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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me,
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Lord, I am yours. Welcome
to the Gospel Center pro life podcast.
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Can you believe that just one pro
life brochure can save a life?
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And this episode we do an interview
with Izzy who's babies life was safe just
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because someone got a brochure in her
hands. Stay tuned. I felt show
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Passi touch your heart. Use Welcome
to the Gospel Center pro life podcast.
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Appreciate you guys listening. Appreciate you
guys joining us in this podcast. We'd
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appreciate if you guys would share this
podcast and leave us a review. We've
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got a lot of as we shared
on the last podcast, a lot of
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pretty stay interesting reviews from pro abortion
people who don't particularly like what we do.
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But that's okay. We were able
to share some of those reviews and
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hope that was a blessing you guys. But we've got a special guest today
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in this podcast. We think this
really will be a blessing to you guys.
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This is a mom that chose life
back in two thousand and eighteen who's
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just been a blessing to the ministry. Is he and she's joining us on
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zoom. Of course you guys can't
see her, but you'll you'll hear her.
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So if the autos audios a little
choppy, that might be why.
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But hopefully it'll be good quality for
you guys to listen and hopefully this interview
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will be a blessing to you guys. And these interviews are designed not just
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to show how great of a ministry
we have, although we think it is
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great, but it's to equip you
guys. Maybe there's some things, some
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mistakes we made in reaching is he
things we could have done better and she's
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going to share with us. Maybe
things we could have done better, maybe
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things we did perfectly. I don't
know. But either way we want you
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guys to just be equipped and so
sometimes you can learn from other people's experiences
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and we can certainly learn from the
perspective of a mom who came to an
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abortion center. That's always helpful,
because perspective is often times massively helpful for
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us to just connect with a heart
of someone who maybe we have never been
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in their shoes before. So so
is he's with us today. She's got
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her little girl, Nazi in the
back seat asleep and hopefully she'll stay asleep
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for this interview, but yeah,
so is he. Just introduce yourself real
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quick and and then we'll get into
just sharing some of your story, some
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of your background and what ultimately brought
you to the abortion center and then,
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ultimately, what turns you away.
So, hi, I'm is he.
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Thank you, guys, for having
us on your show. It's a blessing
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to have met you, guys.
Yeah, it's a blessing to know you
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isy. You've been a real blessing
to our ministry for very special woman.
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Thank you, guys. Are Very
special to us too. I grew up
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in New York City. I was
I grew up in the Bronx. When
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I was eleven, my parents got
divorced. They both got into newish relationships
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almost immediately. I had moved in
with my mom and, you know,
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she would go out with her partner. I would be home alone on the
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weekends and I had lots of freedom. I made friends from the neighborhood who
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were a lot older than me.
I started smoking pot. Eventually I dropped
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out of school and I just went
downhill from there. HMM. I have
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seen God's hands deliver me time and
time again, even while I was in
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sin. Yeah, you see,
the seed was planted in me at a
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young age. I have family who
passtor, a church in the Bronx and
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which I was actually dedicated by my
uncle through marriage there in that church.
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My father wound up going to prison. My mom and I unfortunately never had
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a good relationship. It's now work
in progress and I'm praying to God that
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he will restore our relationship. Yeah, Amen, I know. I knew
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that I needed a drastic change and
I had no idea what to start.
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Now I have a childhood friend.
It's pretty funny because I actually met her
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at this same church where I had
told you that I was dedicated to gotta,
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and she's been living in North Carolina
for quite some time now and she's
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been trying to convince me to move
here for the long guess, and I
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never took her up on it until
then. Yeah, she tells me she
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has a job for me here,
but I had to stop smoking. I
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had never stopped smoking weed before.
Like I could have headaches of cold,
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I could be dying and I would
never stop smoking. Yeah, I'd always
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smoke. So this I didn't know
how I was going to pull it off,
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but God right. Yeah, I
prayed a guy for his assistance and
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on April nineteen, two thousand and
seventeen, that morning I didn't smoke and
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then I didn't smoke for the entire
day and I had no idea how I
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was going to pull this off.
