Nov. 11, 2021
Grumbling and Complaining in Ministry

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There is always the temptation to grumble and complain about the hardships we experience in life and ministry. In a ministry as intense as this the temptation can even me stronger. In the episode, we talk about how to resist the temptation to grumble...
There is always the temptation to grumble and complain about the hardships we experience in life and ministry. In a ministry as intense as this the temptation can even me stronger. In the episode, we talk about how to resist the temptation to grumble and complain and instead embrace an attitude of gratitude and joy.
WEBVTT100:00:00.880 --> 00:00:06.080I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me,200:00:06.440 --> 00:00:11.669Lord, I am yours, Iam yours. I'm welcome to the300:00:11.750 --> 00:00:17.629Gospel Center pre life podcast, apodcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge400:00:17.670 --> 00:00:21.660you in pro life ministry and alwayswere the focus on the Gospel. Stay500:00:21.739 --> 00:00:32.820tuned, I felt show Passish,touch your heart, use me love.600:00:35.140 --> 00:00:39.810Welcome back to the Gospel centered prolife podcast. Appreciate you guys listening and,700:00:39.929 --> 00:00:43.409as always, would appreciate if youguys would share this podcast episode and800:00:43.850 --> 00:00:48.810if you would give us a review. Leave US review on Itunes or however900:00:49.009 --> 00:00:54.240else you get podcast. We wouldlove to combat some of the negative reviews1000:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.240that we've had from pro abortion people, although we see that as a badge1100:00:57.280 --> 00:01:03.000of honor we praise God for everytime we are persecuted or marginalized for the1200:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.750name of Jesus, and we tryour best to have a good attitude and1300:01:07.909 --> 00:01:12.469not to grumble and complain about whatpeople say against us. Jesus said it1400:01:12.709 --> 00:01:17.030that people would if they hated me, Jesus said, then they're going to1500:01:17.109 --> 00:01:23.420hate you, and so us beinghated and maligned by people is just kind1600:01:23.459 --> 00:01:29.299of a natural outflow of our identificationwith Jesus, and we're going to talk1700:01:29.299 --> 00:01:33.370about that today. Actually, wedid a podcast, hopefully you guys listen1800:01:33.489 --> 00:01:38.209to last week that came out aboutjoy and US having joy on the sidewalk1900:01:38.290 --> 00:01:42.329and knowing the Lord is what bringsjoy to us and we can have joy2000:01:42.409 --> 00:01:46.170on our faces and enjoy in ourlives and joy in our hearts. That2100:01:46.370 --> 00:01:49.719is conveyed to the women going inthat don't have joy. They could help2200:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.319us to really just be compelling forthem to come over and talk with us2300:01:53.359 --> 00:01:59.879and we need to have joy.We're going to kind of contrast this episode2400:01:59.959 --> 00:02:05.349with that episode in a little alittle bit or in some ways, because2500:02:05.390 --> 00:02:09.830we're going to talk about the titlethe article that you wrote here's the dangers2600:02:09.990 --> 00:02:15.219and antidote to grumbling in sidewalk ministry. And I think as a lot of2700:02:15.500 --> 00:02:20.780just like our joy topic, alot of our topics, you can you2800:02:20.819 --> 00:02:23.020can apply this to any any ministry. The ministry that we're involved in and2900:02:23.180 --> 00:02:28.539we're talking about in this podcast isthe sidewalk ministry at abortion centers. But3000:02:28.580 --> 00:02:35.250I think there's dangers and biblical antidotesto grumbling and complaining in any area of3100:02:35.409 --> 00:02:39.009ministry or any area. We're like, quite honestly, yeah, you know,3200:02:39.169 --> 00:02:45.039not just ministry. Yeah, sowe're going to talk about the dangers3300:02:45.120 --> 00:02:51.599of grumbling and the antidote to grumblingin light of sidewalk ministry. But again3400:02:51.680 --> 00:02:58.590we can apply this to many areasof life and warnings and rebukes throughout the3500:02:58.629 --> 00:03:07.710scriptures about grumbling or I mean cash, so, so many that we won't3600:03:07.710 --> 00:03:09.389be able to touch on all thescriptures where God rebukes. Even, of3700:03:09.430 --> 00:03:14.219course, the children is are aboutgrumbling. But even the New Testament,3800:03:14.699 --> 00:03:21.020the Bible warns us about grumbling andabout complaining. And so let's jump into3900:03:21.020 --> 00:03:25.099a Vikulous talk about grumbling and thedangers of grumbling and the antidote. Yeah,4000:03:25.180 --> 00:03:29.490the Bible gives us. Yeah.Well, I think a great place4100:03:29.610 --> 00:03:36.530to start as the the verse Philippiansto fourteen do all things without grumbling or4200:03:36.650 --> 00:03:42.599disputing, and that's a really importantverse. It says do all things without4300:03:42.639 --> 00:03:49.120grumbling or disputing. And we're ina difficult ministry. We've talked about that4400:03:49.199 --> 00:03:57.189a lot. It is a Ministryof rejection. Lot of unjust actions are4500:03:57.349 --> 00:04:04.030taken against us, a lot ofcruelty, even from the pro abortion crowd4600:04:04.550 --> 00:04:11.699and I think it is easy forus to justify our complaining. Yeah,4700:04:11.699 --> 00:04:15.939and I know until I wrote thisarticle, that was kind of where I4800:04:15.339 --> 00:04:21.540was. I hear it from everyone. I am guilty of it, very4900:04:21.660 --> 00:04:26.889guilty of it, not just onthe sidewalk, to be frank, but5000:04:28.129 --> 00:04:34.569but particularly on the sidewalk. Andas I was working on this article I5100:04:34.810 --> 00:04:42.000realized more and more, Wow,not only is this not godly behavior,5200:04:43.240 --> 00:04:51.480but it is damaging behavior and,in contrast to our podcast last time,5300:04:53.750 --> 00:05:00.750it detracts from the joy that wefeel out there and therefore is a danger5400:05:00.269 --> 00:05:04.949in taking us away from the sidewalk. And I think indeed we have lost5500:05:04.949 --> 00:05:14.779sidewalk counselors because they become so discouragedfor by the pro abortion group. Yeah,5600:05:14.899 --> 00:05:19.180so this this was born. Thispodcast, this article came out of5700:05:19.259 --> 00:05:27.970again, real life experiences on thesidewalk with fellow counselors and I was just5800:05:28.170 --> 00:05:34.689becoming very aware that a lot ofour time was spent complaining about the pro5900:05:34.720 --> 00:05:42.120abortion crowd. Everything that was saidwas true. They it, they really6000:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.959are rough and and it really isuncalled for. It. It is childish6100:05:48.000 --> 00:05:55.550and sometimes very cruel, but itI realize more of our time was spent6200:05:55.750 --> 00:06:04.019discussing that, sometimes than praising Godor praying. While while we were out6300:06:04.060 --> 00:06:10.100there and I thought this is thisis probably worth discussing, because I can't6400:06:10.100 --> 00:06:16.860imagine our teams are different from anyoneelse, that anyone out on the sidewalk6500:06:16.939 --> 00:06:23.449in such a difficult ministry is,I think, likely to fall fall prey6600:06:23.529 --> 