How to Respond to Abortion-minded Women with Coronavirus Fears

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Welcome to the 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.349 Gospel Center per life podcast. You know, there's a lot of fear surrounding 3 00:00:09.390 --> 00:00:12.830 the issue of coronavirus on our world and the women that we minister to on 4 00:00:12.910 --> 00:00:16.030 the sidewalk feel this sphere as well. But how do we bring faith into 5 00:00:16.070 --> 00:00:19.550 the equation and help them to trust the Lord in their situation? Please join 6 00:00:19.629 --> 00:00:31.859 us as we talk about this biblically. I felt show passis touch your use. 7 00:00:35.500 --> 00:00:39.369 Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcasts. Appreciate you guys tuning in 8 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:43.130 and listening. Appreciate you guys sharing this podcast and our other podcast. Our 9 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.810 last podcast, I think it was a real blessing, was the podcast with 10 00:00:47.009 --> 00:00:51.000 the former abortion clinic escort. That was awesome. Yeah, with Kevin. 11 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.280 It was an awesome testimony to see what the Lord did in his life and 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.039 ultimately what the Lord's doing through him and just being, you know, at 13 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.960 one time on that side of the sidewalk and now on this side of the 14 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:07.590 sidewalk on God's side. I believe great perspective. You need perspective absolutely, 15 00:01:07.670 --> 00:01:11.269 so it's just a tremendous blessing to have been able to share that with you 16 00:01:11.310 --> 00:01:14.030 guys. So please, if you hadn't listened to that, check that out, 17 00:01:14.349 --> 00:01:17.510 share that, share this podcast. But let's hop into it. What 18 00:01:17.709 --> 00:01:22.260 subject are we covering today? Well, we bring so many of our subjects 19 00:01:22.579 --> 00:01:26.780 from our experiences on the sidewalk and this is one we definitely have been experiencing. 20 00:01:26.060 --> 00:01:33.890 How to respond to increased fear in abortion determined women during the COVID pandemic. 21 00:01:33.930 --> 00:01:37.010 Yeah, that's that's that's a pretty small title. Maybe we can add 22 00:01:37.010 --> 00:01:41.290 some more to that. Enough, quite enough words to really grab the audience. 23 00:01:41.329 --> 00:01:44.930 Yeah, yeah, it's pretty long title actually and you know, well, 24 00:01:45.170 --> 00:01:47.840 maybe trim it down for the podcast, but for you guys listening, 25 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.760 this will give you an idea what we're focusing on, because it is something 26 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.519 in the midst of this pandemic that we have faced on a regular basis, 27 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.920 that fear. And the Bible says God has not given us a spirit of 28 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.310 fear, but of power, love and a sound mind, and that's but 29 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:07.310 that was specifically spoken by Paul to Timothy, written by Paul to Timothy. 30 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:10.389 But we take it as encouragement as believers, and so we're not supposed to 31 00:02:10.389 --> 00:02:15.259 walk in fear as believers, although sometimes we do succumb to fear, but 32 00:02:15.379 --> 00:02:20.219 unbelievers it's kind of the natural band of people just to be afraid when you 33 00:02:20.340 --> 00:02:23.379 got a global pandemic on your hands. And we can debate over whether or 34 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:28.259 not it's been blown out of proportion or whatever, but the fact is we're 35 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:31.889 dealing with something and there's a lot of people who don't have their roots deep 36 00:02:32.050 --> 00:02:37.409 into Christ and his truths and the fact that he is our life and all 37 00:02:37.449 --> 00:02:40.409 of that. unregenerate people are afraid and we have to deal with that on 38 00:02:40.490 --> 00:02:46.280 a regular basis. Right and and so what we had noticed in the early 39 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.360 months, especially of the pandemic, was that there seemed to be a whole 40 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.199 lot more abortions, maybe double on some of the days. Yeah, and 41 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.110 actually did a little bit of research into that and in the article that will 42 00:02:59.110 --> 00:03:06.229 accompany this podcast we give you the reference to this article. But abortion statistics 43 00:03:06.270 --> 00:03:08.949 are difficult to find. Oh, yeah, they are especially current. Yeah, 44 00:03:08.949 --> 00:03:13.580 and even when you find them there sometimes difficult to decipher right how they 45 00:03:14.020 --> 00:03:16.620 apply. Yea, all that sort of thing. That maker Institute is one 46 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.460 of the main places that we often go, but it's a very pro choice. 47 00:03:21.580 --> 00:03:24.979 Sort of the website fairhoods statistic wing pretty much kind of don't know how 48 00:03:25.020 --> 00:03:30.050 much to trust them. Yeah, but this wasn't from Gut mocker. It 49 00:03:30.250 --> 00:03:32.770 was in a USA Today articles, but they give the reference. But anyway, 50 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:37.530 they said that anecdotal evidence, they don't have exact numbers, but but 51 00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:44.000 they agreed that anecdotal evidence from abortion providers indicates that abortions increased dramatically during the 52 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:50.039 first months of Covid and that is definitely what what we saw and what we 53 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.520 also saw, again, anecdotally. We didn't do research, but that women 54 00:03:53.879 --> 00:04:00.949 seemed less eager to interact with us, yea, and harder hearted, yeah, 55 00:04:00.110 --> 00:04:05.909 and harder to convince to maybe consider a choice other than abortion. Yeah. 56 00:04:06.469 --> 00:04:12.900 Well, we did a podcast some months ago talking about this very subject 57 00:04:12.979 --> 00:04:15.899 of fear and dealing with the spirit of fear that a lot of these women 58 00:04:15.939 --> 00:04:20.980 are under an understanding that spirit of fear, not not using or allowing that 59 00:04:21.220 --> 00:04:25.730 justification just because they're afraid it's okay for them to come to an abortion clinic 60 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:29.329 and kill their child. Right, but we do need to have an understanding 61 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:31.009 of the people that were ministering to. So go back and listen to that, 62 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449 guys, because this is going to be along those same lines, I'm 63 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:38.329 sure. Yeah, but it's in light of I mean, that was done 64 00:04:38.370 --> 00:04:41.920 before the the pandemic and anything like that. So this is going to be 65 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.240 specifically in light of that. Yeah, you know, I've heard it's not 66 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.360 been a couple of weeks ago I had a conversation with the young lady at 67 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.720 the abortion center here and one of her major concerns was that her baby, 68 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.069 she felt like she was exposed to the coronavirus and that she maybe even had 69 00:04:57.230 --> 00:05:00.269 covid nineteen. Yeah, she was afraid that it might affect her baby. 70 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:02.990 Is One of the reasons why she was considering an abortion. She didn't want 71 00:05:02.990 --> 00:05:05.629 to have a baby with birth defects. Right, and I've heard that. 72 00:05:05.870 --> 00:05:11.620 I've heard quite frequently that people have lost jobs. Yeah, absolutely, though 73 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:18.139 schooling situation has added a burden on our entire nation and world, but the 74 00:05:18.899 --> 00:05:26.129 people that are probably most severely affected by that are unwed single MOMS, because 75 00:05:26.129 --> 00:05:30.970 all of a sudden they have to be home with their children to school them 76 00:05:31.329 --> 00:05:34.290 and they can no longer work. Yeah, and they're the only income. 