And I'm I just want to stay the
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fun fact. For those that that
are familiar with for and twenty, it's
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National Weed Smoking holiday. Yeah,
April twenty, so just a day before
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was my first day that I hadn't
smoked. Wow, that's just God showing
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off. Yeah, I'm like,
so how am I going to pull this
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off? I get a call from
a buddy of mine who I actually used
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to play golf with and he invites
me to Florida to play golf that upcoming
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weekend. This gentleman is actually a
recovered attict and his field of work was
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helping people get off a drugs.
Okay, this man had no idea what
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I was going through at that time
when he invited me to go out and
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to Florida to this golf outing with
him. So that was another God moment.
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Yeah, I was getting cravings here
and there, but I I was
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distracted, you know, playing golf
and I wasn't thinking about it. On
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our way back, I start sweating, I'm getting withdrawals and I'm even feeling
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suicidal and Lucky for me, I'm
thirty threezero feet in the air. Yeah,
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so now I'm I'm desperate and I'm
in my head and I'm like,
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okay, I'm going to make all
the changes, all the necessary arrangements that
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I need to move to Charlotte.
So I call my friend and I tell
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her I'm ready to go. So
I mail my stuff down south and my
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my friend had a job for me
here and God is just helping me in
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a supernatural way. So at that
point you're you're trying to get away from
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the old friends and the culture that
you were kind of member style. Yeah,
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yeah, absolutely. So it's like
there's this open door to come to
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North Carolina and and ultimately you kind
of check all the boxes that you need
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to check and your bags are packed
in your headed this way. That's it.
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That's exactly what happened. So I
get to North Carolina and I start
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working with my friend. Then I
pick up another job. Eventually I'm working
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three jobs and I'm back down to
two and I get transferred from my first
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job to another location and now I
meet at this new location, I meet
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my daughter's father. Okay, so
I'm new here. He's, you know,
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taking me out. We are,
he's showing me around town and we,
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I mean we pretty much hit it
off. And come November I find
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out that I'm pregnant. Mind you, sorry, I had moved here on
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May seventh of two thousand and seventeen, so that was only six months that
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I had been here in Charlotte and
here I am pregnant. So just imagine
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the desperation, like I had just
left New York behind to start a clean
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slate. I come here and I'm
just on to get my feet went get
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established, and now I'm pregnant.
Yeah, with the guy that I barely
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even know. Yeah, so I
run to the abortion clinic and I meet
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you, wonderful people offering US help
and hope and, best of all,
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Jesus. Yeah, which the father
of the baby pushing you for the abortion,
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did even know about the baby.
Um, we had both decided that
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it was in fact, very soon. He has three other children, so
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you know, our daughters his fourth. So there was definitely some pressure there,
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but at the end he was very
supportive like once we were in the
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abortion clinic and he you know,
I broke down in tears, you know,
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reading this pamphlet and he knows of
God to so I know that he
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was also convicted. Yeah, so
just to help other folks who are who
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are listening, who are maybe out
of an abortion center or praying about going
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out to an abortion center, walk
us through real quick maybe even from making
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the appointment to showing up for the
appointment and kind of what the scene was
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when you actually showed up, maybe
some of the things that when you made
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the appointment that they told you,
and just kind of set that stage for
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folks that are listening, if you
can. Well, when I called,
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it's actually pretty interesting because there was
sometimes when I had I had gotten cold
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feet. I got it I was
gonna have my baby, I was going
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to get an abortion, and I
was kind of pink punting back and forth
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from that and I try to make
a prenatal appointment and it was so much
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harder to make a set of prenatial
appointment then it was to set an abortion,
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to get an appointment to get an
abortion. And so when I called
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them and they asked me to just
bring my ID and four hundred dollars and
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that's all I would need to me
my appointment. I came in and the
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place was congested. There was nowhere
to sit. They had this movie on
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and like the girls are just watching
TV and laughing and I just couldn't believe
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it. As a matter of fact, it was a girl there who must
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have been at least six months pregnant. Her stomach was huge. Yeah,
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yeah, and that's the I mean, it's interesting that you say that.
