How and When to Introduce The Message of Sexual Purity

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.400 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me Lord, 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:12.070 I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center 3 00:00:12.189 --> 00:00:17.550 Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in 4 00:00:17.670 --> 00:00:21.660 pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 5 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.420 I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Welcome back to the Gospel 6 00:00:35.460 --> 00:00:40.009 Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us and we're going 7 00:00:40.049 --> 00:00:44.689 to try to get right into our subject today, and our subject, as 8 00:00:44.729 --> 00:00:49.530 all of our subjects are, is a gospel centered subject or focusing on what 9 00:00:49.649 --> 00:00:53.520 the word of God says about this particular subject. And of course, it's 10 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.119 in the light of the ministry that we're involved in, on the sidewalks at 11 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:02.159 abortion centers, on these subjects that we cover in this podcast are often time 12 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.189 subjects that either someone reached out and ask hey, how would you handle this, 13 00:01:04.430 --> 00:01:07.790 or things that we personally have encountered and we thought if we talked through 14 00:01:07.790 --> 00:01:11.629 it, it be a blessing to you, guys. And the subject today 15 00:01:11.950 --> 00:01:17.230 is going to be the subject of sexual purity and, in particular, how 16 00:01:17.310 --> 00:01:23.099 to introduce and and talk about the subject of sexual purity with women, primarily 17 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:27.780 at the abortion center, but also men, and we'll probably give you some 18 00:01:29.180 --> 00:01:33.450 scenarios in which we've encountered this and shared this and we'll talk through again with 19 00:01:33.530 --> 00:01:38.890 the Bible says. So, Vicky, maybe just kind of share what encourage 20 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:42.810 you to write this article and then we'll jump right into some of the scriptures 21 00:01:42.849 --> 00:01:45.370 and some of the things that we have to cover for this topic. Yeah, 22 00:01:45.409 --> 00:01:48.319 well, right away, we believe that there would be no abortions if 23 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.159 there is no sexual impurity, that it is sexual sin that leads to abortions. 24 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.959 But very specifically, this comes up all the time. It is an 25 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.280 issue all the time, and one of our counselor's nationally reached out to me 26 00:02:00.590 --> 00:02:05.950 and said, you know, I'm just I need some help in a a 27 00:02:06.189 --> 00:02:12.830 statement that'll stop someone in their tracks and plant a seat for sexual purity. 28 00:02:12.870 --> 00:02:17.259 Yeah, so I thought this would be a good subject for us to then 29 00:02:17.580 --> 00:02:22.419 help people. How do you broach the subject if you have a long time 30 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:25.340 and if you only have a few seconds? Yeah, because it cannot be 31 00:02:25.419 --> 00:02:30.569 ignored. It absolutely has to be addressed, I believe, for anyone that 32 00:02:30.689 --> 00:02:34.530 is ministring outside of an abortion center. Yeah, yeah, and so what 33 00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:37.650 you said, I want to reiterate, and we said this before we even 34 00:02:37.650 --> 00:02:43.050 started recording this this podcast, is that the vast majority of abortions take place 35 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:46.759 because of sexual immorality, right, sex outside of marriage. Primarily, sometimes 36 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.360 it's adulterous situation where you know someone's married to a man and they go and 37 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:00.030 have an adulterous affair with another man. If sexual immorality was not a thing, 38 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:04.710 then abortion would likely not be a thing. You can go of course 39 00:03:04.789 --> 00:03:07.030 think, well, yeah, some women that are married and get pregnant by 40 00:03:07.069 --> 00:03:10.310 their husband have abortions. That does happen. But if you look at the 41 00:03:10.389 --> 00:03:17.099 vast majority, and it's in the hot it's in the ninety percent range of 42 00:03:17.180 --> 00:03:22.740 abortions that take place, they take place because someone had sex outside of marriage 43 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:27.610 and got caught up in a situation they didn't account for. And so though 44 00:03:27.689 --> 00:03:30.449 our primary goal and talking to a mom out an abortion center is going to 45 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:34.210 be talking to her about her baby and trying to convince her not to kill 46 00:03:34.210 --> 00:03:38.810 her baby through abortion, it is appropriate because these women are called up, 47 00:03:38.849 --> 00:03:40.639 just like we were right. We were caught up in a cycle of sin 48 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.319 that leads to death. These women are caught up in that cycle of sin 49 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.560 and death and we want to break that cycle. So we've got to address 50 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.479 the things that get her caught up in that cycle. Like she got pregnant 51 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:58.750 somehow, right, yeah, she got pregnant quite likely because of sex outside 52 00:03:58.750 --> 00:04:01.110 of marriage. Yeah, that's ultimately what brought her to the abortion center. 