77 00:05:34.329 --> 00:05:39.120 Yeah, so I think so spot to be in. They're very no art 78 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.360 issue. The thing, guys, we have to because it's easy for us, 79 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.720 who know that abortion is murdered. No, do this wrong. It's 80 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.269 easy for us just to ride off the issues that people are dealing with. 81 00:05:50.149 --> 00:05:53.949 There's a balance, though. There's a balance in that. Yes, we 82 00:05:54.029 --> 00:05:58.709 don't justify there's no situation that a mother is facing that justifies her murdering her 83 00:05:58.750 --> 00:06:00.629 child. Right, we understand that. We know that. If you don't 84 00:06:00.629 --> 00:06:03.339 agree with that, if you disagree with that, then you probably are listening 85 00:06:03.379 --> 00:06:06.339 to the wrong podcast. Or go back and start at the first podcast and 86 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:11.420 work your way through exact hopefully we'll change your heart on exactly. But that 87 00:06:11.579 --> 00:06:16.100 being said, we don't just right off the issues that the people that were 88 00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:18.730 trying to minister to deal with. We don't just said well, that doesn't 89 00:06:18.730 --> 00:06:21.050 matter, it's not a justification for murder. Yeah, you know, that 90 00:06:21.129 --> 00:06:24.810 doesn't matter. You we can keep on. It does matter. Actually, 91 00:06:25.050 --> 00:06:27.970 it certainly matters enough to them that they're at an abortion clinic. So if 92 00:06:28.009 --> 00:06:30.410 we're going to meet them where they're at and we're going to try to come 93 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:35.079 in the midst of that crisis and bring Jesus in that crisis, we've got 94 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.399 to be willing to accept the fact that these people really feel like it is 95 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:43.240 a crisis in such a way that they're willing to come to an abortion clinic 96 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.389 to try to help minigate that. During this the first few months, especially 97 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:53.949 if Covid, I think we were seeing more people that really were very conflicted. 98 00:06:53.990 --> 00:06:59.230 Yeah, felt that a there because fear was driving them so strongly, 99 00:06:59.269 --> 00:07:02.579 because of the intensity of the fear with covid they were feeling abortion was their 100 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:05.779 only choice. But there was conflict. I'd see a lot more women weeping, 101 00:07:05.860 --> 00:07:09.779 a lot more women that would stop and start crying and tell me, 102 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.220 but I have to do it, as opposed to just people barreling in, 103 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:19.250 giving us the finger and racing in through the door. And statistically, women 104 00:07:19.329 --> 00:07:27.569 who have conflict fair much more poorly following an abortion, in the aftermath of 105 00:07:27.649 --> 00:07:33.800 an abortion. So this is a troubling trend that there were these women who 106 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:38.959 were clearly more conflicted. Again, anecdotal, I don't approve of it, 107 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:45.430 but the research has proof that women who are conflicted don't fare as well follow 108 00:07:45.509 --> 00:07:48.709 in the aftermath of an abortion. Yeah, so what do we do with 109 00:07:48.910 --> 00:07:55.670 all of that? Knowing that we have all facedd here in Charlotte and talked 110 00:07:55.670 --> 00:08:00.699 about it. These women are so frightened because of covid and again we're a 111 00:08:00.819 --> 00:08:05.220 Gospel Focus Ministry, so we go to the Gospel. Yeah, and I 112 00:08:05.339 --> 00:08:09.139 was working through this and and working on the article, I had about five 113 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:16.410 or six aspects of fear that I thought we could address. Okay, let's 114 00:08:16.490 --> 00:08:22.050 teyone and and along with some scriptural help in addressing that issue. So the 115 00:08:22.129 --> 00:08:28.519 first one uncertainty of the future. That that's a big one that we hear 116 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.600 it. They the future is always uncertain, of course, but it's particularly 117 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.519 uncertain when you're facing this pandemic that no one seems to know anything about, 118 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:45.590 especially in the early days, all kinds of conflicting facts that we're being so 119 00:08:45.750 --> 00:08:48.669 called facts that we were being given about it. So the first point, 120 00:08:48.710 --> 00:08:56.419 I think, to reassure women or anyone of fear of the future is this 121 00:08:56.620 --> 00:09:01.179 is a constant. Yeah, uncertainty of the few future is a constant, 122 00:09:01.379 --> 00:09:05.940 whether you're facing a pandemic or no pandemic. Yeah, I mean one thing 123 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:09.330 that certain is that uncertainty you will always be there, and that's that's one 124 00:09:09.370 --> 00:09:13.250 thing. That's a good one. And you know proverbs twenty seven one says 125 00:09:13.330 --> 00:09:16.409 do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may 126 00:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.210 bring forth. Yeah, God tells us so far and over again. Don't 127 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:24.759 worry about the future, you don't know if the future is ever going to 128 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.360 arrive, right. Yeah, I mean one wise preacher said tomorrow is found 129 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.000 on a fool's calendar. We don't have tomorrow. We need to think about 130 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.600 today. Now, obviously there's a scriptural dynamic that we need to plan for 131 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.070 the future. But when we only think about the future, our worries are 132 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:45.950 wrapped up in what's going to happen tomorrow, the next day, then we 133 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:50.830 don't in the present make oftentimes good decisions. Right. Fear is a terrible 134 00:09:50.950 --> 00:09:54.340 driver for decisionmaking. We should not make decisions based on fear. Yeah, 135 00:09:54.740 --> 00:10:00.019 you know another dynamic