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I could some normal thing as I'll
say. It's interesting that you say that
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about the the ease of making the
appointment as opposed to the difficulty of making
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an appointment to an Obie doctor.
It's like, you know, it's you
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can just call up on the phone
now, yeah, we'll take you,
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will take you, just bring your
four hundred dollars in your ID. You
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try to make an OB appointment.
Sometimes that can be a pretty difficult pass
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away. Two months. Yeah,
that's a shame. Did they do any
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kind of counseling over the post?
I couldn't believe it. Did they counsel
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you, I mean the abortion center? Did they counsel you over the phone
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or anything like that? Part of
you showing up? No, no,
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not at all. It was like, yeah, I did just come in.
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Okay, can you come in in
the morning? We have an opening
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in the morning. And that was
it. It's almost like if I was
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ordering food from Doordet. Yeah,
wow, yeah, and so you were
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talking about kind of how it was
when actually you came into the abortion center.
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You said it was it was packed
inside of there. There was a
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young lady in there. That was
you said. She was looked like she
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was six months pregnant. Kind of
continue on that vein and just share kind
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of what it was like in there. There was nowhere to sit. These
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girls were just glue to the TV. I couldn't believe it, you know,
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like we're killing our babies, babies
right now. Their hearts are beating
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inside of us. They're feeding off
of whatever we ate this morning or you
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know, and and here they are, they're watching this movie and they're just
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laughing and and it's like nothing.
The girls are they work there, are
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just answering phones and make an appointments
and just chilling their gum and blowing bubbles
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with, you know, blowing bubbles
with they're going. It's absolutely normal.
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It's just normal. It's kind of
like it's another day, a nonchalant kind
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of atmosphere, like, just like
you said, another day at the office,
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right. And how did that kind
of strike you? I mean,
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obviously it struck you as odd and
as troubling, but what were what was
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going on in your heart that time? You're in this waiting room full of
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people you've sense because you've known the
Lord, and so you're sensing some of
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the darkness. I'm sure that's inside
of that place. fact, what's going
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through your mom what's going through your
heart at that moment when you're sitting in
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that waiting room and you're still going
back and forth whether or not you should
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go through with the abortion? Right. So now I'm in the abort and
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the abortion clinic and I have this
pamphlet in my hand and I'm leading through
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it. I'm now explain that big
and by the whole spring that pamphlet for
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a second is see, because I'm
not sure, or maybe I missed it,
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but where and how did you get
that pamphlet? So, this pamphlet.
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When we drove into the abortion clinic, they were amazing people standing outside,
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angels of God that were offering us
help, leading with us not to
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kill our babies. And I received
this pamphlet from one of the sidewalk counselors.
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Okay, and I did in fact
bring this pamphlet inside with me and
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they didn't say didn't try to grab
it or anything. They didn't even see
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it. It was like invisible to
them. It was a spiritual thing.
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I honestly, it's a supernatural thing. They did not see it and I
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bought it in with me. I
began to skim through it and I saw
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the pictures, I read the Scripture
on there and then I saw a picture
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of an aborted fetus in the back
of the book and if I'm not mistaken,
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and said that that baby was eight
weeks. Oh, and I was
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fourteen weeks pregnant. Well, I
mean my daughter was was pretty much formed.
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Yeah, already. You know,
I had I had heard that,
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you know, they're just cells,
that they don't feel anything. And so,
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do you know? I believe the
lies and I'm like, okay,
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well, they're not going to feel
anything and I I can't have this baby
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right now. I'm not ready and
and the devil is a liar. Yeah,
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I meant one of the moms that
I'm sorry, not a mom.
