Ministering At Abortion Pill Only Clinics

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.480 One young lady pulled over to the side of the road. She was just 2 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.240 going back and forth in her mind. What did I just do? And 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:09.240 then she remembered. She saw a sign all abortion polly ourscom. She pulls 4 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.880 over the side of the road, Google's IT, gets connected with the abortion 5 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:15.599 pill folks. They connect her with my wife. She ends up getting the 6 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.760 abortion polty reversal. Her babies now said babies. She was having twins. 7 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.320 Her babies lives were saved. I Am Yours, I am yours, I 8 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:31.440 am yours, and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. 9 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:36.039 I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Prey Life Podcast, a podcast designed to 10 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:41.600 equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were the focus 11 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:50.359 on the Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. 12 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:58.679 Use Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. As always, 13 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.719 we appreciate you guys, joining us with this podcast episode. My name is 14 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.560 Daniel Parks. I am the West Coast Regional Shepherd for love life, overseeing 15 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:11.560 our efforts on the west coast. I am joined with Vicky cassie Org say 16 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:17.000 hey Vicki hey everyone, and we co host this Podcast, the Gospel Center 17 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.560 pro life podcast, in an effort to encourage and equip those who are doing 18 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.200 ministry on the sidewalks at abortion centers. It's not all that love life does. 19 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.120 We do a lot of other things, but it's one of, I 20 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:32.280 believe, the most important aspects that were involved in reaching out there at those 21 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.959 last moments of that baby's life, pleading on behalf of that baby, with 22 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.439 that mother to choose life for her baby and with the fathers as well, 23 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.760 ministering the Gospel. I'll just encourage you guys with something that we've seen, 24 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.840 especially that I've been able to see on the west coast over the past couple 25 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:53.079 of months, is an increased in salvations and increases coming to the Lord. 26 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.920 Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, there was a week, just a couple 27 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.040 of weeks ago, where five people, that's amazing, surrender their life to 28 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:06.760 Jesus. Yeah, or near the abortion center. Now will say that it's 29 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.280 not all people going into the abortion center. Some of these abortion centers, 30 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.960 that a lot of abortion centers are on busy roads. Right latrobe over here 31 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:15.759 is not. It's kind of tucked away in a business park, but some 32 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:20.639 of these abortion centers in California, all across the United States, New York, 33 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.400 you know, you're just up there not long ago. You have passers 34 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.840 by, people that are coming by. Well, that's what's happening some in 35 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:30.319 southern California, people that are coming by. Trash guy comes to pick up 36 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.319 the trash from business behind the abortion center. Something team ministers him. Now, 37 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.680 we know our primary focus is the mom's going into the abortion center, 38 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.680 but if there's no one to engage with, why not share the Gospel with 39 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.520 the trash guy or whoever? You know, we we're creating a culture of 40 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:47.240 life. That's what I tell all of our councers as we're talking to people 41 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:52.599 going by that aren't our ministry. Obviously don't lose focus. Yeah, a 42 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.199 mom is there, but these other people. You are creating a culture of 43 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:59.039 life, which is the yeah, that is what we want to do. 44 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.159 We have love like the ministry. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So that's 45 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.759 just wanted to mention that because God's doing some amazing things. As Ministry is 46 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.960 not just, I'll say, just about saving babies. It's about proclaiming the 47 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:14.599 Gospel and we've done episodes about that. Will probably do more episodes about that. 48 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.280 That's not what this episode is about, though. This episode is talking 49 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:25.199 particularly about how to minister at abortion centers that only do the abortion pill. 50 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:30.199 Right. So the latrobe abortion center here that we're well acquainted with, that 51 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:34.520 we do ministry at on a regular basis. Our teams are here. They 52 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.599 do the abortion pill but also do surgical abortions up to twenty weeks. The 53 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.199 window of abortion center, I believe, all of the abortion center, not 54 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.879 a believe, I know all the abortion centers in Charlotte do both surgical abortions 55 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:51.159 and medical abortions or the abortion pill, and so we don't have that context 56 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.879 here in Charlotte, but we you and I and others have ministered at abortion 57 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.840 centers and we have teams all across the United States now that are ministering at 58 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:04.719 abortion centers that are kind of uniquely geared toward just doing the abortion pill. 59 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.199 And there's some challenges there. There's some challenges that are presented and so we 60 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.479 want to talk about those challenges and we want to talk about how to overcome 61 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.240 those challenges and, yeah, maybe even talk about some of the things that 62 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.040 are necessary for you to know. It's important that we know how the abortion 63 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.480 pill works. If you've attended any of our trainings. We talked about that 64 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.680 in our one, U two training and just kind of get into what the 65 