that that kind of goes hand in hand with this, 136 00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:03.620 and I've talked to a lot of young men, actually, I take it 137 00:10:03.820 --> 00:10:07.210 think of at least two or maybe three recently at the abortion center. Well, 138 00:10:07.289 --> 00:10:09.250 they've said, you know, I don't want to raise a kid in 139 00:10:09.289 --> 00:10:11.690 the midst of all this craziness. And there. So they're talking about the 140 00:10:11.730 --> 00:10:16.649 pandemic, they're talking about the bias of the riot, riots and all this 141 00:10:16.769 --> 00:10:20.090 stuff going this is this crazy world that we've got going on. I mean, 142 00:10:20.129 --> 00:10:24.600 let's let's face it, two thousand and twenty has been rough, insane 143 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.039 so many levels. Yeah, and they're like, I don't want to raise 144 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.120 a kid in this crazy world. Now I will respond and maybe you tell 145 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.269 me, maybe on right now here and this podcast, you can rebuke me 146 00:10:37.350 --> 00:10:41.029 and tell me that this I shouldn't say. That's nuts. Right now, 147 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:43.990 I shouldn't respond like that. But when they say that I want to raise 148 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:46.830 a kid in this crazy world, it's you know, people were shooting each 149 00:10:46.870 --> 00:10:50.659 other in the streets, there's riots, there's protests, there's a pandemic going 150 00:10:50.700 --> 00:10:52.100 on, and one of the things I respond I'll say, yeah, it's 151 00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:56.659 so bad that people are killing their own children. Yeah, and you're here 152 00:10:56.740 --> 00:10:58.779 to do that. Do you want to be part of the problem or part 153 00:10:58.779 --> 00:11:01.820 of the solution? Yeah, well, you know what, piggybacking off of 154 00:11:01.940 --> 00:11:05.529 that idea, what I was going to suggest as a response to this is 155 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:11.330 your right. The future is uncertain, very uncertain, and probably increasingly uncertain 156 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:16.250 with this pandemic, but there is a certainty that if you walk in that 157 00:11:16.289 --> 00:11:20.360 abortion center and you take the life of your child, your child's dead. 158 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.120 Yeah, that's certain. Sure, and and so bumping up their fear of 159 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.919 the uncertainty, which could be bad, could be good, none of us 160 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.070 know. Sure, but the certainty that they're going to kill their own baby, 161 00:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.110 and that's a very bad yeah. So I think that's a practical way 162 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:41.269 to deal with right. Yeah, helping them understand that out of fear if 163 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:46.460 they make a rash decision. What certain is that I cheered a couple of 164 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.700 weeks ago or a couple months ago about a young lady who had chosen life 165 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:54.779 here at the abortion center, who had talked to back and forth for a 166 00:11:54.779 --> 00:11:58.620 little bit and she was talking about this very thing, some of the uncertainties 167 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.529 and some of the things like that, and she even talked about regret and 168 00:12:01.610 --> 00:12:05.610 she said, I know I'll have regrets if I have the abortion and I'm 169 00:12:05.649 --> 00:12:07.610 not sure that I'll have regrets if I have the baby. As it will. 170 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:11.769 So you have a certainty, you know, you're certain in your mind 171 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:13.649 you're going to have regrets if you have the abortion and you're not so sure 172 00:12:15.169 --> 00:12:16.799 and you may or may not have regrets if you have that baby. Why 173 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.879 don't you? Why don't you just say, Hey, I'm certain this area 174 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.080 and I'm not in this area, so go with the thing that you know. 175 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.960 You have some uncertainty. So will the not. You'll be doubtful with 176 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.639 or not. You'll be regretful if you have that baby. Yeah, and 177 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.429 that wasn't what changed your mind. The just God was doing a lot of 178 00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:37.070 stuff. She ultimately changed her mind and just it was. was tremendous story. 179 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:41.389 So it was a great way of taking the uncertainty and turning it around 180 00:12:41.549 --> 00:12:43.899 exactly work in the favor of the choice, for for the child. And 181 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:48.820 that's a great counseling technique. Yeah, so good job there, Daniel. 182 00:12:48.899 --> 00:12:50.940 Well, by the grace of God, of course. Always. So, 183 00:12:52.659 --> 00:12:54.860 no matter what, here's number two. No matter what the future holds, 184 00:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.210 no matter what, we are to obey God. Yeah, because the choice 185 00:13:00.250 --> 00:13:03.210 to abort your child is rebellion against God. Absolutely, there's no doubt about 186 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:07.370 that. And and so let's see, I've got a verse for that one. 187 00:13:07.409 --> 00:13:11.250 Okay, come now, you who say today or tomorrow we will go 188 00:13:11.370 --> 00:13:15.039 to such and such a city and spend a year there and engage in business 189 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.480 and make a profit. Yet you do not know what your life will be 190 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.480 like tomorrow. You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and 191 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.039 then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, if the Lord Wills, 192 00:13:26.590 --> 00:13:30.710 we will live and also do this or that at but as it is, 193 00:13:30.909 --> 00:13:35.350 you boast in your arrogance all such boasting as evil. Therefore, no 194 00:13:35.470 --> 00:13:39.629 one knows the right thing to do. I'm sorry to one who knows the 195 00:13:39.669 --> 00:13:41.539 right thing to do and does not do it. To him it is sin. 196 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:46.379 That's James for yeah, thirteen to seventeen. I thought that that was 197 00:13:46.659 --> 00:13:50.220 really good talking about. You don't know what the future is going to bring, 198 00:13:50.779 --> 00:13:52.700 but you do know that you should be following God's will. You should 199 00:13:52.700 --> 00:13:56.490 be doing and you should be saying, as the Lord's will, I will 200 00:13:56.570 --> 00:14:00.690 do this. And if you know what's right and you don't do it, 201 00:14:01.370 --> 00:14:05.289 then it is and it really brings into the equation trusting the Lord. Yes, 202 00:14:05.570 --> 00:14:09.000 it's so important that in all of these conversations that we have, that 203 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.399 we bring God into the equation, because he's there anyway. These moms, 204 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.120 even the ones who are atheist, I'm telling your claim to be atheist, 205 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.399 are thinking in some way about God right there, thinking in spiritual terms a 206 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.990 lot of times and they're feeling guilt for even coming to an abortion clinic. 