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She she was an employee at Planing
parenthood and she gave a testimony which she
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said in this stood with me,
that went a mom was sedated and they
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had to perform use the ultrasound to
locate the baby before they performed the abortion
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and that she saw that the baby
was fighting for its life and trying to
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grab onto its mom and that that
just that just stood with me. I've
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never forgotten those words. Yeah,
so this is an important point for folks
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who are listening to this podcast again, who are out there on the side
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walks are praying about going out at
their local abortion center. What is he
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as sharing is is pretty powerful,
but it pretty basic in that what really
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helped change her mind was a piece
of literature. Yeah, and as actually
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it was vicky that got that piece
of literature. To use that correct that's
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yeah, and so it because we
might think, people tend to think like
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well, I've got to be like
I've got to have all the answers,
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I've got to have all the stuff
figured out, I've got to say everything
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just right, I've got a whatever, whatever people are using as fear and
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reasons why they might not go out
and minister at an abortion center when,
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in this case, your baby was
saved because somebody handed you or slipped a
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piece of literature in your vehicle and
in God use that piece of literature.
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Vickie didn't really particularly say a word
herself, but that literature spoke volumes,
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is what I'm hearing you say.
That's right. Yes, and prayer,
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prayer, Yeah. So one of
the things the Bible says, and it's
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an important truth that we all need
to, as children of God, understand
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and allow it to minister to us. Where Paul talks about he plants a
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seed, a police comes along,
as and waters, but God gives the
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increase. Right. So you had
some seeds planted in you pretty early,
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you said, eleven years old.
Even before that you were raised in church.
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So there's these seeds that are planted. They obviously had not, had
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not grown up into what God intended, because you ultimately fall into the kind
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of drug lifestyle and just turned away
from the Lord. And yet those seeds
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were still there. And what happened
really it's just far as what I'm hearing
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is when Vicki gave you that piece
of literature, that was just pouring water
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on that seat have been planted some
years ago, but Vicki pour some water
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on that seed and here it is. This seed is growing and growing and
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growing. Ultimately, that see growing
in your heart translated into your precious little
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girl being safe. So talk a
little bit about that. So you've have
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the literature, you're reading through it. You see that powerful image, and
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there's some images in that booklet of
babies in the womb, but also that
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powerful image in the back of the
booklet, which is a baby that's a
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victim of abortion, and you see
that the horror of what you're about to
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do in the whole blob of tissue, clump of cells, that whole lie
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that people use, that's just right, dispelled. That darkness is has been
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dispelled by the light of truth.
What happens after that point, though?
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You see that you know that I
can't do this. Do you leave immediately
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or how's that? How's that scenario? R and and I tell my daughter's
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father that I just can't. I
look at him and I like, I
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can't do that, I just can't, and he's like so let's go.
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And I there was a line of
girls waiting to be to check in,
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I guess for their appointment. Yeah, and I'm like, excuse me,
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and I got in front of the
person who was in front of the line
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and I asked a girl from ID
and she just she's like what's what's wrong?
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You will right, and I'm like
I just I just can't do this.
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And she try to tell I remember
her saying, Oh, come on,
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girl, like like it's nothing,
wow, like oh, it's fine,
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oh, I don't worry about it, it's nothing. Like. But
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they were so busy, like if, maybe, if they wouldn't have been
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so many people there in the phones
wouldn't have been ringing off the hook,
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they probably would have tried to stop
me, yeah, to talk me into
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into going through with the abortion.
Yeah, it sounds like they were starting
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to do that, right. They
that's what they were trying to do.
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I called that vibe from her.
I did, because she was being very
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hesitant, and given me my license
and you and I grabbed my license and
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we were out of there. Yeah, and we drove right past you guys.