53 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:04.710 And so if we can address that, and it's not just the women going 54 00:04:04.750 --> 00:04:10.860 into the abortion center it's also women that we've ministered to who maybe have, 55 00:04:11.939 --> 00:04:15.939 you know, a post abortion story. We've encountered them coming out after they 56 00:04:15.979 --> 00:04:19.980 had the abortion and to the sexual purity message can be appropriate there for men. 57 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:23.740 I mean I've literally just to kind of maybe jump the gun a little 58 00:04:23.899 --> 00:04:26.569 bed and go ahead a little bit in this article. I've talked to men 59 00:04:26.610 --> 00:04:30.250 in front of the abortion center weeping their eyes out because they didn't want to 60 00:04:30.410 --> 00:04:31.889 their girlfriend to go and have the abortion. They didn't want to actually, 61 00:04:31.930 --> 00:04:34.930 matter of fact, this happened while I was out in California. Young Man 62 00:04:35.009 --> 00:04:39.959 came walking up to me ask me and the people that are out there please 63 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.800 pray for my girlfriend. I don't want her to do this. I never, 64 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.439 never wanted to be a part of an abortion like this and that of 65 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:50.319 course, his situation was they're not married there had they had sex outside of 66 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.829 marriage, got caught up in a situation that didn't account for and so I've 67 00:04:54.870 --> 00:04:58.149 talked to men in that situation. You have to be sensitive, of course. 68 00:04:58.589 --> 00:05:00.750 You don't want to add insul to injury when you're out there weeping on 69 00:05:00.790 --> 00:05:03.350 the sidewalk and their girlfriends in there to have an abortion. I don't want 70 00:05:03.350 --> 00:05:06.899 to just hammer him with hey, well, you shouldn't have had sex outside 71 00:05:06.899 --> 00:05:11.019 of marriage, you wicked. Center. Right, I want to be gracious, 72 00:05:11.060 --> 00:05:13.899 but also want to be fourth right, Hey, and I've said this 73 00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:18.899 oftentimes, do you see where sin leads? Yeah, the Bible warns against 74 00:05:18.899 --> 00:05:23.290 sex outside of marriage. Do you see that? It's not just because God 75 00:05:23.449 --> 00:05:27.129 wants to withhold something from you? Yeah, but it is actually God cares 76 00:05:27.170 --> 00:05:30.050 about you and doesn't want you to be caught up in situations like this. 77 00:05:30.290 --> 00:05:34.050 That's right, it's his protection. Yeah, and then the third opportunity, 78 00:05:34.089 --> 00:05:40.319 I guess, to be able to talk about sexual purity is for if you're 79 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:44.399 at a place like a Plant parenthood that offers birth control pills. Yeah, 80 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.199 these women there, they may not very well not be there for an abortion. 81 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.319 We hear that all the time. I'm not here for that. I'm 82 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.829 not here for an abortion, but they are there for birth control pills, 83 00:05:54.230 --> 00:06:00.910 and maybe this is your opportunity to prevent a future abortion right by by addressing 84 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.819 the holy sue of sexual impurity, because our sexual immorality, because most of 85 00:06:04.899 --> 00:06:10.019 the times, again, the women going in for the birth control pills are 86 00:06:10.139 --> 00:06:14.259 quite often young, unmarried women. Yeah, and men. So so I 87 00:06:14.379 --> 00:06:16.540 think the first thing that we need to have clear in our heart as well. 88 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:20.050 It will. Is it bad? It's a bad sex outside of marriage? 89 00:06:20.250 --> 00:06:24.209 Certainly, the culture says it's not bad. He says it's not bad, 90 00:06:24.329 --> 00:06:27.769 movies say it's not bad, the songs say it's not bad. Yeah, 91 00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:30.250 but what is the Bible say, which is is our of course, 92 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:38.040 where we go to first for our morals and our what is what we should 93 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.800 be telling others? Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean certainly 94 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.879 it should be a personal conviction to us, but not a personal conviction just 95 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.389 based on our feelings, but based on the word of God. So, 96 00:06:48.550 --> 00:06:51.029 yeah, what does the Word of God say? We can go right, 97 00:06:51.189 --> 00:06:55.910 we can go all the way back to the first, you know, two 98 00:06:55.990 --> 00:06:59.750 books of the Bible. We can see what sexual Sindy, even in Genesis, 99 00:06:59.910 --> 00:07:03.100 but in particular I'm thinking of Exodus and Chapter Twenty, the Ten Commandments, 100 00:07:03.579 --> 00:07:08.220 the Seventh Command you shall not commit adultery, right, which includes all 101 00:07:08.379 --> 00:07:13.180 sexual immorality. So there's the clear foundation there that God is against all sexual 102 00:07:13.259 --> 00:07:18.610 immorality. Any sex outside of marriage is sexual immorality and you know so that's 103 00:07:18.889 --> 00:07:23.610 a clear biblical standard right there. Yeah, but then you've got a few 104 00:07:23.610 --> 00:07:27.889 scriptures that you put out here which are all great from from the New Testament. 105 00:07:27.970 --> 00:07:30.240 And again this is not just a new testament principle. Sex outside of 106 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.279 marriage is a principle since the very beginning because God, God, is the 107 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:40.000 one that created sex. But of course the devil in human beings, in 108 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.629 their willingness to believe the lives of the devil, have really perverted this thing, 109 00:07:44.670 --> 00:07:47.589 yeah, that God has created to be something beautiful inside of marriage. 110 00:07:47.790 --> 00:07:51.269 The devil in human beings have perverted it. Right, but the New Testament 111 00:07:51.310 --> 00:07:55.990 does address sexual sex outside of marriage several times. I'm going to read just 112 00:07:56.069 --> 00:07:59.180 a few passages here. The first one I'm going to read is in First 113 00:07:59.180 --> 00:08:03.699 Corinthians, chapter six and verse Eighteen, where it says flee from sexual immorality. 