207 00:14:28.070 --> 00:14:30.549 A lot of times they're feeling guilt for making that appointment, all of that. 208 00:14:30.950 --> 00:14:33.710 So we need to remind them God is in this equation and it's really, 209 00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269 you heard me say often, it's a trust issue. Are you going 210 00:14:37.389 --> 00:14:41.220 to trust the Lord in this situation? You're going to trust him with the 211 00:14:41.299 --> 00:14:43.580 future? Are you going to trust abortion? The future is uncertain. Is 212 00:14:43.620 --> 00:14:50.059 Abortion going to make it more certain? Is the futures unsure? It's unsecure 213 00:14:50.740 --> 00:14:54.090 for everyone. We can't secure our own future and all the things that we 214 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:58.970 do. Are we going to put our security in abortion? Are we going 215 00:14:58.009 --> 00:15:01.409 to put in the Lord? And I think helping these MOMS to understand that 216 00:15:01.529 --> 00:15:05.129 dynamic, that it's really a trust issue, is helpful. Yeah, comes 217 00:15:05.129 --> 00:15:09.960 to this. Yeah, exactly, into really point blank say one is following 218 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.200 God, one is not, because oftentimes I don't think they have thought of 219 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.080 it in those terms. Yeah, they've rationalized that and made it seem that 220 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.950 it is okay because they're facing this terrible future and poverty or whatever, so 221 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:31.230 it's okay, yeah, to kill their child. Here's another one. Okay, 222 00:15:31.549 --> 00:15:33.429 God does not call us to a spirit of fear, which is what 223 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.779 you talked about. HMM, but in the midst of calamity, specifically that 224 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:45.460 we're not called to fear just because struggles have increased, which they have. 225 00:15:45.779 --> 00:15:48.779 There's no doubt my struggles have increased. Yeah, with this pandemic, all 226 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:54.049 of ours has. I hate wearing the mask. It's very hard to breathe. 227 00:15:54.529 --> 00:15:58.370 But, and I think a the psalm, one of the most wonderful, 228 00:15:58.409 --> 00:16:02.090 wellknown psalms, twenty three four, verse four, really points that out. 229 00:16:02.409 --> 00:16:06.279 Even though I walk through the Valley of the shadow of death, I 230 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.080 will fear no evil. I fear no evil, for you are with me, 231 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.440 your rot in your staff, they come for me. So the PSALMIST 232 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.710 is describing really the most fearful thing of all, yeah, the shadow of 233 00:16:18.950 --> 00:16:23.470 death, and he's saying, even though you were in that most fearful of 234 00:16:23.590 --> 00:16:29.669 circumstance, you're not to fear, not to fear evil, because this God 235 00:16:29.789 --> 00:16:34.539 is there and he has the tools necessary to protect us and he will comfort 236 00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:40.860 us. And I think that that is a very positive message to give to 237 00:16:41.019 --> 00:16:45.379 these women who are walking through their own valley of the shadow of death. 238 00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:48.009 Yeah, literally, they are. Yes, and they you know, to 239 00:16:48.129 --> 00:16:53.809 communicate. That takes us just calming down for a second. We're talking to 240 00:16:53.850 --> 00:16:57.570 him mom going into an abortion center, or maybe car side because she's pulled 241 00:16:57.610 --> 00:17:02.120 over to talk to us or she stopped on our way in, to calm 242 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:07.519 down and to really reason with her and to really try as best we can 243 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:12.119 to infuse hope into a hopeless situation, because they are feeling fear, they 244 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:19.309 are feeling hopeless, they are feeling unsunsecure. What brings security? The hope 245 00:17:19.349 --> 00:17:23.509 that God brings. And so us to speak. And again we're not compromising 246 00:17:25.549 --> 00:17:29.190 the truth. We're not saying that abortions just a mistake. It's you know, 247 00:17:29.430 --> 00:17:32.299 it's murder. We can be very plain about that. And we're not 248 00:17:32.539 --> 00:17:37.180 minimizing the fact that they have legitimate fear exactly. We're saying God is there, 249 00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:41.539 but we're saying that there is hope for this hopeless situation. There is 250 00:17:41.660 --> 00:17:45.769 hope for you and for your child and that the unsecurity, the unsurety that 251 00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:51.210 you feel, God knows it and he's made provision for you and for your 252 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:53.690 child. And again it get goes back to that issue of trust. Will 253 00:17:53.730 --> 00:17:57.880 you trust the Lord he obviously trusted you with this child. He placed it 254 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:03.200 inside out of your womb. Could you trust him? Yeah, could you 255 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.000 trust that, even though there's a lot of unsurity with coronavirus and all the 256 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.519 craziness, that God is faithful? Yeah. And many of these women, 257 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.230 the vast majority at least that we minister to hear, would, would speak 258 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630 of the faithfulness of God. They were raised in church. They know what 259 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:22.390 God's word says. With God's Word is very plain about God. Can Be 260 00:18:22.670 --> 00:18:26.859 trusted that he's good in the midst of bad situations. This psalm itself, 261 00:18:27.259 --> 00:18:30.500 some twenty three, is just evidence of that. David, going through that 262 00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:34.059 Valley of the shadow of death, yeah, and maybe even sharing this this 263 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:38.460 scripture with mom going into an abortion center when you have time to talk to 264 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:41.130 her. We've probably all heard that passage. Yeah, right, that's the 265 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:45.930 most quoted passage at funerals of all debt with that value of the shadow of 266 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:48.730 death. Right, God is faithful in the yeah. Yeah. And and 267 00:18:49.410 --> 00:18:56.200 the stories of the Bible from Genesis on are the stories of people facing impossible 268 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:03.000 circumstances and God rescuing them. Yeah. So there is plenty of stories that 269 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.400 you can bring from the scripture that can encourage women. Hey, you are 270 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.910 not alone. Throughout history people have struggled and have faced really, really heard 271 00:19:14.990 --> 00:19:21.829 circumstances, but when they trusted in God they made it through one way or 272 00:19:21.829 --> 00:19:25.579 another. Maybe it's only that, maybe not in this life but in each 273 00:19:25.740 --> 00:19:30.180 you know, maybe it means in their eternity with God, but he is 274 00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:36.339 there and he is faithful. Yeah, so one of the things that they 275 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:44.769 speak of often as they drive in is that their life is out of control. 