00:06:29.569about to this. Yeah, yeah, in some cities, and I know6700:06:29.769 --> 00:06:33.879here in southern California, we don'tyet have a lot of pro abortion presence.6800:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.879So there's not yet a lot ofopposition. I say yet because I6900:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.879think it's probably coming up. toldthe folks here that it's a badge of7000:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.680honor if pro abortion people show upbecause you know that you're being effective.7100:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.750Now pro abortion people haven't yet showedup out here. Maybe a few random7200:06:48.750 --> 00:06:51.870people here and there. So Idon't mean to say that they're not effective.7300:06:51.870 --> 00:06:56.829There's certainly the teams here being veryeffective, but it's told them expect7400:06:56.949 --> 00:07:00.269this. These pro abortion people aregoing to come along. But I will7500:07:00.310 --> 00:07:04.420say that they're not the only reasonfor grumbling. There could be other things.7600:07:04.699 --> 00:07:10.100Laws that are passed that are hinderingwhat you're doing, or at least7700:07:10.100 --> 00:07:13.300seeking to hinder what you're doing.That's happening here in California. Laws that7800:07:13.339 --> 00:07:17.209are passed to really intimidate and makepeople feel like can we even be out7900:07:17.250 --> 00:07:23.889on the sidewalk? Also interactions withpolice officers. That can be a point8000:07:23.930 --> 00:07:29.970for grumbling and just being just havinga negative attitude. The lack of involvement8100:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.120of the church. It's like where'sthe church at? And this is this8200:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.319is a real problem here, andso I just want to kind of kind8300:07:35.360 --> 00:07:43.240of lump all these these points ofcontention or points of discouragement in together,8400:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.350because they can all serve to getus in an attitude of grumbling. In8500:07:46.470 --> 00:07:51.149something I think that I've shared onthis podcast before that I kind of use8600:07:51.189 --> 00:07:55.269as a term around our house,and this will tie into this. This8700:07:55.430 --> 00:08:01.220this whole grumbling subject, grumbling andcomplaining, is your attitude determines your altitude.8800:08:01.220 --> 00:08:05.540Yeah, right, yeah, ifyou want to fly above the situations,8900:08:05.579 --> 00:08:07.660you want to soar above the situations, then have a good attitude,9000:08:09.259 --> 00:08:11.620but if you want to be underit and you want to be under oppression9100:08:11.660 --> 00:08:18.610and depression and discourage, then justhave a bad attitude. And really the9200:08:18.810 --> 00:08:24.810gateway to just a bad attitude isgrumbling right and complain. Yeah, yeah,9300:08:24.089 --> 00:08:30.800and it can quickly devolve into gossip. I think it sometimes starts off9400:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.000as grumbling and you feel justified andthen they're starts to creep in, making9500:08:35.200 --> 00:08:46.429fun of whatever you're grumbling about orname calling whatever you're grumbling about or telling9600:08:46.669 --> 00:08:50.710stories about whomever you're grumbling about,and that that's clearly, clearly gossip.9700:08:52.190 --> 00:08:58.220I do want to say that whatI don't want to convey two people is9800:08:58.659 --> 00:09:05.259that there is not a legitimate placefor sharing one another's burdens and and you9900:09:05.340 --> 00:09:09.690know, I'll go back to theexample of the pro abortion crowd. There10000:09:09.769 --> 00:09:16.289are they've sometimes brought us to tearsand there there are times when we just10100:09:16.690 --> 00:09:24.639really do need to unload on anunderstanding friend or fellow counselor who's been through10200:09:24.720 --> 00:09:31.399it, yeah, in order tokind of brush that off and and move10300:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.879on. So I think there isa legitimate place for that, but that's10400:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.549not what really what we're talking about. It can be what we're talking about,10500:09:41.549 --> 00:09:48.950but I think, I think whenwe start just complaining about things that10600:09:50.350 --> 00:09:54.539honestly, we should expect these peopleare not saved, they don't know God.10700:09:54.500 --> 00:10:00.539We honestly should not be surprised thatthey're not acting in an honorable,10800:10:00.580 --> 00:10:05.940God fearing manner. Right. Thisis just what we would expect. And10900:10:05.139 --> 00:10:11.370and so when I was thinking aboutwhen is it okay to grumble, and11000:10:11.450 --> 00:10:16.210I grumble is probably not the correctword in that case, but when,11100:10:16.289 --> 00:10:22.720I think it's important to ask ourselvesbefore we start grumbling, will my complaining11200:10:22.879 --> 00:10:31.360or bringing up up this issue doanything to evoke change in a positive,11300:10:31.120 --> 00:10:37.230God honoring way? Yeah, andjust complaining about them being who they are11400:10:39.309 --> 00:10:43.990in terms of talking about the proabortion people. I don't see how that's11500:10:43.110 --> 00:10:48.269going to in any way honor Godor bring about change. And in fact,11600:10:48.309 --> 00:10:54.419what I do see is it ittakes our focus off of our mission11700:10:54.460 --> 00:10:58.299and it kind of brings everybody down. Everybody suppressed because this isn't going to11800:10:58.419 --> 00:11:05.370end. How, Oh, whatis me? Yeah, so, so11900:11:05.649 --> 00:11:09.529I would say grumbling is destructive.It's destructive and we were just talking about12000:11:09.529 --> 00:11:13.450before the podcast. I think it'sone of the most famous examples of grumbling12100:11:15.450 --> 00:11:24.200is poor Moses as he's leading theIsraelites across the Promised Land and they pretty12200:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.679much right away start grumbling and complainingthey're being led to freedom, out of12300:11:28.879 --> 00:11:37.429slavery. And I guess what whatwe would expect is gratitude and joy and12400:11:37.750 --> 00:11:41.110praise, but that's not really whathappened at all. Know now, I12500:11:41.230 --> 00:11:45.909was actually reading that in my timewith the Lord this morning. In Exodus12600:11:46.750 --> 00:11:52.179and they are of course, Goddelivers them with miraculous signs. And does12700:11:52.220 --> 00:11:58.379all these things in Egypt really provethat the false gods of Egypt, or12800:11:58.460 --> 00:12:01.129just that false God's brings the childrento Israel, out, brings them to12900:12:01.169 --> 00:12:05.370the Red Sea, and then ofcourse the army of Pharaoh is coming,13000:12:05.370 --> 00:12:09.250because Pharaoh's heart's been hardened again andhe's going to come and bring the children13100:12:09.289 --> 00:12:15.090of Israel back into Egypt. Andyou know, one point they're grumbling and13200:12:15.169 --> 00:12:20.000they're complaining and they say it's kindof funny the way that it's worded in13300:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.679the scripture. Are there no gravesin Egypt? You know, do