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.160 Abord pill is if you listen to this podcast. Hopefully you listen to it. 66 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:36.199 We did two episodes, two separate episodes, about the abortion pill really 67 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:41.680 drill into what it's all about. My wife, who's an abortion party versial 68 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:45.839 nerves, did one of those episodes and then Dr Matt, who pioneer the 69 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:50.319 abortion pill reversal process here in Charlotte was, did another episode. who definitely 70 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:55.199 listen to those episodes. But this is going to be more how to minister 71 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.439 at these clinics. Right. But it is important that you know how the 72 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.959 abortion pill works, what the procedure is, and I really do want to 73 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.040 say this. I mentioned before we started recording. This is important to always 74 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:10.399 have to mention this every time because people are confused about this. Right. 75 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:15.519 The abortion pill and the morning after pill are two different things. They're not 76 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:21.639 the same thing. The morning after pill could be abortive. It's a medications, 77 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:27.079 actually just a bunch of birth control in a sense that a woman takes 78 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.120 if she had unprotected sex and doesn't want to get pregnant. It's primary function 79 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.800 is to keep her from getting pregnants, keep her from ovulating. I won't 80 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.600 get into all the the nitty gritty details of that. You guys can look 81 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.959 it up, but it's primary function is to keep her from getting pregnant. 82 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.199 It could be abortive if she does get pregnant in spite of its the medications 83 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:50.199 efforts to keep it from getting pregnant. It could abort a child that's been 84 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:56.399 conceived, keep it from implanting into her uterus. But it's not always abortive 85 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.120 and it's not it's a primary function. The abortion pill, how ever, 86 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.240 in the morning after pill that you would take twenty four to forty eight hours 87 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.399 after you had unprotected sex. With the abortion pill, though, the abortion 88 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.120 pill is not actually just an abortion pill. It's not just one medication. 89 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.720 It's to medications. Go back and listen to those episodes again. You'll hear 90 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.279 all of this. Probably already heard this before, hopefully, but it's a 91 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.639 procedure. So it's one medication they give them inside of the clinic and then 92 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.160 a medication that they have them take at home. Now every state's different. 93 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.240 North Carolina, you have to go to a clinic, you have to have 94 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:40.160 had an ultrasound at a clinic. You have to have a doctorate minister the 95 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:45.360 medication, the abortion pill medication. In other states like California, now, 96 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:49.879 I think Washington State, pretty sure, Colorado, Maryland, I don't know 97 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.000 all of the states, New York, but you know the north left, 98 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.000 leftist states. Right, you can get the abortion pill by mail. Yeah, 99 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.560 and it doesn't have to be at ministered by doctor. In some states 100 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:01.959 where you can't get it by mail but you have to go to a clinic 101 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.399 to get it, it can be ministered by a nurse practitioner or urn as 102 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.800 long as they have a doctor sign off on it. So I don't know 103 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.000 all the INS and outs of every state. You'll you guys will have to 104 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.319 dig into that. But what we do know, because we do know that 105 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.279 there's some some particular ways that we could reach out at those clinics. So 106 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:27.000 I'll let you jump into that. Yeah. Well, one of the things 107 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.680 that that we wanted to point out right from the beginning that that we need 108 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:36.680 to be familiar with the pill abortion, yeah, but also that there is 109 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:42.720 an aftermath that is terrible and I just what we wrote an article that goes 110 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.519 with this and one of the things. I was just rereading one of my 111 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:49.000 first paragraphs and remembering, I think this happened in New York, a young 112 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:56.360 lady who took the pill up the end and she was being counseled and at 113 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.639 first thought about reversing it, thought about choosing life and in the end did 114 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.079 not took the second set of pills which caused the contractions and she actually did 115 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:11.279 have the baby in the toilet. Yeah, and it was a recognizable little 116 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.959 baby and she was so devastated and wish that she had listened to us. 117 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.800 So we're going to talk, I think, more later about really how serious 118 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:28.319 it is. Yeah, to take the pill. But but yet, if 119 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:33.279 we know that someone has taken the abortion pill, there are things that we 120 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:39.480 are always going to call out. Yeah, and particularly afterwards, but even 121 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:46.000 before they go in. So, knowing what what you just described and knowing 122 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:52.799 what I just described, we're going to call out what happens in a pill 123 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.919 abortion, because they will not hear that from the clinic. I know for 124 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.840 a fact because I've talked to women who who have taken the pill who told 125 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.919 me the clinic told them nothing about the severity of the crampain right or the 126 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.919 severity of the clotting, the blood clots that they were going to pass, 127 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:16.679 yeah, or the fact that they could actually deliver an identifiable baby, right, 128 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.159 and it's devastating that could be. I cannot imagine. Right. So 129 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.600 when we know all that, that's kind of the first thing. Is exactly 130 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:31.759 what you said. Know what happens in a pill abortion really familiar and be 131 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.039 familiar in the aftermath of the things that can happen, because those are the 132 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.279 sorts of things you're going to want to warn the women about. Yeah, 133 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.320 guaranteed, they're being lied to, or they were. It's being just emitted. 