276 00:19:45.329 --> 00:19:51.730 They cannot control particularly the pandemic. They have no control over whether they're 277 00:19:51.730 --> 00:19:56.200 going to get it, whether other people are going to wear a mask or 278 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.880 not wear a mask, whether that even protects them or not. So there's 279 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:06.559 all this loss of control and I think a good principle to remind them of 280 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:12.750 is to take control of what we can be certain. And so the the 281 00:20:14.190 --> 00:20:18.190 the verse that I thought of was second Corinthian seven one. Therefore, having 282 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:22.700 these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and 283 00:20:22.779 --> 00:20:29.859 spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God, we can be certain that 284 00:20:30.059 --> 00:20:37.130 God has made promises and that we can trust those promises and that we are 285 00:20:37.369 --> 00:20:41.490 role in the midst of that is to perfect holiness. And how in the 286 00:20:41.609 --> 00:20:45.730 fear of God? Yeah, which is the fear of God, following, 287 00:20:47.009 --> 00:20:52.359 obeying, trusting in awe of what, yeah, he can do. Yeah. 288 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:53.519 I mean, if you think about it in one sense, and I 289 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.759 believe this is borne out biblically, that which we fear becomes God to us. 290 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:06.150 M and if your fear is, and your main fear is coronavirus, 291 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:07.589 you think about it. What is it? What is a God? I 292 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:12.390 say this in a little g terms, a goddess, something you give sacrifices 293 00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:18.700 to. A God is something that you you work to appease and you want 294 00:21:18.779 --> 00:21:22.980 to be reverent of and be careful around, at least in the human mentality. 295 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.019 And people are like that toward the coronavirus. I mean, this thing 296 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:30.859 has their fear, and I'm I'm not trying to throw people under the bus 297 00:21:32.019 --> 00:21:36.809 that are afraid of this and are cautiously using wisdom and all of that. 298 00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:41.490 That's not what I'm trying to do. But we can't be in constant fear 299 00:21:41.529 --> 00:21:44.930 of this virus or any other thing that's going on in this world, because 300 00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:48.119 it ultimately will become God to us and it consumes our thoughts and it consumes 301 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.640 our heart, energy and all of that. Ultimately, the Bible tells us 302 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.000 we should fear the Lord. We give reverence to him. Yeah, we 303 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.789 defer to him, we don't, and we're forced to do it. And 304 00:22:00.910 --> 00:22:07.430 once sense is to kind of craft our lives around the coronavirus, make sacrifices, 305 00:22:07.509 --> 00:22:10.230 make changes to our lives. You think about it. When you became 306 00:22:10.230 --> 00:22:15.710 a Christian, immediately changes came in your life based on this God that now 307 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:18.779 you fear, and you were able to make changes and sacrifices in your life, 308 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.700 do things that are sort of abnormal for you before you became a Christian. 309 00:22:23.059 --> 00:22:27.059 Think about how we're doing that as a society now, even as individuals, 310 00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:32.809 where we're crafting our lives and doing things in our lives to try to 311 00:22:32.930 --> 00:22:36.569 appease coronavirus that that we don't yeah, we don't want to mess with that 312 00:22:36.650 --> 00:22:37.650 thing. We don't want to make it angry. Right. You know, 313 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:41.690 it's the mentality, yeah, that a lot of us are dealing with. 314 00:22:41.009 --> 00:22:45.359 Yeah, and and you know, in taking control of what we are certain, 315 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.160 I don't want that them to then think, well, there's certain that 316 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.400 abortion is the answer know, what we're certain of is that the six commandment 317 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.910 is that shall not murder. Yeah, that abortion violates that commandment of God 318 00:22:59.230 --> 00:23:03.309 and that God is the one ultimately who holds eternity in their hands, not 319 00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:08.549 this virus. It's God will did. He's the one that ultimately, you 320 00:23:08.670 --> 00:23:14.059 know, saves us or doesn't save us from from covid and and saves us 321 00:23:14.099 --> 00:23:18.579 or doesn't save us for for all eternity. So that's who we should like, 322 00:23:18.779 --> 00:23:25.619 you said, fear and we should do what we know he has told 323 00:23:25.660 --> 00:23:27.650 us to do. Yeah, and it certainly is not to kill their child. 324 00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:33.650 Yeah. So how about this next one of faith? This one, 325 00:23:33.690 --> 00:23:37.890 I use a lot it during this covid period. I think I've I've started 326 00:23:37.970 --> 00:23:41.920 using this a lot of faith that is only trusted when things go well is 327 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:48.160 not sustaining faith. Covid, I think, has not created a lack of 328 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.319 faith, it's revealed it. Yeah, because it's such an overwhelming circumstance in 329 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.549 so many people's lives and it's so terrifying to so many people. So if 330 00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:07.869 someone claims to have faith, well, will they have faith through this terrifying 331 00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:11.019 circumstance? Right, yeah, and you think about it, God. God 332 00:24:11.059 --> 00:24:18.220 allows things to come into our lives so that we can see really is our 333 00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:21.660 faith genuine? God knows. God knows if our faith is genuine, but 334 00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:23.690 it helps us to judge our own hearts. Yeah, faith is really borne 335 00:24:23.769 --> 00:24:29.690 out where the rubber meets the road. It's not just in some profession of 336 00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:33.890 your mouth that you trust the Lord, but when it really matters, do 337 00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:37.529 you trust the Lord? And I think that