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Yeah, how I wish that I
would have said something to you guys
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then. But yeah, what was
going through your mind? Just that you
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just wanted to get out of there
as fast as possible. Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah, felt such a desperation.
Yeah, yeah, was there a
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sense of any I know because we've
talked to thousands of women going into abortion
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centers and so we know there's there's
this fight of potential regret, but also
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relief of maybe having the abortion.
But where's there when you left that abortion
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center? was there a sense of
relief or maybe a sense of Gret?
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Regret, or maybe a little bit
of both? What was the what was
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the feeling driving down the road?
Honestly, a little bit of both at
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the time. Yeah, I remember
I had just been here six months.
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I really didn't know this guy and
I knew, and I don't want to
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say that, but I felt that
there was going to be some kind of
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hinderance. Yeah, you know,
but she she us truly a blessing.
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Yeah, to me she really is. She has saved me. Yeah.
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So I want to again folks that
are listening who are going out to their
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abortion center and maybe not yet going
out when you guys can understand kind of
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the scenario who in this this actually
plays out a lot more than we think,
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because we might tend to think,
okay, a mom choose us live,
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so she's of course going to walk
over to the sidewalk or she's going
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to stop in the driveway and let
us know. That was not necessarily the
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case. That was not the case
for you. It's not necessarily the case
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for many of the moms that choose
life. There's stories that I think we're
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not going to find out about until
we stand before the Lord and the Lord
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shows us these babies that were saved. And I can say this for you,
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is he, and and for your
daughter Nazi. You guys have been
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on kind of a national platform and
shared your testimony and still continuing to share
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your testimony and even sharing on social
media. There's going to be babies that
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are saved, is he, that
you won't find out about right until you
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stand before the Lord, that were
saved because you shared your testimony, because
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of this podcast, even right now. Yeah, I mean this is an
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equipping podcast. It helps equip Christians
and people are going to be really encouraged.
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People, the boldness of God is
going to rise up in people that
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are listening to this podcast that they
can actually go and they can stand and
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they can hand out literature and babies
are going to be saved just through you
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sharing this this testimony right, and
they can also not be dismayed when they
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don't see any visible fruit. Because
we didn't know that day. In fact,
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as I recall, it was at
least several weeks or maybe months later
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that you did call me, because
we put our number right, yeah,
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on the back of the so you
had my number and my name and sometime
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later you decided to call. Yes, your number was in the back of
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the pamphlet. I was very hesitant. Yeah, and and using that number.
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And why is that? So Ashamed? I mean, how how do
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I call and say hey, I
was I'm the girl that was going to
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kill her baby, you know,
like God was. I was ashamed.
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I was really embarrassed, Uh Huh, but I'm so glad that I did
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call you. Yeah, and that
what a great idea, you putting your
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number back there, by the way. Yeah, yeah, that's something we
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encourage all of the the folks that
we train to do sidewalk ministry, whether
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it be our volunteers here locally or
the sidewalk missionaries that were raising up Nashally,
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is to have some kind of personal
contact number, because there are many
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women like yourself that would take a
piece of literature and going on into the
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parking lot and maybe choose life or
maybe take a piece of literature and keep
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driving. But we don't really know
some of the needs that they have.
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That let mean we've got, thank
God, so many resources to help meet
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these knees and we want to meet
those needs. But so many would just
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take a piece of literature. And
so to have a personal contact number on
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there, and we are intentional about
it being handwritten to so that you know
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there's there's personal contacts, not just
some print out, even though print ounce
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are great, right, but it's
a personal contact number. Now for some
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folks who may be thinking, well, I want to put my contact number
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on a piece of literature because I
don't want it just going out to everybody.
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Maybe get a google voice number or
some other number. That's not your
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number, Vicky. You put your
personal number there. That's kind of risky,
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but it's paid off, especially in
is he store. But I mean
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you have moms that text you so
all the time. I get calls off
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the time. It calls from moms
that are seeking help. But I'm wondering
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to see why why you waited so
long to call be and why did you
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call so you waited, maybe out
of the embarrassment not knowing who I am.