134 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.159 They're not being told any of this. Yeah, I know, and 135 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.799 I'm actually looking right now and I can't find it, but you used to 136 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.360 go on Plant parenthood's website and they had a side effects sheet that had to 137 00:09:54.399 --> 00:10:00.279 do with mifapristone. Right, that's the first medication they give them inside of 138 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.879 the abortion clinic, and some of the side effects, as it gets into 139 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.240 the kind of the fine print details, is one out of five hundred women 140 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.440 that go through with the abortion pill procedure will require a blood transfusion. One 141 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.639 out of five hundred. That's and that's serious. Yeah, a blood transfusion. 142 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:22.120 That is serious. That's because they're bleeding so much they the it causes 143 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.200 hemorrhachain. Yeah, it can cause hemorrh chain and so it's it can be 144 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:33.320 very violent. Yeah, very violent to aftermath of having the pill. Warning 145 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.000 them. I think about that story that I just told you, right, 146 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:45.159 you may see your intact child delivered in the toilet. Yeah, imagine how 147 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:50.759 you would feel painting that picture. And that's not just playing on someone's emotions, 148 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.600 that is painting the truth, that is portraying what is really lot possible. 149 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.759 Yeah, and not infrequent. That can that can happen. Yeah, 150 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.759 that's so. So that's the first thing, is knowing about the pill and 151 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.919 being able to call out, you know, the warning of what the what 152 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.919 can happen. Yeah, but the second thing is knowing that it can be 153 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.399 reversed, right, and being familiar, yeah, about that process. Yeah, 154 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.080 and I would encourage all of you guys to go on Google search abortion 155 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.320 pill reversal and get abortion po reversalcom. That's where we send women who want 156 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.120 to do the abortion pil reversal. But on that website is information about the 157 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.279 abortion pill reversal. What it is we've had a lot of pro abortion people 158 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.720 accuse us we're putting women in lot in harms way, putting their lives at 159 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.080 risk. Yeah, by encouraging the do to the to do the abortion Pel 160 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.519 reversal. And when I asked the pro abortion people, okay, do you 161 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:52.080 know what the abortion pill reversal is like? You're staunchly opposed to this thing, 162 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.360 but do you know what it even is? What it is is they've 163 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.279 heard it from somebody that heard it from somebody. Then there was a study 164 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.919 that was done that they had to stop and Dr Matt Talks about that and 165 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.399 our podcast with him. Go back and listen to it. That study was 166 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.759 bunk. But they don't even know what the abortion pill reversal is. It's 167 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.440 just pogesterone right. It's flooding the woman's body with pogesterone. Not Unlike what 168 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.120 they do when a woman has frequent miscarriages. They minister progesterone to her when 169 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.399 she gets pregnant so she doesn't have a miscarriage or if she's in the midst 170 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.000 of a miscarriage. They've been doctors that a minister progesterone. progesterones are pretty 171 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:35.399 common thing. That's given to women in pregnancy and are their risks? Absolutely, 172 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.200 there's really with everything. It's the hormone that the woman's body is naturally 173 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.679 producing to protect, you know, and at once you're pregnant. That's what 174 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.919 your body is producing in order to sustain, build, the lining of the 175 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:54.440 uters, all of that and and nurturing sustain the the pregnancy. And, 176 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.519 by the way, another thing that you will hear all the time from the 177 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.759 pro abortion people is it's not FDA approved. Right. Well, they are 178 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:09.240 technically accurate. It is not FDA approved for the use as reversal of the 179 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.159 pill abortion. Yeah, but it is FDA approved and has been for years 180 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.799 in the treatment of miscarriage. Right. And it's really the same sort of 181 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.559 thing, which is why Dr Matt suggested or came up with this what he 182 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.799 calls the download from heaven. Yeah, was the the abortion pill cuts off 183 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.879 progester own and it, I guess it depletes it, but it at least 184 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.679 it, it inhibits the action of progesterone. Yeah, and that's why the 185 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:43.600 the pregnancy is terminated in with the abortion pill, but the the abortion pill 186 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:48.200 reversal just floods that back back in, the right. Yeah, a natural 187 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:54.039 hormone that we're the woman's body should have been producing. We're actually instead of 188 00:13:54.120 --> 00:14:00.440 with abortion pool reversal. It's the opposite of what the pro abortion crowd are 189 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:05.039 saying, because the natural thing is for the body to continue to produce progesterone. 190 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.559 They have unnaturally stopped that with the abortion paill. Yeah, yeah, 191 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.279 it's important to know how effective. That's one of the questions that you'll get 192 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.440 from Mom's and right from Dad's. The minister to well, if I do 193 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.120 that, is my baby going to certainly be saved? Listen, one of 194 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.720 the things we can't promise is if you do the abortion pill reversal, your 195 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.360 baby's absolutely going to be saved. You can't make that promise. Right, 196 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.279 it's only about sixty percent effective. Sixty six percent effective, I think. 