114 00:08:03.740 --> 00:08:07.139 Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually 115 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:13.889 immoral person sends against his own body. The principle in this particular passage of 116 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:16.730 scripture, I mean you can get into death, we could read the whole 117 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:22.009 context of it, but really the principle kind of remains true through the whole 118 00:08:22.569 --> 00:08:26.480 Bible. Really and why God is against sexual immorality, not just because, 119 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.839 you know, he's grossed out by it or whatever, but it really has 120 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:37.120 to do with God's concerning care for human beings. God cares for us a 121 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.480 lot of times. I'll say I'll say it on the microphone, I'll say 122 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.509 it in one on one conversations, is that when God sets up his standard, 123 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:48.230 and in particular the standard of you shall not commit a Adultri or have 124 00:08:48.350 --> 00:08:52.350 sex outside of marriage, that's standard. We could view that standard one of 125 00:08:52.470 --> 00:08:56.659 two ways. We could view it as kind of a gate to keep us 126 00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:00.860 out of out of enjoying like a beautiful pasture, that God wants to keep 127 00:09:00.860 --> 00:09:05.419 us away from this beautiful place where we could go and have fun and enjoy 128 00:09:05.500 --> 00:09:07.899 life. We can view it like that, yeah, or kind of like 129 00:09:07.139 --> 00:09:11.049 a boundary that God says you can't go because, after all, if you 130 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:13.129 went past that boundary you would enjoy life, and so God wants to hold 131 00:09:13.129 --> 00:09:16.570 something back from you. We can view it like that or we can view 132 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:20.490 it, I think, more accurately or in contrast to that, which is 133 00:09:20.529 --> 00:09:24.250 not accurate at all. God's not trying to just keep something from us. 134 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.080 You can view it, I think, biblically, which is like a guard 135 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.360 rail on a mountain road. Right, you're driving the mountain road. Many 136 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.120 of you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. You see those guard rails. 137 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.799 If you were to look over the edge, you would see there's a 138 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.110 there's a quite a fall that you would have if you went past that guard 139 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:45.549 rail. That guard rail is not there to keep you from enjoying your flight. 140 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:48.909 I want to fly, and so that guard reels hold me back from 141 00:09:48.909 --> 00:09:52.299 flying. That guard rail is to keep you from a heap of destruction at 142 00:09:52.299 --> 00:09:56.059 the bottom of that mountain. And that's what God's Word is. That's what 143 00:09:56.259 --> 00:10:01.299 the Law of God is. It's to keep you from destruction, right, 144 00:10:01.580 --> 00:10:05.299 and that's what this is talking about in this first Corinthians chapter six passage, 145 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:09.210 and I think it's also interesting in that passage that it compares sexual sin with 146 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:15.049 other sins. Yeah, and and that there is something specially dangerous, yeah, 147 00:10:15.049 --> 00:10:18.850 about sexual sin. It's what this would indicate. Yeah, absolutely. 148 00:10:18.129 --> 00:10:20.919 And again, if you look throughout the Old Testament, you look at I 149 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.120 mean I think of a man like David King, David, who was a 150 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.639 prophet, a priest, a man after God's own heart. And yet what 151 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.720 was his demise? It was sexual sin. Right, and again, God 152 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.710 wants us to be warned of the consequences of sexual sin because of the destruction 153 00:10:37.789 --> 00:10:43.350 that comes from it. Things like abortion, like sexually transmitted diseases, like 154 00:10:43.629 --> 00:10:50.179 the destruction of relationships, those things are the result of sexual sin. And 155 00:10:50.419 --> 00:10:56.700 he says here this sin is against your own body. Yeah, against your 156 00:10:56.700 --> 00:11:00.620 own body. So it does destruction to you and to your own body in 157 00:11:00.740 --> 00:11:03.740 so many ways. The next passage, and again you've got a couple of 158 00:11:03.779 --> 00:11:07.090 passages here which I think guys get ahold of this article and read all these 159 00:11:07.129 --> 00:11:11.090 passages be familiar with these, but that he brews chapter thirteen, verse for 160 00:11:11.370 --> 00:11:16.409 passage, and says let marriage be held an honor among all man. That's 161 00:11:16.450 --> 00:11:20.679 a rebuke to our our modern day that marriage is not held an honor right. 162 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.559 Let Marriage be held an honor among all. Let the marriage bed be 163 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:30.960 undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. And here's where 164 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.870 it comes to like like. Yes, God is a just judge, God 165 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:39.230 does have a standard and that standard is for our good. But God, 166 00:11:39.309 --> 00:11:41.750 as a creator, has a right to say what is good and what is 167 00:11:41.789 --> 00:11:48.100 right, for our good, but also because he says so in the Bible 168 00:11:48.179 --> 00:11:52.500 tells us very clearly. Go you go on into revelation, Chapter Twenty one, 169 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:56.299 Verse Eight, where it talks about that these people that will in not 170 00:11:56.419 --> 00:12:00.299 inherit the Kingdom of God but will be put into the lake of fire, 171 00:12:00.340 --> 00:12:05.889 or sexual immoral people. Of course it talks about idolatres and it talks about 172 00:12:05.929 --> 00:12:09.570 cowards and it talks about liars, but the sexual immoral are there too, 173 00:12:09.649 --> 00:12:13.850 and in First Corinthians, I believe, in that same passage in First Corinthians, 174 00:12:13.370 --> 00:12:16.159 chapter six, I think it's first nine, where it says that the 175 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.840 sexually immoral will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and in the passage in 176 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.919 as a Glacian, chapter six, where Paul Talks about those who will not 177 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.960 inherit the Kingdom of God and he talks about shares, about the fruits of 178 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.750 the spirit. After this passage, right before this passage, he talks about 179 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:35.909 the spirit wars against the flesh and the deeds of the flesh are evident. 