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I'm a stranger you. So,
but what what finally made you call?
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What was going on? I thought
that I had to give you the
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credit that you deserved. I wanted
to let you know that, because you
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were standing out there and you gave
me this literature, that that I had
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in fact chosen life for my baby
and I wanted to see. I was
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kind of, I guess, looking
for a friend, looking for someone that
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I can talk to, that could
maybe understand the situation I was in,
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and I wasn't expecting to be as
blessed as I was by it either.
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Yeah, yeah, it's good you
say that. Expound on that a little
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bit. So when you reached out
to Vicki, you are more the motivation
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was just hey, thank you for
being out there. You felt kind of
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almost like, I don't know,
beholding to her because she helps you to
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use life just with that literature.
But it became more than just hey,
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thank you, see you later.
It became a relationship, and not just
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a relationship with Vicki, but a
relationship with a church here in Charlotte,
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right, right, right, Vicky's. I love her so much. She
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is so easy to talk to.
She connected me to a mentor and also
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connected me to the body of Christ. She gave me so many phone numbers
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with different resources for job placement,
schooling, like you name it, we
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had it and I'm very grateful for
that. My mentor celebrated us with an
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amazing babys hour. I told Vickid
the other day, I texted her I
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still have books and toys that Nazi
can't use until she's five years old.
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That's amazing. I mean, yeah, I hadn't for diapers for like a
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whole year, and by diapers at
all, like, yeah, we got
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everything, from crabs. I mean
there's so many things that that we received
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that I wasn't expecting to be as
blessed as we were. Really, we're
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blessed in so many ways. Yeah, and you're still in touch with that
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mentor, Right, she's come come
up friends, right. Yeah, so
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that was a mentor. I Mentor
Three Love Life, Charlotte, who helped
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you, helped to provide resources and
became a good friend. Yes, yeah,
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yeah, now, one of the
things that I think is is pretty
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cool. By God's grace, we
see, I mean not enough, but
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praise God enough moms choose life,
if you know what I mean. I
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mean when one baby killed through abortionist
too many, and every life saved is
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a tremendous blessing and we so we
see on a regular basis moms choose life.
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We praise God for that, but
it's not very often that we see
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a mom who chose life actually bring
her baby out to the abortion center.
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And it seems like you, you're
pretty intentional. Every time you're in town.
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You're still back and forth to New
York some right with with family and
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all of that. You come and
visit and it's like you're intentional about stopping
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by and encouraging us and bringing a
little nazy always. What does it feel
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like by yeah, what does it
feel like to know that, okay,
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one time you were in that abortion
center, you're about to take the life
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of your baby, but now here
you are standing on the sidewalk and I've
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literally seen you. They're holding Nazi
and even reaching out there and even engaging
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with some of the pro abortion people. What's that feel like, just being
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there on the sidewalk? That's that's
only something God can do. Yeah,
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yeah, I love dropping by every
time we're in town and encouraging everyone out
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there and remind them that they're not
standing there in vain. I know that
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these pull choices are constantly attacking and
mocking them and telling them that they're not
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doing anything. In fact, the
last time that you were out there,
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which was recently, they told me
that we had paid you and that you
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were a plant that and I know
you poured out your heart to them whole
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showing them nasty and and there respons
yeah, yeah, that's insane. I
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mean, you guys didn't even know
I was in town. No, I
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popped up on you guys when you
were training, I think you were training
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those. That was correct. Yeah, you turn around, you saw I
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mean you're like, Hey, what
are you doing here? You guys had
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no idea. How wasn't town and
well, apparently we planted you to convince
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people that that that we tell the
truth as a liar, right. Yeah,
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yeah, I mean I think that's
been a pretty common theme in many
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of the stories, and especially your
story, is that God is good,
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but the devil is a liar.