197 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:41.240 Yeah, is the higher end of what they've seen. And still that's given 198 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.360 that child a chance, still giving that mother a chance to go back on 199 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.759 a decision that she regrets. Do Women regret taking the abortion pill? Heck 200 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.480 yes, they do. Yeah, right, and if we can give them 201 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.159 an opportunity again, I'm not going to give the pro choice people too much. 202 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.240 Are On our podcast here, but you know, they claim to be 203 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.919 pro choice. If a woman decides that she no longer wants the effects of 204 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.039 the medication she took, if she chooses to turn back on her abortion procedure 205 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.679 while it's in process, would in the pro choice people support that choice to 206 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.519 go back on that decision, you would think, if they were truly pro 207 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:22.879 pro choice? So it's another question that women ask frequently. I've I have 208 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:28.759 been one of the counselors for several abortion pill reversals. Yeah, so one 209 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.279 of the things they ask a lot as will the baby be deformed? Right, 210 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.639 will the baby be born with problems? And they they have done studies 211 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.440 and there is no evidence of that at all. Yeah, the baby will 212 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:46.000 have the same risk of problems as any pregnancy. Sure, normal pregnancy, 213 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.440 not being interrupted and going to term. Yeah, because, again, pogesterone 214 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.320 is a natural for moon that's in her body, right, and you're just 215 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.440 kind of putting that back right, because the if of pristone is a pogesterone 216 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.080 blocker. It blocks the action of the POGESTERONE. Yeah, and so again 217 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.799 you're just flooding her body with pogesterone to overcome the effects of that pogesterone blocker 218 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:11.679 and because the pro socalled pro choice group, is probably going to be vocal 219 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.080 and out there. For all of you minis during at a facility that does 220 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:22.120 pill abortions it, I think it is really critical that you read that research 221 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.039 study and that you listen to our podcast regarding that, because the women are 222 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.720 going to be told that and they are told once you take that first pill 223 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:37.440 you must complete the abortion and take the pills the second day or you're in 224 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:42.440 danger. That is not true, right, and of that research that they're 225 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:48.559 going to miss quote and say if you try the abortion pill reversal you could 226 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.039 die, you could hemorrhage. Well, the people were hemorrhaging not from the 227 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:59.320 abortion pill reversal the projesterm, they were hemorrhaging from the abortion pill. Yeah, 228 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.519 so if you don't know that, then you're not going to be able 229 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.000 to call out effectively to the women countering the lies that they are going to 230 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:12.519 hear. Yeah, so really, really important know those facts right. One 231 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:18.880 of the next things that that we really want to make sure people ministering at 232 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:23.880 abortion facilities that only do the pill is be very careful about the timing of 233 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:29.480 calling out. We've already talked about the timing of on many podcasts. Timing 234 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:34.440 of calling out about God's forgiveness, the timing of calling out about the abortion 235 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.960 pill reversal is tricky, right. Yeah, you got to be careful. 236 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.799 Yeah, so what you don't want to do is you don't want to give 237 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.440 that woman something she can grasp. You've heard me say this before. These 238 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:52.960 women are grasping for one of two things simultaneously. They're grasping for a justification 239 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.599 to go in and abort their child and they're grasping for justification to leave the 240 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.359 abortion clinic and never come back. They're grasping at these two things at the 241 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:06.519 same time and we don't want to tip the scale and kind of give them 242 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.200 a grasp on well, if I can go in here and just take the 243 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.119 abortion pill and if I want to reverse it later, I can. So 244 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.960 you don't want to ask they're walking into the abortion center or as you're having 245 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.680 a one on one conversation and they're talking about taking the abortion pill. You 246 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.400 don't want to say well, you know, if you do take it, 247 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.920 it can be reversed. That's not a good time to do that because then 248 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.319 you're giving them a justification to go ahead with the abortion pill. thinking, 249 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.279 well, if I change my mind, I can reverse it, but if 250 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.359 not, I can go through with it when it's really only a sixty percent 251 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.599 effective anyway. Right. Yeah, and so I think it is careful. 