness
and they're going to sacrifice their children to
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these false gods, these false ideas, and someone needs to stand in the
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gap. WHO's called to do that? It's not politicians, it's not not
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the Supreme Court, is not the
Supreme Corp Donald Trump's not going to fix
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this problem. Joe Biden certainly is
not going to fix this problem. It
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is the Church of Jesus Christ that
is called to stand in the gap,
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and so I want to encourage you
guys. Some of you are still dragging
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your feet. You've been listening to
this podcast for a while and you've been
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praying. I want to get involved
and listen to this podcast because, after
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all, these people are doing a
great work. Well, it's not us,
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it's actually the Holy Spirit, and
if you're a Christian, you've got
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him in you. You've got the
Holy Spirit in you, and what you
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say, what you do, the
literature that you hand out, the relationships
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that you that you offer and that
you build out there on the sidewalk are
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going to bear fruit for the Lord. Now, like like is he said.
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It's not easy, right, no
one's believing the lie. That soon
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is is he chose life, that
her whole life became just a bed of
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roses. And is easy, though. It was a battle, but it
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was a battle where the Lord fights
with you. The Lord is fighting on
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our side. When we take up
that shield of faith, we will the
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sword of the spirit. The Lord
is fighting alongside us. So is he.
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I appreciate you so much just sharing
your testimony. Appreciate you just sharing
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the the encouragement that you shared massively
encouraging to me and, I note,
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to Vicky. Always has been,
is it? You're very unusual and and
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biblical in a sense, and that
of the ten lepers that were healed,
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nine happily went on their way,
rejoicing, but not turning around to thank
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God and to thank the one who
had healed them. But you do.
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You consistently turn around over and over
and over again to say thank you,
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and it means so much to us. You invariably do it on a very
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dark day when we sorely need some
encouragement. God seems to always send you
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it just the right moment. Yeah, so it. That has been why,
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for me, is he is just
one of my favorites, always will
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be. Just has so much gratitude
in her heart, and I think that
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that is evidence of a heart that
has been truly transformed by our Savior.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so
easy. Again, we thank you for
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coming on and sharing with us,
and with that I want to wrap this
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thing up. So I guess we
love you guys so much and we're so
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grateful for you and everything you guys
do. Yeah, always remember it's not
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in vain. Anyone listening? It's
not in vain. Amen. Amen,
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thank you so, sir. So
with that, guys, we appreciate you
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listening again, as we started out, we'd love for you guys to leave
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us a review on itunes. We'd
love for you guys to share this podcast
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whether the other folks you think would
be blessed by it. Shoot over ideas
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that you might have for a future
podcasts for us, and we'd certainly love
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to put those ideas into a podcast. If you have questions, maybe you
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have just some questions about going out
to the sidewalk. Maybe you have questions
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about how to get equipped and how
to get involved. We'd certainly love to
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help you to do that and point
you in the right direction. So you
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can reach out to me. D
Parks Cities for Lifecom, you can reach
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out to hurt vcssi Oreg at cities
for lifecom. But until next time,
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God bless give me our love for
love, give me our loft for gratitude.
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I know it will cost me my
life. Nothing's too precious. And
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some met you