you13400:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.279bring us out here because there wereno graves, there was no grave plots,13500:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.230less and need you. That's whyyou brought us out here to die.13600:12:31.029 --> 00:12:33.629And you know, in a senseit's like, and this is where13700:12:33.629 --> 00:12:37.029we have to check our hearts,when we're complaining about a sick situation,13800:12:37.070 --> 00:12:41.669when we're complaining about a circumstance thatwe're in, are we complaining against the13900:12:41.830 --> 00:12:48.100Lord? Are we accusing him ofnot not being wise and not caring about14000:12:48.139 --> 00:12:50.659us? and think about the childrenof Israel, right. I mean,14100:12:50.779 --> 00:12:54.980of course God cared about them.He heard their cry in Egypt and he14200:12:54.100 --> 00:13:01.049delivered them through these miraculous means.And yet so their accusation is not just14300:13:01.289 --> 00:13:05.129it's not against just Moses, butit's against the Lord himself and the Lord's14400:13:05.169 --> 00:13:09.769deliverance. And you know, Ithink this can apply to sidewalk ministry,14500:13:09.809 --> 00:13:13.559though I don't think that many ofyou that are listening, that are doing14600:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.879sidewalk ministry, have that same mentalityas the children of Israel. Did you14700:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.000have an attitude of gratitude toward theLord and all of that? Yet we14800:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.159can slip into that mentality. It'slike we can almost have mentality of God.14900:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.000Did you call me to this ministryjust so people can call me names15000:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.909and Malay find me? Did youcall me this ministry just so women can15100:13:31.029 --> 00:13:35.590cuss it me as they're going ininstead of responding to me positively? And15200:13:35.789 --> 00:13:39.909that really kind of goes back tothe podcast we did some months ago about15300:13:39.909 --> 00:13:43.580the motivation for ministry and I encourageyou guys, if you haven't, please15400:13:43.700 --> 00:13:48.539listen to that, because that canreally, I can really squash a lot15500:13:48.580 --> 00:13:52.820of this stuff if you have awrong motivation for ministry. Of Your motivation15600:13:52.980 --> 00:13:56.570from ministry is that you're going tobe out there and be the savior of15700:13:56.649 --> 00:14:00.809all these babies and these MOMS andall this stuff. You're going to be15800:14:00.889 --> 00:14:03.090sadly disappointed when they're cussing at you. Now God will use you to say15900:14:03.169 --> 00:14:07.409babies. We do believe that.I can just trust that. The Lord's16000:14:07.450 --> 00:14:09.960going to use you for sure,but that can't be our primary motivation.16100:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.320A primary motivation has to be alove for God. Is What we're doing.16200:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.039We're doing it in obedience to him. The victory is in obedience and16300:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.159when our motivation is right, thenit will guard our heart against grumbling.16400:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.789But I'll tell you, there's alwaysthe potential that we're going to grumble in16500:14:26.909 --> 00:14:28.669complain and I think, as yousaid, Vicki, there can be a16600:14:28.789 --> 00:14:33.909fine line between us sharing our birdand sharing our concern sharing. I mean16700:14:35.509 --> 00:14:39.980I'm thinking about the police officers.We've got a knucklehead police officer in Charlotte.16800:14:39.460 --> 00:14:43.620That has caused us a lot ofproblems and seems like he goes out16900:14:43.620 --> 00:14:46.419of his way to cause US issues. Do we need to talk about that17000:14:46.460 --> 00:14:48.659as a group? Yeah, wedo. We need to talk about that.17100:14:48.820 --> 00:14:52.289We need to talk about you know, we we've had some fun sometimes17200:14:52.370 --> 00:14:58.289and and just you know, hekind of looks like a cartoon character a17300:14:58.370 --> 00:15:01.610little bit. So if people kindof use that analogy, close to the17400:15:01.769 --> 00:15:05.450line there, though, of arewe having I think we're coming close to17500:15:05.570 --> 00:15:09.679the line. Yeah, or arewe? Are we making fun of an17600:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.000is that God honoring? So yeah, that was one of the things actually17700:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.440that that a fellow counselor brought upto me, because you very what I17800:15:18.519 --> 00:15:26.269thought was good natured was actually mockingsomeone and and he pointed out that that's17900:15:26.350 --> 00:15:28.950kind of gossip that. Yeah,I love you and respect you, but18000:15:30.110 --> 00:15:33.750have you considered that? So,anyway, sorry, didn't mean to interrupt.18100:15:33.990 --> 00:15:37.259Interrupt you there. I mean Ithink that and again I think that18200:15:37.539 --> 00:15:43.179fact there goes back to a podcastwe did about the body of Christ working18300:15:43.220 --> 00:15:48.100together and about burying one another's burdensin the fact that we need each other.18400:15:48.379 --> 00:15:52.049We need each other to help whenwe cross over that line, somebody18500:15:52.129 --> 00:15:56.169that's going to call us out andsay hey, we getting into the realm18600:15:56.250 --> 00:15:58.730of grumbling and complaining and we're gettinginto the realm of gossip. Yeah,18700:16:00.090 --> 00:16:03.330and to help us will this thingback, because at the end of the18800:16:03.370 --> 00:16:06.039day, what we want to dois honor Jesus. Right, we want18900:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.519to honor Jesus and what we're doing. Of course we we've got to share19000:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.279our burdens. We've got a share, and sometimes we can do it in19100:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.000a funny way, we can doit in a way that you know we19200:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.590don't have any malicious intent behind it, because we've got to relate each other19300:16:21.750 --> 00:16:25.190and I think part of the Camaraderieand part of the connection that we have19400:16:25.629 --> 00:16:29.309with each other's they're sort of likethese in inside jokes that we can tell19500:16:29.309 --> 00:16:33.059about sidewalk ministry and all that stuff. But it can step over a line19600:16:33.100 --> 00:16:36.779and it can get into where we'rejust in a negative attitude, we're in19700:16:36.860 --> 00:16:41.580a grumbling and complaining attitude, andso we need to check our hearts before19800:16:41.620 --> 00:16:45.539the Lord and check each other rightso that we don't get into this attitude19900:16:47.139 --> 00:16:52.210of grumbling and we're ultimately accusing Godby grumbling against him, because at the20000:16:52.250 --> 00:16:55.409end of the day, we believethat he called us to this ministry and20100:16:55.649 --> 00:16:59.250the things that are happening in thisministry, though they're not within his perfect20200:16:59.289 --> 00:17:03.039will, he