252 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.079 We it is careful. It is important that we're we are careful as when 253 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.119 they're walking in, they're going into the abortion center, we're not calling out 254 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.039 abortion pill reversal. Like I can imagine a scenario. Ones walking into the 255 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.039 abortion center from her car across the parking lot and you call out, don't 256 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:57.160 go in there and take the life of your baby. Your baby is made 257 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.640 in the image of God. We have resources to help you, but if 258 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.839 you do take the abortion pill, go to abortion per reversalcom. You don't 259 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.240 want to do that because you don't want her to grasp on that, like 260 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.200 okay, I can do it and I can do that. You really want 261 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.279 to time it when they're coming out after they've taken the abortion pill, and 262 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.920 then you want to kind of abortion pill reversalcom. Like I say, I 263 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.680 kind of try to indoctrinate that into their heads as they're coming out, exportion 264 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:25.920 REVERSALCOM, go to abortion P reversalcom. Keep on clicking, keep on hitting 265 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.240 on that so that maybe it'll put something in the in their mind to actually 266 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.960 get to the website as their own, their way back home. Right, 267 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.279 and you may think that this is far fetched, but I had this happened 268 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.759 not all that long ago where a woman said just that, oh, there's 269 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.039 abortion pill reversal. She saw our sign which which we had we had not 270 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.640 called it out. Then said, well then I'll go in, I don't 271 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:49.119 worry, I'm going to go in and I'll take the pill, but now 272 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.279 I know I can reverse it, so if I feel bad, I'll come 273 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.920 back out and talk with you about that. So we know it happens. 274 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.400 I know the tension in the heart of counselors that want to call it out 275 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.640 as they're going in is yeah, but what if we're not here when they 276 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.079 come out? Whatever, I get that, but while that baby's life is 277 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.480 on the line, every message that they are hearing, I think, has 278 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.920 to be the justification for life. Yeah, and not giving the rationale for 279 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:21.920 why they, you know, they should kill the baby. Yeah, absolutely. 280 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.039 So the next major thing I think, to think about when you're ministering 281 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:34.079 only at an abortion pill center would be the the lies in the mindset about 282 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.400 what the women are going to be told, right, and the mindset of 283 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:44.119 that woman about what she thinks about the pill as maybe not as serious as 284 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.279 other forms of abortion. Yeah, yet we have the understand too, that 285 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.039 the abortion pill is just as much an abortion as a surgical abortion. Right, 286 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.920 right. It's still kills a living child. That's the reality of it. 287 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.640 Now it may be sanitized cleaned up a little bit more, it's it's 288 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.559 not a surgical procedure that happens inside of the clinic. It is something that 289 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.640 happens at home and it's pretty gruesome actually. Yeah, I think you have 290 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:14.359 in this article to encourage folks to go on Youtube and watch the video from 291 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.519 the Abbey Johnson movie unplanned. There's actually an abortion pill procedure carried through. 292 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.519 Abbe Johnson took the abortion pill in that movie in real life is based on 293 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.519 her life and the way that's depicted is actually pretty accurate and pretty gruesome. 294 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:33.119 Yeah, I think understanding that and trying to convey that to the women who 295 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.519 think that it's just a peal. It's this magic peel. you swallow this 296 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:38.720 peel, your baby disappears and you go on with your life and no harm, 297 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.279 no foul it's not that. Actually it's a lot more gruesome, right, 298 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:47.839 and helping them understand that I think takes away that that fig leaf, 299 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.039 that lie, that's it's it's something different than an abortion, like it's just 300 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.039 again, a magic peal that you take. Yeah, yeah, so addressing 301 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:02.599 that directly, addressing the the MOM's mindset that that has been lied to and 302 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:07.759 and trying to correct those those lies, is really important. When they do 303 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.720 come out and we're telling them about the reversal process again, it's important to 304 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:18.400 know the process because they will ask not only the questions we've already addressed, 305 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.519 but don't say, well, what happened? One of the first things that 306 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.480 I often forget to call out and it is important to call out. It's 307 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:29.960 free. Yeah, it is free. The process is free, the pills 308 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:36.240 are free, but but the actual process of what happens if they did it, 309 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:37.799 first of all, they're going to go to that website, right, 310 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.759 and your wife does this, so you want to you know what happens, 311 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.279 right and when that process? Yes, so, ultimately, on the abortion 312 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.039 Pol reversialcom website there's a chat feature on there. I think they can go 313 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.319 and text and chat or they can call the number. But ultimately what happens 314 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.200 is they get connected to a local pregnancy center that does abortion p reversals or 315 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.519 a doctor, because there are some doctors offices now that do the abortion pill 316 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.680 reversal. So that hot line is kind of a way to get their information, 317 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.799 find out what their situation is and then hand them off to a local 318 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.559 pregnancy center's Charlotte, they're going to be handed off to one of the pregnancy 319 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:17.599 centers here, likely be my wife doing the abortion pil reversal, and there's 320 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.119 I think it's important for you, as a sidewall counselor to know is there 321 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.119 a pregnancy center neil nearby that does the abortion pill reversal? Because some pregnancy 322 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.599 centers it's good, I think, for them to call that hot line to 323 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.119 go on abortion reversalcom but it's even better if they can go directly to the 324 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:38.880 pregnancy center and begin that process right there. Yeah, so it's good that 325 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.160 