The devil uses all kinds of people,
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all kinds of just manipulation of these
ideas, just simply, like you said,
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that it's just a Blob of tissue
or club of sales, and the
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devil influences women to go into abortion
clinics, take the lives of their babies,
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believe in the lie that's a Blob
of tissue or clump of cells.
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He uses that same line to thank
yeah, he uses that same lie to
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fuel the abortion industry and the people
that are working behind the desk, the
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pro abortion people that are standing out
front just being vile, just this this
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whole lie that it's just a blob
of tissue or clump of cells. But
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is you? We know better.
You got your you got your Blob of
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tissue, your clump of sales in
the back seat. There, Miss Nazi,
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that's who just your tremendous blessing.
Talk a little bit about what God
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has done in your life through through
her being in your life. So,
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because of Nazi, I blessed with
the Gift of Motherhood. I stopped partying,
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I stopped smoking, and it led
me, because of you guys,
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introducing me to the body of Christ
all over again. I am and I
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was clear headed from not doing drugs
and smoking, and glad God had cleansed
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me on the inside so that my
baby can have a healthy womb to grow
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in. Yeah, she she has
been such a tremendous blessing and she has
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literally just changed me. Yeah,
she has changed me and I'm I feel
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like I'm a better me because of
her and, of course, to God
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the glory pers and foremost, and
I'm so thankful to you guys who for
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being out there and standing in the
gap. Yeah, I wanted to ask
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you about that. I think your
relationship with God did change from a moment,
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from the moment that you made that
choice for life. You returned to
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the same circumstances, the same worries, the same fears, the same guy,
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the same just moving there six months
ago and now you're pregnant with not
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quite knowing how you're going to manage. But something changed in you when you
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made that choice to follow God,
which really is what that was. That
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choice to have your baby was the
choice. So how has your relationship with
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God changed and developed since that moment? Oh, well, it has not
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been easy. When we give our
lives to Christ, a lot of us
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think that it's going to be easy
and it's not. I feel like I'm
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I've actually been attacked more than I
used to when I was in the world.
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But it is a narrow path and
I understand why. You know,
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Shelly Baptize me. Yeah, and
Shelly. Just just for the people that
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are listening that may not know,
shelley was and and still helps with appointing
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mentors to MOMS who choose life,
and so she knew you from very early
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on and was a very good friend
from the beginning and helpful. She connected
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me to my mentor and contecttion to
correct yeah, and she baptized me.
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Actually got baptized on the day of
Pentecost. Yeah, made thirty one and
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this, this walk with Gadya,
has definitely not been easy, but it's
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worth it. Yeah, and I'm
seeing his hand move in a tremendous way,
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especially the way times are now,
these days. We are, I
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do believe that we are living in
the last days. Yeah, and you
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know, those who are standing in
the gap for these babies are under massive
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attack in the spirit realm because about
it. That says modern day were sacrifices
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to moloch. Oh, yeah,
definitely is. Yeah, totally agree with
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you there. Yeah, yeah,
the pasture a couple of days ago,
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just talking to me about that very
that very point and just kind of the
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view. You know, you look
at Israel back in the days of the
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prophets and how they'd rebelled against God
and sacrifice their children to Molich and to
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bail and God judged the children of
Israel because of that. What we're seeing
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in this day and age is not
too much different. And when we have
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the high places, these abortion clinics, people are going and they may not
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be directly sacrificing to to molech or
to bail or two demons, but they're
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certainly sacrificing to the college education,
their boyfriend there, whatever relationship. They're
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trying to maintain their status quo.