180 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.470 And he talks about sexual immorality. It's woven through the whole New Testament that 181 00:12:39.629 --> 00:12:43.830 sexual immorality is something that God is not okay with and does not approve of, 182 00:12:43.419 --> 00:12:48.299 that we should oppose. And if we care about people that are in 183 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.179 sexual immorality, because we don't want them to be judged by God, we 184 00:12:52.299 --> 00:12:56.179 need to warn them about this right and I mean you can do it. 185 00:12:56.419 --> 00:12:58.809 You can, you can hold up a sign that says Turner Burn. I 186 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:05.049 guess God could use that. But I think in these situations it's more appropriate 187 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:09.570 for us to address these situations forth rightly but with grace and have a conversation, 188 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.080 especially with the woman who in a broken situation. To just tell her 189 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.440 turn or burn is probably not going to be the best way to approach it 190 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.120 right. But I do think we need to issue warnings as it pertains this 191 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.440 sexual and morality, not just it's a bad idea for you. It might 192 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.190 just affect your body it leads to things like abortion. We can certainly mention 193 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:31.750 those things, but I think we also need to warn them of the fact 194 00:13:31.750 --> 00:13:35.070 that they're going to stand before God and give an account. Yeah, give 195 00:13:35.070 --> 00:13:39.429 them the biblical warning and for also, quite often, if they're in front 196 00:13:39.429 --> 00:13:43.659 of an abortion center, they are they're not happy, not at peace. 197 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:46.860 No, they know that their choices have led them to a place they don't 198 00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:48.860 want to be. So they are open maybe to that message. And I 199 00:13:50.019 --> 00:13:56.129 will often say, well, where did your desire to have sex out side 200 00:13:56.169 --> 00:13:58.370 of marriage lead you? Was it to a place that you wanted to be? 201 00:13:58.850 --> 00:14:03.970 Was this relationship where you wanted it to be? In quite often the 202 00:14:03.169 --> 00:14:07.490 the man, is the one urging the abortion and they're able to see. 203 00:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.519 Well, honestly, sex outside of marriage really did harm them. They are 204 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.679 able to see maybe better than when things are going great and they're not standing 205 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.559 in front of an abortion center. Yeah, but one of the main struggles, 206 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:26.190 I think, is what we alluded to earlier. Cultural norms and oppose 207 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:31.269 us. I mean it is everywhere. The the joy of sex out side 208 00:14:31.309 --> 00:14:33.830 of marriage with none of the consequence, right, none of the fall out. 209 00:14:35.029 --> 00:14:39.820 Yeah, none of the destruction. And because of that you often have 210 00:14:39.899 --> 00:14:46.100 an upward battle in trying to present to them that this is this is not 211 00:14:46.299 --> 00:14:50.980 good. Yeah, I mean, strangely, even in the Christian Christian culture 212 00:14:52.179 --> 00:14:56.929 of America, it's like sex outside of marriage is the norm. It's almost 213 00:14:56.929 --> 00:15:01.490 like you're speaking a foreign language when you you say things like fornication is sin, 214 00:15:01.850 --> 00:15:05.169 and even the word fornication. I actually use the word fornication. Yeah, 215 00:15:05.730 --> 00:15:09.799 it's a maybe, I don't know, an old school word or whatever, 216 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.679 whatever you want to call it's a biblical word, right, and it 217 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.480 has certain connotations to it and if I use the word fornication I'll always explain 218 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.429 what that means. Fornication is any sex outside of marriage, Ye, outside 219 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:24.269 of the covenant of marriage. But yeah, fornication is even like a foreign 220 00:15:24.350 --> 00:15:28.269 term to even to a lot of modern Christians. Yeah, this idea that 221 00:15:28.429 --> 00:15:33.710 secks outside of marriage somehow is not God's will for us. I mean it's 222 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:41.059 again, it's a common biblical reality and for our society and even, unfortunately, 223 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.299 for some of the church, it's a foreign concept to say that sex 224 00:15:43.379 --> 00:15:46.299 outside of marriage is sin, that it's wrong. Yeah, so I have 225 00:15:46.620 --> 00:15:54.129 often found, as I am sharing the truth about sexual purity and that sex 226 00:15:54.210 --> 00:16:02.289 outside of marriage is a sin. Usually the women are surprised. I mean, 227 00:16:02.450 --> 00:16:06.360 on one level they're not when I when I say do you think God 228 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:14.480 approved of sex outside of marriage, they will sometimes say no, he really 229 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:19.789 doesn't, but sometimes they are surprised, which always surprises me. Yeah, 230 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:25.710 but but so how do we, how do we broach that subject? That 231 00:16:25.990 --> 00:16:33.179 is probably one of the most common questions I get regarding this from fellow counselors. 