you know where the pregnancy centers are. Maybe you have a couple pregnancy centers 326 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:48.279 in your area and one of them does abortion pty reversals and the others don't. 327 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.839 It'd be good for you to know which, which center does the abortion 328 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.079 pery reversals. So you can refer them there if you can counterwoman at the 329 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.559 abortion center. Yeah, that that wants to do that right. So, 330 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.079 once they go go to the to the pregnancy resource center, they will look 331 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.039 for the baby's heartbeat. They're not going to administer the pill and the reversal 332 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.599 progesterone. And unless they find the heartbeat they need to know the babies alive 333 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:17.519 still and and then if they find the heartbeat they'll go ahead and start the 334 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:22.759 progesterone and the woman who is encouraged to take that for the first trimester, 335 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:27.000 your first twelve weeks, and many of them are of Chris, going to 336 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:32.079 go back to the doctor, sometimes, sadly, the doctor that referred them 337 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:37.279 for the abortion. Not all doctors are on board for abortion who reversal. 338 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.599 So it's important to know who dot who the doctors in your area are that 339 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.519 maybe you could refer a mom to, yeah, if her own doctor is 340 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.880 not going to be supportive of it. But a point that I don't think 341 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.279 I make in this article, and it is so important. If a MOM 342 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.920 has stopped, they've told you that they are going to go for the abortion, 343 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:00.039 pooll reversal, get their name and number and follow through, because I've 344 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.920 had both things happen, where the baby survives and I'm able to share the 345 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.960 Gospel and I'm able to set up a mentorship and provide resources, but I've 346 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.519 also had the situation where the baby dies. Yeah, and to have someone 347 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:22.559 who is going to be able to Speak Comfort from a Gospel perspective into that 348 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:29.160 horrible situation is really important, because these women are going to feel a lot 349 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.960 of guilt. Yeah, and and maybe in some ways it's almost worse because 350 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:37.400 they went, they they did go to kill their baby. They really are 351 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.799 responsible. However, they did their best to then right, do the right 352 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:48.279 thing. Why weren't they rewarded for that? I think it's a really common 353 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.839 question and I think all of us need to be ready right to speak into 354 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:59.240 that right because it's not a hundred percent effective. No, no, you 355 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:00.920 know, I will say, and this is what my wife does when she 356 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.960 ministers to them, because she's had two minister to quite a few that lost 357 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.160 the baby. Yeah, at least you tried. At least you tried to 358 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.000 do what you can. Are you responsible in some measure? Will certainly, 359 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:18.839 but you tried to undo it and for whatever reason it didn't happen. Yeah, 360 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.920 and so you can't beat yourself up. You can't. You can't undo 361 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.200 the past and you can, of course, we need to point them toward 362 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.480 the forgiveness that comes through Jesus, if that would ent put their trust in 363 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.799 him. At that point that woman's already broken and it's really easily too easy 364 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:40.359 to Minister The Gospel to her. So I want to kind of shift gears 365 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.480 a bit in the last couple of minutes and I know we've got a few 366 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.480 more points that we want to touch on this but I want to talk about 367 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.599 some practical stuff. Just practically speaking. You're standing, you have a team 368 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.319 that's in front of the Abortion Center to plan parenthood. They only do the 369 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.960 abortion pills. or it's another FPA those ro out in the West Coast or 370 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.599 that are privately owned abortion clinics that only do the abortion pell I think there's 371 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.319 one in Winston Salem. It's like a private doctor's office that only does the 372 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.440 abortion pills and you're there reaching out. What are some of the kind of 373 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.920 a sensual things I think we've already touched on. Really the essential things is 374 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.319 knowing the procedure but also being able to convey that reality. I think one 375 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.480 of the things that you would say in calling out if you know it's an 376 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.599 abortion pill place is to say that an abortion pill is just as much an 377 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.680 abortion as a surgical abortion. That baby still going to die. Abortion pill 378 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.000 is going to stop your baby's heart from beating. I would say too in 379 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.680 essential part of your ministry is going to be literature, getting literature into their 380 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.440 hands. The hope is here literature that we use. It has in the 381 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.039 middle part of it the explanation of the abortion pill, so they get that. 382 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.240 Hopefully they get that going in. They read it, they're astounded by, 383 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.480 okay, this is actually an abortion, I'm going to kill my child, 384 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.000 and they change their mind. On the back of that is the abortion 385 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.960 pill reversal website right so they can get connected there. I think essential things 386 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.759 are when they're coming out, always mention abortion pill reversal when they're coming out 387 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.319 and there's some things you can pick up on. There's some patterns you can 388 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.599 pick up on. I know one of the patterns here in Charlotte, at 389 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.799 Latrobe is we knew the abortion pill people when we saw the abortion the abortionist 390 