certainly knew those thingsare going to happen and those things can20300:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.359serve. Actually, the opposition thatwe receive from pro abortion people, police20400:17:07.440 --> 00:17:12.039or whatever it might be, canbe things that God uses to help us20500:17:12.079 --> 00:17:17.029grow to be more like Jesus.Again, let's look at the example of20600:17:17.109 --> 00:17:21.269Jesus. Was He maligned? WasHe marginalized? Was He spoken against?20700:17:21.670 --> 00:17:25.470The people lie about him? Yes, yes, yes, and yes.20800:17:26.470 --> 00:17:29.630How did he respond? And hecertainly did call things what they were.20900:17:30.900 --> 00:17:33.980He called the Pharisees a brood ofsnakes. You'd know that he did it21000:17:34.180 --> 00:17:37.819not out of malicious intent, butout of speaking the truth and warning the21100:17:37.900 --> 00:17:42.660people about these snakes, these broodof snakes, and also to confront these21200:17:42.740 --> 00:17:48.809Pharisees with their sin and the rebellionagainst God. So yeah, again there21300:17:48.849 --> 00:17:51.890can be this, this fine line. We do need to guard our hearts,21400:17:51.930 --> 00:17:56.289we do need to make sure thatwhat we're saying, we're like before21500:17:56.329 --> 00:17:59.720the Lord. This this honors theLord and this doesn't get me into a21600:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.359mindset of one of the brothers herelocally says, of stinking thinking. We21700:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.720don't want to get in that mindsetof just stinking thinking right, constantly saturating21800:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.480our minds and our hearts with grumbling, with complaining, with negative stuff,21900:18:11.640 --> 00:18:18.029with these people do this, thisperson did that. We've got to come22000:18:18.109 --> 00:18:21.670back around to the fact in ourminds and our hearts that Jesus Christ is22100:18:21.750 --> 00:18:23.789our Lord, like we talked aboutin the joy podcast. We belong to22200:18:23.910 --> 00:18:29.900him. He's our Lord. Weneed to have joy, not just not22300:18:30.180 --> 00:18:34.019grumbling and complaining. Yeah, yeah, thinking about Jesus that you brought up,22400:18:34.140 --> 00:18:37.660that he he calls things like theyare and sometimes he can even be22500:18:38.500 --> 00:18:42.849harsh in his choice of words.But I can't recall a single time that22600:18:42.970 --> 00:18:48.809I would characterize him as grumbling,not a single time. I don't recall22700:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.930any statement like woe is me,you know, look at look at all22800:18:53.009 --> 00:18:57.880that I'm enduring. He just does. He just endures it, and and22900:18:59.079 --> 00:19:04.559usually with silence. He usually doesn'tspeak about what he's suffering at all.23000:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.710The only thing even close to thatmight be when he says, father,23100:19:10.789 --> 00:19:15.990if it is your will, takethis Cup from me, but that's that's23200:19:15.430 --> 00:19:22.150really more just a plea of anguish, as supposed to you know, a23300:19:22.309 --> 00:19:30.019complaint, but in in terms ofsome of the legitimate grievances, like when23400:19:30.099 --> 00:19:33.740you brought up the police. Andwhile I do think there's a fine line23500:19:33.740 --> 00:19:37.660when we start to kind of pokefun at then we got to be careful,23600:19:37.609 --> 00:19:44.009yeah, that we're not, youknow, edging towards disrespect and and23700:19:44.170 --> 00:19:49.569flat out gossip. But when whenwe get together and talk about the police23800:19:49.849 --> 00:19:55.920and the things that we feel wereunfair, we're actually trying to bring about23900:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.599a change. It's not just todiscuss poor, pitiful loss. It really24000:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.200is this is not legal, isit? Can someone look up and find24100:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.880out if this Lee is legal?And oftentimes that you do in that,24200:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.829Daniel, or our what can wedo to alleviate this issue, and talking24300:20:11.950 --> 00:20:17.789to lawyers and finding out what ourrights are and how we confide it.24400:20:18.230 --> 00:20:22.980And I think that that is verydifferent from grumbling. That's trying to take24500:20:22.059 --> 00:20:29.619action to right or wrong, andtrue grumbling, I don't think is.24600:20:30.180 --> 00:20:34.259I think it's just feeling sorry foryourself and complaining about something that, honestly,24700:20:34.380 --> 00:20:38.170you probably have no control over.But some of the things we do24800:20:38.329 --> 00:20:45.130have control over that are not grumblingin terms of against sidewalk ministry. If24900:20:45.569 --> 00:20:52.079we see abusive or aggressive behavior bythe pro abortion crowd or by patients or25000:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.839clients or workers, we definitely needto address that and we should tell each25100:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.880other, we should film it,we and we should seek counsel regarding that,25200:21:03.039 --> 00:21:07.109because that can be dangerous and again, it's something that we can take25300:21:07.230 --> 00:21:14.549action against. If we see concernsof sex trafficking or domestic abuse in the25400:21:14.710 --> 00:21:18.940clients coming into the abortion center,you know we need to talk with each25500:21:18.980 --> 00:21:23.099other about that and maybe call thepolice and and discussed with each other what25600:21:23.259 --> 00:21:29.140do we do in this situation?Some sometimes there's situations we don't know what25700:21:29.420 --> 00:21:33.130to do and we have to talkto each other to try and figure it25800:21:33.250 --> 00:21:41.289out. So that's different and thatis not at all what what we're talking25900:21:41.329 --> 00:21:49.480about. I also have found thatthe more I grumble, besides getting discouraged,26000:21:51.160 --> 00:21:56.160the more negatively I feel about thatperson I'm grumbling against. It feeds26100:21:56.400 --> 00:22:03.910into a negative, destructive, hatefulattitude towards others and again that that that's26200:22:03.950 --> 00:22:11.549not good. Yeah, so,but the next section that I have in26300:22:11.670 --> 00:22:15.700our article, which you kind ofalready talked about, is what's the solution,26400:22:15.779 --> 00:22:21.220and I want to tell you astory that that actually happened this week26500:22:21.819 --> 00:22:25.859out on the sidewalk, which maybethat there were two things that really sparked26600:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.529this are article. This was oneof the things. There was a very26700:22:30.970 --> 00:22:36.250difficult group of pro abortion people.I think there was something like fifteen of26800:22:36.329 --> 00:22:40.970them. They always have number ourteam, and they were inches of our26900:22:41.170 --> 00:22:47.720face, screaming at us, tauntingus, threatening us. They were blowing27000:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.480whistles in our ears, all kindsof other musical instruments right in our