232 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:36.980 How how do you bring it up in in the first place, and 233 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.940 maybe you could share how you do, how I do quite often is I'm 234 00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:47.059 sharing the Gospel. Yeah, and I'm sharing ray comforts, kind of framework 235 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.250 for the Gospel. And when I ask them, are you going to heaven 236 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.009 and Hell? And then I go through a list of sins to show them, 237 00:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.049 hey, you're really not the good person you thought you were. And 238 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:59.529 one of those is always have you ever lusted after someone that you're not married 239 00:16:59.649 --> 00:17:03.200 to? And they almost always, of course, say yes. And then 240 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:10.759 I'll say, well, the Bible calls that adult tree and it's very serious. 241 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.119 And why? Why do you think it's serious? and well, that's 242 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.470 how I get into the subject. And then I'll point out verses that some 243 00:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.190 of them that we've already listed. YEA, and from there we can we'll 244 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:25.789 get into the this is now, again, if you have an extended amount 245 00:17:25.829 --> 00:17:30.740 of time, right when when you have to speak with them. But often 246 00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:34.859 that's how I begin that that discussion. Yeah, yeah, of times I'll 247 00:17:34.859 --> 00:17:38.460 begin the discussion and I do talk to women at the abortion center and I 248 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:41.980 will mention this subject. I'm probably not going to get as in depth with 249 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:48.049 a woman as you would right, but with the men I'll kind of approach 250 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:51.849 the subject just like I explained earlier. If he's there on the sidewalk, 251 00:17:52.089 --> 00:17:55.930 and a lot of times these guys are weeping, they're broken. Sometimes it's 252 00:17:55.970 --> 00:18:00.039 crocodile tears and they're just really feeling guilty and they probably are the one that 253 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.319 brought her there by. But I haven't had men like balling their eyes out 254 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.920 hoping that she would come out of there and not have the abortion. And 255 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.599 so I will introduce the subject of sexual purity by saying something to the effect 256 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.349 of you, do you see where sexual sin leads? I might ask the 257 00:18:15.430 --> 00:18:21.509 question like you do. What do you think God thinks about sex outside of 258 00:18:21.589 --> 00:18:25.829 marriage? And most people, if they mean listen, we all have a 259 00:18:25.910 --> 00:18:29.059 conscience, we all know right from wrong. We all know that sexual sin 260 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:33.299 is wrong. We know that it's wrong. Society has taught us otherwise and 261 00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.579 we believe the lives of society for the most part, but we all know 262 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:41.259 it's wrong. So most men will reply, well, I know it's wrong, 263 00:18:41.730 --> 00:18:45.450 but something like everybody's doing it. It's just what you do, right. 264 00:18:45.730 --> 00:18:49.490 And so I'll continue in the conversation and talking about well, if you 265 00:18:49.569 --> 00:18:52.809 wouldn't have had sex outside of marriage, would you be here in the situation 266 00:18:52.970 --> 00:18:56.759 that you're in? Do you see that God's word, even though maybe you 267 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.079 don't agree with the Bible, do you see that God's word and what God 268 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.319 set forth is the best? Yeah, and I might even get, I've 269 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.910 gotten into some even like statistical conversations about God's ways being the best ways. 270 00:19:10.950 --> 00:19:17.789 Even sociologist and psychologist and all these people would agree that the best context for 271 00:19:17.869 --> 00:19:22.150 a child to be raised in is two parents that are married, two parents 272 00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:26.539 the MOM and the dad. Even have to be specific in this day and 273 00:19:26.579 --> 00:19:29.859 age about that. Yeah, the two parents are a mom and the dad, 274 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.619 for them to be married and to stay married is the best context for 275 00:19:33.660 --> 00:19:36.500 a child to be raised in God's ways are the best ways, and so 276 00:19:36.579 --> 00:19:40.529 I'll have the conversation along those lines. Yeah, those are good. Another 277 00:19:40.730 --> 00:19:44.569 way that I will enter into that discussion is if they have a daughter. 278 00:19:44.809 --> 00:19:48.250 And oftentimes you'll find that out hate or what if you have a daughter. 279 00:19:48.650 --> 00:19:52.329 But if you do have a daughter, would you want your daughter to have 280 00:19:52.529 --> 00:19:55.920 sex outside of marriage or do you want her to wait till marriage? They 281 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.079 almost uniformly say that that they would prefer that they wait. Yeah. So 282 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:07.230 so those are just some some if you have probably a bit of time, 283 00:20:07.349 --> 00:20:10.430 more than more than just a few seconds. Right. But and we already 284 00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:15.509 talked about how sex outside of marriage really does harm us. YEA, and 285 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:22.500 it and it's protective God's commandment that we should be sexually pure. But one 286 00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:25.660 of the things that I encounter a lot, and I think we've discussed this 287 00:20:25.819 --> 00:20:29.500 on other podcast, is people will claim, Oh, I'm a Christian, 288 00:20:29.500 --> 00:20:33.339 I'm a believer, Jesus is Lord of my life. Yeah, and then 289 00:20:33.259 --> 00:20:38.769 well, is he really? If have you submitted every area of your life 290 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:44.890 if you have not submitted in this area? Right, and I think that 291 00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:48.809 is a really important question to ask them. Yeah, yeah, because again, 292 00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:52.839 there is this kind of fight. There's this kind of back and forth 293 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.680 in their minds. When you talk about whether or not six outside of marriage 294 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.240 is right or whether it's wrong. In one breath they'll say, well, 295 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.960 I know it's wrong, and then another breath I'll say it's right and again. 