Now some are sacrificing to demons and making
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I mean we've certainly seen some of
that. It's some of our facebook interactions
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and some of our reviews on our
podcast where these people are just blatantly Satan
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worshippers. But mostly in America the
Satan worship is kind of under the you
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knows, under the radar whatever,
but it's still darkness, it's still the
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spirit of death. Nonetheless, yeah, it's and that's a reality that that
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many Christians don't really understand. We
were made for battle. Battle is not
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fun, it's not easy, but
we were made for battle. And so,
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as we kind of wrap this up, all you guys who are involved
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on the sidewalk, all of you
guys who are praying about getting involved on
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the sidewalk, now is the time
for the church to rise up. Now
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is the time for us to stand
and boldly proclaim who Jesus is. His
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Standard of truth, not the world
standard of truth, but God standard of
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truth, and God's word does not
return void. You're hearing that with is
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he and what God did in her
life, there are women all over these
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United States and all over the world
who are believing some of the same lies
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that she believed and they're going into
abortion clinics all across this nation. They're
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under this spirit of delusion and darkness
and they're going to sacrifice their children to
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these false gods, these false ideas, and someone needs to stand in the
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gap. WHO's called to do that? It's not politicians, it's not not
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the Supreme Court, is not the
Supreme Corp Donald Trump's not going to fix
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this problem. Joe Biden certainly is
not going to fix this problem. It
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is the Church of Jesus Christ that
is called to stand in the gap,
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and so I want to encourage you
guys. Some of you are still dragging
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your feet. You've been listening to
this podcast for a while and you've been
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praying. I want to get involved
and listen to this podcast because, after
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all, these people are doing a
great work. Well, it's not us,
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it's actually the Holy Spirit, and
if you're a Christian, you've got
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him in you. You've got the
Holy Spirit in you, and what you
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say, what you do, the
literature that you hand out, the relationships
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that you that you offer and that
you build out there on the sidewalk are
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going to bear fruit for the Lord. Now, like like is he said.
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It's not easy, right, no
one's believing the lie. That soon
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is is he chose life, that
her whole life became just a bed of
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roses. And is easy, though. It was a battle, but it
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was a battle where the Lord fights
with you. The Lord is fighting on
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our side. When we take up
that shield of faith, we will the
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sword of the spirit. The Lord
is fighting alongside us. So is he.
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I appreciate you so much just sharing
your testimony. Appreciate you just sharing
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the the encouragement that you shared massively
encouraging to me and, I note,
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to Vicky. Always has been,
is it? You're very unusual and and
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biblical in a sense, and that
of the ten lepers that were healed,
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nine happily went on their way,
rejoicing, but not turning around to thank
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God and to thank the one who
had healed them. But you do.
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You consistently turn around over and over
and over again to say thank you,
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and it means so much to us. You invariably do it on a very
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dark day when we sorely need some
encouragement. God seems to always send you
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it just the right moment. Yeah, so it. That has been why,
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for me, is he is just
one of my favorites, always will
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be. Just has so much gratitude
in her heart, and I think that
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that is evidence of a heart that
has been truly transformed by our Savior.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so
easy. Again, we thank you for
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coming on and sharing with us,
and with that I want to wrap this
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thing up. So I guess we
love you guys so much and we're so
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grateful for you and everything you guys
do. Yeah, always remember it's not
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in vain. Anyone listening? It's
not in vain. Amen. Amen,
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thank you so, sir. So
with that, guys, we appreciate you
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listening again, as we started out, we'd love for you guys to leave
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us a review on itunes. We'd
love for you guys to share this podcast
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whether the other folks you think would
be blessed by it. Shoot over ideas
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that you might have for a future
podcasts for us, and we'd certainly love
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to put those ideas into a podcast. If you have questions, maybe you
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have just some questions about going out
to the sidewalk. Maybe you have questions
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about how to get equipped and how
to get involved. We'd certainly love to
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help you to do that and point
you in the right direction. So you
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can reach out to me. D
Parks Cities for Lifecom, you can reach
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out to hurt vcssi Oreg at cities
for lifecom. But until next time,
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God bless give me our love for
love, give me our loft for gratitude.
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I know it will cost me my
life. Nothing's too precious. And
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some met you