ears,27100:22:53.039 --> 00:23:00.910which was painful, and we wereall feeling just weary at the end27200:23:00.950 --> 00:23:06.109of the of three hours of that. We were worn out and we we27300:23:06.309 --> 00:23:10.710struggled to it. I think everyone of us was thinking, did anyone27400:23:10.950 --> 00:23:17.740hear anything of value that we calledout, because the noise and the persecution27500:23:17.900 --> 00:23:22.619was so strong that day. Andone of them, that was the worst27600:23:22.779 --> 00:23:29.569one of them, was just videotaping everything we were doing and getting in27700:23:29.650 --> 00:23:33.930our face and again mocking us.And it was time for us all to27800:23:33.009 --> 00:23:37.369go home. The time had endedand I said, I said should we27900:23:37.529 --> 00:23:42.200pray? And we knew yes,indeed we should pray and I volunteered to28000:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.440be the one to pray. Andas soon as this worst of the offenders28100:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.039of the pro abortion crowd heard thatwe were going to pray, said,28200:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.559Oh, can I pray with you? Can I pray with you, very28300:23:53.680 --> 00:23:59.589mocking. So I did wrestle fora moment thinking should I have said sure,28400:23:59.829 --> 00:24:06.190but I didn't. I just ignoredher and I started praying and and28500:24:06.390 --> 00:24:11.980because I think I needed God andI knew my team needed God so desperately28600:24:11.019 --> 00:24:17.460at that moment I was really,really into that prayer. I was so28700:24:18.220 --> 00:24:22.019focused on God. Sometimes it isn'talways like that, but it was that28800:24:22.220 --> 00:24:27.289time and just really tapping in tothe holy spirit and really feeling that I28900:24:27.490 --> 00:24:34.329was in direct communion with with Godas I'm praying and she was saying things29000:24:34.410 --> 00:24:41.400and trying to distract and I justwas totally into my prayer, which,29100:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.000by the way, is out loudfor the group before we disperse. And29200:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.279then she started singing and I knewshe was singing, but I was not29300:24:49.000 --> 00:24:56.269conscious, at least conscious at allof the words of what she was singing.29400:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.630And continued the prayer and somewhere throughthe middle of the prayer. She29500:25:00.910 --> 00:25:04.190I knew she had left, atleast I no longer registered that she was29600:25:04.309 --> 00:25:08.900there in the prayer ended and andwe all dispersed, went home and it29700:25:08.980 --> 00:25:15.740was later reading the team leads reportof the day and she mentioned that prayer29800:25:17.339 --> 00:25:22.970and mentioned that during that prayer thispro abortion person was singing hail Satan,29900:25:22.890 --> 00:25:29.089and at that everybody else was awareof it. Now I had no idea.30000:25:29.130 --> 00:25:33.769I had no idea. All Ifelt was peace and joy and comfort30100:25:33.049 --> 00:25:41.160in this prayer and to me thatspoke very specifically about our greatest anetote to30200:25:42.759 --> 00:25:49.549to grumbling is to keep our ourheart and mind so focused on God that30300:25:49.990 --> 00:25:56.710nothing else enters and it is asthough you're looking right through all those people30400:25:56.950 --> 00:26:02.309trying to discourage you, that youno longer see your hear them because you're30500:26:02.349 --> 00:26:06.940so focused on what God has calledyou to do and on his presence and30600:26:07.140 --> 00:26:12.180his holy spirit guiding and enabling youto do that. Yeah, I mean30700:26:12.259 --> 00:26:17.819it comes back to where our focusis. It comes back to what our30800:26:17.900 --> 00:26:22.369motivation is. We're not out theretoo we're not out there just to say30900:26:22.450 --> 00:26:26.250babies, we're not out there justto be heard. We're out there to31000:26:26.369 --> 00:26:30.730obey God and if it comes towhere our voices are being drowned out by31100:26:30.809 --> 00:26:36.079pro abortion people or whatever, youknow, opposition comes against us, we're31200:26:36.119 --> 00:26:40.839not out there for them. We'renot out there to feel good about ourselves31300:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.400or out there to glorify Jesus.Yeah, and we've got to keep our31400:26:45.440 --> 00:26:52.509focus on him. I know wheneverthoughts and bad attitudes come kind of across31500:26:52.549 --> 00:26:55.670our radar, of course one ofthe ways that can bat that is to31600:26:55.750 --> 00:26:59.349pray. Yeah, when you're outthere on the sidewalk and there's there's this31700:26:59.549 --> 00:27:03.299ability and I think this this subjectgrumbling ties into the subject of discouragement and31800:27:03.420 --> 00:27:07.460dealing with discouragement, which we diddo a podcast about long time ago,31900:27:10.740 --> 00:27:14.700is bringing our petition to the Lord. That's one of the keys to overcoming32000:27:14.779 --> 00:27:18.809discouragement, overcoming not getting into becausediscouragement can lead into grumbling. That's kind32100:27:18.809 --> 00:27:22.930of the progression of things. Youget discourage, you start grumbling, you32200:27:22.970 --> 00:27:26.809start complaining, then you start accusingGod and then you start even question in32300:27:26.849 --> 00:27:32.039your calling and all that stuff.Before he gets to there. We need32400:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.640to do, if you look atthe psalms, we need to do what32500:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.559David did in the psalms where he'sbringing his can, his petition, and32600:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.440it seems like in some of thepsalms like he's complaining to the Lord,32700:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.789like, God, where are youin this situation? Like we can be32800:27:45.950 --> 00:27:51.430honest before the Lord, but weneed to come back around like David does32900:27:51.950 --> 00:27:55.990to your God, you're the Lordover it all. I belong to you.33000:27:56.029 --> 00:28:00.819You're not beholding to me and youknow, I think checking our attitude33100:28:00.900 --> 00:28:03.980between us and the Lord is itvery important then, of course, the33200:28:04.019 --> 00:28:07.380dynamic of other folks helping us tocheck our attitude. Yeah, so that33300:28:07.460 --> 00:28:11.099we're not getting this whole round ofjust being a grant. Yeah. Yeah,33400:28:12.170 --> 00:28:22.289act sixteen is a great example ofnot grumbling but doing replacing that with33500:28:23.170 --> 00:28:26.400turning our thoughts. Are Folk usin our heart on the Lord, and33600:28:26.519 --> 00:28:33.359I actually I think I copied youprobably all know that it's such a great33700:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.119story in the book of acts,but I'll read or do you want to33800:28:37.160 --> 00:28:42.470read that? In in acts likesixteen, it's the full story, is33900:28:44.990 --> 00:28:48.789well, it goes through the wholechapter of acts, but the crux of34000:28:48.869 --> 00:28:53.349it is in verses twenty two,two to thirty. Yeah, yeah,34100:28:53.470 --> 00:28:57.619so to kind of condens it