296 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.470 At the end of the day, God's standard is what matters and the 297 00:21:04.509 --> 00:21:10.190 standard of society has no bearing on what. When we stand before God, 298 00:21:10.390 --> 00:21:12.109 what we're going to give an account for? Right, that's right, that's 299 00:21:12.109 --> 00:21:15.829 right. So if Jesus is Lord, we're going to obey him in all 300 00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:21.460 areas of our life, and sexual purity is one of those areas. But 301 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:23.900 what I do encounter, again, I would say most of the time, 302 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:29.819 is their own parents. Yeah, have been sexually impure outside married, they 303 00:21:29.859 --> 00:21:33.289 are are unmarried, or there's no dad in the picture at all. Their 304 00:21:33.369 --> 00:21:37.250 role models are terrible. That doesn't excuse it, but it helps you to 305 00:21:37.369 --> 00:21:42.210 understand they have never had anyone model. Yeah, what the Bible is saying 306 00:21:42.609 --> 00:21:48.680 is the ideal. Yeah, and so you are working against a culture, 307 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:53.359 and you really are. You need to shift their world view and we obviously 308 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.599 can't do that on our own power. That's a major task. Yeah, 309 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.960 certainly in the few minutes that we might have. But God can do it 310 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.750 and his word can do it and the conviction of his word, and so 311 00:22:03.829 --> 00:22:07.990 that's why it's so important going back to kind of where we started. Know 312 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:11.950 what the Bible says. Yeah, have those verses ready. I just want 313 00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.539 to say that one of the count that the same concert that asked me this 314 00:22:15.660 --> 00:22:19.420 question. Then, after I discussed with her what I do, she said, 315 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.859 you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make a postcard 316 00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:26.220 with with some of these main points that were raising right now, with some 317 00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:30.329 of these verses, and I'm going to hand it out to women, because 318 00:22:30.849 --> 00:22:34.170 I often don't have the time, but then you've got a hand out that 319 00:22:34.490 --> 00:22:37.210 can speak for you when you know, when you're not there, and I 320 00:22:37.250 --> 00:22:41.809 thought that was a great idea and she actually made a great hand out. 321 00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.839 Yeah, for these women. Yeah, yeah, I think having something because 322 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.559 again, like we've talked about, often times what you're doing is planting seeds 323 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.759 and water and seeds. Yeah, quite likely, especially here in the south, 324 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.920 when you're talking about sexual morality, you're just reiterating things that they have 325 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.630 already heard in church, they already know right, and reinforcing again with their 326 00:23:00.670 --> 00:23:04.509 conscience already says is right and wrong. You're handing them a piece of literature 327 00:23:06.029 --> 00:23:11.269 again. There's that's more seeds planted or watering other seeds. Yeah, what 328 00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:15.019 a share just a kind of briefly, a situation, a story where I 329 00:23:15.099 --> 00:23:18.740 was talking to a young man. This is we had a young lady that 330 00:23:18.859 --> 00:23:22.059 came here to the abortion center. She came on board the mobiltra sound, 331 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:26.539 you know, ended up choosing life's awesome story. I mean she was visibly 332 00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:30.490 pregg that. It was a couple years back, and she ended up calling 333 00:23:30.569 --> 00:23:34.170 me up on the phone. She had some situation going on with the boyfriend, 334 00:23:34.210 --> 00:23:37.170 with the father of the baby, and she was like, I want 335 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:41.319 you to come and just basically set him straight. And of course she needed 336 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.000 to be set straight to you because they were having sex outside of marriage. 337 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.160 So one of the female counselors ministered to her. Anyway, Long Story Short, 338 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.240 we end up in a restaurant when got the guy, took him out 339 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.079 to eat, just talking to him and kind of got him to share his 340 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.950 story and share what's the contention between him and his girlfriend and all this stuff, 341 00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:02.630 like Hey, your dad now, Dude, you need to step it 342 00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:07.589 up, he starts sharing like all these like basically, well, she had 343 00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:10.980 sex with my my friend, and then I so I had sex with her 344 00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:14.299 friends, like all this, like yeah, my Oh gosh. I said, 345 00:24:14.339 --> 00:24:17.660 wait, wait a minute, yeah, one second. You know, 346 00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:22.339 you're human being, like you're not an animal. You don't have to be 347 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.450 given to