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.440 get here about fifteen minutes after the abortionist arrives, there would be a flood 391 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.440 of people to come out. We knew that those are the abortion pill people 392 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.200 because that we had a few interactions with those people and we kind of picked 393 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.319 up on the pattern. These are the abortion peel right at the window over 394 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.200 clinic. They picked up on a pattern and they talked to a few people 395 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.599 coming out. If they came out with a pink bag, they knew that 396 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.160 those were abortion peel people. In that pink bag was the medication they give 397 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.119 them take it home. So maybe you know. Definitely having conversations with people 398 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.279 as they're coming out and being very observant. If you see a common thing, 399 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.799 maybe a different colored slip of paper, you can maybe identify ocause that 400 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.799 somebody it took the abortion bill. Hey, look at patterns and things like 401 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:03.279 that. But when end doubt, plug them. Plug the abortion pill reversal 402 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.359 website. Go to abortion per reversalcom and I would say signage is really important. 403 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.960 Right. We don't want to plug the abortion pill reversal while they're going 404 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.799 in. We already talked about that. But you can't mitigate all of that. 405 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.200 Right. Some people going in are going to hear you calling that out 406 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.160 to people going out. Do the best you can with that. Some people 407 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.480 are going to like your story. They're going to see the sign while they're 408 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.039 going in. there. There only so much you can do, Hey, 409 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.119 but I do think positioning your sign. It says abortion pill reversalcom. It 410 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.079 could just say abortion pill reversalcom like. That's that website itself. The web 411 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.359 address is pretty self explanatory. Yep, but you can put other things. 412 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.960 Like the signage that we use in love life is abortion pill regrets. I 413 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.799 think that's what it says. Yes, Suy a lady, abortion pill regrets, 414 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.240 abortion per reversalcom. Right, don't make it super detailed. If you're 415 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.920 not with love life and you're making your own signs, don't make it super 416 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.759 detailed. Do you regret having taken the abortion pill? That's a horrible decision. 417 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.319 Abortion. Don't use a bunch of words, just abortion pill regrets. 418 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.720 Do you regret taking the abortion pill? That's maybe a little too long, 419 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.599 but the website itself, abortion pill reversalcom is key and I think having that 420 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.759 as they're coming out of the driveway, having that be like the first thing 421 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.599 they see, is really, really important. Whether you have someone hold that 422 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.799 sign are you have it positioned? Maybe like at the window over clinic. 423 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.200 Across the road is a tree, and so Elijah props up the sign on 424 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.279 that tree. So soon as they're pulling out, like they see that, 425 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.319 whether they're taking a left or right, they have to look straight ahead at 426 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.759 that sign and it's talking about the abortion pill reversal. Right, right, 427 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:38.759 yeah, so as you're calling out abortion pill reversacom and I will also add 428 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.680 it's free. Yeah, it's effective most of the time, because it's over 429 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.240 half of the time. It is effective and it's free. It's effective and 430 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.119 it's safe. Yeah, we know that. It's true for the for the 431 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.039 mom so I recall that out also to kind of clear that up. Yeah, 432 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.680 yeah, now I would say because you don't know who's going in for 433 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.000 what, especially you're a plan parenthood. We've talked about this. We did 434 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.799 an episode about ministering at places that do other things than abortions, the abortion 435 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.640 pill, like with the surgical abortion, you can tell if they're going in 436 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.640 for, especially a later term surgical abortion. They'll be dressed in a certain 437 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.480 way. They're dressed with baggy pants, right. Sometimes you can see a 438 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.039 baby bump, all that stuff. There's some indicators there that they're going in 439 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.440 for an abortion with the abortion pill. There's not a lot of indicators. 440 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.599 Yeah. So and plus, at a lot of these clinics that do only 441 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:37.039 the abortion pill you can't really tell what times of day they're coming in because 442 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.160 they can come throughout the entire day to take the abortion pill. At most 443 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.119 abortion centers that are doing surgical abortions, you can kind of pick up on 444 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.960 a flow of things. Most of the time the surgical abortion patients are coming 445 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.559 in and in the morning and they'll have particular days of the week. Like 446 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.359 some plant parenthoods, the one here in Charlotte, they only do abortions on 447 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.839 Tuesdays and Fridays, right, and we know that through different means. You 448 00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:01.640 can find that stuff out. You guys get creative. You can actually go 449 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.960 on their website and see what days they allow abortion appointments for some plant parenthoods 450 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.000 and some FBA clinics as well. And so, however you can find that 451 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.319 information that. That's great, but you can't really easily find that information at 452 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.640 these abortion clinics that only do the abortion pill. So I think you have 453 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.960 to ask the Lord to give you wisdom and then you have to just assume 454 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:29.160 that everyone is there for an abortion pill and less given a reason to believe 455 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.720 otherwise. Hey, and so when I call out especially amount of place that 456 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:37.400 does things other than abortions, whether it's surgical abortions or abortion pills, I'm 457 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.880 going to call out if you're here for an abortion and then I'm going to 458 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.839 go into my spiell. Hey, if you're here to take the abortion pill, 459 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.359 like if I knew this place only does abortion pills, the more specific 460 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.279 I can be the better. And so I would say something like, if 461 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.640 you're here to take the abortion pill, please know that your baby is alive 462 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.440 and the abortion pill is just as much an abortion as a surgical abortion. 