justa little bit and you guys probably again34200:28:57.700 --> 00:29:03.940we'll know the story where Paul andSilas were thrown into prison because Paul cast34300:29:03.019 --> 00:29:06.579a demon out of this girl whowas possessed by a demon. Right.34400:29:07.460 --> 00:29:10.970And they're there in prison now,and we've talked about this passage, I34500:29:11.009 --> 00:29:12.890think, before as well, orat least we've talked about acts chapter four,34600:29:12.970 --> 00:29:17.769when Peter and John were thrown intoprison for preaching the name of Jesus.34700:29:17.809 --> 00:29:21.769This is a similar scenario where Pauland Silas were thrown into prison for34800:29:21.890 --> 00:29:26.880casting out the demon proclaiming the nameof Jesus. Anyway, they're there in34900:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.319a not so nice scenario. WhoMean? We think about jail, we35000:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.160think about prison in this day andage. You didn't have TV's, you35100:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.519didn't have a library. There you'rein a nasty, filthy place, probably35200:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.710rats and all this, which theydidn't belong to. They did they they35300:29:41.750 --> 00:29:45.470didn't deserve to be in it.Would they were false charged, false accusations35400:29:45.509 --> 00:29:48.470and they thrown in prison. Theyhad every right to grumble, if someone35500:29:48.549 --> 00:29:51.549has a right to grumble, right, yeah, right, yeah, they35600:29:51.670 --> 00:29:53.980certainly would have. But order theybegin to do they began to worship,35700:29:55.660 --> 00:30:00.819they began to sing. Yeah,singing praise to the Lord in the midst35800:30:00.819 --> 00:30:03.940of that filthy, rotten place thatthey didn't deserve to be in. And35900:30:04.019 --> 00:30:07.769the Bible says that the place thatthey were was shaking. The prison house36000:30:07.849 --> 00:30:12.650was shaken and immediately all the doorswere open and everyone's chains were unfastened.36100:30:12.650 --> 00:30:15.930So they were released. They werepraising God, they were singing hymns of36200:30:17.009 --> 00:30:21.049praise, the Bible says, toGod, and the prisoners were hearing this36300:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.359stuff. So that's a testimony.When we praise the Lord in the midst36400:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.720of persecution, in the midst ofopposition, and we can worship and we36500:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.640can praise the Lord, it's awitness to those around us, for sure,36600:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.390and in this situation it calls anearthquake from the Lord that shook the36700:30:37.430 --> 00:30:41.589foundations of the prison and release theirchains, not just their chains, but36800:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.150other people's chains. And there's listen. This will preach, let me tell36900:30:44.150 --> 00:30:48.109you, because you praising God inthe midst of opposition rather than grumbling and37000:30:48.309 --> 00:30:52.980complaining, can also bring freedom toother people. Right it can help other37100:30:53.019 --> 00:30:57.220people get free, and this isapplicable to on the sidewalk. Whenever you37200:30:57.420 --> 00:31:02.660decide in the midst of opposition,to be thankful, to have gratitude toward37300:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.930God, to going back to thatacts chapter for or I think it's it's37400:31:06.930 --> 00:31:11.890later on in acts chapter six,I believe, when Peter and the apostles,37500:31:11.930 --> 00:31:14.609I think it was Peter and JohnAgain, were beaten for the name37600:31:14.650 --> 00:31:18.490of Jesus and they left rejoicing thatthey had been found worthy to suffer for37700:31:18.569 --> 00:31:22.240his namesake. So if we cantake that kind of attitude, man,37800:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.240that is contagious and in this situation, the analogy would be the not only37900:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.799were their chains released, but thechains of everyone else. Yeah, that38000:31:32.950 --> 00:31:36.509was there people who weren't worshiping andpraising God, but people who are overhearing38100:31:36.549 --> 00:31:38.710this thing. So you this canbring freedom to other people in the sidewalk38200:31:38.829 --> 00:31:42.190is you're worshiping and praising God inthe midst of persecution, your other sidewalk38300:31:42.269 --> 00:31:47.579counselors, people who are probably fillingthe same temptation to grumble into be like38400:31:47.779 --> 00:31:52.220why are we even here? Whatevercan actually that fire can actually spread to38500:31:52.259 --> 00:31:56.900them. It can also spread.As you were speaking, I realized what38600:31:56.019 --> 00:32:02.009an incredible example and picture that is. When we do that, when we38700:32:02.210 --> 00:32:07.769turn the persecution and prays to theMOMS themselves, because what we are asking38800:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.930of them oftentimes, I'll directly saythis, don't put your eyes on your38900:32:10.970 --> 00:32:15.759struggles, don't put your eyes onyour circumstances. Put Your eyes on Jesus.39000:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.839Don't give into the to your fearsand your struggles in your troubles,39100:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.680but keep bringing your eyes back tothe Lord. And that is what that's39200:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.839what we're asking them to do,and they see that, if they see39300:32:29.000 --> 00:32:34.109us doing that in the midst ofthe persecution that we are receiving, not39400:32:34.309 --> 00:32:38.390on the side bucket. That isa powerful statement, a powerful word.39500:32:38.509 --> 00:32:44.339Picture will not word, picture,powerful visual of what we're telling them.39600:32:45.099 --> 00:32:50.180And if, instead, what theysee is as grumbling, fighting, returning39700:32:50.660 --> 00:32:55.819the Machrian and the insults, withfurther in salt, smocking or whatever from39800:32:57.019 --> 00:33:04.890us, all we've shown them isjust go and do whatever you want and39900:33:05.049 --> 00:33:08.130ignore what God has has called youto do, because that's basically what we're40000:33:08.210 --> 00:33:13.519doing. We are not called tocredible or to persecute. Those who persecute40100:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.799us. Know we're called a magnifiedJesus, and that's what they were doing40200:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.000ultimately, and you guys know thestory this, this jailer who was going40300:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.160to take his own life because ifa prisoner got loose, his life was40400:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.910going to be taken anyway. Right, he's responsible for them staying in prison.40500:33:30.750 --> 00:33:34.430Ultimately, Paul says don't harm yourself, leads him to the Lord,40600:33:34.470 --> 00:33:39.150baptizes him and his whole family.So this attitude, in the midst of40700:33:39.269 --> 00:33:45.180persecution and opposition, of praise andThanksgiving