can be communicated, and I 338 00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:40.720 have communicated that with young men and young women, and I know you have 339 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.119 to in front of an abortion clinic, and it can be communicated in a 340 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.240 gracious way, not an accusatory way, because we want to be careful in 341 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.680 this scenario that we're not just coming across as accusatory. But you're not trust 342 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.789 in God? You should trust God? No, but you can say things 343 00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:59.789 in such a way and you can ask questions, you know, and I 344 00:24:59.910 --> 00:25:03.390 think that really is helpful as saying, Hey, if you if you claim 345 00:25:03.430 --> 00:25:08.339 to trust God, do you really trust him in situations where it's really hard 346 00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:11.259 to trust him, because that's where your trust is born out. Yeah, 347 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.339 really, if you're going to go in that abortion clinic, are you trust 348 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:21.299 in God? Often Times you can get these women to admit because they believe 349 00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:25.730 that this baby is precious and that God would never have them take the life 350 00:25:25.769 --> 00:25:27.970 of the baby. But, as I say, sometimes they put their but 351 00:25:29.170 --> 00:25:32.369 in the way. They know what it is to obey God. Yeah, 352 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.329 and we do that, you know, if we're not careful, we do 353 00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.519 that on a regular basis. Where will we know what God says in his 354 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:44.039 word? But until we put our butt in the way of God's of obedience 355 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.079 to God's word, and that's what these women are doing right. So if 356 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.869 we can help them to understand that and see that, are you really trust 357 00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.670 in God? Yeah, trust God. I believe abortion is wrong, but 358 00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.549 what don't you see how you're you're kind of putting your butt in the way 359 00:25:56.630 --> 00:26:00.829 of God's Treeth. Maybe not say it that way, but maybe you do. 360 00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.829 I don't know. It could be helpful, but just helping them to 361 00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:07.660 understand what trust in God actually looks like, that it doesn't just look like 362 00:26:07.859 --> 00:26:11.619 words, it looks like actions. Yeah, and if you're trusting the Lord 363 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:14.740 and you believe that he would never have you to have an abortion and that 364 00:26:14.859 --> 00:26:17.980 he's faithful and he's been faithful in the passing and be faithful in the future. 365 00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:22.650 Why not just leave this place right? I also think it's helpful in 366 00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:30.690 that it is exposing really whether they have submitted their lives to God. I 367 00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:36.000 believe that probably most of the women coming to an abortion center probably have not. 368 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.160 Yeah, but most of them, I think, would tell me yes, 369 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.119 they have. In fact, most of them do tell me, yes, 370 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.190 I have, right, and when you start asking questions like you suggested, 371 00:26:48.430 --> 00:26:55.109 then they come to a realization. Maybe I'm not following God, maybe 372 00:26:55.150 --> 00:27:00.029 I haven't trusted God, and I think that is really important, because then 373 00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:03.259 you can take them to the next step. Well, when do you intend 374 00:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.140 to start? Yeah, how about right now? Because right now God is 375 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:11.940 putting before you an opportunity. That is difficult and if your faith is to 376 00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:17.450 grow, like any muscle, it's it needs to be exercised, and here's 377 00:27:17.450 --> 00:27:21.609 an opportunity for you to exercise that faith and trust him in this, this 378 00:27:21.849 --> 00:27:26.049 hard thing. The the verse that came to me, or the story really, 379 00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:29.970 was the story of David and Goliath. Yeah, in trusting God, 380 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.880 because David had been trained, and this is another principle of spiritual growth, 381 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.839 David had been trained in the smaller right things. Right, maybe you'd like 382 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.160 me, the lion in the bear right, guarding his his father's sheet. 383 00:27:44.390 --> 00:27:47.589 Yeah, on the back side of the pasture. Yeah, and that's where. 384 00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.789 That was the training ground for David and ultimately lopping off the head of 385 00:27:51.829 --> 00:27:56.150 that giant, defeating the the army of the Philistine and that was a hard 386 00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:59.619 thing. I mean he was facing the whole rest of the army is cowering, 387 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:03.180 right, and this little boy, yeah, with no armor. Yeah, 388 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:06.819 and he took that giant down. And how did you do it? 389 00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:10.740 About trusting the Lord, that's right, but not being more afraid of the 390 00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:15.650 giant than he was of the Lord. Yeah, and that's the personally, 391 00:28:15.049 --> 00:28:22.529 from my experience as a young father, imagining having a child when I was 392 00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:26.720 seventeen years old was a Goliath. Yeah, and the anxiety and the fear 393 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.440 that came with that was more than I could handle and my own strength. 