463 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.279 We have helped for you. Please come over and talk with me. Yeah, 464 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.400 yeah, that would be kind of my normal, you know, ten 465 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.640 seconds, if you only be a two seconds, and remember, because you 466 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.319 do know, that if it's only abortion pilled, all those babies are ten 467 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.960 weeks or under right in age. So very important to memorize as much as 468 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.000 you can the fetal facts, right development under ten weeks, because that's what 469 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.079 you would call out in terms of the humanity of the baby. Yeah, 470 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.119 since they you know, calling out about a above a ten week old baby 471 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.000 is really not going to matter to them because they're trying to dehumanize the baby 472 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.240 and they're thinking, oh, yeah, but that's an older baby, my 473 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.000 baby's so tiny and whatever. So No, the developmental facts, there's plenty 474 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.559 of them. Yeah, that will show the humanity in the truth of that 475 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.200 that child. And of course, the things we always call out that that 476 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.440 child, from the moment of conception, is created by God in his holy 477 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.759 image and that's what gives that child, yeah, her sacred value. Yeah, 478 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.079 yeah, absolutely, I know. Just and I think we're about ready 479 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.359 to wrap up. Yeah, if you don't have anything else to add, 480 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.480 but I will just say again by kind of by the way of practical advice, 481 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.200 if I had an abortion center where this is the Plant Parenthood and Charlotte, 482 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:07.639 they do a surgery, they do surgical abortions, but kind of the 483 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.320 flow of things is there's a way in to the abortion clinic and then there's 484 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.559 a way out right, so they only go in one way and then only 485 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.199 go out another way, I would make sure I had someone position at that 486 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.079 out, you know, that exit right. Really focusing on the abortion pill. 487 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.920 Yeah, and the abortion pill reversal. Yeah, have literature in their 488 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199 hands. Have a sign set up there. I would make sure a had 489 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.480 that covered at all times. Someone at the driveway going in and someone the 490 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.920 driveway going out. But that person of the driveway going out, they're going 491 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.239 to talk about abortion pill reversal. That's that's going to be their thing. 492 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.039 Did you take the abortion pill? Even if someone stops you take the abortion 493 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.000 pill. Abortion pill reversalcom. Give them literature and then, of course go 494 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.119 into, you know, deeper conversation if you're able to. But you want 495 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.880 to plug that abortion pill reversalcom very much. We've had women go out coming 496 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.079 out of the driveway of the abortion center. They caught a glimpse of our 497 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:07.239 sign or they heard something. They heard someone say abortion Pi Reversalcom. They 498 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.280 drove home. One young lady pulled over to the side of the road. 499 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.719 She was just going back and forth in her mind. What did I just 500 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.159 do? And then she remembered she saw a sign all abortion pill reversecom. 501 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.760 She pulls over the side of the road, Google's IT, gets connected with 502 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.679 the abortion pill folks. They connect her with my wife. She ends up 503 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.719 getting the abortion pery reversal her babies. Now said babies. She was having 504 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.360 twins. Her baby's lives were saved and now she sends my wife a picture 505 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.199 on their birthday every year. This has been like four years ago or something 506 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.519 and just amazing too precious lives that were saved right because someone was there with 507 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.960 a sign, someone was there reaching out. Another story were young lady heard 508 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.480 someone say the abortion pery reversal website as they were coming out, on our 509 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.679 microphone actually, and that's what helped her to do the abortion p reversal. 510 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.480 So just hope that you guys are blessed by this podcast. Hope this was 511 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.679 an encouragement and hope this equipped you guys who are reaching out at these particular 512 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.360 abortion clinics. If you have feedback on this podcast or others, we'd love 513 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.719 to hear from you. You can reach out to me, Daniel, love 514 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.360 life dot org and reach her, Vicki, with a why I'd Love Life 515 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.559 Dot Org. We'd also appreciate if you guys would leave us a review on 516 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.800 apple podcast or whatever other podcast service that you use. That would be a 517 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.039 tremendous blessing to us. But until next time, God bless, godless you 518 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:36.519 all. Give me our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. 519 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:47.039 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and 520 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:55.440 some met you