to the Lord, rather than grumbling,40800:33:45.180 --> 00:33:46.859rather than saying all, we're inthis filthy prison, we don't deserve40900:33:46.980 --> 00:33:50.700to be here. God, weren'tyou protecting us? Weren't you watching out41000:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.460for us? Like what's going onhere? Lord? Instead of that attitude,41100:33:53.460 --> 00:33:58.569they praise God, prison doors areopen, people are set free.41200:33:58.690 --> 00:34:02.930This guy comes into the Lord andsole family. So this is like really41300:34:02.970 --> 00:34:08.369a strong motivation for us to havean attitude of worship and praise to the41400:34:08.449 --> 00:34:14.239Lord, and an attitude of worshipand praise can combat an attitude of grumbling41500:34:14.320 --> 00:34:19.960and complaining. So we have tomake this, this this conscious, volitional41600:34:20.280 --> 00:34:28.030decision, because when we are experiencingwish back and we are experiencing persecution or41700:34:28.070 --> 00:34:30.150whatever it might be, there isalways going to be that temptation to grumble,41800:34:30.230 --> 00:34:35.230complain, to make it about us. We have to make that conscious41900:34:35.230 --> 00:34:38.820decision to say, Nope, I'mgoing to I'm going to shun those feelings42000:34:39.500 --> 00:34:44.139and I'm going to embrace an attitudeof worship and praise. And sometimes we42100:34:44.260 --> 00:34:46.460have to do it even if wedon't feel it right. And sometimes it42200:34:46.659 --> 00:34:51.619means you getting out your smartphone,even out there on the sidewalk, and42300:34:52.059 --> 00:34:54.650pulling up a song on Youtube ofworship and just begin to worship Jesus,42400:34:55.130 --> 00:34:59.929just begin to pray. Sometimes itmaybe it's let's gather the whole group together,42500:34:59.929 --> 00:35:01.170the whole sidewalk team in together,and let's just pray. Let's just42600:35:01.210 --> 00:35:06.210have a time of prayer before theLord. Let's give the situation to God.42700:35:06.329 --> 00:35:10.719We have to make conscious decisions toto not grumble but to magnify Jesus,42800:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.519to worship him and to thank him. And we can even do what42900:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.880they did here, thank him,praise him, even the midst of prison,43000:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.670or like the apostles there in theearly part of acts, where they43100:35:22.789 --> 00:35:25.869praise him that they were accounted worthyto suffer for his namesake. Yeah,43200:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.269yeah, and so and and wecan use each other to help bring about43300:35:30.630 --> 00:35:35.739that transformation and how we're thinking abouttrials and persecution. And so I've got43400:35:35.780 --> 00:35:37.460to tell you another story. Andthe second thing. I told you there43500:35:37.500 --> 00:35:40.940were two things that sparked this article. The one was when it happened to43600:35:40.980 --> 00:35:47.579me and out on that sidewalk.The second was I was meeting for a43700:35:47.699 --> 00:35:54.730podcast with Daniel and he said howis your day and I I I think,43800:35:54.969 --> 00:36:00.050grumbled and said it was really roughand and told them you would not43900:36:00.170 --> 00:36:07.199have believed the pro abortion group todayand I was describing what we had endured44000:36:07.920 --> 00:36:15.840and and his response to me,your response was I'm glad you got to44100:36:15.039 --> 00:36:21.110have that experience. And I remember, I still remember those works and I'm44200:36:21.190 --> 00:36:23.909like it just took totally took thewind out of my sales. I'm like44300:36:24.630 --> 00:36:34.780what Boa and I realized immediately youwere right and I said, I think44400:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.099I said it with a little bitof tongue in cheek, but I said44500:36:38.139 --> 00:36:46.210you're right. I counted a privilegethat today I was able to suffer for44600:36:46.809 --> 00:36:52.449Jesus. But what became just inhonestly tongue and cheek at the moment,44700:36:53.210 --> 00:37:00.210became my reality. I realize itchanged me. That changed me I just44800:37:00.409 --> 00:37:04.320thought it was so unexpected. Ithought you're using such a nice guy,44900:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.960Daniel. I thought you, Ithought you would start telling me, you45000:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.400know. Oh, poor Vicky,I'm so sorry. That must have been45100:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.909really rough. But but your responsewas the perfect response, because what it45200:37:17.989 --> 00:37:24.630did was snapped me out of anattitude of grumbling and complaining into an attitude45300:37:24.750 --> 00:37:30.820of you know, it is.Got Surprised by that persecution. Does God45400:37:30.900 --> 00:37:35.099not know about that? Did hethink I was worth you know, did45500:37:35.139 --> 00:37:37.300he want me to suffer? Youknow? No, God has a purpose45600:37:37.420 --> 00:37:43.380and a plan. And when weremember that, that includes I mean we45700:37:43.460 --> 00:37:46.969are in a fallen world, buthe could remove us at any moment from45800:37:47.010 --> 00:37:52.849that persecution. He could remove thepersecutors at any moment. Yeah, but45900:37:52.010 --> 00:37:58.289he doesn't. And if he doesn't, there is something greater going on.46000:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.239And and I do think a lotof it probably has to do with are46100:38:04.360 --> 00:38:09.039we going to trust him no matterwhat? And and the no matter what,46200:38:09.760 --> 00:38:15.030if you're in sidewalk ministry, thatis going to include opposition. And46300:38:15.230 --> 00:38:20.030just no matter what, be preparedto praise and follow and keep your focus46400:38:20.150 --> 00:38:24.510on God. And I will sayanother thing is grumbling is a huge time46500:38:24.630 --> 00:38:29.219drain on all of us. Iwas training someone yesterday and I don't think46600:38:29.260 --> 00:38:34.579she was truly grumbling. I thinkshe was just overwhelmed, overwhelmed by what46700:38:34.739 --> 00:38:37.699she was seeing. She had neverseen the opposition like that. But so46800:38:38.380 --> 00:38:44.329much of the time was spent saying, yeah, that's who they are,46900:38:44.969 --> 00:38:49.409that's what they are. Can weget back to who we are and what47000:38:49.530 --> 00:38:53.369we're called to be doing? Yeah, yeah, I think we have to47100:38:53.409 --> 00:39:00.599remember that God doesn't have a vestedinterest in keeping US comfortable. Right.47200:39:01.159 --> 00:39:07.119God has a vested interest in makingus more like his son Jesus, and47300:39:07.400 --> 00:39:13.389he will use things like persecution andhe will use opposition and he will use47400:39:13.550 --> 00:39:17.389false accusations and all those things,because all those things were experienced by Jesus.47500:39:19.349 --> 00:39:21.989God will use those things to growus to be more like Jesus.47600:39:22.750 --> 00:39:28.980The question is, will we?Will we respond appropriately? And going back47700:39:29.099 --> 00:39:31.059to the example, and if youwant to look at examples of what grumbling47800:39:31.139 --> 00:39:37.059and complaining