the whims every time you feel like you need to go and have 348 00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:30.289 sex with someone, like you just have to surrender that God has made you 349 00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:33.730 for so much more. So I started speaking like encouragement. Also rebuked the 350 00:24:33.769 --> 00:24:37.410 guy to like, man, you're a human being, you're not an animal 351 00:24:37.569 --> 00:24:41.799 that's just given to all your passions and lust and stuff. It really speaks 352 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.799 to what the word of God says, and the word of God says talking 353 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.160 about the fruits of the spirit. One of those fruits of the spirit is 354 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:53.630 self control. Human beings can have self control, but of course, like 355 00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:57.069 you said, you've got to be born of the spirit. And so of 356 00:24:57.150 --> 00:25:00.750 course I share the go gospel with this young man. He didn't strender his 357 00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.869 life to Jesus at that point, but he leaves had an encounter with the 358 00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:07.859 truth and I think his men. We need to encourage the young men that 359 00:25:07.900 --> 00:25:11.619 we encounter at the abortion center, to step it up, to do before 360 00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:15.500 God what they should do, rather than taking advantage of women and dropping him 361 00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:18.779 off at an abortion center. To be a man, yeah, to not 362 00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.690 take advantage of women, but protect right, protect women, of course in 363 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:26.809 children and of course, like you have in this article and we just talked 364 00:25:26.849 --> 00:25:30.970 about, show them the result of their sin. Don't you see? Because 365 00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:34.130 here's he's talking about this, you know he can't trust her, she can't 366 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:38.640 trust him because of all this sexual immorality going around in their community. Like 367 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.200 Gosh, what a mess. And so able to just clearly lay out to 368 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.279 him, don't you see what a mess your life is? Don't you see 369 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.990 what a mess you, following your own passions, the whims of your flesh, 370 00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.029 is creating? or You can't even trust your own best friend? You 371 00:25:53.069 --> 00:25:57.029 can't even trust your girlfriend, she can't trust it's just a mess. Yeah, 372 00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:02.109 and I think he was able to see the destruction that comes from disobeying 373 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:07.460 God's Word and that kind of goes into what we labeled on the article that 374 00:26:07.579 --> 00:26:14.220 we wrote about thought provoking questions, asking questions and finding out, you know, 375 00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:18.220 what what the background is, but then asking those questions that help them 376 00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:22.410 to reassess what caused this mess in a general way. What caused this mess 377 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:26.730 in your life? They he was able to conclude, I assume that his 378 00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.170 mess was caused. He at least had a had a confrontation with that truth, 379 00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.200 that's for sure. Yeah, whether or not the Lord changed his life 380 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.960 and he surrendered to God's will in that situation, I hadn't heard back from 381 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.680 him. Yeah, well, and sometimes when seeds I was water, and 382 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.559 that, I think, is key. We are planning seat and then remember, 383 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:52.029 don't be discouraged. You are working against really an entire world view culture 384 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:56.430 that is so pervasive. It would almost be a miracle if someone said you 385 00:26:56.630 --> 00:27:00.670 are right and I'm never going to have sex aget outside of merit. Yeah, 386 00:27:00.710 --> 00:27:03.019 that would probably not be the norm. And so don't be discouraged. 387 00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:08.740 I do see this area oftentimes, I will still see women submit or people 388 00:27:08.779 --> 00:27:14.420 submit their lives to the Lord, and this area remains a difficult area. 389 00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:19.329 Yeah, but I have seen people grow in in the as they walk with 390 00:27:19.410 --> 00:27:22.769 the Lord and as they come really are convicted more and more by the Lord 391 00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:26.529 to grow in this area. So this I think it's a really hard area 392 00:27:27.049 --> 00:27:33.319 for people to just instantaneously change and to know it might be a process. 393 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.599 It doesn't mean all hope is lost. It doesn't mean that they aren't really 394 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.640 have an encountered God, but that it might be a process of them growing 395 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.549 and understanding the truth of what you're trying to convey. Yeah, absolutely. 