394 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.599 Yeah, and by God's grace he gave me the ability. Now, I 395 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.720 didn't become a Christian immediately, but I know it was about God's grace that 396 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.269 I embraced fatherhood and did what God had called me to do. Yeah, 397 00:28:41.390 --> 00:28:44.670 and I don't know my wife will say the same. Being a young mother 398 00:28:44.789 --> 00:28:49.109 in that situation. So in many of these women know the story of David 399 00:28:49.109 --> 00:28:52.430 and Goliath. Sti Sharing, like you, like you said earlier, these 400 00:28:52.470 --> 00:28:56.259 Biblical stories of the faithfulness of God and what God can do, can help 401 00:28:56.579 --> 00:29:00.660 these women to relate to these certain truth I think so, because covid is 402 00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:06.180 a giant. That's the word. Giant is such a perfect word right for 403 00:29:06.579 --> 00:29:10.130 so many of the struggles that we face, because they do feel like coming 404 00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:15.289 against a giant. And back to something you said. You said you were 405 00:29:15.369 --> 00:29:21.569 not a believer at the time that you embraced fatherhood. Not yet. But 406 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:26.759 I believe, I have seen it over and over again that when we walk 407 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:34.880 as though we believed, God helps to increase our faith. For one thing, 408 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.390 we see his goodness. Right, you saw, I'm sure you saw, 409 00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:45.750 the benefits of that precious child. Yeah, and when you see that 410 00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:48.390 and you see, oh, what I almost did, and it begins to 411 00:29:48.509 --> 00:29:53.180 change your thoughts to but look what God, maybe, yeah, prevented me 412 00:29:53.380 --> 00:29:56.579 from doing, and look at the benefit, and I think you do. 413 00:29:56.940 --> 00:30:03.619 When we walk fourth and obedience, even before we are really fully aware of 414 00:30:03.779 --> 00:30:08.410 who were walking towards, I think God so graciously moves us even closer towards 415 00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:11.849 a true saving faith. Yeah, absolutely, God, know that happened in 416 00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:18.609 my life. Yeah, yeah, in a certain sense we have to trust. 417 00:30:19.130 --> 00:30:22.240 Yeah, I don't know how is to articulate this, but we have 418 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.759 to trust the Lord for these women, do you know what I'm saying? 419 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.240 So they've got to take that step of faith and they got to trust the 420 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.720 Lord. But what I mean by that is we've got a share from our 421 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.150 I guess more than new thing, share from our own testimony, like we've 422 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.950 trusted the Lord and we've seen his faithfulness. So that maybe that's what I'm 423 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:41.750 trying to say, is we need to talk about what God has done in 424 00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:45.309 our lives to help infuse hope in them, to say, Hey, God 425 00:30:45.390 --> 00:30:48.670 did this for me. That's why we will share my testimony. I know 426 00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:52.420 that's why you'll share what God has done in your life. We share a 427 00:30:52.539 --> 00:30:57.019 testimonies because our testimonies help other people to overcome because we're not special, right. 428 00:30:57.180 --> 00:31:02.380 I don't think I'm some special person that God somehow would move on behalf 429 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:07.089 of me and nobody else know if God moved on my behalf, and I 430 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.730 know me. I'm not a very not a very good guy. Apart from 431 00:31:10.730 --> 00:31:14.009 Christ. If he would move them my behalf, then he would move on 432 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.049 behalf of these moms these dad's, because he's faithful and he's good and he's 433 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:22.839 merciful and he's kind. Sharing our testimony is a powerful way to bring God 434 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.720 into the equation, to combat fear in the coronavirus situation, any other situation 435 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.440 than we're dealing with. Yeah, because ultimately, the Gospel is the only 436 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:40.150 answer to this terrible future that we're all gazing at right now. The only 437 00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:44.390 answer is that there's a God who loves us, a God who has called 438 00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:48.819 us to obey him no matter what. Yeah, no matter what is surrounding 439 00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:52.900 us, no matter what our circumstances are, situation is, and in fact 440 00:31:52.900 --> 00:32:00.380 that's sort of the last point. Following God and encouraging these women to follow 441 00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:07.289 God despite fear brings great reward. Yeah, it's not just that you follow 442 00:32:07.369 --> 00:32:10.849 God and you know when you die at least you're going to go to heaven. 443 00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.809 And Yeah, life is going to be pure hell until they're not right, 444 00:32:14.970 --> 00:32:20.559 but following God brings reward. And so Genesis fifteen one is a great 445 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.440 verse to remind them of this. After these things, the word of the 446 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.880 Lord came to Abram in a vision saying do not fear, Abram, I 447 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.509 am a shield to you. Your reward shall be very great. Yeah, 448 00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:37.150 so God was encouraging Abram at that time. He was Abraham, not yet 449 00:32:37.589 --> 00:32:44.380 renamed Abraham, but his his reward was going to be great. And God, 450 00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:47.900 I love that that image. God is a shield to him. Yeah, 451 00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:52.940 so God will protect him. Yeah, God prevents the slings and Arrows 452 00:32:53.700 --> 00:33:00.049 from wounding him. Right, and ultimately it come ms in, because that's 453 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:02.289 the goal for us, not just, I don't minimize by saying just, 454 00:33:02.609 --> 00:33:07.450 but not just to have this mom choose life for her baby, but ultimately 455 00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:12.450 to see her trust in the Lord, to see her her life given to 456 00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:15.000 him, and then the Lord, because we've seen him do it so many 457 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:21.440 times, the Lord turn that life around and use her and that child for 458 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.119 his glory and for their good. Yeah, it's like when God is glorified 459 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.069 through our lives, we read the benefit from that. Now, as you 460 00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:31.589 said earlier, we're not talking all their troubles are going to go away and 461 00:33:31.990 --> 00:33:35.869 immediately seon. As they choose life and they put their trust in Jesus, 462 00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:37.750 they're going to find a great job and get a brand new car and all 463 00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:42.819 this other stuff, but we are talking about just practically the provision that God 464 00:33:43.019 --> 00:33:46.940 brings in the faithfulness of God in these situations. God does promise to provide 465 00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:52.019 for our needs. Yeah, you know, the Bible tells us God will 466 00:33:52.059 --> 00:33:55.809 provide all of our needs according to as riches and glory, not a prosperity. 