will do and how itwill shipwreck your walk with God and your47900:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.170entrance into the Promised Land and tothe rest of God, look no further48000:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.449than the book of Exodus. Asthe children of Israel or brought through the48100:39:44.489 --> 00:39:46.530Wilderness and they're brought, and evenat the very beginning to the Red Sea.48200:39:46.849 --> 00:39:52.090I mean they're grumbling actually even beforethat, whenever Moses initially he is48300:39:52.130 --> 00:39:58.280coming to deliver them and Pharaoh putsthe task on them to make bricks without48400:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.719Straw. You're going to get yourown Straw. And you know that they48500:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.880were grumbling. And they're at theRed Sea right and got it already.48600:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.949showed them his power, and yetthey're grumbling against God there all the all48700:40:08.989 --> 00:40:13.269through the Wilderness. So you knowwhen they grumbling complain because they don't have48800:40:13.349 --> 00:40:17.070meet God, gives him quail upto their eyeballs and they grumbled complain about48900:40:17.070 --> 00:40:21.500that. It's every every area andeverything that God does, they grumble and49000:40:21.539 --> 00:40:24.780they complain. But you will seethat there were at least two men,49100:40:27.500 --> 00:40:30.380Jonathan, or, I'm sorry,Joshua and Caleb, who didn't grumbling complain49200:40:30.460 --> 00:40:35.260against God, and they entered intothe promised land. They made a conscious49300:40:35.260 --> 00:40:37.769decision to look at what God haddone, the good things the Lord had49400:40:37.849 --> 00:40:42.449done for them, and that fueledthe fire in their hearts to believe that49500:40:42.610 --> 00:40:45.730this God is good. We're notgoing to grumble complain. The stuff that49600:40:45.809 --> 00:40:50.960happens to us. It's not God'sfault. And even if it was God's49700:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.320fault, he's still good. Heputs breath in our lungs and we're going49800:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.440to worship and we're going to praisehim. And those men entered the Promised49900:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.800Land Right. Those who did not, those who grumble, those who died50000:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.030in the wilderness, where those whogrumbled and complained. And this is a50100:41:05.110 --> 00:41:09.590conscious decision and there may be foryou guys that are listening, a time50200:41:09.750 --> 00:41:15.590that you just need to, afterthis podcast, repent before God and just50300:41:15.710 --> 00:41:17.510tell God you're sorry. And itmay not have anything to do a cybwalk50400:41:17.579 --> 00:41:21.380ministry. It might have to dowith your family. You might have been50500:41:21.420 --> 00:41:25.420grumbling and complained against God because yourkids are doing this or that your husband's50600:41:25.500 --> 00:41:30.460doing this or that your wife isdoing this or that your financial situation is50700:41:30.539 --> 00:41:32.889like this or like that, andyou've just had an attitude of grumbling and50800:41:34.010 --> 00:41:37.050complaining and ultimately, if you're honest, you're grumbling, you're complaining, is50900:41:37.130 --> 00:41:40.730not just against your circumstances, againstyour family member, but it's against God51000:41:42.610 --> 00:41:46.400and you need to repent and justsay God, I'm sorry. If of51100:41:46.519 --> 00:41:52.400accusing you, I'm sorry, ofa bad attitude. In God answers.51200:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.159When we repent, listen, Godcomes in, he brings forgiveness, he51300:41:55.280 --> 00:42:01.309washes, he cleanses and he cangive you a good attitude. He can51400:42:01.510 --> 00:42:07.190give you a different perspective where youcan see that maybe the Lord was using51500:42:07.269 --> 00:42:10.550that stuff to make you more likeJesus and you didn't respond appropriately. Soho51600:42:10.550 --> 00:42:15.780ask God for grace to respond appropriatelyin the future and he'll give you grace51700:42:15.900 --> 00:42:17.619to do it. Man, itreally has to do with our attitude.51800:42:17.659 --> 00:42:22.099It really has to do with ourresponse to the Lord and when we respond51900:42:22.179 --> 00:42:25.099we're not always. No one isgoing to respond a hundred percent appropriately every52000:42:25.179 --> 00:42:29.820time. When we don't, wejust repent and ask God for grace to52100:42:29.900 --> 00:42:31.329do right in the future, andwho give us grace to do it.52200:42:31.530 --> 00:42:37.250Yeah, so hope this was anencouragement to you guys and a challenge to52300:42:37.289 --> 00:42:40.809you guys. We don't want todiscourage you, want to encourage you,52400:42:42.010 --> 00:42:44.920just like my response to Vicky.I'm glad you got to experience that.52500:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.960I know Vicky could handle that andmaybe people that are brand news. If52600:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.920your leaders, if you're a leader, maybe that's not always the appropriate response.52700:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.909You probably want to if you dorespond that way when they're sharing their52800:43:01.030 --> 00:43:05.469grumbling and complaining, that you mightwant to spell it out a little more52900:43:05.550 --> 00:43:08.510and identify with her with their paina little more. We certainly want to53000:43:08.510 --> 00:43:14.340do that with each other. Pointthem towards Jesus always right. That's what53100:43:14.460 --> 00:43:16.900we need to do. But Iknew again. I knew, Vicky,53200:43:17.019 --> 00:43:21.739you can handle it and you needto be spurred on encourage in that way.53300:43:21.900 --> 00:43:25.619It's sparked any podcast, in myopinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah,53400:43:25.619 --> 00:43:29.809and at least drew you closer tothe Lord and drew drew me closer53500:43:29.849 --> 00:43:34.210to the Lord. Just reading throughthis and covering the subject is really encouraging,53600:43:35.369 --> 00:43:37.889and so, anyway, with that, I think we'll wrap this thing53700:43:37.969 --> 00:43:42.960up. We appreciate you, guys, listening and please reach out to me,53800:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.440Daniel Love Life Dot Org. Reachout to Vicky, Vicky at Love53900:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.039Life Dot Org. It maybe you'vegot some struggles and things we would certainly54000:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.760love to pray for you and praywith you about those things. Maybe you've54100:43:53.760 --> 00:43:59.150got questions that we can answer.Will do our best answer whatever questions that54200:43:59.269 --> 00:44:05.030come our way about sidewalk ministry andso with that we'll talk to you guys54300:44:05.030 --> 00:44:13.099later. God bless God, blessyou all. Give me our love for54400:44:13.340 --> 00:44:24.530love. Give me our love forgratitude. I know it will cost me54500:44:24.730 --> 00:44:32.449my love. Nothing's too precious,and some that you