396 00:27:45.589 --> 00:27:49.509 Yeah, and I think, listen, let's just be real. You can't 397 00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:52.710 give of what you don't have. Yeah, and so we ourselves. Now 398 00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:56.630 I will say, as you just shared, it would be a miracle if 399 00:27:56.750 --> 00:27:59.539 God took someone out of that. God did that for me. Yeah, 400 00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:03.099 I was a fornicator before I came to know the Lord and certainly after I 401 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:07.099 came to know the Lord. There were some temptations there and there was some 402 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:11.740 sexual sin that I fell into. Yeah, not fullblown, you know, 403 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:15.970 sex outside of marriage, but other sexually immoral things and temptations. I put 404 00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:21.809 myself situations I'll put myself into and by God's grace, he took me out 405 00:28:21.849 --> 00:28:26.200 of that stuff. He grew me in to the process of sanctification. Right, 406 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.839 sanctifying me, making me more like Jesus. But I kind of bring 407 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.480 that around to listen, we can't give what we don't have if we're not 408 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.799 walking in holiness before the Lord. If we're not keeping our eyes, ourselves, 409 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.750 as ministers of the Gospel, pure from sexual immorality, if we're not, 410 00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:47.190 if we're not keeping our hands pure from sexual immorality, then we need 411 00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.269 to check our own hearts and may even need to step back. I would 412 00:28:49.269 --> 00:28:52.190 say definitely, if you're involved in sexual immorality, you need to step back 413 00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:56.700 from trying to minister to other people whose problem with sexual immorality and get that 414 00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:03.140 thing right before God. Yeah, confess that sin to someone, a another 415 00:29:03.259 --> 00:29:07.259 man that would hold you accountable, or another woman, if you're a woman, 416 00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:11.049 that would hold you accountable and listen. Could because if you're a believer 417 00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:17.250 in Jesus, this is what this first Corinthians Pass is written to believers to 418 00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:22.329 warn them about the results of sexual immorality. If you fall victim, or 419 00:29:22.250 --> 00:29:25.799 they've all victim, fall prey. I guess that's the same. Yeah, 420 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.240 terminology. Give into that temptive, into it and fall into sexual sin. 421 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680 It doesn't necessarily mean you you lose your salvation and you're longer a Christian, 422 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:41.309 but certainly you set yourself up to being snared by the devil. And I've 423 00:29:41.349 --> 00:29:45.150 seeing people start out really well, serving God, walking with the Lord, 424 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:48.150 and give themselves to sexual immorality and months later they don't want to have anything 425 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:52.019 to do with God. Yeah, exactly. Are All sin dark and snowballing, 426 00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.740 doesn't it from him from one to into the next. So I say 427 00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.019 that just we need to check our own hearts and then, of course, 428 00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:02.819 as we've been cleansed before God, we want to see others cleansed as well. 429 00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:07.059 And I will share my testimony. I've shared my testimony of being a 430 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:10.009 fornicator and God save me out of that. And if God did it for 431 00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:14.089 me, he can do it for anybody. Yeah, because, man, 432 00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:18.170 I was really steeped in it and he rescued me from it. And to 433 00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:22.359 our testimonies are powerful and how God has rescued us from sexual immorality. Yeah, 434 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.119 which is another great tip, and at the end of this article we 435 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.839 do list a few practical tips. I'll just go for them really fast. 436 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.079 Have handouts with sexual purity scripture. Yeah, talk about the negative effects of 437 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:38.829 promiscuity, stds, whatever, give some of those statistics, offer community alternatives, 438 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:45.349 to plan parenthood and have handouts on the path to salvation, because ultimately 439 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.589 that is, like you said that that is what is. That's what the 440 00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:52.940 cure is. Yeah, and remember that we're planting seats with all of those 441 00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:56.019 yeah, all those things. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Well, guys, 442 00:30:56.059 --> 00:31:00.059 we hope this episode was a blessing to you. We would encourage you, 443 00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:03.180 guys, to share this episode with others. Maybe you think it would 444 00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.769 be an encouragement to someone else that's in sidewalk ministry, or maybe someone that's 445 00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:11.569 not currently involved in sidewalk ministry. Send it out, share it with friends, 446 00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:14.569 reach out to us. Let us know what you think about this podcast 447 00:31:14.609 --> 00:31:17.490 episode. In the other episodes, let us know maybe if there are other 448 00:31:17.569 --> 00:31:19.200 subjects you'd like for us to cover, we'd love to try to cover those 449 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.839 subjects. You could reach me, Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You 450 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.880 can reach her Vicky I love life dot Org. We'd love to hear from 451 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.680 you, but until next time, God, bless God, bless y'all. 452 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:45.470 Give our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. I know 453 00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:53.819 it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious in some you