467 00:33:55.890 --> 00:34:00.609 Preach your message, because it does say needs, not wants. Right, 468 00:34:00.089 --> 00:34:04.289 he's not going to send a BMW necessarily, and I maybe if you 469 00:34:04.410 --> 00:34:07.009 need it he will, but I doubt that he will, because I out 470 00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:10.000 anybody needs that. The point is, though, that God is faithful and 471 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.800 God brings provision. The Devil's a liar and in the devil often times operates 472 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.920 in the realm of fear and uses fear to drowned out faith and trust. 473 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.909 And so, as side will counselors is those are ministering to abortion minded women 474 00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:29.630 in the midst of this pandemic, we need to bring faith into the equation. 475 00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:31.469 Yeah, we need to bring the character of God into the equation, 476 00:34:31.550 --> 00:34:36.030 that God is faithful, and we do that, course, by sharing stories 477 00:34:36.070 --> 00:34:38.420 from the from the word of God, like we shared about earlier, also 478 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:44.500 about sharing testimonies. If you guys have a testimony of God being faithful, 479 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.659 and I'm sure you do, sharing that testimony, whether it has to do 480 00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:52.659 with pregnancy or or anything to do with abortion or coronavirus or anything about what 481 00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:55.650 we talked about. Just talking about the faithfulness of God helps encourage people that 482 00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:59.889 they can trust him. Yeah, and I think we all have a story 483 00:34:59.969 --> 00:35:04.369 of fear in the face of uncertainty, which I think is at the crux 484 00:35:04.449 --> 00:35:10.400 of the coronavirus fears did the uncertainty, and Abraham is actually a perfect story 485 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.199 of that, because he was told by God go to a land. I'm 486 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:16.840 not going to tell you what it is. Yeah, but you're going to 487 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.039 go and you'll be the father of many nations. And they're old and his 488 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.469 wife is infertile, right, you know I mean, if that's not like 489 00:35:23.710 --> 00:35:30.510 looking at a very uncertain future and promise and wondering how on Earth could this 490 00:35:30.909 --> 00:35:36.739 possibly be brought about? But Abraham goes. Yeah, and he faces a 491 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:38.739 lot of struggle. There's a lot of struggle and there's a lot of backsliding 492 00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:44.940 even in his life, but ultimately God's promises proved true and Abraham did indeed 493 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:50.210 become the father of many nations. Through Isaac and the Israelites, God's people 494 00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:53.809 were finally, ultimately led to the promised land. Yeah, the great reward. 495 00:35:53.849 --> 00:35:58.050 Yeah, and then ultimately Jesus, the Messiah comes through that line. 496 00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:01.449 And, yeah, many are saved around the world who are after the line 497 00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:06.000 of Abraham, which is those who are faithful, those who put their trust 498 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.239 in the Lord. Yeah, so this is awesome to see what the Lord 499 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.800 does, and it's all throughout this podcast we've talked about really two words, 500 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.670 fear and faith. To know that this coronavirus and again, as we started 501 00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:22.190 out, we need to meet people where they're at, not legitimize their fears, 502 00:36:23.309 --> 00:36:28.070 but understand their fears, that they're afraid of the future. They're afraid 503 00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:31.750 of the coronavirus, they're afraid of maybe what the effects of coronavirus may be 504 00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:36.980 on their baby. But bring faith into the equation that God is trustworthy, 505 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:39.340 that God will see them through. They'll put their trust in him. Bringing 506 00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:45.659 faith into the equation and trusting in the Lord will help these women to do 507 00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.289 the right thing, put their trust in the Lord and babies will be saved. 508 00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.929 Yeah. Yeah, and now, in the first few months we were 509 00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.409 seeing an uptick in abortions. Frankly, today we saw Mondays, are used 510 00:36:57.409 --> 00:37:00.250 to be a really, really busy day, it hasn't been in we're thinking, 511 00:37:00.289 --> 00:37:04.840 well, in ascent in maybe coronavirus is helping because keeping young people apart 512 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.760 and so there's not as much need, I guess, in their eyes, 513 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.280 for an abortion. People aren't becoming pregnant. Maybe I don't know, we're 514 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.429 just another little theory running room out there. But, but, but, 515 00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:22.190 yeah, but ultimately, the the main point is that coronavirus is terrible. 516 00:37:22.309 --> 00:37:27.150 It is causing at least it is causing a great deal of uncertainty and fear 517 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:31.659 and we are facing that in the women coming. But that doesn't mean that 518 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:37.219 we don't have an answer. The answer is always the answer. It's Jesus, 519 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:39.739 yeah, the Gospel, its sharing. The the only hope that they're 520 00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:45.329 really ever, is no matter what you face any man. Yeah, all 521 00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:47.130 right. Well, guys, we appreciate you listening to us. If you 522 00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:51.769 have any subjects you'd like for us to cover along this line, along you 523 00:37:51.929 --> 00:37:57.610 sidewalk counseling, sidewalk out reach, abortion clinic ministry or just abortion in general, 524 00:37:57.730 --> 00:38:00.519 that you would like for us to cover. Shoot those ideas over to 525 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.800 us. If you have guests that maybe you would suggest US reaching out to 526 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.480 or you can connect us with that we can have on the podcast. We'd 527 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.679 love to do that. We do appreciate you guys listening and until next time, 528 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:22.550 God bless. Give me our love for love, give me our love 529 00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:35.420 for gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. No thing's too 530 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:37.860 precious in some you